On 2022-10-15, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 23:04, Steve Carroll wrote:
You claim you want to learn
but that doesn't jibe with your action of avoiding things.
I've been learning about malware and 'bad guys' since I had £245.00
fraudulently taken from my bank account in 2005.
Why so evasive? Why not answer my questions?
Cybercrime fascinates me.
You're not getting anywhere near cybercrime with the stuff you do. The
most common forms of it are phishing, identity theft (usually involving credit card activity) and ransomware (less common)... and there's a
reason for that, people are the weakest link (look at what Hao Kuo Chi
did). Apple's iCloud just isn't that vulnerable, less so nowadays. Is it bulletproof? Of course not, nothing is... but it makes no sense to do
what you're suggesting anyway.
If you're talking about breaching iCloud servers directly, it will be detected before long but unless you can crack the encryption, there's no point. At the start of the pandemic I did read that Apple isn't going to encrypt iPhone backups to iCloud at the behest of the FBI, a thing they
were working to do, but I don't know if that's still the case.
On 16/10/2022 00:20, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-10-15, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 23:04, Steve Carroll wrote:
You claim you want to learn
but that doesn't jibe with your action of avoiding things.
I've been learning about malware and 'bad guys' since I had £245.00
fraudulently taken from my bank account in 2005.
Why so evasive? Why not answer my questions?
I'm wary because Snit has told me about his experiences with you in the
past.
Ask just one thing at a time and I will respond.
Cybercrime fascinates me.
You're not getting anywhere near cybercrime with the stuff you do. The
most common forms of it are phishing, identity theft (usually involving
credit card activity) and ransomware (less common)... and there's a
reason for that, people are the weakest link (look at what Hao Kuo Chi
did). Apple's iCloud just isn't that vulnerable, less so nowadays. Is it
bulletproof? Of course not, nothing is... but it makes no sense to do
what you're suggesting anyway.
You are, perhaps, misunderstanding me. I do NOT consider the Apple
iCloud to be "vulnerable".
If you're talking about breaching iCloud servers directly, it will be
detected before long but unless you can crack the encryption, there's no
point. At the start of the pandemic I did read that Apple isn't going to
encrypt iPhone backups to iCloud at the behest of the FBI, a thing they
were working to do, but I don't know if that's still the case.
I don't know what has transpired there either.
I have experimented with using the iCloud Drive to share files. It's not difficult and it 'works'! :-)
I'm absolutely certain that *I* didn't put Savageduck's video files into
my iCloud Drive. Have you any idea at all how that could have happened, simply by me clicking on a link he posted in the 'rec.photo.digital' group?
TIA
On 16/10/2022 21:20, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ImX2L.1059323$[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2022 00:20, Steve Carroll wrote:With the link you shared there is no even slight likely way it could have led
On 2022-10-15, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 23:04, Steve Carroll wrote:
You claim you want to learn
but that doesn't jibe with your action of avoiding things.
I've been learning about malware and 'bad guys' since I had £245.00 >>>>> fraudulently taken from my bank account in 2005.
Why so evasive? Why not answer my questions?
I'm wary because Snit has told me about his experiences with you in the
past.
Ask just one thing at a time and I will respond.
Cybercrime fascinates me.
You're not getting anywhere near cybercrime with the stuff you do. The >>>> most common forms of it are phishing, identity theft (usually involving >>>> credit card activity) and ransomware (less common)... and there's a
reason for that, people are the weakest link (look at what Hao Kuo Chi >>>> did). Apple's iCloud just isn't that vulnerable, less so nowadays. Is it >>>> bulletproof? Of course not, nothing is... but it makes no sense to do
what you're suggesting anyway.
You are, perhaps, misunderstanding me. I do NOT consider the Apple
iCloud to be "vulnerable".
If you're talking about breaching iCloud servers directly, it will be
detected before long but unless you can crack the encryption, there's no >>>> point. At the start of the pandemic I did read that Apple isn't going to >>>> encrypt iPhone backups to iCloud at the behest of the FBI, a thing they >>>> were working to do, but I don't know if that's still the case.
I don't know what has transpired there either.
I have experimented with using the iCloud Drive to share files. It's not >>> difficult and it 'works'! :-)
I'm absolutely certain that *I* didn't put Savageduck's video files into >>> my iCloud Drive. Have you any idea at all how that could have happened,
simply by me clicking on a link he posted in the 'rec.photo.digital' group? >>
to putting files on your iCloud drive.
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared
it from there? Might that have done it?
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <ImX2L.1059323$[email protected]>:
On 16/10/2022 00:20, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2022-10-15, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15/10/2022 23:04, Steve Carroll wrote:
You claim you want to learn
but that doesn't jibe with your action of avoiding things.
I've been learning about malware and 'bad guys' since I had £245.00
fraudulently taken from my bank account in 2005.
Why so evasive? Why not answer my questions?
I'm wary because Snit has told me about his experiences with you in the
past.
Ask just one thing at a time and I will respond.
Cybercrime fascinates me.
You're not getting anywhere near cybercrime with the stuff you do. The
most common forms of it are phishing, identity theft (usually involving
credit card activity) and ransomware (less common)... and there's a
reason for that, people are the weakest link (look at what Hao Kuo Chi
did). Apple's iCloud just isn't that vulnerable, less so nowadays. Is it >>> bulletproof? Of course not, nothing is... but it makes no sense to do
what you're suggesting anyway.
You are, perhaps, misunderstanding me. I do NOT consider the Apple
iCloud to be "vulnerable".
If you're talking about breaching iCloud servers directly, it will be
detected before long but unless you can crack the encryption, there's no >>> point. At the start of the pandemic I did read that Apple isn't going to >>> encrypt iPhone backups to iCloud at the behest of the FBI, a thing they
were working to do, but I don't know if that's still the case.
I don't know what has transpired there either.
I have experimented with using the iCloud Drive to share files. It's not
difficult and it 'works'! :-)
I'm absolutely certain that *I* didn't put Savageduck's video files into
my iCloud Drive. Have you any idea at all how that could have happened,
simply by me clicking on a link he posted in the 'rec.photo.digital' group?
With the link you shared there is no even slight likely way it could have led to putting files on your iCloud drive.
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared
it from there?
Might that have done it?
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared
it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Might that have done it?
no.
On 17/10/2022 00:31, nospam wrote:
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared
it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive personally.
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:02:14 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <ql53L.1227551$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 00:31, nospam wrote:
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared >>>> it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
Most likely explanation is SOMEONE with access to one of your devices did.
On 17/10/2022 06:47, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:02:14 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ql53L.1227551$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 00:31, nospam wrote:
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared >>>>> it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
Most likely explanation is SOMEONE with access to one of your devices did.
As FromTheRafters has been explaining to me for years ......
Anything which *I* can do, properly crafted malware can ALSO do!
It is NOT happening now. 🙂
On Oct 16, 2022 at 11:23:47 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <Tx63L.1163484$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 06:47, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:02:14 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ql53L.1227551$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 00:31, nospam wrote:
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared >>>>>> it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
Most likely explanation is SOMEONE with access to one of your devices did. >>
As FromTheRafters has been explaining to me for years ......
Anything which *I* can do, properly crafted malware can ALSO do!
It is NOT happening now. 🙂
The idea that malware grabbed some videos and placed them on your iCloud drive
is, at best, deeply unlikely.
On 17/10/2022 07:30, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2022 at 11:23:47 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<Tx63L.1163484$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 06:47, Snit wrote:
On Oct 16, 2022 at 10:02:14 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<ql53L.1227551$[email protected]>:
On 17/10/2022 00:31, nospam wrote:
In article <TK%2L.2239292$[email protected]>, David Brooks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared >>>>>>> it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
Most likely explanation is SOMEONE with access to one of your devices did. >>>
As FromTheRafters has been explaining to me for years ......
Anything which *I* can do, properly crafted malware can ALSO do!
It is NOT happening now. 🙂
The idea that malware grabbed some videos and placed them on your iCloud drive
is, at best, deeply unlikely.
How about something like EtreCheck doing it?
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared
it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive personally.
In article <ql53L.1227551$[email protected]>, David Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
Might Savageduck have put his video(s) onto HIS iCloud Drive and shared >>>> it from there?
he could have, but that's irrelevant.
Thank you for agreeing with Snit about that.
i didn't agree with him.
Might that have done it?
no.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
i explained it last week, which you obviously did not understand (no
surprise there).
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
indirectly you did.
I see. What technical explanation do you have, please?
i explained it last week, which you obviously did not understand (no surprise there).
Please will you direct me to a Message ID? I will re-read.
I didn't move the video files from Savageduck onto my iCloud Drive
personally.
indirectly you did.
I really would like to understand *HOW* I may have done so.
Other readers in these groups would no doubt like to know as well.
I'm fairly sure some here think you are simply a Troll seeking
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