If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Our country was founded by geniuses, but it's being run by idiots LIKE TRUMP
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws.
These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-shooting-gop-officials-call-for-more-guns-in-schools-2022-5
"In the 10 years since Sandy Hook, gun laws in the U.S. haven't changed
much"
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/25/1101139624/texas-elementary-school-shooting-sandy-hook-gun-legislation-gun-control
TB
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers. Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
On 5/25/2022 2:18 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws.
These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers. Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-shooting-gop-officials-call-for-more-guns-in-schools-2022-5
"In the 10 years since Sandy Hook, gun laws in the U.S. haven't changed much"
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/25/1101139624/texas-elementary-school-shooting-sandy-hook-gun-legislation-gun-control
TBIt's not just conservatives expressing sympathy with thoughts and
prayers, Slick. And gun laws don't need to change. Psychos will psycho whether with guns, knives, fertilizer or scissors. I have yet to see a
gun kill someone and I'm sure you haven't either. I'm not aware of any autonomous guns.
Our country was founded by geniuses, but it's being run by idiots LIKE TRUMP
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: <snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the State,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the state while
ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy access to
firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd Amendment has
been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the sale of fire arms
and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed by people who don't
give a shit about the lives of children after they've left the womb. I
doubt anything is going to change markedly during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: <snip>people that easy access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed by people who don't give a shit
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the
Enjoy the day,
dmc
dm_callier <[email protected]> wrote:--
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: <snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd Amendment has
been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
“…shall not be infringed”. That might be curious to you but to those of us
with brains it is as clear as can be.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun Cruz, dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 kids and 2 adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to stopping violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to entering the building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people in the school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights groups, according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S. politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights supporters amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include Reps. Pete Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from direct contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>> <snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers. >>>> Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling >>>> for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy >>> access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the >>> sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to Mexico >> when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 kids and 2 >> adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not help and >> that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning environments." >> The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to entering the >> building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people in the >> school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional action in >> the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights groups, >> according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights supporters >> amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include Reps. Pete >> Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in opposition >> of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate for Black children was more than four times that of white children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I don't think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
You finally said something that makes sense but… the policies and politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in general. And just think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs.
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the policies and
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>> <snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and prayers. >>>>>> Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by calling >>>>>> for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy >>>>> access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the >>>>> sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed >>>>> by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to Mexico >>>> when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 kids and 2 >>>> adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money from >>>> gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not help and >>>> that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to stopping >>>> violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning environments." >>>> The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to entering the >>>> building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people in the >>>> school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional action in >>>> the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights groups, >>>> according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights supporters >>>> amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include Reps. Pete >>>> Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from direct >>>> contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in opposition >>>> of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down abortions and just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the policies and >>>> politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases like in
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and
prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by >>>>>>>> calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the >>>>>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be >>>>>>> infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the >>>>>>> state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people
that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd >>>>>>> Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit
from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines
professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after >>>>>>> they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change
markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun
Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to
Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups >>>>>>
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19
kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign >>>>>> contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most
money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not
help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to
stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually
improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to
entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people
in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional
action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation >>>>>> focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass,
but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty
reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights
groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in
U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights
supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include
Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over >>>>>> $208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from
direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle >>>>>> Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in
opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate
for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles >>>>> than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and >>>>> address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I
don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in general.
And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion
deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is
still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down abortions and
just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps for
monitoring bullying and students’ social media posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school district in
Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they were
of little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children and two
teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates that despite the
widespread “hardening†of schools over the past two decades,
mass shootings continue on with sickening frequency.
“These security measures are not effective,†said Jagdish
Khubchandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico State
University who has studied school violence. “And they are not
catching up to the ease of access with which people are acquiring
guns in the pandemic. All records are being broken in gun sales.â€
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district police
department included six officers, one of whom was involved in the
police response. But there are questions about how the city and
school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school policing
and other security measures in recent years. Texas responded to the
2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with $100 million in
school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the shooting, the city’s
S.W.A.T. team visited all district schools in “full tactical
uniforms,†according to the police department’s Facebook page. >>
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured into
these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun violence in
schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false sense of
security.â€
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives,
also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had
counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams at
each of the district’s schools were on the lookout for warning
signs of suicide, according to the district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors
students’ social media posts for threats, and an app called
STOPit, which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional supports
have improved school climate broadly, those strategies — as well
as the presence of campus police — have been insufficient in
preventing suicidal, often ideological young men from accessing guns
and carrying out attacks intended to draw fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those events.
The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in
Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding during the
shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at the
gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of color
are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even for routine
misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that they
can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying the buses
or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other gathering spots?
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the policies and
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and
prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by
calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be >>>>>> infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the >>>>>> state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that easy >>>>>> access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit from the >>>>>> sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines professed >>>>>> by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly >>>>>> during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun Cruz, >>>>> dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to
Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 kids
and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money from >>>>> gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not help
and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to stopping >>>>> violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves >>>>> safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to entering
the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people in
the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional
action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but >>>>> that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports. >>>>>
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights
groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S. >>>>> politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights
supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include Reps.
Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from direct >>>>> contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in
opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in general. And just >>> think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still
waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down abortions and just
in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps for
monitoring bullying and students’ social media posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school district in
Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety practices
meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they were of little use
on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates that despite the
widespread “hardening” of schools over the past two decades, mass shootings continue on with sickening frequency.
“These security measures are not effective,” said Jagdish Khubchandani,
a professor of public health at New Mexico State University who has
studied school violence. “And they are not catching up to the ease of access with which people are acquiring guns in the pandemic. All records
are being broken in gun sales.”
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district police department included six officers, one of whom was involved in the police response. But there are questions about how the city and school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas responded to the 2018
mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with $100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the shooting, the city’s S.W.A.T. team
visited all district schools in “full tactical uniforms,” according to the police department’s Facebook page.
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured into
these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun violence in
schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false sense of security.”
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives, also
do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams at each of the
district’s schools were on the lookout for warning signs of suicide, according to the district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website displayed
the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention poster contest. “Kindness takes courage!” one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors
students’ social media posts for threats, and an app called STOPit,
which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional supports
have improved school climate broadly, those strategies — as well as the presence of campus police — have been insufficient in preventing
suicidal, often ideological young men from accessing guns and carrying
out attacks intended to draw fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most infamous
school massacres and were not able to stop those events. The officer on
duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in 2018
has been accused of hiding during the shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at the
gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of color are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even for routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
On 5/26/2022 6:57 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony
wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the >>>>>> policies and
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as >>>>>>>>>> predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and >>>>>>>>>> prayers.<snip>
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting >>>>>>>>>> by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of >>>>>>>>> the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall >>>>>>>>> not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of
securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people >>>>>>>>> that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated >>>>>>>>> 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit >>>>>>>>> from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines
professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children >>>>>>>>> after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change
markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from
Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family >>>>>>>> to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights
groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 >>>>>>>> kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of >>>>>>>> thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in
campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most
money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for >>>>>>>> responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not >>>>>>>> help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to >>>>>>>> stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that >>>>>>>> suggests that increased police presence in schools actually
improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to
entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down
people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional >>>>>>>> action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on
legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to
pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty
reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun
rights groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money
in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top >>>>>>>> lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights
supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include
Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received >>>>>>>> over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes
from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National >>>>>>>> Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in
opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death
rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, >>>>>>> and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor
vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this
disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I >>>>>>> don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases
like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in >>>>>> general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion
deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is
still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down
abortions and just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your
anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps for
monitoring bullying and students’ social media posts. >>>>
Like many school systems across the country, the school district
in Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they were
of little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children and two
teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates that >>>> despite the widespread “hardening†of schools over the
past two decades, mass shootings continue on with sickening
frequency.
“These security measures are not effective,†said
Jagdish Khubchandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico
State University who has studied school violence. “And they
are not catching up to the ease of access with which people are
acquiring guns in the pandemic. All records are being broken in
gun sales.â€Â
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district
police department included six officers, one of whom was involved
in the police response. But there are questions about how the city
and school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school
policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas
responded to the 2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with
$100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the
shooting, the city’s S.W.A.T. team visited all district >>>> schools in “full tactical uniforms,†according to the
police department’s Facebook page.
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured
into these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun
violence in schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor
Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false sense >>>> of security.â€Â
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives,
also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had
counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams
at each of the district’s schools were on the lookout for
warning signs of suicide, according to the district’s >>>> safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes courage!†one child
wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors
students’ social media posts for threats, and an app called
STOPit, which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional
supports have improved school climate broadly, those strategies
 as well as the presence of campus police  have
been insufficient in preventing suicidal, often ideological young
men from accessing guns and carrying out attacks intended to draw
fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those events.
The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in
Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding during the
shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at
the gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of
color are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even for
routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that
they can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying
the buses or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other gathering
spots?
I dunno - what will?
Monkeypox
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kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote: >>>>> Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.htmlOn 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the policies and >>>>> politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases like in >>>>> Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in general. And >>>>> just
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>> wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as >>>>>>>>> predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and >>>>>>>>> prayers.<snip>
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by >>>>>>>>> calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the >>>>>>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be >>>>>>>> infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing the >>>>>>>> state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people that >>>>>>>> easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd >>>>>>>> Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit
from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines
professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after >>>>>>>> they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change markedly >>>>>>>> during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun
Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family to >>>>>>> Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights groups >>>>>>>
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19
kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of >>>>>>> thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in campaign >>>>>>> contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most money >>>>>>> from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for >>>>>>> responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not
help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to
stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that >>>>>>> suggests that increased police presence in schools actually improves >>>>>>> safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to
entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down people >>>>>>> in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional
action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation >>>>>>> focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to pass, but >>>>>>> that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty reports. >>>>>>>
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights
groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in U.S. >>>>>>> politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top >>>>>>> lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights
supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include
Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received over >>>>>>> $208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from
direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National Rifle >>>>>>> Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in
opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death rate for >>>>>> Black children was more than four times that of white children, and >>>>>> white children were still more likely to be killed by motor vehicles >>>>>> than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity and >>>>>> address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I don't >>>>>> think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion deaths. >>>>>
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is
still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down abortions and >>>> just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps for
monitoring bullying and students’ social media posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school district in
Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they were of
little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children and two
teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates that despite the
widespread “hardening†of schools over the past two decades, mass
shootings continue on with sickening frequency.
“These security measures are not effective,†said Jagdish
Khubchandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico State
University who has studied school violence. “And they are not
catching up to the ease of access with which people are acquiring
guns in the pandemic. All records are being broken in gun sales.â€
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district police
department included six officers, one of whom was involved in the
police response. But there are questions about how the city and
school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school policing
and other security measures in recent years. Texas responded to the
2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with $100 million in
school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the shooting, the city’s >>> S.W.A.T. team visited all district schools in “full tactical
uniforms,†according to the police department’s Facebook page. >>>
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured into
these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun violence in
schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false sense of
security.â€
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives,
also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had
counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams at
each of the district’s schools were on the lookout for warning
signs of suicide, according to the district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors
students’ social media posts for threats, and an app called STOPit, >>> which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional supports
have improved school climate broadly, those strategies — as well as >>> the presence of campus police — have been insufficient in
preventing suicidal, often ideological young men from accessing guns
and carrying out attacks intended to draw fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most infamous
school massacres and were not able to stop those events. The officer
on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in
2018 has been accused of hiding during the shooting that killed 17
people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at the
gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of color
are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even for routine
misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that they
can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying the buses
or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other gathering spots?
I dunno - what will?
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kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 6:57 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote: >>>>>>> Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.htmlOn 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but… the >>>>>>> policies and
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as >>>>>>>>>>> predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts and >>>>>>>>>>> prayers.<snip>
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting by >>>>>>>>>>> calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of the >>>>>>>>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall >>>>>>>>>> not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of securing >>>>>>>>>> the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people >>>>>>>>>> that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and punctuated 2nd >>>>>>>>>> Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit >>>>>>>>>> from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines >>>>>>>>>> professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children after >>>>>>>>>> they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change >>>>>>>>>> markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from Cancun >>>>>>>>> Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family >>>>>>>>> to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>> groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 >>>>>>>>> kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of >>>>>>>>> thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in
campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most
money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash for >>>>>>>>> responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will not >>>>>>>>> help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to >>>>>>>>> stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that >>>>>>>>> suggests that increased police presence in schools actually
improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to
entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down
people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional >>>>>>>>> action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on legislation >>>>>>>>> focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to
pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty
reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun rights >>>>>>>>> groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money in >>>>>>>>> U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top >>>>>>>>> lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>> supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include >>>>>>>>> Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have received >>>>>>>>> over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes from >>>>>>>>> direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National >>>>>>>>> Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in >>>>>>>>> opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do,
besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids" >>>>>>>>
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death
rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white children, and >>>>>>>> white children were still more likely to be killed by motor
vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this disparity >>>>>>>> and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white I >>>>>>>> don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases
like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s deaths in >>>>>>> general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion
deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is
still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep down abortions
and just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass shootings." >>>>>
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps for
monitoring bullying and students’ social media posts. >>>>>
Like many school systems across the country, the school district in
Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they were
of little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children and two
teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates that despite
the widespread “hardening†of schools over the past two
decades, mass shootings continue on with sickening frequency.
“These security measures are not effective,†said
Jagdish Khubchandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico
State University who has studied school violence. “And they
are not catching up to the ease of access with which people are
acquiring guns in the pandemic. All records are being broken in
gun sales.â€Â
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district police
department included six officers, one of whom was involved in the
police response. But there are questions about how the city and
school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school
policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas
responded to the 2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with
$100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the
shooting, the city’s S.W.A.T. team visited all district >>>>> schools in “full tactical uniforms,†according to the
police department’s Facebook page.
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured
into these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun violence
in schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false sense of
security.â€Â
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives,
also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had
counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams at
each of the district’s schools were on the lookout for >>>>> warning signs of suicide, according to the district’s safety
plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors
students’ social media posts for threats, and an app called
STOPit, which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional
supports have improved school climate broadly, those strategies
 as well as the presence of campus police  have
been insufficient in preventing suicidal, often ideological young
men from accessing guns and carrying out attacks intended to draw
fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those events.
The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in
Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding during the
shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at
the gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of color
are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even for
routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that they
can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying the
buses or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other gathering spots?
I dunno - what will?
Monkeypox
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On 5/26/2022 8:14 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 6:57 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony
wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but…
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as >>>>>>>>>>>> predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts >>>>>>>>>>>> and prayers.<snip>
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security >>>>>>>>>>> of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall >>>>>>>>>>> not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of
securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people >>>>>>>>>>> that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and
punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that
profit from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines >>>>>>>>>>> professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children >>>>>>>>>>> after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change >>>>>>>>>>> markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from
Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his
family to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>>> groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where >>>>>>>>>> 19 kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the
hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in >>>>>>>>>> campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most >>>>>>>>>> money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major
backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will >>>>>>>>>> not help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources >>>>>>>>>> to stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence >>>>>>>>>> that
suggests that increased police presence in schools actually >>>>>>>>>> improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning
environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to >>>>>>>>>> entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down >>>>>>>>>> people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows
congressional action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on
legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to >>>>>>>>>> pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty >>>>>>>>>> reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun
rights groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money >>>>>>>>>> in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the >>>>>>>>>> top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>>> supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include >>>>>>>>>> Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have
received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes >>>>>>>>>> from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the
National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in >>>>>>>>>> opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do, >>>>>>>>> besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids" >>>>>>>>>
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death >>>>>>>>> rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white
children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor >>>>>>>>> vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america >>>>>>>>>
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this
disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white >>>>>>>>> I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
the policies and
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases >>>>>>>> like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s
deaths in general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion >>>>>>>> deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is >>>>>>>> still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep
down abortions and just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of >>>>>>> your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass
shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps
for monitoring bullying and students’ social
media posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school district
in Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they
were of little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children
and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates
that despite the widespread
“hardening†of schools over the
past two decades, mass shootings continue on with sickening
frequency.
“These security measures are not >>>>>> effective,†said Jagdish Khubchandani, a professor
of public health at New Mexico State University who has studied
school violence. “And they are not catching up to
the ease of access with which people are acquiring guns in the
pandemic. All records are being broken in gun sales.â€ÂÂ
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district
police department included six officers, one of whom was
involved in the police response. But there are questions about
how the city and school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school
policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas
responded to the 2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with
$100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the
shooting, the city’s S.W.A.T. team visited all
district schools in “full tactical >>>>>> uniforms,†according to the police >>>>>> department’s Facebook page.
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured
into these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun
violence in schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor
Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a
false sense of security.â€ÂÂ
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying
initiatives, also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy.
Uvalde had counselors and social workers available.
Threat-assessment teams at each of the
district’s schools were on the lookout for
warning signs of suicide, according to the
district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes >>>>>> courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which
monitors students’ social media posts for
threats, and an app called STOPit, which allows anonymous
reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of
California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional
supports have improved school climate broadly, those
strategies  as well as the presence of campus
police  have been insufficient in preventing
suicidal, often ideological young men from accessing guns and
carrying out attacks intended to draw fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those
events. The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High
School in Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding
during the shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at
the gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of
color are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even
for routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that
they can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying
the buses or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other
gathering spots?
I dunno - what will?
Monkeypox
Will that need a law to work?
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Everything needs a law to work. Even the laws need laws. But, if
you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care?
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 8:14 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 6:57 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony >>>>>>>> wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense but…
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are just as >>>>>>>>>>>>> predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts >>>>>>>>>>>>> and prayers.<snip>
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school shooting >>>>>>>>>>>>> by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security >>>>>>>>>>>> of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall >>>>>>>>>>>> not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of
securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the people >>>>>>>>>>>> that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and
punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that profit >>>>>>>>>>>> from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life doctrines >>>>>>>>>>>> professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of children >>>>>>>>>>>> after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to change >>>>>>>>>>>> markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from >>>>>>>>>>> Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his family >>>>>>>>>>> to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>>>> groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where 19 >>>>>>>>>>> kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the hundreds of >>>>>>>>>>> thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in >>>>>>>>>>> campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the most >>>>>>>>>>> money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major backlash >>>>>>>>>>> for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will >>>>>>>>>>> not help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources to >>>>>>>>>>> stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of evidence that >>>>>>>>>>> suggests that increased police presence in schools actually >>>>>>>>>>> improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning >>>>>>>>>>> environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to >>>>>>>>>>> entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down >>>>>>>>>>> people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows congressional >>>>>>>>>>> action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on
legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to >>>>>>>>>>> pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin Doherty >>>>>>>>>>> reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun >>>>>>>>>>> rights groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks money >>>>>>>>>>> in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of the top >>>>>>>>>>> lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun rights >>>>>>>>>>> supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups include >>>>>>>>>>> Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have
received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes >>>>>>>>>>> from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the National >>>>>>>>>>> Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and in >>>>>>>>>>> opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do, >>>>>>>>>> besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids" >>>>>>>>>>
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm death >>>>>>>>>> rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white
children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor >>>>>>>>>> vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america >>>>>>>>>>
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this
disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this
disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids white >>>>>>>>>> I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
the policies and
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not cases >>>>>>>>> like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of children’s
deaths in general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included abortion >>>>>>>>> deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is >>>>>>>>> still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is obvious more guns to keep
down abortions and just in time the Supreme Court to the aid of >>>>>>>> your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass
shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps
for monitoring bullying and students’ social
media posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school district >>>>>>> in Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of recommended safety
practices meant, in part, to deter school shootings. But they
were of little use on Tuesday, when a gunman killed 19 children
and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
The district’s detailed safety plan illustrates
that despite the widespread
“hardening†of schools over the past
two decades, mass shootings continue on with sickening frequency. >>>>>>>
“These security measures are not >>>>>>> effective,†said Jagdish Khubchandani, a professor
of public health at New Mexico State University who has studied
school violence. “And they are not catching up to
the ease of access with which people are acquiring guns in the
pandemic. All records are being broken in gun sales.â€ÂÂ
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district
police department included six officers, one of whom was involved >>>>>>> in the police response. But there are questions about how the
city and school police officers had handled the gunman.
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school
policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas
responded to the 2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School with >>>>>>> $100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before the
shooting, the city’s S.W.A.T. team visited all
district schools in “full tactical >>>>>>> uniforms,†according to the police >>>>>>> department’s Facebook page. >>>>>>>
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars poured
into these kinds of prevention measures have decreased gun
violence in schools, according to a 2019 study by Professor
Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering “a false
sense of security.â€ÂÂ
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying initiatives, >>>>>>> also do not appear to forestall senseless tragedy. Uvalde had
counselors and social workers available. Threat-assessment teams >>>>>>> at each of the district’s schools were on the
lookout for warning signs of suicide, according to the
district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual bullying-prevention
poster contest. “Kindness takes >>>>>>> courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which monitors >>>>>>> students’ social media posts for threats, and an
app called STOPit, which allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University of >>>>>>> California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional
supports have improved school climate broadly, those strategies
 as well as the presence of campus police
 have been insufficient in preventing suicidal,
often ideological young men from accessing guns and carrying out >>>>>>> attacks intended to draw fame."
[snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those events. >>>>>>> The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in
Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding during the
shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot at >>>>>>> the gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of
color are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even
for routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that
they can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from spraying
the buses or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of other gathering >>>>>> spots?
I dunno - what will?
Monkeypox
Will that need a law to work?
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Everything needs a law to work. Even the laws need laws. But, if
you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care?
Because at the end of the day going forward I might want to buy a can of spray paint at a yard sale for my wife to paint a flower pot and I don't
know how to prove I won't use it to spray a school bus.
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On 5/27/2022 8:27 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 8:14 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 6:57 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/26/2022 3:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/26/2022 10:26 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:13:23 AM UTC-7,
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <[email protected]> wrote:https://ca.news.yahoo.com/as-nation-reels-from-uvalde-massacre-supreme-court-is-expected-to-expand-gun-rights-194609414.html
On 5/25/2022 7:10 PM, kmiller wrote:You finally said something that makes sense
On 5/25/2022 1:14 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 12:18:55 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
<snip>
Naturally, so called, not really "conservatives" are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just as<snip>
predictable. They're calling for more guns. And thoughts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and prayers.
Mustn't forget thoughts and prayers.
"Texas GOP officials respond to elementary school >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting by calling
for more guns and security in schools"
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the
security of the
State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, >>>>>>>>>>>>> shall not be
infringed." The Death-Eaters cling to the illusion of >>>>>>>>>>>>> securing the
state while ignoring the threat to the safety of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> people that easy
access to firearms poses. The curiously worded and
punctuated 2nd
Amendment has been twisted out of shape by those that >>>>>>>>>>>>> profit from the
sale of fire arms and the mind boggling pro-life
doctrines professed
by people who don't give a shit about the lives of
children after
they've left the womb. I doubt anything is going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> change markedly
during my lifetime.
Enjoy the day,
dmc
You just want to take a great source of income away from >>>>>>>>>>>> Cancun Cruz,
dontcha! Poor guy. How the hell is he going to fly his >>>>>>>>>>>> family to Mexico
when it gets cold again? Huh?
Congress members with the most contributions from gun >>>>>>>>>>>> rights groups
In the wake of the Texas elementary school shooting, where >>>>>>>>>>>> 19 kids and 2
adults were killed, there is renewed scrutiny on the
hundreds of
thousands of dollars Republican lawmakers have received in >>>>>>>>>>>> campaign
contributions from groups supporting gun rights.
Driving the news: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received the >>>>>>>>>>>> most money from
gun rights supporters. On Tuesday, he received major
backlash for
responding to the shooting by saying that gun control will >>>>>>>>>>>> not help and
that "we need to devote far more law enforcement resources >>>>>>>>>>>> to stopping
violent criminals."
Reality check: Experts say that there is a lack of
evidence that
suggests that increased police presence in schools
actually improves
safety and instead could "significantly disrupt learning >>>>>>>>>>>> environments."
The shooter was even engaged with law enforcement prior to >>>>>>>>>>>> entering the
building, but he still managed to get inside and gun down >>>>>>>>>>>> people in the
school.
The big picture: There's a pattern that follows
congressional action in
the wake of a mass shooting: Lawmakers will zero in on >>>>>>>>>>>> legislation
focused on gun control that requires bipartisan support to >>>>>>>>>>>> pass, but
that Republicans will not stand behind, Axios' Erin
Doherty reports.
By the numbers: Cruz has received over $442,000 from gun >>>>>>>>>>>> rights groups,
according to Open Secrets, an organization that tracks >>>>>>>>>>>> money in U.S.
politics.
Texas' other senator, John Cornyn (R), is another one of >>>>>>>>>>>> the top
lawmakers to receive financial contributions from gun >>>>>>>>>>>> rights supporters
amounting to around $340,000.
Other Texas lawmakers supported by gun rights groups
include Reps. Pete
Sessions (R) and Dan Crenshaw (R), each of which have >>>>>>>>>>>> received over
$208,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Between the lines: The money reflected in this chart comes >>>>>>>>>>>> from direct
contributions to lawmakers.
It does not include the millions of dollars that the
National Rifle
Association has spent in indirect spending in support and >>>>>>>>>>>> in opposition
of specific politicians.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/25/ted-cruz-lawmakers-money-gun-rights-groups
The data suggests that there are other things we need to do, >>>>>>>>>>> besides gun control, to reduce the violence.
"Guns have become the leading cause of death for American >>>>>>>>>>> kids"
"There were also stark racial disparities. The firearm
death rate for
Black children was more than four times that of white
children, and
white children were still more likely to be killed by motor >>>>>>>>>>> vehicles
than guns."
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america >>>>>>>>>>>
I don't think any amount of gun control will reduce this >>>>>>>>>>> disparity. Maybe we need to look at the causes of this
disparity and
address them directly. Even if we could make those kids >>>>>>>>>>> white I don't
think it would solve the underlying problems.
TB
but… the policies and
politicians you support are the underlying problem. Not
cases like in
Uvalde but for the high rate of
children’s deaths in
general. And just
think how high it would be if the statistics included
abortion deaths.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon >>>>>>>>>> is still waiting for his handcuffs.
Fido’s solution is
obvious more guns to keep down abortions and just in time the >>>>>>>>> Supreme Court to the aid of your anguish.
--
"Popular school security strategies have not stopped mass
shootings."
"Armed school police officers. Lockdown drills. High-tech apps >>>>>>>> for monitoring bullying and
students’ social media
posts.
Like many school systems across the country, the school
district in Uvalde, Texas, put in place a plethora of
recommended safety practices meant, in part, to deter school
shootings. But they were of little use on Tuesday, when a
gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary >>>>>>>> School.
The district’s detailed
safety plan illustrates that despite the widespread
“hardeningâ€ÂÂÂ
of schools over the past two decades, mass shootings continue >>>>>>>> on with sickening frequency.
“These security measures are
not effective,†said Jagdish
Khubchandani, a professor of public health at New Mexico State >>>>>>>> University who has studied school violence.
“And they are not catching
up to the ease of access with which people are acquiring guns >>>>>>>> in the pandemic. All records are being broken in gun
sales.â€ÂÂÂ
In Uvalde, a district of 4,000 students, the school district
police department included six officers, one of whom was
involved in the police response. But there are questions about >>>>>>>> how the city and school police officers had handled the gunman. >>>>>>>>
Texas districts like Uvalde have invested heavily in school
policing and other security measures in recent years. Texas
responded to the 2018 mass shooting at Santa Fe High School
with $100 million in school safety funding. In Uvalde, before >>>>>>>> the shooting, the city’s
S.W.A.T. team visited all district schools in
“full tactical
uniforms,†according to the
police department’s
Facebook page.
But there is little evidence nationally that the dollars
poured into these kinds of prevention measures have decreased >>>>>>>> gun violence in schools, according to a 2019 study by
Professor Khubchandani.
Instead, he wrote, they may be proffering
“a false sense of
security.â€ÂÂÂ
Social-emotional strategies, including anti-bullying
initiatives, also do not appear to forestall senseless
tragedy. Uvalde had counselors and social workers available.
Threat-assessment teams at each of the
district’s schools were
on the lookout for warning signs of suicide, according to the >>>>>>>> district’s safety plan.
Combating bullying was a special focus. The district website
displayed the winners of a recent bilingual
bullying-prevention poster contest.
“Kindness takes
courage!†one child wrote.
The district used software called Social Sentinel, which
monitors students’ social
media posts for threats, and an app called STOPit, which
allows anonymous reports of bullying.
These, too, are common practices.
Ron Avi Astor, an expert on school violence at the University >>>>>>>> of California, Los Angeles, argued that while social-emotional >>>>>>>> supports have improved school climate broadly, those
strategies  as well as
the presence of campus police
 have been insufficient
in preventing suicidal, often ideological young men from
accessing guns and carrying out attacks intended to draw fame." >>>>>>>> [snip]
"Armed school officers have been present at some of the most
infamous school massacres and were not able to stop those
events. The officer on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High
School in Parkland, Fla., in 2018 has been accused of hiding
during the shooting that killed 17 people.
During the Columbine shooting, a school resource officer shot >>>>>>>> at the gunman but missed.
School policing is also divisive, in part because students of >>>>>>>> color are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, even >>>>>>>> for routine misbehavior."
[snip]
TB
Even if they could lock down the schools, and it's obvious that >>>>>>> they can't, what's to stop them fathead screwballs from
spraying the buses or the playgrounds or any of hundreds of
other gathering spots?
I dunno - what will?
Monkeypox
Will that need a law to work?
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Everything needs a law to work. Even the laws need laws. But, if
you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care?
Because at the end of the day going forward I might want to buy a
can of spray paint at a yard sale for my wife to paint a flower pot
and I don't know how to prove I won't use it to spray a school bus.
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Submit to a dna test, background check, parental background check, fingerprint check, mental health check, 20 year waiting period and
donate $1 million to the charity of my choice.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them
in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers
dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on
gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a
police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump
said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
Leaders and members of the nation�s two largest teachers unions
traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and
advocate for new gun safety legislation. >------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting.
At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde andSo the answer to mass shootings is to turn our schools into impregnable fortresses and better hiring and training for law enforcement officers? Yeah, that's gonna work. Yale locks and Minimum Wage Officer Donuts armed with a handgun against some asshole
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:34:35 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to UvaldeSo the answer to mass shootings is to turn our schools into
and advocate for teacher door training and better security
officer vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what
specific new gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious
than that? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
impregnable fortresses and better hiring and training for law
enforcement officers? Yeah, that's gonna work. Yale locks and
Minimum Wage Officer Donuts armed with a handgun against some
asshole with an AR-15...yeah, that's a win.
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:is a solution? Jeeezuz!
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability. >>> Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholesAnother predictable response:
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on Friday. >>
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump said. >>
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA,because they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
dm_callier wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:34:35 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to UvaldeSo the answer to mass shootings is to turn our schools into
and advocate for teacher door training and better security
officer vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what
specific new gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious
than that? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
impregnable fortresses and better hiring and training for law
enforcement officers? Yeah, that's gonna work. Yale locks and
Minimum Wage Officer Donuts armed with a handgun against some
asshole with an AR-15...yeah, that's a win.
Do you have a specific new gun "safety" law that would would work? Or
not? Don't feel restricted by the dumbass laws the dumbasses want.
What's your idea for an efficacious gun "safety" law that would prevent school shootings?
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:is a solution? Jeeezuz!
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability. >>> Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholesAnother predictable response:
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a >> mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on Friday. >>
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump said. >>
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun production ASAP!
Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting downinnocent bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws.
These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the
face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in >> Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers
dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on
gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a
police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump
said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security officer
has to be competent. ------------------------------------------------------------------
After arriving at the scene, the security officer drove past the shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school through a door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot the students
and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside.
The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the door to kill
the suspect after he was in the school for around 80 minutes did so
after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of the doors, McCraw
said.
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Leaders and members of the nation’s two largest teachers unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and advocate
for new gun safety legislation. ------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer vetting.
At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability. >>> Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholesAnother predictable response:
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a >> mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on Friday. >>
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump said. >>
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to
enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most targets,
for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How can anyone
believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun production
ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns... I can't see
how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's lots of Vets,
getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer service related
PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent bystanders,
despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald
I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving
gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them
in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in >> Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers
dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on
gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a
police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump
said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent. ------------------------------------------------------------------
After arriving at the scene, the security officer drove past the
shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school through a
door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot the students
and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside.
The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the door to kill
the suspect after he was in the school for around 80 minutes did so
after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of the doors, McCraw
said.
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Leaders and members of the nation’s two largest teachers unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and
advocate for new gun safety legislation. ------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws.
These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the
face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in >>> Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers
dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on
gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a
police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump
said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security officer
has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------
After arriving at the scene, the security officer drove past the
shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school through a door
that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot the students
and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside.
The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the door to kill
the suspect after he was in the school for around 80 minutes did so
after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of the doors, McCraw
said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes through
Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
Leaders and members of the nation’s two largest teachers unions
traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and advocate
for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer vetting.
At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun "safety"
legislation would be more efficacious than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian gun manufacturing and sales.
On 5/27/2022 8:40 PM, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:34:35 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to UvaldeSo the answer to mass shootings is to turn our schools into
and advocate for teacher door training and better security
officer vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what
specific new gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious
than that? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
impregnable fortresses and better hiring and training for law
enforcement officers? Yeah, that's gonna work. Yale locks and
Minimum Wage Officer Donuts armed with a handgun against some
asshole with an AR-15...yeah, that's a win.
Do you have a specific new gun "safety" law that would would work?
Or not? Don't feel restricted by the dumbass laws the dumbasses
want. What's your idea for an efficacious gun "safety" law that
would prevent school shootings?
Why are you guys so worried about "feeling" restricted? You poor
little snowflakjes wid the wiiddle fweelings hurt.
Why is it required that there only be "ONE" gun safety law?
[email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms >>> at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site >>> of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, >>> had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New >>> York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan >>> Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and >>> hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all, >>> from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to >> enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How
can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? Jeeezuz! >>
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns...
I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's
lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent
bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt,
Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward
honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
trumptrumptrump. Tiresome. Literally.
How would you prevent school shootings if you were Boss of the Universe?
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them
in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
      Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary
School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and
two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the
debate on gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun
rights organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers
who maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by
the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from
the inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools
all across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should
be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever
enter the school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside.
And above all, from this day forward, every school in America
should have a police officer or an armed resource officer on duty
at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target. Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and
a hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------
   After arriving at the scene, the security officer drove past >> the shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
   McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school through >> a door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
   The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot the
students and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside.
   The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the door to >> kill the suspect after he was in the school for around 80 minutes
did so after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of the
doors, McCraw said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes
through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the
coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
   Leaders and members of the nation’s two largest teachers
unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention
and advocate for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian gun manufacturing and sales.
bfh wrote:
[email protected] wrote:Cut off the hands of all young white male loners. In other words there
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde,
the site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of
people, to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting
up the most targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for
himself! How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a
solution?  Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might
be? There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA,Â
because they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the
ones shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified
mental disorder....  No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might >>> become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts!Â
That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
trumptrumptrump. Tiresome. Literally.
How would you prevent school shootings if you were Boss of the
Universe?
is no solution. But what about the other mass shootings? The Buffalo
shooter gave advance warning just like the Texas shooting but no
action taken taken by authorities probably because no such arrangement exists.
Banning AR-15's would create a Black market and attempting to
confiscate them would probably end badly.
Background checks, waiting times etc are nonsense. Criminals will
ignore them but the Left will still insist on them no matter how useless.
bfh wrote:
[email protected] wrote:Cut off the hands of all young white male loners. In other words there
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on >>>> Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around >>>> the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology >>>> to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school >>>> with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable >>>> from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target. >>>> Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to >>> enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How
can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns...
I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's
lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down
innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder....
No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian
toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
trumptrumptrump. Tiresome. Literally.
How would you prevent school shootings if you were Boss of the Universe?
is no solution. But what about the other mass shootings? The Buffalo
shooter gave advance warning just like the Texas shooting but no action
taken taken by authorities probably because no such arrangement exists.
Banning AR-15's would create a Black market and attempting to confiscate
them would probably end badly.
Background checks, waiting times etc are nonsense. Criminals will ignore
them but the Left will still insist on them no matter how useless.
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant toWell, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "
the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be Doing
Something to get votes from their low-information constituency.
--
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:is a solution? Jeeezuz!
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's predictability. >>> Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholesAnother predictable response:
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a >> mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on Friday. >>
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," Trump said. >>
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary >>
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA,because they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms >>> at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a >>> mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, >>> had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New >>> York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan >>> Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and >>> hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all, >>> from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to >> enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How
can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? Jeeezuz! >>
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns...
I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's
lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent
bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt,
Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward
honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They *want* to
die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds makes the
school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian Peterson
and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see the build
toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, oftentimes
rejection from peers. That turns into a really identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently. Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
TB
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security mechanisms >>> at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on >>> Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, >>> had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo, New >>> York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties >>> with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan >>> Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around >>> the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside and >>> hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all >>> across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology >>> to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school >>> with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable >>> from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above all, >>> from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target. >>> Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a >>> hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to
enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How
can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? Jeeezuz! >>
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns...
I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's
lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down innocent
bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder.... No doubt,
Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward
honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They *want* to
die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds makes the
school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently. Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the nuclear family.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime - was
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries haveWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about freedom. For
example, do you think this country would put up with a mandatory
"buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For another example,
most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's
certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime - was
already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
Was it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about freedom. For
example, do you think this country would put up with a mandatory
"buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's certainly not
true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:due to its staggering cost and the danger it posed to those it supposedly protected. The colonies had long experience with the oppression caused by Britain's standing army of professional soldiers. For many years after our Constitution was ratified, many
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime - was
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries haveWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions, different
enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about freedom. For
example, do you think this country would put up with a mandatory
"buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For another example,
most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's
certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't we return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was added to what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated militia" stands out and springs from the aversion to a standing army
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago. We've had massive standing armies of professional soldiers since the beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen soldier is found in National Guard units and the Reserves of eachmilitary branch. And those units keep their arms secure in armories, not in the homes of civilians. If this now mythic "well regulated militia" is no longer extent, then the second part of the 2nd Amendment becomes an archaic relic of the 18th or early
Enjoy the day,
dmc
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime - was
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries haveWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about freedom. For
example, do you think this country would put up with a mandatory
"buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For another example,
most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's
certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime -
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings
and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So
that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference.
was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with anWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass
shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions,
different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about
freedom. For example, do you think this country would put up with
a mandatory "buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For
another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned
firearms. That's certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't we
return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was added to
what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated militia" stands
out and springs from the aversion to a standing army due to its
staggering cost and the danger it posed to those it supposedly
protected. The colonies had long experience with the oppression
caused by Britain's standing army of professional soldiers. For
many years after our Constitution was ratified, many gun control
laws were in place restricting the ownership of and right to bear
arms. These varied from locale to locale, but invariably were there
to restrict ownership of firearms to white males. It was a crime in
many places for slaves, native americans and non-white foreigners
to own fire arms.
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago. We've
had massive standing armies of professional soldiers since the
beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen soldier is found
in National Guard units and the Reserves of each military branch.
And those units keep their arms secure in armories, not in the
homes of civilians. If this now mythic "well regulated militia" is
no longer extent, then the second part of the 2nd Amendment becomes
an archaic relic of the 18th or early 19th century.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime -
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings
and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So
that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference.
was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with anWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass
shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions,
different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about
freedom. For example, do you think this country would put up with
a mandatory "buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For
another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned
firearms. That's certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't we
return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was added to
what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated militia" stands
out and springs from the aversion to a standing army due to its
staggering cost and the danger it posed to those it supposedly
protected. The colonies had long experience with the oppression
caused by Britain's standing army of professional soldiers. For
many years after our Constitution was ratified, many gun control
laws were in place restricting the ownership of and right to bear
arms. These varied from locale to locale, but invariably were there
to restrict ownership of firearms to white males. It was a crime in
many places for slaves, native americans and non-white foreigners
to own fire arms.
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago. We'veThat's a nice history lesson, but I don't understand what a standing
had massive standing armies of professional soldiers since the
beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen soldier is found
in National Guard units and the Reserves of each military branch.
And those units keep their arms secure in armories, not in the
homes of civilians. If this now mythic "well regulated militia" is
no longer extent, then the second part of the 2nd Amendment becomes
an archaic relic of the 18th or early 19th century.
army has to do with laws purported to protect schools. What specific
law(s) do you think would actually work in this country? By "work", I
mean enforceable and would get the desired result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime -
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings
and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So
that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference.
was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with anWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass
shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions,
different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about
freedom. For example, do you think this country would put up with
a mandatory "buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For
another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned
firearms. That's certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Trying to buy back the guns would break the country! I'd do it
like it's done with machine guns, where they'd have to be
purchased from a previous owner, after I'd pinched off any new
manufacture, importation, and sales to 1st time gun owners....
Present owners, would be grandfathered in... I'd also start up
lots of gun clubs, where gunslingers in hoping, could blast dirt
piles, tin cans, TV sets, old cars, etc... to their hearts
content, without actually owning a gun themselves.... Next, I'd
start up a huge media campaign, to brand the folks who own
military style guns as creepy, needle dicked, bug fuckers, that
no decent female would want anything to do with! HawHawHaw!
I realize my grand scheme will take considerable time to be
effective, but heck! What do few decades matter, in the "Big
Picture"? <wink wink>
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:That's a nice history lesson, but I don't understand what a
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need
to appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994
assault weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass
shootings and with the sunset of that law they markedly
increased. So that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a
difference.
- was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, withWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides,
an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as
mass shootings.
"other countries" have different cultures, different
constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and
different ideas about freedom. For example, do you think this
country would put up with a mandatory "buy-back", much less
an actual confiscation? For another example, most Canadians
support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's certainly
not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in
this country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the
desired result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't
we return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was
added to what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated
militia" stands out and springs from the aversion to a standing
army due to its staggering cost and the danger it posed to
those it supposedly protected. The colonies had long experience
with the oppression caused by Britain's standing army of
professional soldiers. For many years after our Constitution
was ratified, many gun control laws were in place restricting
the ownership of and right to bear arms. These varied from
locale to locale, but invariably were there to restrict
ownership of firearms to white males. It was a crime in many
places for slaves, native americans and non-white foreigners to
own fire arms.
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago.
We've had massive standing armies of professional soldiers
since the beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen
soldier is found in National Guard units and the Reserves of
each military branch. And those units keep their arms secure in
armories, not in the homes of civilians. If this now mythic
"well regulated militia" is no longer extent, then the second
part of the 2nd Amendment becomes an archaic relic of the 18th
or early 19th century.
standing army has to do with laws purported to protect schools.
What specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Geez, Bill, all I'm saying is that the 2nd Amendment is prolly
being interpreted wrong. The founders didn't mean gun ownership to
be a right interpreted outside of the scope of a citizen's militia
and that historically until sometime after the turn of the
twentieth century lots of gun laws were in place to regulate who
could purchase and what kind they could purchase. You 'Pubes are so
fond of the good old days, so why not start with some of that old
Wyatt Earp you cain't bring that gun into Dodge kind of regulation.
Your new fangled '70s NRA BS ain't working. Even the NRA admits it
doesn't work at this year's convention...they banned guns there
'cause they didn't want Trump to get to scared to show up and
bloviate about how we needed more guns.
[email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime -
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant
to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be
Doing Something to get votes from their low-information
constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings
and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So
that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference.
was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with anWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass
shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions,
different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about
freedom. For example, do you think this country would put up with
a mandatory "buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For
another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned
firearms. That's certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
Trying to buy back the guns would break the country! I'd do it
like it's done with machine guns, where they'd have to be
purchased from a previous owner, after I'd pinched off any new
manufacture, importation, and sales to 1st time gun owners....
Present owners, would be grandfathered in... I'd also start up
lots of gun clubs, where gunslingers in hoping, could blast dirt
piles, tin cans, TV sets, old cars, etc... to their hearts
content, without actually owning a gun themselves.... Next, I'd
start up a huge media campaign, to brand the folks who own
military style guns as creepy, needle dicked, bug fuckers, that
no decent female would want anything to do with! HawHawHaw!
I realize my grand scheme will take considerable time to be
effective, but heck! What do few decades matter, in the "Big
Picture"? <wink wink>
I literally hope you're not serious about any of that bullshit up there?
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your <wink
wink> covers all of it.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:That's a nice history lesson, but I don't understand what a
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need
to appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing, >>>>>> isn't working...over and over again. The 1994
assault weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass
shootings and with the sunset of that law they markedly
increased. So that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a
difference.
- was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, withWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides,
an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as
mass shootings.
"other countries" have different cultures, different
constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and
different ideas about freedom. For example, do you think this
country would put up with a mandatory "buy-back", much less
an actual confiscation? For another example, most Canadians
support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's certainly
not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in
this country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the
desired result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't
we return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was
added to what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated
militia" stands out and springs from the aversion to a standing
army due to its staggering cost and the danger it posed to
those it supposedly protected. The colonies had long experience
with the oppression caused by Britain's standing army of
professional soldiers. For many years after our Constitution
was ratified, many gun control laws were in place restricting
the ownership of and right to bear arms. These varied from
locale to locale, but invariably were there to restrict
ownership of firearms to white males. It was a crime in many
places for slaves, native americans and non-white foreigners to
own fire arms.
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago.
We've had massive standing armies of professional soldiers
since the beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen
soldier is found in National Guard units and the Reserves of
each military branch. And those units keep their arms secure in
armories, not in the homes of civilians. If this now mythic
"well regulated militia" is no longer extent, then the second
part of the 2nd Amendment becomes an archaic relic of the 18th
or early 19th century.
standing army has to do with laws purported to protect schools.
What specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
Geez, Bill, all I'm saying is that the 2nd Amendment is prolly
being interpreted wrong. The founders didn't mean gun ownership to
be a right interpreted outside of the scope of a citizen's militia
and that historically until sometime after the turn of the
twentieth century lots of gun laws were in place to regulate who
could purchase and what kind they could purchase. You 'Pubes are so
fond of the good old days, so why not start with some of that old
Wyatt Earp you cain't bring that gun into Dodge kind of regulation.
Your new fangled '70s NRA BS ain't working. Even the NRA admits it
doesn't work at this year's convention...they banned guns there
'cause they didn't want Trump to get to scared to show up and
bloviate about how we needed more guns.
Geez, dm, you still haven't addressed how the Dem's dumbass laws will
prevent school shootings. I'll give you one thing, you guys are masters
at diversion and irrelevant bullshit, but even then, you get your facts wrong. The NRA did NOT ban guns at this year's convention - the Secret Service banned guns, along with drones, toy guns, knives, selfie sticks,
and umbrellas, only in the place where Trump was to speak. Where did you
get your misinformation?
So. Can you intelligently defend the Dem's dumbass laws, or not?
kmiller wrote:
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them
in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
      Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary
School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids and
two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on
gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools
all across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever
enter the school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside.
And above all, from this day forward, every school in America should
have a police officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all
times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target. Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and
a hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------
   After arriving at the scene, the security officer drove past >>> the shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
   McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school through a
door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
   The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot the
students and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside.
   The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the door to >>> kill the suspect after he was in the school for around 80 minutes did
so after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of the doors,
McCraw said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes
through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the
coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
So did I, but the Dems keep complaining about all the money The Gun
Lobby spends stopping "common sense" gun "safety" laws.
   Leaders and members of the nation’s two largest teachers
unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and
advocate for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian gun
manufacturing and sales.
And you guys think Trump is a fascist.
HawHawHaw!
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On 5/28/2022 9:22 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped
them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
      Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday  mechanisms that Robb
Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that
left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified
the debate on gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun
rights organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and
lawmakers who maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at
the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at
the event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while
Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast
held by the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from
the inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools
all across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should
be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever
enter the school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the
outside. And above all, from this day forward, every school in
America should have a police officer or an armed resource officer
on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end
of gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target. Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside
and a hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------
 Â Â Â After arriving at the scene, the security officer
drove past the shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said.
 Â Â Â McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school
through a door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
 Â Â Â The classrooms in which the shooter entered and
shot the students and teachers also had doors that locked from the
inside.
 Â Â Â The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the
door to kill the suspect after he was in the school for around 80
minutes did so after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one
of the doors, McCraw said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes
through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the
coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
So did I, but the Dems keep complaining about all the money The Gun
Lobby spends stopping "common sense" gun "safety" laws.
 Â Â Â Leaders and members of the nation’s two
largest teachers unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the
NRA's convention and advocate for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new
gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian
gun manufacturing and sales.
And you guys think Trump is a fascist.
HawHawHaw!
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But I had an idea.
Where's yours? I thought so.
On 5/28/2022 5:19 PM, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:That's a nice history lesson, but I don't understand what a
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip> >>>>>>>> At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need
to appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994
assault weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass
shootings and with the sunset of that law they markedly
increased. So that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a
difference.
- was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, withWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides,
an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as
mass shootings.
"other countries" have different cultures, different
constitutions, different enforcement philosophies, and
different ideas about freedom. For example, do you think this
country would put up with a mandatory "buy-back", much less
an actual confiscation? For another example, most Canadians
support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's certainly
not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in
this country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the
desired result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Maybe a specific law isn't the best starting point. Why don't
we return to the founder's intent when the 2nd Amendment was
added to what we call the Bill of Rights. "A well regulated
militia" stands out and springs from the aversion to a standing
army due to its staggering cost and the danger it posed to
those it supposedly protected. The colonies had long experience
with the oppression caused by Britain's standing army of
professional soldiers. For many years after our Constitution
was ratified, many gun control laws were in place restricting
the ownership of and right to bear arms. These varied from
locale to locale, but invariably were there to restrict
ownership of firearms to white males. It was a crime in many
places for slaves, native americans and non-white foreigners to
own fire arms.
So, the "well regulated militia" ship sailed a long time ago.
We've had massive standing armies of professional soldiers
since the beginning of WWII. The last vestige of a citizen
soldier is found in National Guard units and the Reserves of
each military branch. And those units keep their arms secure in
armories, not in the homes of civilians. If this now mythic
"well regulated militia" is no longer extent, then the second
part of the 2nd Amendment becomes an archaic relic of the 18th
or early 19th century.
standing army has to do with laws purported to protect schools.
What specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Geez, Bill, all I'm saying is that the 2nd Amendment is prolly
being interpreted wrong. The founders didn't mean gun ownership to
be a right interpreted outside of the scope of a citizen's militia
and that historically until sometime after the turn of the
twentieth century lots of gun laws were in place to regulate who
could purchase and what kind they could purchase. You 'Pubes are so
fond of the good old days, so why not start with some of that old
Wyatt Earp you cain't bring that gun into Dodge kind of regulation.
Your new fangled '70s NRA BS ain't working. Even the NRA admits it
doesn't work at this year's convention...they banned guns there
'cause they didn't want Trump to get to scared to show up and
bloviate about how we needed more guns.
Geez, dm, you still haven't addressed how the Dem's dumbass laws
will prevent school shootings. I'll give you one thing, you guys are
masters at diversion and irrelevant bullshit, but even then, you get
your facts wrong. The NRA did NOT ban guns at this year's convention
- the Secret Service banned guns, along with drones, toy guns,
knives, selfie sticks, and umbrellas, only in the place where Trump
was to speak. Where did you get your misinformation?
So. Can you intelligently defend the Dem's dumbass laws, or not?
Do you think you will ever come up with a suggestion? I thought not.
Much easier to sit and carp, ain't it?
On 5/28/2022 4:21 PM, bfh wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime -
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings
and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So
that "Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference.
was already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with anWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass
shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions,
different enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about
freedom. For example, do you think this country would put up with
a mandatory "buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For
another example, most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned
firearms. That's certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Trying to buy back the guns would break the country! I'd do it
like it's done with machine guns, where they'd have to be
purchased from a previous owner, after I'd pinched off any new
manufacture, importation, and sales to 1st time gun owners....
Present owners, would be grandfathered in... I'd also start up
lots of gun clubs, where gunslingers in hoping, could blast dirt >>> piles, tin cans, TV sets, old cars, etc... to their hearts >>> content, without actually owning a gun themselves....  Next, I'd >>> start up a huge media campaign, to brand the folks who own
military style guns as creepy, needle dicked, bug fuckers, that >>> no decent female would want anything to do with!  HawHawHaw!
I realize my grand scheme will take considerable time to be
effective, but heck! What do few decades matter, in the "Big >>> Picture"? <wink wink>
I literally hope you're not serious about any of that bullshit up
there? I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that
your <wink wink> covers all of it.
Still no ideas of your own, huh? Carp, carp, carp...
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 11:09:58 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Present owners, would be grandfathered in... I'd also start up lots of gun clubs, where gunslingers in hoping, could blast dirt piles, tin cans, TV sets, old cars, etc... to their hearts content, without actually owning a gun themselves....
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: <snip>"Seemed" and "slightly". Violent crime - including gun crime - was
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is
irrelevant to the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to
appear to be Doing Something to get votes from their
low-information constituency. --
Well, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban
did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the
sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law
seemed to make a difference.
already going down when that law went into effect.
"Dumbass" laws in other countries haveWas it cause and effect - or just correlation? Besides, "other
worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as
well as mass shootings.
countries" have different cultures, different constitutions, different
enforcement philosophies, and different ideas about freedom. For
example, do you think this country would put up with a mandatory
"buy-back", much less an actual confiscation? For another example,
most Canadians support a ban on civilian owned firearms. That's
certainly not true here.
So what specific law(s) do you think would actually work in this
country? By "work", I mean enforceable and would get the desired
result without unacceptable unintended consequences.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Trying to buy back the guns would break the country! I'd do it like it's done with machine guns, where they'd have to be purchased from a previous owner, after I'd pinched off any new manufacture, importation, and sales to 1st time gun owners....
I realize my grand scheme will take considerable time to be effective, but heck! What do few decades matter, in the "Big Picture"? <wink wink>
Jeff Cooper Jr.
kmiller wrote:
On 5/28/2022 9:22 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun
laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it slapped
them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
      Another predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in
Houston, Texas on Friday  mechanisms that Robb
Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left >>>>>> 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified
the debate on gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun
rights organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers >>>>>> who maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at
the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at
the event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while
Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held >>>>>> by the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from
the inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools
all across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should
be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever
enter the school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. >>>>>> And above all, from this day forward, every school in America
should have a police officer or an armed resource officer on duty
at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end
of gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target. Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside
and a hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------
 Â Â Â After arriving at the scene, the security officer
drove past the shooter and instead confronted a teacher, McCraw said. >>>>>  Â Â Â McCraw said the shooter gained access to the school
through a door that had been previously propped open by a teacher.
 Â Â Â The classrooms in which the shooter entered and shot
the students and teachers also had doors that locked from the inside. >>>>>  Â Â Â The Border Patrol tactical agents that breached the
door to kill the suspect after he was in the school for around 80
minutes did so after receiving keys from a janitor to unlock one of
the doors, McCraw said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes
through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the
coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
So did I, but the Dems keep complaining about all the money The Gun
Lobby spends stopping "common sense" gun "safety" laws.
 Â Â Â Leaders and members of the nation’s two
largest teachers unions traveled to Houston Friday to protest the
NRA's convention and advocate for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde and
advocate for teacher door training and better security officer
vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what specific new gun
"safety" legislation would be more efficacious than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian gun
manufacturing and sales.
And you guys think Trump is a fascist.
HawHawHaw!
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"requiring the cessation of all civilian gun manufacturing and sales"?
You think that's and idea? That's more dumbassed than some of the Dem's proposed laws. How exactly would that work?
Where's yours? I thought so.
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On 5/28/2022 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/28/2022 9:22 AM, bfh wrote:"requiring the cessation of all civilian gun manufacturing and
kmiller wrote:
On 5/27/2022 7:34 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's
predictability. Gun control, more gun control, common sense
gun laws. These assholes wouldn't know common sense if it
slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
      Another
predictable response:
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting
in Houston, Texas on Friday
 mechanisms that Robb
Elementary School in Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that
left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified >>>>>>> the debate on gun control legislation and renewed scrutiny of
gun rights organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and
lawmakers who maintain close ties with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at >>>>>>> the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at >>>>>>> the event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while >>>>>>> Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast
held by the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>> around the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock
from the inside and hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at
schools all across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There
should be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use
of new technology to make sure that no unauthorized individuals >>>>>>> can ever enter the school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable from the inside and closed to intruders from the
outside. And above all, from this day forward, every school in
America should have a police officer or an armed resource
officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the
end of gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target. Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside >>>>>>> and a hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
For that to work, the doors have to be locked, and the security
officer has to be competent.
------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>  Â Â Â After arriving at the scene, the
security officer drove past the shooter and instead confronted a
teacher, McCraw said.
 Â Â Â McCraw said the shooter gained
access to the school through a door that had been previously
propped open by a teacher.
 Â Â Â The classrooms in which the
shooter entered and shot the students and teachers also had
doors that locked from the inside.
 Â Â Â The Border Patrol tactical
agents that breached the door to kill the suspect after he was
in the school for around 80 minutes did so after receiving keys
from a janitor to unlock one of the doors, McCraw said.
They "breached" by unlocking the door with keys
The big picture: The convention, which started Friday and goes
through Sunday, is the NRA's first since 2019 because of the
coronavirus pandemic.
I thought them bastards went bankrupt.
So did I, but the Dems keep complaining about all the money The
Gun Lobby spends stopping "common sense" gun "safety" laws.
 Â Â Â Leaders and members of the
nation’s two largest teachers unions traveled
to Houston Friday to protest the NRA's convention and advocate
for new gun safety legislation.
------------------------------------------------
The leaders and members would do better by traveling to Uvalde
and advocate for teacher door training and better security
officer vetting. At the end of the day going forward, what
specific new gun "safety" legislation would be more efficacious
than that?
What do you think is the "answer"?
Personally, I'd start by requiring the cessation of all civilian
gun manufacturing and sales.
And you guys think Trump is a fascist.
HawHawHaw!
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But I had an idea.
;
sales"? You think that's and idea? That's more dumbassed than some
of the Dem's proposed laws. How exactly would that work?
Where's yours? I thought so.
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Look at that. My Starlink was laughing so hard at your "idea" that
it couldn't get its download shit together.
Yep, nothing but carp, carp, carp.
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference. "Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass shootings.
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant toWell, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that "
the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be Doing
Something to get votes from their low-information constituency.
--
So. Can you intelligently defend the Dem's dumbass laws, or not?Sorry, Bill, but I've got no desire to talk Dem dumassedness while still faced once again with the historic dumbass interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that folks have which they think (and the dumbass court keeps agreeing with) gives them the nearly
--
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
<Snip>
So. Can you intelligently defend the Dem's dumbass laws, or not?Sorry, Bill, but I've got no desire to talk Dem dumassedness
--
while
still faced once again with the historic dumbass interpretation of
the 2nd Amendment that folks have which they think (and the dumbass
court keeps agreeing with) gives them the nearly unregulated right
to own any f##king firearm they wish. Heck, you're a veteran. When
you were in you probably had to weapon qualify on a regular basis
(annually?) and you certainly weren't able to store your personal
firearms in the barracks. They had to be registered with provost
and stored in an armory on base with the other small arms.
That's
well regulated. If there is a mythic citizen's militia like what's
mentioned in the 2nd Amendment (which I haven't seen hide nor hair
of), it doesn't appear (since it mainly appears non-existent) to be
well regulated. But you aren't interested in the history of the
intent the founders had when crafting the 2nd amendment, and
probably give a shit how I interpret it, so we're not even really
talking to each other,
just exciting a few electrons. Hope you
Memorial Day weekend is going well and that Starlink continues to
link in a star-like fashion.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Since you say Republicans doing nothing then these laws must have been
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant toWell, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be Doing
Something to get votes from their low-information constituency.
--
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban did
slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the sunset of
that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law seemed to make
a difference. "Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with
an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass shootings.
passed by democrats:
Since Parkland in 2018 there have been more then 150 of these gun
control laws passed at the state level,without any real impact.
On 5/29/2022 3:58 PM, Frank Howell wrote:
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Since you say Republicans doing nothing then these laws must have
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant toWell, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely
the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be Doing
Something to get votes from their low-information constituency.
--
nothing, isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault
weapon ban did slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and
with the sunset of that law they markedly increased. So that
"Dumbass" law seemed to make a difference. "Dumbass" laws in other
countries have worked well, with an actual decrease in violent
deaths overall as well as mass shootings.
been passed by democrats:
Since Parkland in 2018 there have been more then 150 of these gun
control laws passed at the state level,without any real impact.
Izzat you, bfh? Carp, carp ,carp...
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on >>>> Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site
of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in Buffalo,
New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov.
Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around >>>> the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the inside
and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology >>>> to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the school >>>> with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable >>>> from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target. >>>> Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, to >>> enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How
can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old guns...
I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? There's
lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting down
innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental disorder....
No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever more Draconian
toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat
them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see the
build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really identifiable
crisis point where they’re acting differently. Sometimes they have
previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the nuclear family.
dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:41:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Since you say Republicans doing nothing then these laws must have been
<snip>
At the end of the day going forward, efficaciousness is irrelevant toWell, doing it the Republican way, i.e., doing absolutely nothing,
the dumbasses. The Dems literally just need to appear to be Doing
Something to get votes from their low-information constituency.
--
isn't working...over and over again. The 1994 assault weapon ban did
slightly decrease the number of mass shootings and with the sunset of
that law they markedly increased. So that "Dumbass" law seemed to make
a difference. "Dumbass" laws in other countries have worked well, with
an actual decrease in violent deaths overall as well as mass shootings.
passed by democrats:
Since Parkland in 2018 there have been more then 150 of these gun
control laws passed at the state level,without any real impact.
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the site >>>>> of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties >>>>> with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA on
Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools around >>>>> the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all >>>>> across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new technology >>>>> to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable >>>>> from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And above
all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest target. >>>>> Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a >>>>> hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! How >>>> can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? Jeeezuz! >>>>
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones shooting
down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and treat
them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see the
build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently. Sometimes
they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the nuclear
family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have offered
six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the shooting:
lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of guns in
schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home schooled,
and the impact of social media."
TB
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this >>>>>> week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties >>>>>> with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all >>>>>> across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a >>>>>> hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change that fact.
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this >>>>>> week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties >>>>>> with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all >>>>>> across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a >>>>>> hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians >>>> Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'" >>
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all ofThere's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change that fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve better.
TB
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, TechnobarbarianAnother predictable response:
wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals
it's predictability. Gun control, more gun control,
common sense gun laws. These assholes wouldn't know
common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
TB
"Former President Trump called for heightened school
security mechanisms at the National Rifle
Association's annual meeting in Houston, Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in
Uvalde, the site of a mass shooting that left 19 kids
and two teachers dead earlier this week, had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass
shooting in Buffalo, New York, that left 10 dead on
May 14 have intensified the debate on gun control
legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations like the NRA, gun manufacturers and
lawmakers who maintain close ties with the gun
lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime
commitment" at the convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person
appearance at the event but still deliver
"pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held
by the NRA on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to
"harden" schools around the nation, calling
specifically for doors that lock from the inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security
overhaul at schools all across our country," Trump
said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry.
There should be strong exterior fencing, metal
detectors and the use of new technology to make sure
that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the
school with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to
make them lockable from the inside and closed to
intruders from the outside. And above all, from this
day forward, every school in America should have a
police officer or an armed resource officer on duty
at all times." The former president also called for
arming teachers and the end of gun-free school
zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be
the softest target. Our schools should be the single
hardest target in our country," Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from
the inside and a hired security officer at the time
of the shooting." [snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds
of people, to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is
just setting up the most targets, for any gunslinger
trying to make a name for himself! How can anyone
believe turning schools into prisons is a solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all
civilian gun production ASAP! Then at least, we will
be dealing with old guns... I can't see how effective
any kind of psych test might be? There's lots of Vets,
getting crazy money from the VA, because they suffer
service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their
certified mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald
I, edicts might become ever more Draconian toward
honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just how he
rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools
a harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are
suicidal. They *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A
police officer on the grounds makes the school a more
attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say
Jillian Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s
possible to ID and treat them before they commit
violence." [snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway.
Early childhood trauma seems to be the foundation,
whether violence in the home, sexual assault, parental
suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see the build toward
hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a
really identifiable crisis point where they’re acting
differently. Sometimes they have previous suicide
attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of
the nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution
Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>>>
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootingsimmigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators haveby White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt tooffered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for
the shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health
issues, a lack of guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools,
children not being home schooled, and the impact of social
media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none
of it but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the
root of all of it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear
family? LIBERALISM! And you libnuts can try to spin it any way
you like but it won't change that fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm
a bit embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of
it, I'll hit a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them.
And, some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary
"nuclear families". One of the recent ones was famous because his
parents bought his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar
with, because it happened in Oregon and I knew one of the
survivors who had been right in the middle of it, his parents
were perfectly ordinary school teachers who became his first
victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That
always worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it
would work eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a
firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These
assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier
this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close >>>>>>> ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools >>>>>>> all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside
and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because >>>>>> they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change
that fact.
There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve
better.
TB
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes >>>>>>>>> wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this >>>>>>>> week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties >>>>>>>> with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all >>>>>>>> across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a >>>>>>>> hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because >>>>>>> they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They >>>>>> *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds >>>>>> makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians >>>>>> Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'" >>>>
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>>>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change that >>> fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve better. >>
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These >>>>>>>>>> assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier >>>>>>>>> this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate >>>>>>>>> on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain
close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" >>>>>>>>> at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance >>>>>>>>> at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at
schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There
should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a >>>>>>>>> police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the >>>>>>>>> end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the
inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the >>>>>>>> most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! >>>>>>>> How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a
solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old >>>>>>>> guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might >>>>>>>> be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because >>>>>>>> they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified
mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become >>>>>>>> ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's >>>>>>>> just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They >>>>>>> *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds >>>>>>> makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will
Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and >>>>>>> treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early >>>>>>> childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, >>>>>>> sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see >>>>>>> the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, >>>>>>> oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently. >>>>>>> Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is
True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns" >>>>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>>>>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School
Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of >>>>> guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM!
And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't
change that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll
hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents
bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been
right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work
eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a
firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, and the
biggest of them all, abortion.
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These >>>>>>>>>>> assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier >>>>>>>>>> this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in >>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate >>>>>>>>>> on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain >>>>>>>>>> close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" >>>>>>>>>> at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance >>>>>>>>>> at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at
schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There >>>>>>>>>> should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new >>>>>>>>>> technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a >>>>>>>>>> police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times." >>>>>>>>>> The former president also called for arming teachers and the >>>>>>>>>> end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the
inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>>>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! >>>>>>>>> How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>>>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun >>>>>>>>> production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old >>>>>>>>> guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>>>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because >>>>>>>>> they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones >>>>>>>>> shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>>>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>>>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>>>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They >>>>>>>> *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds >>>>>>>> makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians >>>>>>>> Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian >>>>>>>> Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and >>>>>>>> treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early >>>>>>>> childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, >>>>>>>> sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see >>>>>>>> the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, >>>>>>>> oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently. >>>>>>>> Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is
True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>>>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns" >>>>>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>>>>>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings >>>>>> by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of >>>>>> guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home >>>>>> schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it >>>>> but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of >>>>> it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And >>>>> you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change
that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit >>>> embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll hit >>>> a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents bought >>>> his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been
right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve
better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a
firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are many
exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, and the
biggest of them all, abortion.
On 5/30/2022 1:08 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:You are right on the money George. It is #40 in “The Naked Communist”....45 goals to destroy the United States of America.
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These
assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston,
Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier
this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun >>>>>>> control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations >>>>>>> like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close >>>>>>> ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools >>>>>>> all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be >>>>>>> strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside
and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because >>>>>> they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change
that fact.
TB
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and
easy divorce. [Note: Done! The sovereign family is the single most
powerful obstacle to authoritarian control.]
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/naked-communist45-goals-destroy-united-states-america-waghelstein
MR
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. >>>>>>>>>>>> These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>>>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in
Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead
earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in >>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the
debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain >>>>>>>>>>> close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime
commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person
appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while >>>>>>>>>>> Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by >>>>>>>>>>> the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" >>>>>>>>>>> schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at >>>>>>>>>>> schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There >>>>>>>>>>> should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new >>>>>>>>>>> technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever
enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>>>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>>>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have >>>>>>>>>>> a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times." >>>>>>>>>>> The former president also called for arming teachers and >>>>>>>>>>> the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our
country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>> inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds >>>>>>>>>> of people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up >>>>>>>>>> the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for >>>>>>>>>> himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a
solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun >>>>>>>>>> production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old >>>>>>>>>> guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test
might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, >>>>>>>>>> because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones >>>>>>>>>> shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified >>>>>>>>>> mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might >>>>>>>>>> become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts!Â
That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
      These guys have a good explanation for why >>>>>>>>> making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. >>>>>>>>> They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the
grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will
Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian >>>>>>>>> Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible
to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. >>>>>>>>> Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, >>>>>>>>> sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you >>>>>>>>> see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation,
self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting >>>>>>>>> differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the >>>>>>>> nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution
Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not
Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people, >>>>>>> immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School
Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the >>>>>>> shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a
lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being
home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none
of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of
all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't
change that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm
a bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it,
I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents
bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been
right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school
teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always >>>>> worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work
eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a
firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are
many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, and
the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was just a
case of random tourism!
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>> Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier this >>>>>> week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the most >>>>> targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a solution? >>>>> Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might be? >>>>> There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified mental >>>>> disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might become ever >>>>> more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's just >>>>> how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They >>>> *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds >>>> makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will Politicians >>>> Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and >>>> treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see >>>> the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, >>>> oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'" >>
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School Shootings >> by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM! And you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't change that fact.There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a bit embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents bought his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been right in the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve better.
TBThe common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, and the
biggest of them all, abortion.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs.
On 5/30/2022 5:16 PM, MR wrote:
On 5/30/2022 1:08 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:You are right on the money George. It is #40 in “The Naked
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it'sAnother predictable response:
predictability.
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These
assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday — mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead earlier
this week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the debate on >>>>>>>> gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights
organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain close >>>>>>>> ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" at the >>>>>>>> convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance at the >>>>>>>> event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the NRA >>>>>>>> on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at
schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There
should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter the >>>>>>>> school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a police >>>>>>>> officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times."
The former president also called for arming teachers and the end of >>>>>>>> gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our country," >>>>>>>> Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the inside >>>>>>>> and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw! The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up the
most targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for
himself! How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>> solution? Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test might
be? There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA,
because they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the
ones shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified >>>>>>> mental disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might
become ever more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun
nuts! That's just how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. They >>>>>> *want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the grounds >>>>>> makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will
Politicians Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. Early childhood >>>>>> trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is True'" >>>>
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools >>>>
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html >>>>
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people,
immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School
Shootings by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family? LIBERALISM!
And you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't
change that fact.
TB
Communist”....45 goals to destroy the United States of America.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and
easy divorce. [Note: Done! The sovereign family is the single most
powerful obstacle to authoritarian control.]
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/naked-communist45-goals-destroy-united-states-america-waghelstein
MR
Only a commie would read commie stuff! HawHawHaw!
kmiller wrote:
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>> On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. These >>>>>>>>>>>>> assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>>>>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Houston, >>>>>>>>>>>> Texas on
Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in
Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead
earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the >>>>>>>>>>>> debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights >>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain >>>>>>>>>>>> close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime commitment" >>>>>>>>>>>> at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person appearance >>>>>>>>>>>> at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," while Lt. >>>>>>>>>>>> Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by the >>>>>>>>>>>> NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" schools >>>>>>>>>>>> around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at >>>>>>>>>>>> schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There >>>>>>>>>>>> should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new >>>>>>>>>>>> technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever enter >>>>>>>>>>>> the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>>>>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>>>>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have a >>>>>>>>>>>> police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times." >>>>>>>>>>>> The former president also called for arming teachers and the >>>>>>>>>>>> end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the softest >>>>>>>>>>>> target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our >>>>>>>>>>>> country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>>> inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting."
[snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a one door, for hundreds of
people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting up >>>>>>>>>>> the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for himself! >>>>>>>>>>> How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>>>>>> solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian gun >>>>>>>>>>> production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing with old >>>>>>>>>>> guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test >>>>>>>>>>> might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the VA, >>>>>>>>>>> because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones >>>>>>>>>>> shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their certified >>>>>>>>>>> mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might >>>>>>>>>>> become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! That's >>>>>>>>>>> just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
      These guys have a good explanation for why making
schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are suicidal. >>>>>>>>>> They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the >>>>>>>>>> grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will
Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian >>>>>>>>>> Peterson and James Densley, which means it’s possible
to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent pathway. >>>>>>>>>> Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the home, >>>>>>>>>> sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then you see >>>>>>>>>> the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, self-loathing, >>>>>>>>>> oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really
identifiable crisis point where they’re acting >>>>>>>>>> differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the >>>>>>>>> nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution Is >>>>>>>> True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on ‘Evil,’ Not
Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people, >>>>>>>> immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School
Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have >>>>>>>> offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the >>>>>>>> shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a
lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being home >>>>>>>> schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none of it >>>>>>> but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of
all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't
change that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm a >>>>>> bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it,
I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents
bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it
happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been
right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school teachers >>>>>> who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That always >>>>>> worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work
eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a
firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are many
exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, and the
biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was just a
case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going
forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
BTW, we went outside tonight to see the Meteor Shower of a Lifetime. In
an hour and a half, we saw 5 pitiful little meteors and one pretty good fireball. Bah humbug. I'm gonna stop following the scientists. But we
did see more meteors than airplanes, so I guess that's something.
On 5/31/2022 12:20 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school >>>>>>>>>>>>> security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Houston,
Texas on
Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary
School in Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead >>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the >>>>>>>>>>>>> debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights >>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who
maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime
commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person
appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," >>>>>>>>>>>>> while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by >>>>>>>>>>>>> the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" >>>>>>>>>>>>> schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at >>>>>>>>>>>>> schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. >>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new >>>>>>>>>>>>> technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make >>>>>>>>>>>>> them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. >>>>>>>>>>>>> And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times." >>>>>>>>>>>>> The former president also called for arming teachers and >>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the >>>>>>>>>>>>> softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our >>>>>>>>>>>>> country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting." >>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a one door, for
hundreds of people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting >>>>>>>>>>>> up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for >>>>>>>>>>>> himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>>>>>>> solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all >>>>>>>>>>>> civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing
with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test >>>>>>>>>>>> might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the >>>>>>>>>>>> VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the >>>>>>>>>>>> ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their >>>>>>>>>>>> certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might >>>>>>>>>>>> become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! >>>>>>>>>>>> That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
      These guys have a good explanation
for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are
suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the >>>>>>>>>>> grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will >>>>>>>>>>> Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say >>>>>>>>>>> Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means
it’s possible to ID and >>>>>>>>>>> treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent
pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the >>>>>>>>>>> home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then >>>>>>>>>>> you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation,
self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really >>>>>>>>>>> identifiable crisis point where they’re
acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the >>>>>>>>>> nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution >>>>>>>>> Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on
‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people, >>>>>>>>> immigrants and victims’ parents" >>>>>>>>>
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School >>>>>>>>> Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have >>>>>>>>> offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the >>>>>>>>> shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a >>>>>>>>> lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not
being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none >>>>>>>> of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of >>>>>>>> all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't
change that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner.
I'm a bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it,
I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you
don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And, >>>>>>> some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear >>>>>>> families". One of the recent ones was famous because his
parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it >>>>>>> happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been >>>>>>> right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school
teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That
always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would
work eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for
it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated
than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are
many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes,
and the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was
just a case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going
forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
Right after you share your ideas.
BTW, we went outside tonight to see the Meteor Shower of a Lifetime.
In an hour and a half, we saw 5 pitiful little meteors and one
pretty good fireball. Bah humbug. I'm gonna stop following the
scientists. But we did see more meteors than airplanes, so I guess
that's something.
Too cloudy here to see anything. Guess I'm glad I didn't miss anything.
kmiller wrote:
On 5/31/2022 12:20 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7,
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school security >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Houston,
Texas on
Friday  mechanisms that Robb Elementary
School in Uvalde, the
site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass shooting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who maintain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime
commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person
appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. There >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to make them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the outside. And >>>>>>>>>>>>>> above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all times." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The former president also called for arming teachers and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a one door, for
hundreds of people,
to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just setting >>>>>>>>>>>>> up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a name for >>>>>>>>>>>>> himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all civilian >>>>>>>>>>>>> gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we will be dealing
with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test >>>>>>>>>>>>> might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite their >>>>>>>>>>>>> certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts might >>>>>>>>>>>>> become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun nuts! >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe
      These guys have a good explanation
for why making schools a
harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are
suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on the >>>>>>>>>>>> grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will >>>>>>>>>>>> Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say Jillian >>>>>>>>>>>> Peterson and James Densley, which means
it’s possible to ID and >>>>>>>>>>>> treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s this really consistent
pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in the >>>>>>>>>>>> home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then >>>>>>>>>>>> you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation,
self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really >>>>>>>>>>>> identifiable crisis point where they’re
acting differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of the >>>>>>>>>>> nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching 'Evolution >>>>>>>>>> Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on
‘Evil,’ Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans people, >>>>>>>>>> immigrants and victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School >>>>>>>>>> Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators have >>>>>>>>>> offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed for the >>>>>>>>>> shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, a >>>>>>>>>> lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not being >>>>>>>>>> home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe none >>>>>>>>> of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root of >>>>>>>>> all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't >>>>>>>>> change that
fact.
address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. I'm >>>>>>>> a bit
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of it, >>>>>>>> I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you >>>>>>>> don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. And, >>>>>>>> some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary "nuclear >>>>>>>> families". One of the recent ones was famous because his parents >>>>>>>> bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it >>>>>>>> happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had been >>>>>>>> right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school
teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married
unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That
always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would work >>>>>>>> eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for it...a >>>>>>> firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated than that. >>>>>>
many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes,
and the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was just
a case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going
forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
Right after you share your ideas.
At the end of the day going forward, how do I know you're not lying? You
libs have demonstrated a statistically significant tendency to dodge questions or decline to reveal and support what you think by using a
variety of tools transitorily rented from the Spin Socky toolbox that's always on the table.
Carp, carp, carp.
BTW, we went outside tonight to see the Meteor Shower of a Lifetime.
In an hour and a half, we saw 5 pitiful little meteors and one pretty
good fireball. Bah humbug. I'm gonna stop following the scientists.
But we did see more meteors than airplanes, so I guess that's something. >>>
Too cloudy here to see anything. Guess I'm glad I didn't miss anything.
On 5/31/2022 6:19 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/31/2022 12:20 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to >>>>>>>>> address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. >>>>>>>>> I'm a bit
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7,     ÂÂÂ
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Houston,
Texas on
Friday â€â€ÂÂ
mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times."
The former president also called for arming teachers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a
one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just
setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a
name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all
civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we
will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from
the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts
might become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun
nuts! That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe >>>>>>>>>>>>>
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>>>>>>>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are >>>>>>>>>>>>> suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will >>>>>>>>>>>>> Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means
it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s
this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then >>>>>>>>>>>>> you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation,
self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really >>>>>>>>>>>>> identifiable crisis point where
they’re acting
differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of >>>>>>>>>>>> the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching
'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on
‘Evil,’
Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans >>>>>>>>>>> people,
immigrants and
victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School >>>>>>>>>>> Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators >>>>>>>>>>> have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed >>>>>>>>>>> for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, >>>>>>>>>>> a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not >>>>>>>>>>> being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe >>>>>>>>>> none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root >>>>>>>>>> of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't >>>>>>>>>> change that
fact.
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of
it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you >>>>>>>>> don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. >>>>>>>>> And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary
"nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his
parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it >>>>>>>>> happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had
been right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school >>>>>>>>> teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married >>>>>>>>> unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That >>>>>>>>> always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would >>>>>>>>> work eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for
it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated >>>>>>>> than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are >>>>>>> many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, >>>>>>> and the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was
just a case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going
forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
Right after you share your ideas.
At the end of the day going forward, how do I know you're not lying?
You libs have demonstrated a statistically significant tendency to
dodge questions or decline to reveal and support what you think by
using a variety of tools transitorily rented from the Spin Socky
toolbox that's always on the table.
Just another empty bucket. I thought so.
Carp, carp, carp.
BTW, we went outside tonight to see the Meteor Shower of a
Lifetime. In an hour and a half, we saw 5 pitiful little meteors
and one pretty good fireball. Bah humbug. I'm gonna stop following
the scientists. But we did see more meteors than airplanes, so I
guess that's something.
Too cloudy here to see anything. Guess I'm glad I didn't miss
anything.
kmiller wrote:
On 5/31/2022 6:19 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/31/2022 12:20 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 5/30/2022 4:46 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/30/2022 2:00 PM, dm_callier wrote:The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter.
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:54:01 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 5/30/2022 10:08 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/29/2022 10:36 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:There's so much crazy there that I'm not going to attempt to >>>>>>>>>> address all of it or discuss any of it in a rational manner. >>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit
On 5/28/2022 11:04 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
On 5/28/2022 12:35 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/27/2022 8:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-7,     ÂÂÂ
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 5/25/2022 7:13 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predictability.Another predictable response:
Gun control, more gun control, common sense gun laws. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These assholes
wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-responds-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-action-uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-democrats-gun-control-prayers
"Former President Trump called for heightened school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security
mechanisms
at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Houston,
Texas on
Friday â€â€ÂÂ
mechanisms that Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site of a
mass shooting that left 19 kids and two teachers dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier this
week,
had.
Why it matters: The Uvalde tragedy and the mass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting in
Buffalo, New
York, that left 10 dead on May 14 have intensified the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate on gun
control legislation and renewed scrutiny of gun rights >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
like the NRA, gun manufacturers and lawmakers who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintain close ties
with the gun lobby.
Trump decided on Wednesday to keep his "longtime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment" at the
convention despite the shooting.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) canceled his in-person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appearance at the
event but still deliver "pre-recorded video remarks," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while Lt.
Gov. Dan
Patrick (R) called off his speech at a breakfast held >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the NRA
on Friday.
What they're saying: Trump said it was time to "harden" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools
around
the nation, calling specifically for doors that lock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
inside and
hired security guards.
"What we need now is a top-to-bottom security overhaul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at schools all
across our country," Trump said.
"Every building should have a single point of entry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be
strong exterior fencing, metal detectors and the use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
technology
to make sure that no unauthorized individuals can ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter the
school
with a weapon."
"In addition, classroom doors should be hardened to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make them
lockable
from the inside and closed to intruders from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside. And
above all,
from this day forward, every school in America should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a police
officer or an armed resource officer on duty at all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times."
The former president also called for arming teachers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the end of
gun-free school zones.
"Surely, we can all agree our school should not be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> softest
target.
Our schools should be the single hardest target in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country,"
Trump said.
Robb Elementary School had both doors that lock from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the inside and a
hired security officer at the time of the shooting." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/27/trump-nra-meeting-houston-uvalde-elementary
TB
HawHawHaw!  The jam up, of a
one door, for hundreds of people, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to enter a schoolhouse, from outside, is just
setting up the most
targets, for any gunslinger trying to make a
name for himself!
How can anyone believe turning schools into prisons is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution?
Jeeezuz!
If I were Emperor Donald the 1st, I'd stop all
civilian gun
production ASAP! Then at least, we
will be dealing with old
guns... I can't see how effective any kind of psych test >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be?
There's lots of Vets, getting crazy money from
the VA, because
they suffer service related PTSD, and they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't the ones
shooting down innocent bystanders, despite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their certified mental
disorder.... No doubt, Emperor Donald I, edicts
might become ever
more Draconian toward honest freedom loving gun
nuts! That's just
how he rolls.....
Donald the 1st, Boss of the Universe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
These guys have a good explanation for why making schools a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder target doesn't work. Our school shooters are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suicidal. They
*want* to die in a blaze of glory. A police officer on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the grounds
makes the school a more attractive target for them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/27/stopping-mass-shooters-q-a-00035762
"Two Professors Found What Creates a Mass Shooter. Will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Politicians
Pay Attention?
Mass shooters overwhelmingly fit a certain profile, say >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jillian
Peterson and James Densley, which means
it’s possible to ID and
treat them before they commit violence."
[snip]
"Peterson: There’s
this really consistent pathway. Early childhood
trauma seems to be the foundation, whether violence in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the home,
sexual assault, parental suicides, extreme bullying. Then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you see
the build toward hopelessness, despair, isolation, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-loathing,
oftentimes rejection from peers. That turns into a really >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifiable crisis point where
they’re acting
differently.
Sometimes they have previous suicide attempts.
Many, maybe most, of these issues come from the decline of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
nuclear family.
"Pastor Blames Uvalde Shooting On Schools Teaching
'Evolution Is True'"
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/pastor-blames-uvalde-shooting-schools
"At N.R.A. Convention, the Blame Is on
‘Evil,’
Not Guns"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/28/us/politics/nra-convention-guns.html
"Who are the right blaming for the Texas shooting? Trans >>>>>>>>>>>> people,
immigrants and
victims’ parents"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/right-wing-blame-uvalde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
"New Research Shows More People Blame Video Games on School >>>>>>>>>>>> Shootings
by White Perpetrators"
https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/features/schoolshootingsvideogames.html
"Among the many reasons suggested, right-wing commentators >>>>>>>>>>>> have
offered six significant suggestions that could be blamed >>>>>>>>>>>> for the
shooting: lockdowns due to COVID-19, mental health issues, >>>>>>>>>>>> a lack of
guns in schools, unlocked doors at schools, children not >>>>>>>>>>>> being home
schooled, and the impact of social media."
Maybe some of the above is true, maybe all of it or maybe >>>>>>>>>>> none of it
but... the destruction of the nuclear family is at the root >>>>>>>>>>> of all of
it. What caused the destruction of the nuclear family?
LIBERALISM! And
you libnuts can try to spin it any way you like but it won't >>>>>>>>>>> change that
fact.
embarrassed to make any response. But, just for the fun of >>>>>>>>>> it, I'll hit
a few of the high points.
The way you use the word "liberalism" just means everything you >>>>>>>>>> don't like.
The nuclear family is not dead. We still have a lot of them. >>>>>>>>>> And,
some of our school shooters came from perfectly ordinary
"nuclear
families". One of the recent ones was famous because his
parents bought
his guns for him. In the case I'm most familiar with, because it >>>>>>>>>> happened in Oregon and I knew one of the survivors who had >>>>>>>>>> been right in
the middle of it, his parents were perfectly ordinary school >>>>>>>>>> teachers
who became his first victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurston_High_School_shooting >>>>>>>>>>
I suppose we should go back to forcing people to stay married >>>>>>>>>> unless they can afford to buy forgiveness from the Pope. That >>>>>>>>>> always
worked so well. With no abortions or birth control it would >>>>>>>>>> work eve better.
TB
The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for
it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated >>>>>>>>> than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are >>>>>>>> many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, >>>>>>>> and the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was
just a case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going
forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
Right after you share your ideas.
At the end of the day going forward, how do I know you're not lying?
You libs have demonstrated a statistically significant tendency to
dodge questions or decline to reveal and support what you think by
using a variety of tools transitorily rented from the Spin Socky
toolbox that's always on the table.
Just another empty bucket. I thought so.
HawHawHaw! That from the master of the ricochet.
bfh <[email protected]> wrote:
kmiller wrote:
The other common denominator in mass shootings is the shooter. >>>>>>>The common denominator in all mass shootings is...wait for >>>>>>>>> it...a firearm. It doesn't really have to be more complicated >>>>>>>>> than that.
But it's not the common denominator of mass killings. There are >>>>>>>> many exceptions including but not limited to, bombs, airplanes, >>>>>>>> and the biggest of them all, abortion.
Remove the guns and their ain't no shooters. Wait! Maybe it was >>>>>> just a case of random tourism!
Tell me your plan to remove guns that at the end of the day going >>>>> forward, will literally be likely to remove the guns.
Right after you share your ideas.
At the end of the day going forward, how do I know you're not lying?
You libs have demonstrated a statistically significant tendency to
dodge questions or decline to reveal and support what you think by
using a variety of tools transitorily rented from the Spin Socky
toolbox that's always on the table.
Just another empty bucket. I thought so.
HawHawHaw! That from the master of the ricochet.I don’t think he is THE master. He and CC&P are neck and neck in that area.
After 14 months, Fido is still a moron, and the orange goon is still waiting for his handcuffs.
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege that
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous racism in
storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did they leave
out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that
list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous
racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did
they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in
that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this
outrageous racism in storm names, there should be. And for that
matter, why did they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally
obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and they should be
held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's
probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill,
black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with
a name in the common usage...
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in
that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this
outrageous racism in storm names, there should be. And for that
matter, why did they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally
obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and they should be
held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there'sI allege that you have conflated that which was not intended to be
probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill,
black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with
a name in the common usage...
conflated - race and queer - just so that you could allege what you
alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Arabs, and/or East Indians
who are named Tammy or Nigel do you probably bet there are out there?
At the end of the day going forward, I bet there are damfew -
statistically speaking.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:54:20 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major
storms. Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
I allege that you have conflated that which was not intended tothat there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names
in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about
this outrageous racism in storm names, there should be. And
for that matter, why did they leave out a Q name? The WMO is
literally obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and
they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's
probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar
bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of
letters, with a name in the common usage...
be conflated - race and queer - just so that you could allege
what you alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Arabs,
and/or East Indians who are named Tammy or Nigel do you probably
bet there are out there? At the end of the day going forward, I
bet there are damfew - statistically speaking. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
There's damn few Tammys, or Nigels, around either! Has there ever
been a Hurricane named either "Tammy", or "Nigel"?
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:54:20 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major
storms. Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
I allege that you have conflated that which was not intended tothat there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names
in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about
this outrageous racism in storm names, there should be. And
for that matter, why did they leave out a Q name? The WMO is
literally obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and
they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's
probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar
bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of
letters, with a name in the common usage...
be conflated - race and queer - just so that you could allege
what you alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Arabs,
and/or East Indians who are named Tammy or Nigel do you probably
bet there are out there? At the end of the day going forward, I
bet there are damfew - statistically speaking. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
There's damn few Tammys, or Nigels, around either! Has there everNot that I know of, but it appears uniquely possible that there's
been a Hurricane named either "Tammy", or "Nigel"?
about to be - if Climate Change does its part. Did you think I just
pulled those names out of my ass at the end of the day going forward?
Didn't you read the link? Here, I'll make it literally easy for you by giving you a link straight to the names, and you won't even have to
scroll and possibly get a transitory brain strain:
https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2023/05/1336/752/c6ae1c13-Untitled-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:17:51 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:hurricanes more seriously if they gave them serious names. Anything but Whitney. They might as well call it Whitey.
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:54:20 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major
storms. Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
Not that I know of, but it appears uniquely possible that there'sI allege that you have conflated that which was not intended tothat there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names
in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about
this outrageous racism in storm names, there should be. And
for that matter, why did they leave out a Q name? The WMO is
literally obviously populated by a bunch of homophobes, and
they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's
probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar
bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of
letters, with a name in the common usage...
be conflated - race and queer - just so that you could allege
what you alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Arabs,
and/or East Indians who are named Tammy or Nigel do you probably
bet there are out there? At the end of the day going forward, I
bet there are damfew - statistically speaking. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
There's damn few Tammys, or Nigels, around either! Has there ever
been a Hurricane named either "Tammy", or "Nigel"?
about to be - if Climate Change does its part. Did you think I just
pulled those names out of my ass at the end of the day going forward?
Didn't you read the link? Here, I'll make it literally easy for you by
giving you a link straight to the names, and you won't even have to
scroll and possibly get a transitory brain strain:
https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2023/05/1336/752/c6ae1c13-Untitled-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
This is a ridiculous discussion. Tammy ? Nigel? Could they make hurricanes more boring? They should be drawing names from other sources. How about a Godzilla hurricane? Or Frankenstein? Or Satan? Or Death? Or The Destroyer? People might take
TB
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that
list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous
racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did
they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:17:51 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:54:20 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM >>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major
storms. Sometimes there are and sometimes there
aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
--Not that I know of, but it appears uniquely possible thatI allege that you have conflated that which was not intendedthat there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople
names in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty
soon about this outrageous racism in storm names, there
should be. And for that matter, why did they leave out a
Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held
accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet
there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a
three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed
by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
to be conflated - race and queer - just so that you could
allege what you alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans,
Arabs, and/or East Indians who are named Tammy or Nigel do
you probably bet there are out there? At the end of the day
going forward, I bet there are damfew - statistically
speaking. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
There's damn few Tammys, or Nigels, around either! Has there
ever been a Hurricane named either "Tammy", or "Nigel"?
there's about to be - if Climate Change does its part. Did you
think I just pulled those names out of my ass at the end of the
day going forward? Didn't you read the link? Here, I'll make it
literally easy for you by giving you a link straight to the
names, and you won't even have to scroll and possibly get a
transitory brain strain:
https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2023/05/1336/752/c6ae1c13-Untitled-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
This is a ridiculous discussion. Tammy ? Nigel? Could they make
hurricanes more boring? They should be drawing names from other
sources. How about a Godzilla hurricane? Or Frankenstein? Or Satan?
Or Death? Or The Destroyer? People might take hurricanes more
seriously if they gave them serious names. Anything but Whitney.
They might as well call it Whitey.
On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that
list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous
racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did
they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive, Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:enough money from his fans for one or two hurricanes. Amazon would probably want to get in on the action. Maybe offer special discounts to customers who were hit by their hurricanes? Insurance companies are another obvious customer.
On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive,
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that
list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous
racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did
they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a >>>> bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
Yeah, there are a ton of names that are better than the official list. I also like: Bambi, Puff, Hammer, Nightmare, Hamburger, Milkshake and Buttercup better than what's on that list.
Biden would probably feel honored by being included. But, Heck, what am I thinking?!?!? The government could raise a lot of money by auctioning the naming rights, one hurricane at a time. Elon is an obvious customer. I'll bet #45 could raise
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:17:51 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 9:54:20 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM >>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major
storms. Sometimes there are and sometimes there
aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
--Not that I know of, but it appears uniquely possible thatI allege that you have conflated that which was not intendedthat there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople
names in that list. If there aren't some protests pretty
soon about this outrageous racism in storm names, there
should be. And for that matter, why did they leave out a
Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held
accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet
there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a
three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed
by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
to be conflated - race and queer - just so that you could
allege what you alleged. How many Blacks, Asians, Mexicans,
Arabs, and/or East Indians who are named Tammy or Nigel do
you probably bet there are out there? At the end of the day
going forward, I bet there are damfew - statistically
speaking. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
There's damn few Tammys, or Nigels, around either! Has there
ever been a Hurricane named either "Tammy", or "Nigel"?
there's about to be - if Climate Change does its part. Did you
think I just pulled those names out of my ass at the end of the
day going forward? Didn't you read the link? Here, I'll make it
literally easy for you by giving you a link straight to the
names, and you won't even have to scroll and possibly get a
transitory brain strain:
https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2023/05/1336/752/c6ae1c13-Untitled-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
This is a ridiculous discussion. Tammy ? Nigel? Could they makeC'mon, man....look.....at the end of the day going forward, calling
hurricanes more boring? They should be drawing names from other
sources. How about a Godzilla hurricane? Or Frankenstein? Or Satan?
Or Death? Or The Destroyer? People might take hurricanes more
seriously if they gave them serious names. Anything but Whitney.
They might as well call it Whitey.
them serious and fearsome names would literally be risky and
incautious. What if they called one The Destroyer, and it turned out
to be wimpy and only half-broke one tree on a side street in a small
redneck climate change denying town? I'll tell you what - the
credibility of weather people from the WMO down to the local station
is what would be destroyed. Innocent weather people would lose their
jobs and be unable to feed their families and coastal politicians
would tremble in their dress sneakers and it's uniquely possible that
they'd lose their next election. I allege that your poorly pondered fear-mongering naming scheme would be inefficacious on many levels,
and by the metric of any calculus is simply a bad idea.
So....look.....do The Right Thing and take it off the table, man -
before social media influencers can establish it as an existential
Threat to Democracy and people start boycotting hurricanes.
Meanwhile, I allege that someone must be held accountable by someone
for failing to follow the universally accepted principles of DEI when
naming 2023 potential hurricanes.
Follow the principles..............and the science, of course.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On 6/2/2023 12:54 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:money from his fans for one or two hurricanes. Amazon would probably want to get in on the action. Maybe offer special discounts to customers who were hit by their hurricanes? Insurance companies are another obvious customer.
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:
On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive, >> Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that >>>> list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous >>>> racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did >>>> they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a >>>> bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
Yeah, there are a ton of names that are better than the official list. I also like: Bambi, Puff, Hammer, Nightmare, Hamburger, Milkshake and Buttercup better than what's on that list.
Biden would probably feel honored by being included. But, Heck, what am I thinking?!?!? The government could raise a lot of money by auctioning the naming rights, one hurricane at a time. Elon is an obvious customer. I'll bet #45 could raise enough
TBTrust me, insurance companies want no part of hurricanes. As to names, Snowflake might be good for an end of season hurricane name. Might be
done to the "S"s by then and few of those ever scare anybody.
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:money from his fans for one or two hurricanes. Amazon would probably want to get in on the action. Maybe offer special discounts to customers who were hit by their hurricanes? Insurance companies are another obvious customer.
On 6/2/2023 12:54 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:
On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive, >>>> Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege >>>>>> that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that >>>>>> list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous >>>>>> racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did >>>>>> they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a >>>>>> bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
Yeah, there are a ton of names that are better than the official list. I also like: Bambi, Puff, Hammer, Nightmare, Hamburger, Milkshake and Buttercup better than what's on that list.
Biden would probably feel honored by being included. But, Heck, what am I thinking?!?!? The government could raise a lot of money by auctioning the naming rights, one hurricane at a time. Elon is an obvious customer. I'll bet #45 could raise enough
Trust me, insurance companies want no part of hurricanes. As to names,
TB
Snowflake might be good for an end of season hurricane name. Might be
done to the "S"s by then and few of those ever scare anybody.
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)
Whenever some fool says "trust me", I automatically check to be sure I know where my wallet is. I never ever trust the people who say this.
TB
On 6/2/2023 3:13 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:money from his fans for one or two hurricanes. Amazon would probably want to get in on the action. Maybe offer special discounts to customers who were hit by their hurricanes? Insurance companies are another obvious customer.
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:
On 6/2/2023 12:54 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote: >>>> On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive, >>>> Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms. >>>>>>> Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege >>>>>> that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that >>>>>> list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous >>>>>> racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did >>>>>> they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
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Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
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Yeah, there are a ton of names that are better than the official list. I also like: Bambi, Puff, Hammer, Nightmare, Hamburger, Milkshake and Buttercup better than what's on that list.
Biden would probably feel honored by being included. But, Heck, what am I thinking?!?!? The government could raise a lot of money by auctioning the naming rights, one hurricane at a time. Elon is an obvious customer. I'll bet #45 could raise enough
Trust me, insurance companies want no part of hurricanes. As to names,
TB
Snowflake might be good for an end of season hurricane name. Might be
done to the "S"s by then and few of those ever scare anybody.
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Whenever some fool says "trust me", I automatically check to be sure I know where my wallet is. I never ever trust the people who say this.
TBBelieve me, you just don't get it. Absolutely nothing to do with the
topic of hurricane names but of course The Artful Dodger lives up to his
(is that your preferred pronoun?) name.
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On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 1:32:05 PM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:money from his fans for one or two hurricanes. Amazon would probably want to get in on the action. Maybe offer special discounts to customers who were hit by their hurricanes? Insurance companies are another obvious customer.
On 6/2/2023 3:13 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote:
On 6/2/2023 12:54 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-7, George Anthony wrote: >>>>>> On 6/1/2023 10:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:07:00 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:How about Buffy, Brick, Piper, Briony. And if you want to be inclusive, >>>>>> Elton, Dillon, Anderson...
George Anthony wrote:
Seems like every year they expect an increase in major storms. >>>>>>>>> Sometimes there are and sometimes there aren't.Did you see that list of names for the 2023 storms? Well, I allege >>>>>>>> that there is a disproportionate number of whitepeople names in that >>>>>>>> list. If there aren't some protests pretty soon about this outrageous >>>>>>>> racism in storm names, there should be. And for that matter, why did >>>>>>>> they leave out a Q name? The WMO is literally obviously populated by a >>>>>>>> bunch of homophobes, and they should be held accountable.
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/atlantic-hurricane-season-outlook-csu-june-2023
Look....like, Storm Names Matter, you know.
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bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
What is your criteria for "whitepeople" names? I bet there's probably plenty of "them" out there, queer as a three dollar bill, black as the ace of spades, & followed by a host of letters, with a name in the common usage...
Merriam Webster Jr.
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Yeah, there are a ton of names that are better than the official list. I also like: Bambi, Puff, Hammer, Nightmare, Hamburger, Milkshake and Buttercup better than what's on that list.
Biden would probably feel honored by being included. But, Heck, what am I thinking?!?!? The government could raise a lot of money by auctioning the naming rights, one hurricane at a time. Elon is an obvious customer. I'll bet #45 could raise enough
Believe me, you just don't get it. Absolutely nothing to do with theTrust me, insurance companies want no part of hurricanes. As to names, >>>> Snowflake might be good for an end of season hurricane name. Might be
TB
done to the "S"s by then and few of those ever scare anybody.
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Whenever some fool says "trust me", I automatically check to be sure I know where my wallet is. I never ever trust the people who say this.
TB
topic of hurricane names but of course The Artful Dodger lives up to his
(is that your preferred pronoun?) name.
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lol, Originally this thread wasn't about hurricane names, almighty keeper of the topic.
Over the years how many time do you think you have trolled me with this sort of sophomoric and repetitive troll? It must be at least a couple of thousand times. And you still deny being a troll? LOL
TB
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