• FYI

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 00:47:19 2023
    It you are posting from Google Groups, I will not be able to see you.

    Due to abuses in comp.lang.c and comp.arch , GG articles
    will not show up here, namely on news.nk.ca
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Oct 13 03:08:06 2023
    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:47:23 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    It you are posting from Google Groups, I will not be able to see you.

    Yay! I can say all sorts of horrible things about you behind your back now! :-)

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Oct 13 16:24:44 2023
    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:47:23 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    It you are posting from Google Groups, I will not be able to see you.


    Google Groups user here, so I will bid you farewell, Doc.

    Or you could just take out a Google Groups account?


    RM




    Due to abuses in comp.lang.c and comp.arch , GG articles
    will not show up here, namely on news.nk.ca
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
    If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sun Oct 15 21:56:26 2023
    Real Mardin wrote:


    Or you could just take out a Google Groups account?

    Steady on old chap... there's no need for anyone to sink to that level!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mark on Sun Oct 15 21:56:27 2023
    Mark wrote:

    On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 1:47:23 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    It you are posting from Google Groups, I will not be able to see you.

    Yay! I can say all sorts of horrible things about you behind your back
    now! :-)

    We do it to his face on other groups... ;-)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Oct 15 23:30:38 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Real Mardin wrote:


    Or you could just take out a Google Groups account?

    Steady on old chap... there's no need for anyone to sink to that level!


    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!

    After all Google GRoups have spamtrolls flooding comp.lang.c and comp.arch!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen In the midst of destroying themselves, fools cheer their progress. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Oct 16 05:18:28 2023
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!

    Also not seen eternal-september.

    I do have a google groups account, which I use for a mailing list that
    is hosted there (not a nntp group), but I'm not going to use the web
    interface.

    -- HASM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Oct 16 13:46:59 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM <[email protected]d> wrote: >[email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!

    Also not seen eternal-september.

    I do have a google groups account, which I use for a mailing list that
    is hosted there (not a nntp group), but I'm not going to use the web >interface.

    -- HASM



    RB and I quite agree.

    Just from recent daily stats

    Unwanted sites in Path header field [Top 20]:
    Site Count google-groups.googlegroups.com 40001 news.neodome.net 1032 news.mixmin.net 649 news.newsdemon.com 243

    TOTAL: 4 41925

    INND Perl filter [Top 20]:
    Reason Count EMP (md5) 293 Too many newsgroups 229 User-issued cancel 28 Too many newsgroups (meow) 19 HTML Multipart 12 Banned From (<[email protected]>) 12 Banned Reply-To ([email protected]) 2 Subject (LSD 25 Blotter 155µg USA | Order LSD Sheet Online) 2 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-17] yen) 1 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-16] yen) 1 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-2] yen) 1 Subject (LSD3A7VE3SONLADMC5C45CXGIF654DWZEZWA-7] yen) 1 Subject (LSD5GUWJTL6QJU7IUB7Z2A-18] yen) 1 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-15] yen) 1 Subject (LSDIQMDW5IK4J6ANEHQ-13] yen) 1 Subject (LSD5GUWJTL6QJU7IUB7Z2A-7] yen) 1 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-19] yen) 1 Subject (LSD5GUWJTL6QJU7IUB7Z2A-15] yen) 1 Subject (LSD3A7VE3SONLADMC5C45CXGIF654DWZEZWA-5] yen) 1 Subject (LSDLAWGM3LX4LU3KJ45P3Y5TGC5WOQ-5] yen) 1

    TOTAL: 88 677

    given 1440 minutes in a day

    40001/1440 is ~27.77847222222222222222

    and 60/27.77847222222222222222

    is ~2.15994600134996625084

    2 to 3 seconds between spams!

    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen In the midst of destroying themselves, fools cheer their progress. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to HASM on Mon Oct 16 08:45:25 2023
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google Groups, to at least a certain extent.

    Mike

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon Oct 16 23:15:40 2023
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
    Groups, to at least a certain extent.

    If only!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Oct 16 22:45:44 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
    Groups, to at least a certain extent.

    If only!


    So far so good for the blockers!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Oct 16 23:42:25 2023
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
    Groups, to at least a certain extent.
    If only!

    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.


    RM

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Oct 17 12:10:21 2023
    Real Mardin wrote:

    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here
    won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming
    further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.

    This is the only newsgroup that I don't block posts from
    groups.google.com as generally the people here using Google Groups to
    access Usenet are proper contributors and the spam is kept to a minimum.

    Other places are not so fortunate!

    'Google Groups' seems to be the main source of spam on Usenet, but on RSS
    spam doesn't seem to be a big problem so long may that continue...

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Oct 17 03:14:40 2023
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:42:27 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google Groups, to at least a certain extent.
    If only!
    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.


    RM

    I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access it.

    As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups) usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the minority; I'm not sure though.

    If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for UPT.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue Oct 17 12:29:21 2023
    Mark wrote:

    I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we
    can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access
    it.

    You will be able to access Google Groups... well, for long as Google run
    the service. The issue is that not everyone will 'see' Usenet posts that originate from Google Groups because of spam filters. You can just carry
    on as normal...

    As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups)
    usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats
    that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the
    minority; I'm not sure though.

    If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for
    UPT.

    Dave's problem is the flood of spam messages on other newsgroups that are injected from groups.google.com ... here, spam doesn't seem to be as big
    of a problem as it is on other groups.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Oct 17 11:40:36 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Real Mardin wrote:

    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here
    won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming
    further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.

    This is the only newsgroup that I don't block posts from
    groups.google.com as generally the people here using Google Groups to
    access Usenet are proper contributors and the spam is kept to a minimum.

    Other places are not so fortunate!

    'Google Groups' seems to be the main source of spam on Usenet, but on RSS >spam doesn't seem to be a big problem so long may that continue...

    We can hpe, but gg is big on unaccountability.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Oct 17 11:42:46 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Mark wrote:

    I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we
    can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access
    it.

    You will be able to access Google Groups... well, for long as Google run
    the service. The issue is that not everyone will 'see' Usenet posts that >originate from Google Groups because of spam filters. You can just carry
    on as normal...


    Yes BS, G2 users are getting sucked in.

    As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups)
    usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats
    that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the
    minority; I'm not sure though.

    If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for
    UPT.

    Dave's problem is the flood of spam messages on other newsgroups that are >injected from groups.google.com ... here, spam doesn't seem to be as big
    of a problem as it is on other groups.

    If only GG could be a responsible netizen.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Tue Oct 17 16:10:22 2023
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    'Google Groups' seems to be the main source of spam on Usenet, but on
    RSS spam doesn't seem to be a big problem so long may that continue...

    We can hpe, but gg is big on unaccountability.

    I assume that's because Google [Alphabet Inc] doesn't make much $$ from
    it's gateway to Usenet... so they don't care who abuses the Google Groups service to post spam.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Oct 17 22:13:59 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:

    'Google Groups' seems to be the main source of spam on Usenet, but on
    RSS spam doesn't seem to be a big problem so long may that continue...

    We can hpe, but gg is big on unaccountability.

    I assume that's because Google [Alphabet Inc] doesn't make much $$ from
    it's gateway to Usenet... so they don't care who abuses the Google Groups >service to post spam.

    Depeer Google GRoups now!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 16:53:32 2023
    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler

    -- HASM

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TGzDqW8=?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 20:14:34 2023
    Em terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2023 às 23:50:23 UTC-3, MH escreveu:
    On 2023-10-17 17:53, HASM wrote:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler

    That about sums it up for me, too.


    Google Groups user here too. I also see these, plus one by Michael Falkner. Can you see this one?


    Best regards,

    Lléo

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Oct 17 20:48:09 2023
    On 2023-10-17 00:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
    Groups, to at least a certain extent.
    If only!

    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then?

    I don't think so.
    I think a lot of users are on Google groups, which is why I have seen no
    posts from a lot of people for about 5-6 days now.
    Strangely, though, I can see yours.

    Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to HASM on Tue Oct 17 20:50:12 2023
    On 2023-10-17 17:53, HASM wrote:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler

    That about sums it up for me, too.



    -- HASM

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 07:25:42 2023
    Quoting HASM in rec.sport.soccer:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler

    I see the thread, just haven't posted anything.

    Using https://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php


    --
    Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 18 12:26:05 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    anders t <[email protected]> wrote:
    Quoting HASM in rec.sport.soccer:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler

    I see the thread, just haven't posted anything.

    Using https://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php


    I do not see anything from Google Groups posters.


    --
    Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08


    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 18 06:01:32 2023
    Lléo <[email protected]> writes:

    plus one by MichaelFalkner.

    The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
    Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
    not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.

    Can you see this one?

    Yes, this one came through, as well as another later one in the
    Conmebol WCQ 2026, Round 4
    thread.

    -- HASM

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to HASM on Wed Oct 18 17:14:46 2023
    HASM wrote:

    Ll=C3=A9o <[email protected]> writes:

    plus one by MichaelFalkner.

    The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
    Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
    not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.

    From what I understand Eternal-September are not going to be blocking
    every post to their servers that originate from Google Groups. They are
    trying to get their filters to catch as much of the spam as it can. So
    that might mean some false positives and genuine posts get blocked, it
    might also mean some spam gets through whilst they tweak things. But it
    is not a complete block of everything injected from groups.google.com
    which is why there are visible posts here from GG users.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Oct 18 10:18:02 2023
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 4:14:51 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    HASM wrote:
    Ll=C3=A9o <[email protected]> writes:

    plus one by MichaelFalkner.

    The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
    Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
    not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.
    From what I understand Eternal-September are not going to be blocking
    every post to their servers that originate from Google Groups. They are trying to get their filters to catch as much of the spam as it can. So
    that might mean some false positives and genuine posts get blocked, it
    might also mean some spam gets through whilst they tweak things. But it
    is not a complete block of everything injected from groups.google.com
    which is why there are visible posts here from GG users.

    Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident of seeing each other’s posts?


    RM

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Oct 18 20:48:25 2023
    Real Mardin wrote:

    Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident
    of seeing each other’s posts?

    Eternal-September offer free access to Usenet... they carry over 30,000 newsgroups.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    There are a variety of free newsreaders out there...

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to anders t on Wed Oct 18 13:30:11 2023
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 1:25:48 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    Quoting HASM in rec.sport.soccer:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
    Blueshirt
    HASM
    Jesper Lauridsen
    MH
    Mark
    Real Mardin
    The Doctor
    Werner Pichler
    I see the thread, just haven't posted anything.

    Using https://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

    I'm using Google Groups. I can see all the posts on this thread. I haven't posted much in the past two weeks for other reasons.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Oct 18 21:48:09 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Real Mardin wrote:

    Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident
    of seeing each other’s posts?

    Eternal-September offer free access to Usenet... they carry over 30,000 >newsgroups.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    There are a variety of free newsreaders out there...


    As long as we ween people off of GG!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Oct 19 03:07:13 2023
    On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 12:48:13 AM UTC+3, The Doctor wrote:

    As long as we ween people off of GG!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
    Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    This weirdo, “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor”, immediately replied to my previous post and also reposted a dozen of older posts of mine in this thread (then deleted). ALL posted via Google Groups, while he was crying because he couldn’t see… GG
    posts! Such a sicko! “Beware AntiChrist rising! Beware Liberal King Satan President! Beware Yahweh Allahu Akbar!”

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Oct 19 02:28:15 2023
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 1:14:42 PM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:42:27 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google Groups, to at least a certain extent.
    If only!
    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.


    RM
    I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access it.

    As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups) usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the minority; I'm not sure though.

    If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for UPT.

    Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:

    Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services? “A sucker is born every minute.”

    Agent Usenet Service
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    20 Gigabytes $2.95 per month
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    Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
    “Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com” (10K times a year’s time!!!)

    PS
    Don’t forget how intelligently the GG posts can be formatted now:
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/G78U7Qx1Mr8?hl=en
    • Usenet Redivivus! Best Post Viewing in Google Groups.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Oct 19 02:23:11 2023
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 1:14:42 PM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:42:27 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    Michael Falkner wrote:

    On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
    Also not seen eternal-september.

    It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google Groups, to at least a certain extent.
    If only!
    Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?

    RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.


    RM
    I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access it.

    As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups) usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the minority; I'm not sure though.

    If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for UPT.

    Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:

    Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services? “A sucker is born every minute.”

    Agent Usenet Service
    5,543 Days Binary · 7,419 Days Text · 30 Blazing Connections ·
    20 Gigabytes
    $2.95
    per month
    Free Trial
    45 Gigabytes
    $5.95
    per month
    Sign Up
    90 Gigabytes
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    Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
    “Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)

    PS
    Don’t forget how intelligently the GG posts can be formatted now:
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/G78U7Qx1Mr8?hl=en
    • Usenet Redivivus! Best Post Viewing in Google Groups.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to HASM on Thu Oct 19 13:11:49 2023
    HASM wrote:


    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.

    Ray at ES has obviously tweaked his filters so less false positives are
    showing up... the plan was never to block everything from Google Groups,
    just catch some of the more problematic spam. (Some groups were being
    flooded.)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ion Saliu on Thu Oct 19 13:09:02 2023
    Ion Saliu wrote:

    Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services?
    “A sucker is born every minute.”

    Usenet is free... the people who pay for Usenet services are not paying to
    post text messages to RSS or newsgroups like this, they are [generally]
    paying to access binary content and/or use Usenet to download movies, TV
    shows, books and music...

    Anyone can access Usenet using a free news service provider, currently the
    most popular is eternal-september.

    Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
    “Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected] Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)

    Most newsreaders have a setting to ignore sig files. I don't see Dave's religious spam that makes up his signature. Google Groups show them...
    everyone else avoids them! That's why highly configurable newsreaders are better for newsgroup users than Google's online interface... IMHO of
    course.

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 06:06:14 2023
    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.

    -- HASM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Oct 19 22:22:10 2023
    In article <ugr9pd$bto1$[email protected]>,
    Blueshirt <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ion Saliu wrote:

    Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services?
    “A sucker is born every minute.”

    Usenet is free... the people who pay for Usenet services are not paying to >post text messages to RSS or newsgroups like this, they are [generally] >paying to access binary content and/or use Usenet to download movies, TV >shows, books and music...

    Anyone can access Usenet using a free news service provider, currently the >most popular is eternal-september.

    Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
    “Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist
    rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
    https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse
    about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware
    https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)

    Most newsreaders have a setting to ignore sig files. I don't see Dave's >religious spam that makes up his signature. Google Groups show them... >everyone else avoids them! That's why highly configurable newsreaders are >better for newsgroup users than Google's online interface... IMHO of
    course.

    GG sucks!
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Oct 19 22:21:31 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.

    -- HASM

    From who?
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From HASM@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Oct 19 16:29:48 2023
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.
    From who?

    Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.

    -- HASM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 20 02:51:52 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM <[email protected]d> wrote: >[email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.
    From who?

    Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.

    -- HASM

    I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Fri Oct 20 00:22:26 2023
    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:51:56 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.
    From who?

    Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.

    -- HASM
    I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
    Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

    I've seen you respond to a post from google groups in another thread.

    I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is, but could that be the problem?

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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Oct 20 02:27:44 2023
    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:22:28 AM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:51:56 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM wrote:
    [email protected] (The Doctor) writes:

    Posts from google groups started showing up again.
    From who?

    Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.

    -- HASM
    I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected] Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
    Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
    Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com
    I've seen you respond to a post from google groups in another thread.

    I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is, but could that be the problem?

    M’ritser:

    Axiomático, the group you asked about, used to be a useful programming community dedicated to the C language. C is the most widely-used programming language — Windows is written in C in a large measure. Lately, that group has become a mountain of spam.
    It has absolutely nothing to do with programming!
    https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c

    There are many newsgroups in that state of filth. Even this rec.sport.soccer (RSS) shows signs of spamming. You can see on this RSS page threads like: “BUY QUALITY COUNTERFEIT MONEY”, or “BUY 100% UNDETECTABLE COUNTERFEIT MONEY £,$,€”. The “
    author”, “Michael Fisher”, spams several newsgroups. In a blackjack forum, for example, he “sells” lots of books… inexistent, of course!

    “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor” is such a pathological liar! He responded in minutes to my first post in this thread. As you can see, my post was published via Google Groups (GG). I was also notified that there were “33 new messages in this
    thread”. Surprisingly, all the “new messages” were older posts I made in this newsgroup — all published via GG! My messages were reposted by “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor”! Then, he deleted his reply and my “33 new messages”.

    No doubt, “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor” lies like an old dog. Why? Well, he is a sicko. He probably felt worse than usual and started this “FYI” thread. Methinks, he intended to curse us: “F(uque) Y(ou) I(diots)!”

    The “comp.lang.c massacre” makes an even stronger argument in favor of Google Groups. Irritants like “comp.lang.c” won’t invade your computer. Unless, of course, you go there intentionally via your browser.

    Other posters here made a good point. The newsreaders give the opportunity to download binary files directly (music, movies, etc.) In GG you can only post links to file depositories. Caveat:

    “• Q: Will we terminate an account for posting binary messages in a non-binary group?
    • A: We will first ask them to stop. If they refuse, we will terminate.”

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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Oct 20 06:01:37 2023
    Mark <[email protected]> writes:

    I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
    but could that be the problem?

    Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll
    understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.

    -- HASM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 20 13:25:48 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, HASM <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Mark <[email protected]> writes:

    I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
    but could that be the problem?

    Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll >understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.

    -- HASM




    Exactly and comp.arch !
    --
    Member - Liberal International This is [email protected] Ici [email protected]
    Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to HASM on Sat Oct 21 04:03:03 2023
    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 4:01:43 PM UTC+3, HASM wrote:
    Mark <[email protected]> writes:

    I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
    but could that be the problem?
    Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.

    -- HASM

    Hasmitser:

    There are many more newsgroups in that predicament, axiomaticule. But it ain’t the fault of GG. SPAM can be distributed right from newsreaders. Just look at our Sicko Yahwe here (his signature).

    For sure, it is very hard to combat the spamming operation of the “Michael Fishers” of the world. One action can affect them, however. Send them emails via the addresses they advertise in their spam. IF many such emails flood the spammer inboxes,
    their email accounts may as well be closed. I know it happened in a lottery newsgroup.

    “I received a phone call
    From one who claimed was tall.
    Then, he cursed me even worse
    For my gambling on the horse.”

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Ion Saliu on Sat Oct 21 15:53:59 2023
    Ion Saliu wrote:

    There are many more newsgroups in that predicament. But it
    ain’t the fault of GG.

    It certainly is the fault of Google Groups as they are the originators of
    that spam, plus Google don't do anything to stop people spamming and
    rarely respond or action abuse complaints. Which proper Usenet providers
    would. People create throw-away g-mail addresses and spam away via the
    Google Groups web interface, then create another and another... or their
    bots do.

    SPAM can be distributed right from newsreaders.

    It can and sometimes is, but if you register an account with any Usenet
    service provider, then your account can be closed if they receive abuse complaints. All headers of posts to Usenet contain message ID's and a
    trace to the account that posted it. If that account is used solely to
    post spam the account would be closed. Probably after a cease and desist e-mail.

    Google is the wild west...

    Just look at our Sicko Yahwe here (his signature).

    You mean the great Google don't allow you to hide people's signatures?
    Clearly they take Usenet very seriously. ;-)

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