• not camping, but...

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 20:12:13 2025
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jan 16 00:04:23 2025
    sticks wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to take a hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


    You sure it was a hawk? Could have been a government robot watching
    you - particularly since you were in Area 57. There's probably more
    stuff going on there than in 51.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jan 16 07:49:38 2025
    On 1/15/2025 11:04 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


    You sure it was a hawk? Could have been a government robot watching you
    - particularly since you were in Area 57. There's probably more stuff
    going on there than in 51.


    Reminded me of a time last year when I had to run up to town and on the
    way I saw this very large Golden Eagle in the ditch feasting on a fresh
    deer kill. This was not a small fawn, but a good sized doe. On the way
    back home, I passed them again and the eagle had dragged that carcass
    about 50 feet away from the road and was enjoying a little more privacy.
    I was amazed at the strength that must have taken.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jan 16 14:51:05 2025
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south Texas <grin>.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jan 16 14:51:10 2025
    bfh <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


    You sure it was a hawk? Could have been a government robot watching
    you - particularly since you were in Area 57. There's probably more
    stuff going on there than in 51.


    At least six times more.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jan 16 14:52:00 2025
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/15/2025 11:04 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to take a >>> hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing I saw >>> was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


    You sure it was a hawk? Could have been a government robot watching you
    - particularly since you were in Area 57. There's probably more stuff
    going on there than in 51.


    Reminded me of a time last year when I had to run up to town and on the
    way I saw this very large Golden Eagle in the ditch feasting on a fresh
    deer kill. This was not a small fawn, but a good sized doe. On the way
    back home, I passed them again and the eagle had dragged that carcass
    about 50 feet away from the road and was enjoying a little more privacy.
    I was amazed at the strength that must have taken.


    It’s amazing what some of those raptors can capture, especially eagles.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Jan 16 12:23:15 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south Texas <grin>.

    Be patient. The Dreaded Polar Vortex is headed your way.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jan 16 12:59:59 2025
    On 1/16/2025 11:23 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to take a >>> hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing I saw >>> was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple miles, >>> but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south Texas
    <grin>.

    Be patient. The Dreaded Polar Vortex is headed your way.


    No yet, as I just got back from 4.5 miles in 37F with 17 MPH SE winds.
    Sweat my tail off. Lost my hat after I stuck it in a pocket to cool my
    bald head off. Sunday will be the start of 3 sub zero days here.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jan 16 16:48:54 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 1/16/2025 11:23 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to >>>> take a
    hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but
    almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing >>>> I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south
    Texas
    <grin>.

    Be patient. The Dreaded Polar Vortex is headed your way.


    No yet, as I just got back from 4.5 miles in 37F with 17 MPH SE winds.
    Sweat my tail off.  Lost my hat after I stuck it in a pocket to cool
    my bald head off.  Sunday will be the start of 3 sub zero days here.

    Have you done something that requires self-punishment?

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jan 16 16:14:30 2025
    On 1/16/2025 3:48 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 1/16/2025 11:23 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted to >>>>> take a
    hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but almost no >>>>> wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym. >>>>>
    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing >>>>> I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a couple
    miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south
    Texas
    <grin>.

    Be patient. The Dreaded Polar Vortex is headed your way.


    No yet, as I just got back from 4.5 miles in 37F with 17 MPH SE winds.
    Sweat my tail off.  Lost my hat after I stuck it in a pocket to cool
    my bald head off.  Sunday will be the start of 3 sub zero days here.

    Have you done something that requires self-punishment?

    Ha. I love doing it and the only real problem now is the pain
    associated with it...knees and hip. The big difference between the hike
    2 days ago and today's was that the wife was with today. So quiet and
    peaceful Tuesday....noisy today. Love her so much, but man can that
    woman go on and on, and on, and on............


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jan 16 17:48:27 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 1/16/2025 3:48 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 1/16/2025 11:23 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in >>>>>> Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just >>>>>> wanted to take a
    hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F, but >>>>>> almost no
    wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the >>>>>> gym.

    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living
    thing I saw
    was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a >>>>>> couple miles,
    but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in
    south Texas
    <grin>.

    Be patient. The Dreaded Polar Vortex is headed your way.


    No yet, as I just got back from 4.5 miles in 37F with 17 MPH SE
    winds. Sweat my tail off.  Lost my hat after I stuck it in a
    pocket to cool my bald head off.  Sunday will be the start of 3
    sub zero days here.

    Have you done something that requires self-punishment?

    Ha.  I love doing it and the only real problem now is the pain
    associated with it...knees and hip.

    Punishing yourself for doing something you love doing is a somewhat
    unusual psychological condition. You've probably choked part of your
    brain trying to wrap it around infinity and nothing.

    The big difference between the
    hike 2 days ago and today's was that the wife was with today.  So
    quiet and peaceful Tuesday....noisy today.  Love her so much, but man
    can that woman go on and on, and on, and on............

    Does that mean she can go on down the trail while you're sitting on a
    rock trying to megaprocess some O2?

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jan 28 01:56:42 2025
    sticks wrote:

    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take
    a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost
    no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!

    LOL, I'm afraid real camping or long walks in the woods are now past me
    but as I saw this group when looking about for some new spots, I
    figured I'd look in.

    I've been wondering about checking out the local RV's at the base which
    are rented out by MWR to active duty and retirees (me, 26 years Navy).

    Would be fun for a short trip to some family and friends who can't put
    us up but have parking space.

    Any terrible pitfalls? I believe I'd be trying to rent a class B Coach?

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Tue Jan 28 02:18:15 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:

    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/15/2025 11:04 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border
    in >>> Wisconsin.  Very rural with no houses close by.  Just wanted
    to take a >>> hike and do some thinking.  It was cold, only about 6F,
    but almost no >>> wind.  Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly
    just in the gym. >>>
    It was wonderful.  No noise...so quiet.  Only other living thing
    I saw >>> was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching.  Only got a
    couple >>> miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!


    You sure it was a hawk? Could have been a government robot
    watching you >> - particularly since you were in Area 57. There's
    probably more stuff >> going on there than in 51.


    Reminded me of a time last year when I had to run up to town and on
    the way I saw this very large Golden Eagle in the ditch feasting on
    a fresh deer kill. This was not a small fawn, but a good sized
    doe. On the way back home, I passed them again and the eagle had
    dragged that carcass about 50 feet away from the road and was
    enjoying a little more privacy. I was amazed at the strength that
    must have taken.


    It’s amazing what some of those raptors can capture, especially
    eagles.

    Virginia Beach has American Bald Eagles. They like the Chesapeake
    River for nesting grounds. Lots of types of raptors here, right in the
    city.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Tue Jan 28 04:35:12 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:

    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to
    take a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but
    almost no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in
    the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a
    couple miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south
    Texas <grin>.

    Hi George, am I reading it right that you live north? Are you aware
    that Texas is an odd spot with lots of 'vortex-like' activity from
    north? I am thinking the Dakotas was it? Trust me, it can get wildly
    cold very fast, especially in northern TX.

    Cold is relative to what you are used to. Me, I cry at 15F. I guess
    I'm a whimp...

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Tue Jan 28 18:46:05 2025
    On 1/27/2025 7:56 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take
    a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost
    no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!

    LOL, I'm afraid real camping or long walks in the woods are now past me
    but as I saw this group when looking about for some new spots, I
    figured I'd look in.

    I've been wondering about checking out the local RV's at the base which
    are rented out by MWR to active duty and retirees (me, 26 years Navy).

    Would be fun for a short trip to some family and friends who can't put
    us up but have parking space.

    Any terrible pitfalls? I believe I'd be trying to rent a class B Coach?

    Welcome Carol!
    ....and Thank You For Your Service!!

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it enough to do
    it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time at. I'm sure
    they have very good directions that probably go with the units
    explaining what you have to do and how things work. Being a Navy vet,
    you must have abilities to do things the average person doesn't.

    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a place you
    can plug it in. They'll probably only have regular 120 volt outlets,
    but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can get you by if the air
    doesn't kick out the breaker if you need it. On my Winnebago view, it
    gets close, but doesn't kick the breakers off.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at what
    they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.


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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Carol on Wed Jan 29 03:00:31 2025
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to take
    a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but almost
    no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a couple
    miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!

    LOL, I'm afraid real camping or long walks in the woods are now past me
    but as I saw this group when looking about for some new spots, I
    figured I'd look in.

    I've been wondering about checking out the local RV's at the base which
    are rented out by MWR to active duty and retirees (me, 26 years Navy).

    Would be fun for a short trip to some family and friends who can't put
    us up but have parking space.

    Any terrible pitfalls? I believe I'd be trying to rent a class B Coach?


    For what you want to do, to an extent, smaller is better. Class B or small Class C gets you into tight spaces, which you are likely to encounter when “mooch docking” at a residence.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Carol on Wed Jan 29 03:02:04 2025
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to
    take a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but
    almost no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in
    the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a
    couple miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south
    Texas <grin>.

    Hi George, am I reading it right that you live north? Are you aware
    that Texas is an odd spot with lots of 'vortex-like' activity from
    north? I am thinking the Dakotas was it? Trust me, it can get wildly
    cold very fast, especially in northern TX.

    Cold is relative to what you are used to. Me, I cry at 15F. I guess
    I'm a whimp...


    I’m in the south near Texas City. But I’ve been to North Dakota <grin>

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Jan 29 17:11:11 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/27/2025 7:56 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to
    take a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F,
    but almost no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly
    just in the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a
    couple miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!

    LOL, I'm afraid real camping or long walks in the woods are now
    past me but as I saw this group when looking about for some new
    spots, I figured I'd look in.

    I've been wondering about checking out the local RV's at the base
    which are rented out by MWR to active duty and retirees (me, 26
    years Navy).

    Would be fun for a short trip to some family and friends who can't
    put us up but have parking space.

    Any terrible pitfalls? I believe I'd be trying to rent a class B
    Coach?

    Welcome Carol!
    ....and Thank You For Your Service!!

    Thanks Sticks!

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it enough to
    do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time at. I'm
    sure they have very good directions that probably go with the units explaining what you have to do and how things work. Being a Navy
    vet, you must have abilities to do things the average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking an
    RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably no internet but if I
    get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from my cell
    (unlimited data plan).

    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a place
    you can plug it in. They'll probably only have regular 120 volt
    outlets, but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can get you by
    if the air doesn't kick out the breaker if you need it. On my
    Winnebago view, it gets close, but doesn't kick the breakers off.

    I have 2 fast charging (1 hour) Ecoflow batteries and a Jackery (middle
    speed charging at 4 hours). I need only the solar panels to match them
    (not terribly expensive but unless perfectly aligned, slow to charge).
    The batteries can also charge off the RV when running.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at what
    they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.

    That was the idea. No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little
    diversion.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style kitchen
    (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have only been
    constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need to be done
    vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic? Let me know.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Jan 29 17:37:08 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border in
    Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to
    take >> a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but
    almost >> no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in
    the gym. >>
    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a
    couple >> miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!

    LOL, I'm afraid real camping or long walks in the woods are now
    past me but as I saw this group when looking about for some new
    spots, I figured I'd look in.

    I've been wondering about checking out the local RV's at the base
    which are rented out by MWR to active duty and retirees (me, 26
    years Navy).

    Would be fun for a short trip to some family and friends who can't
    put us up but have parking space.

    Any terrible pitfalls? I believe I'd be trying to rent a class B
    Coach?


    For what you want to do, to an extent, smaller is better. Class B or
    small Class C gets you into tight spaces, which you are likely to
    encounter when “mooch docking” at a residence.

    Thanks and yes, Class B (I think they are called 'coaches'?). Looks
    like a longer van with it's own truck-like front. Generally 17-20ft
    long and no wider than a standard car. Meant for 1-2 travelers.

    I'd bring the elderly Beagle with us and my lawnmower ramps so he could
    get in and out easier.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Jan 29 19:07:40 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    yesterday I went to an area we call the 57 just over the border
    in >>> Wisconsin. Very rural with no houses close by. Just wanted to
    take a hike and do some thinking. It was cold, only about 6F, but
    almost no wind. Haven't hiked outdoors for awhile, mostly just in
    the gym.

    It was wonderful. No noise...so quiet. Only other living thing I
    saw was a large hawk, sitting in a tree watching. Only got a
    couple miles, but man did I enjoy the time out there.

    Come on spring!



    Yeah, I love getting out in that cold, crisp air down here in south
    Texas <grin>.

    Hi George, am I reading it right that you live north? Are you aware
    that Texas is an odd spot with lots of 'vortex-like' activity from
    north? I am thinking the Dakotas was it? Trust me, it can get
    wildly cold very fast, especially in northern TX.

    Cold is relative to what you are used to. Me, I cry at 15F. I
    guess I'm a whimp...


    I’m in the south near Texas City. But I’ve been to North Dakota <grin>

    My first duty station in the Navy was at an Air Force base in San
    Antonio TX. Wierd I know but it was a joint USAF/USN base testing
    software. I even made Airman of the Month and had my picture on the
    wall for a year.

    I was a 'DP' (computer geek rate). The name changed later to IT.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Fri Jan 31 18:05:39 2025
    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it enough to
    do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time at. I'm
    sure they have very good directions that probably go with the units
    explaining what you have to do and how things work. Being a Navy
    vet, you must have abilities to do things the average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking an
    RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably no internet but if I
    get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from my cell
    (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like to check
    in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on mine I'm probably
    going with Starlink to get service.


    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a place
    you can plug it in. They'll probably only have regular 120 volt
    outlets, but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can get you by
    if the air doesn't kick out the breaker if you need it. On my
    Winnebago view, it gets close, but doesn't kick the breakers off.
    I have 2 fast charging (1 hour) Ecoflow batteries and a Jackery (middle
    speed charging at 4 hours). I need only the solar panels to match them
    (not terribly expensive but unless perfectly aligned, slow to charge).
    The batteries can also charge off the RV when running.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at what
    they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.

    That was the idea. No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little
    diversion.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    When I first came here I was a little surprised at the amount of what
    seemed off-topic stuff. After a little research I found out this
    specific group has a lengthy history of exactly that. But if you can
    filter or ignore things that don't bother you, you can still get
    on-topic help and advice here.

    It has gotten a whole lot calmer since Google Groups died, that's for
    sure. If you don't want to get into things outside RVing, please just
    ignore them and stick around.


    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style kitchen
    (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have only been constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need to be done vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic? Let me know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here. If I don't like it, I"ll just
    not respond. Same probably is true for the others still lurking here,
    but you won't know for sure if you don't try. Give it a rip.



    --
    Better Days Ahead!

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Jan 31 19:43:16 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:

    All I'd say is just give it a try.  You might even like it enough to
    do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time at.  I'm
    sure they have very good directions that probably go with the units
    explaining what you have to do and how things work.  Being a Navy
    vet, you must have abilities to do things the average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking an
    RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin).  Probably no internet but if I
    get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from my cell
    (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like to check
    in on things.  If I ever get the kinks worked out on mine I'm probably
    going with Starlink to get service.


    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a place
    you can plug it in.  They'll probably only have regular 120 volt
    outlets, but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can get you by
    if the air doesn't kick out the breaker if you need it. On my
    Winnebago view, it gets close, but doesn't kick the breakers off.
    I have 2 fast charging (1 hour) Ecoflow batteries and a Jackery (middle
    speed charging at 4 hours).  I need only the solar panels to match them
    (not terribly expensive but unless perfectly aligned, slow to charge).
    The batteries can also charge off the RV when running.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away.  Go take a look at what
    they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.
    That was the idea.  No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little
    diversion.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    When I first came here I was a little surprised at the amount of what
    seemed off-topic stuff.  After a little research I found out this
    specific group has a lengthy history of exactly that.  But if you can
    filter or ignore things that don't bother you, you can still get
    on-topic help and advice here.

    The history is so lengthy that off-topic has been on-topic for some time.

    It has gotten a whole lot calmer since Google Groups died, that's for
    sure.  If you don't want to get into things outside RVing, please just ignore them and stick around.


    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style kitchen
    (RV level) meals.  In fact, Dinner last night would have only been
    constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need to be done
    vegetarian.  Heck, that's apt to be on topic?  Let me know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here.  If I don't like it, I"ll just
    not respond.  Same probably is true for the others still lurking here,
    but you won't know for sure if you don't try.  Give it a rip.





    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Feb 1 14:57:13 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:05:39 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it
    enough to do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend
    some time at. I'm sure they have very good directions that
    probably go with the units explaining what you have to do and
    how things work. Being a Navy vet, you must have abilities
    to do things the average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like
    hooking an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably
    no internet but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot
    some basics from my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like
    to check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on
    mine I'm probably going with Starlink to get service.

    FWIW, I've had fair results using my Samsung S22 as a hotspot.
    There have been places that had no signal, but otherwise it's
    often good enough to stream Jeopardy from my YouTubeTV account.
    Typically what we watch when eating supper.

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sat Feb 1 09:31:13 2025
    On 2/1/2025 8:57 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:05:39 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like
    hooking an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably
    no internet but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot
    some basics from my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like
    to check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on
    mine I'm probably going with Starlink to get service.

    FWIW, I've had fair results using my Samsung S22 as a hotspot.
    There have been places that had no signal, but otherwise it's
    often good enough to stream Jeopardy from my YouTubeTV account.
    Typically what we watch when eating supper.

    I've got it set up now to use my iPhone X and it works just fine, if I
    have signal. Up in the Porkies the wife wanted to watch the
    presidential debate and we couldn't because of low signal. I anticipate
    this to be typical for where we like to be, and I do like to have access
    to the internet, not just for TV.


    --
    Better Days Ahead!

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Sun Feb 2 03:36:26 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it enough
    to do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time
    at. I'm sure they have very good directions that probably go
    with the units explaining what you have to do and how things
    work. Being a Navy vet, you must have abilities to do things the
    average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking
    an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably no internet
    but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from
    my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like to
    check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on mine I'm
    probably going with Starlink to get service.

    I'll kinda group the reply since everyone pretty much said the same.

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free) but I'll be involved
    (if I get off my duff) in short trips and a few days with no email
    don't trouble me. I might make a trial just to First Landing (about 15
    miles from home). Then again, Sandridge has some spots with hookups.
    That's about 50 miles.

    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a
    place you can plug it in. They'll probably only have regular 120
    volt outlets, but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can
    get you by if the air doesn't kick out the breaker if you need
    it. On my Winnebago view, it gets close, but doesn't kick the
    breakers off.

    I have 2 fast charging (1 hour) Ecoflow batteries and a Jackery
    (middle speed charging at 4 hours). I need only the solar panels
    to match them (not terribly expensive but unless perfectly aligned,
    slow to charge). The batteries can also charge off the RV when
    running.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at
    what they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.
    That was the idea. No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little diversion.

    Nothing specific.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    When I first came here I was a little surprised at the amount of what
    seemed off-topic stuff. After a little research I found out this
    specific group has a lengthy history of exactly that. But if you can
    filter or ignore things that don't bother you, you can still get
    on-topic help and advice here.

    I saw some discussions and 1 known troll who exists only to drone on
    endlessly about 'getting the jab' 5 years later.

    It has gotten a whole lot calmer since Google Groups died, that's for
    sure. If you don't want to get into things outside RVing, please
    just ignore them and stick around.

    Will do! I don't mind side topics, I'm however bored silly of the
    political ones just ranting endlessly into the wind.

    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style
    kitchen (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have
    only been constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need
    to be done vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic? Let me
    know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here. If I don't like it, I"ll just
    not respond. Same probably is true for the others still lurking
    here, but you won't know for sure if you don't try. Give it a rip.

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was already making
    up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind some here might like a
    simple one that's cheap and tasty and doesn't involve a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    My assumptions are limited space and cooking implements. I amso assume
    power needs to be used conservatively and on a steady drain that won't
    be popping breakers (your own reference to AC units above and a cable
    leaching power to you in someone's driveway or something like that).

    A cube fridge is all you really need plus 1 burner but I'll suggest a
    small ricemaker that defaults to 'keep warm' after cooking. I have a
    small rice maker with a steamer unit on top so you cook rice inside and
    steam a second item up top. The ricemaker can be used many ways and is
    a low-draw electrical item unlike Microwaves and air fryers.

    <https://www.homedepot.com/p/AROMA-6-Cup-Black-Rice-Cooker-with-Removable-Steam-Tray-ARC-363-1NGB/314474583?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-309441873-_-0-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a>

    (My unit but in red)

    The cube fridge can also be an insulated bag with ice but keeping ice
    in supply may be a problem. The cube fridge can be dispensed with if
    you go all shelf stable foods but folks with RVs generally like a bit
    more or they'd just pitch a pup tent and be done with it, eh?

    Ok, 1 burner (can be plugged in if not built in), a decent pot able to
    hold pasta cooking for 2 (non-stick), a big serving spoon for liquids
    and another one with drain holes. An all-pupose chef's knife (not
    serrated), and a serrated steak knife. Misc spoons and forks, a
    strainer (small but able to hold pasta for 2), measuring spoons in 1
    tsp and 1 TB. A small 'in-sink' dish drainer' is nice but not
    essential. A box of ziploc sandwich bags and a small box of gallon
    ziploc bags. Rice maker with keep warm and steamer attachment. A can
    opener! Various plastic dishes (plates, bowls, cups), a small Dawn
    dishwashing liquid aand a spunge with a scrubber side.

    Deluxe version, a frying pan and an extra pot and liquid measure sets
    (cup, 1/2 cup, 1/3 cup plus extra tsp/TB so if one needs wet stuff and
    other needs dry, you don't have to stop to clean and dry your only
    set). Extra cutting boards.

    Pass your sanity check?

    Ok, simple recipe:

    Brown curry gravy with meatballs over rice.

    Makes enough for 2 generously and can work for 3.

    Gravy, each packet of Mcormicks makes 1 cup. You need 2.
    - Wanna be cheaper and easier in an RV? Get the bulk jugs at Amazon or Walmart. 3 TB powder to a cup of water. Easier to tell if running low
    and 1/2 the price of the packets.

    Meatballs, beef or pork. Can be sausage based, 12-16oz (use 16oz if
    feeding 3). Can go in frozen but if defrosted, be food safe.

    Mushrooms, oyster are perfect but any type you like is fine, about 1 cup

    Curry- use a medium yellow curry blend, 1 tsp to 2 cups gravy, taste
    test and adjust upwards. I like 1/2 TB curry powder (1 1/2 tsp)

    Add gravy mix, curry powder, mushrooms, and meatballs then add required
    water. Simmer until meatballs are done. Stir occasionally. From
    start of simmer, should be done in 10 minutes.

    Rice, basmati of Jasmine taste best. Store brand is fine.
    2/3 cup dry rice
    1 1/3 cups water in rice maker
    - takes about 20 minutes and yields 2 cups rice

    Veggies in steamer top, ex: fresh green beans, corn on the cob cut to
    1/3 ears, mustard greens, baby bok choy (rinse well, can be sandy),
    kale if you can stand that awful stuff, carrots, brussells sprouts,
    'anything you like steamed'. You can mix the veggies and folks can
    pick out what they want.

    Long winded but I don't know how much info you might need?

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to sticks on Sun Feb 2 03:56:12 2025
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/1/2025 8:57 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 18:05:39 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like
    hooking an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably
    no internet but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot
    some basics from my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like
    to check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on
    mine I'm probably going with Starlink to get service.

    FWIW, I've had fair results using my Samsung S22 as a hotspot.
    There have been places that had no signal, but otherwise it's
    often good enough to stream Jeopardy from my YouTubeTV account.
    Typically what we watch when eating supper.

    I've got it set up now to use my iPhone X and it works just fine, if I
    have signal. Up in the Porkies the wife wanted to watch the
    presidential debate and we couldn't because of low signal. I anticipate
    this to be typical for where we like to be, and I do like to have access
    to the internet, not just for TV.



    If you’ll be out a lot you may be looking at Starlink.

    --
    Watching liberal heads explode, I haven’t been this entertained in years.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Carol on Sun Feb 2 03:59:25 2025
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:

    All I'd say is just give it a try. You might even like it enough
    to do it for a get away somewhere you'd like to spend some time
    at. I'm sure they have very good directions that probably go
    with the units explaining what you have to do and how things
    work. Being a Navy vet, you must have abilities to do things the
    average person doesn't.

    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking
    an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably no internet
    but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from
    my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like to
    check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on mine I'm
    probably going with Starlink to get service.

    I'll kinda group the reply since everyone pretty much said the same.

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free)

    Many parks have free wi-fi and that’s about what It is worth.

    but I'll be involved
    (if I get off my duff) in short trips and a few days with no email
    don't trouble me. I might make a trial just to First Landing (about 15
    miles from home). Then again, Sandridge has some spots with hookups.
    That's about 50 miles.

    Make sure you ask the people where you're going if they have a
    place you can plug it in. They'll probably only have regular 120
    volt outlets, but as long as you have a cheap adapter that can
    get you by if the air doesn't kick out the breaker if you need
    it. On my Winnebago view, it gets close, but doesn't kick the
    breakers off.

    I have 2 fast charging (1 hour) Ecoflow batteries and a Jackery
    (middle speed charging at 4 hours). I need only the solar panels
    to match them (not terribly expensive but unless perfectly aligned,
    slow to charge). The batteries can also charge off the RV when
    running.

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at
    what they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.
    That was the idea. No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little
    diversion.

    Nothing specific.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    When I first came here I was a little surprised at the amount of what
    seemed off-topic stuff. After a little research I found out this
    specific group has a lengthy history of exactly that. But if you can
    filter or ignore things that don't bother you, you can still get
    on-topic help and advice here.

    I saw some discussions and 1 known troll who exists only to drone on endlessly about 'getting the jab' 5 years later.

    It has gotten a whole lot calmer since Google Groups died, that's for
    sure. If you don't want to get into things outside RVing, please
    just ignore them and stick around.

    Will do! I don't mind side topics, I'm however bored silly of the
    political ones just ranting endlessly into the wind.

    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style
    kitchen (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have
    only been constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need
    to be done vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic? Let me
    know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here. If I don't like it, I"ll just
    not respond. Same probably is true for the others still lurking
    here, but you won't know for sure if you don't try. Give it a rip.

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was already making
    up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind some here might like a
    simple one that's cheap and tasty and doesn't involve a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    My assumptions are limited space and cooking implements. I amso assume
    power needs to be used conservatively and on a steady drain that won't
    be popping breakers (your own reference to AC units above and a cable leaching power to you in someone's driveway or something like that).

    A cube fridge is all you really need plus 1 burner but I'll suggest a
    small ricemaker that defaults to 'keep warm' after cooking. I have a
    small rice maker with a steamer unit on top so you cook rice inside and
    steam a second item up top. The ricemaker can be used many ways and is
    a low-draw electrical item unlike Microwaves and air fryers.

    <https://www.homedepot.com/p/AROMA-6-Cup-Black-Rice-Cooker-with-Removable-Steam-Tray-ARC-363-1NGB/314474583?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-309441873-_-0-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a>

    (My unit but in red)

    The cube fridge can also be an insulated bag with ice but keeping ice
    in supply may be a problem. The cube fridge can be dispensed with if
    you go all shelf stable foods but folks with RVs generally like a bit
    more or they'd just pitch a pup tent and be done with it, eh?

    Ok, 1 burner (can be plugged in if not built in), a decent pot able to
    hold pasta cooking for 2 (non-stick), a big serving spoon for liquids
    and another one with drain holes. An all-pupose chef's knife (not
    serrated), and a serrated steak knife. Misc spoons and forks, a
    strainer (small but able to hold pasta for 2), measuring spoons in 1
    tsp and 1 TB. A small 'in-sink' dish drainer' is nice but not
    essential. A box of ziploc sandwich bags and a small box of gallon
    ziploc bags. Rice maker with keep warm and steamer attachment. A can opener! Various plastic dishes (plates, bowls, cups), a small Dawn dishwashing liquid aand a spunge with a scrubber side.

    Deluxe version, a frying pan and an extra pot and liquid measure sets
    (cup, 1/2 cup, 1/3 cup plus extra tsp/TB so if one needs wet stuff and
    other needs dry, you don't have to stop to clean and dry your only
    set). Extra cutting boards.

    Pass your sanity check?

    Ok, simple recipe:

    Brown curry gravy with meatballs over rice.

    Makes enough for 2 generously and can work for 3.

    Gravy, each packet of Mcormicks makes 1 cup. You need 2.
    - Wanna be cheaper and easier in an RV? Get the bulk jugs at Amazon or Walmart. 3 TB powder to a cup of water. Easier to tell if running low
    and 1/2 the price of the packets.

    Meatballs, beef or pork. Can be sausage based, 12-16oz (use 16oz if
    feeding 3). Can go in frozen but if defrosted, be food safe.

    Mushrooms, oyster are perfect but any type you like is fine, about 1 cup

    Curry- use a medium yellow curry blend, 1 tsp to 2 cups gravy, taste
    test and adjust upwards. I like 1/2 TB curry powder (1 1/2 tsp)

    Add gravy mix, curry powder, mushrooms, and meatballs then add required water. Simmer until meatballs are done. Stir occasionally. From
    start of simmer, should be done in 10 minutes.

    Rice, basmati of Jasmine taste best. Store brand is fine.
    2/3 cup dry rice
    1 1/3 cups water in rice maker
    - takes about 20 minutes and yields 2 cups rice

    Veggies in steamer top, ex: fresh green beans, corn on the cob cut to
    1/3 ears, mustard greens, baby bok choy (rinse well, can be sandy),
    kale if you can stand that awful stuff, carrots, brussells sprouts,
    'anything you like steamed'. You can mix the veggies and folks can
    pick out what they want.

    Long winded but I don't know how much info you might need?




    --
    Biden has no idea what he is doing but he’s really, really good at it.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Sun Feb 2 17:33:51 2025
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:

    (trimmed)

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free)

    Many parks have free wi-fi and that’s about what It is worth.

    Well, it might work enough for my needs (newsgroups, a few emails).
    I'd have a laptop with external DVD/Bluray drive and some movies.
    Hubby and I can curl up and watch movies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Tue Feb 4 18:13:35 2025
    On 2/2/2025 11:33 AM, Carol wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:

    (trimmed)

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free)

    Many parks have free wi-fi and that’s about what It is worth.

    Well, it might work enough for my needs (newsgroups, a few emails).
    I'd have a laptop with external DVD/Bluray drive and some movies.
    Hubby and I can curl up and watch movies.

    Most places have a fire pit at every site, and sell wood. In the
    evenings people sit around the fire talking and having a beverage. Then
    you always have the s'mores and the pie iron for making camping
    individual pies. Good stuff!


    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Tue Feb 4 18:09:28 2025
    On 2/1/2025 9:36 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:


    Well, hooking up a ship to to pier side must be a lot like hooking
    an RV to water, sewer and Electric. (grin). Probably no internet
    but if I get good signal on my phone I can hotspot some basics from
    my cell (unlimited data plan).

    I slow down on internet when we're out, but yes, I still like to
    check in on things. If I ever get the kinks worked out on mine I'm
    probably going with Starlink to get service.

    I'll kinda group the reply since everyone pretty much said the same.

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free) but I'll be involved
    (if I get off my duff) in short trips and a few days with no email
    don't trouble me. I might make a trial just to First Landing (about 15
    miles from home). Then again, Sandridge has some spots with hookups.
    That's about 50 miles.

    Good plan. Iron out the kinks first. As far as campground WiFi, if you
    have good phone signal, in my mind it is easier and safer than using the campground WiFi, and probably faster.

    My brother lived out of his RV for over a year and stayed longer in each campground and did utilize some WiFi during that time. For longer
    hookups it would make sense if it is fast enough and reliable.

    ---snip---

    Any specific questions about them, ask away. Go take a look at
    what they have and familiarize yourself with them a little.
    That was the idea. No rush, Thinking spring might be a fun little
    diversion.

    Nothing specific.

    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all that
    ain't it?

    When I first came here I was a little surprised at the amount of what
    seemed off-topic stuff. After a little research I found out this
    specific group has a lengthy history of exactly that. But if you can
    filter or ignore things that don't bother you, you can still get
    on-topic help and advice here.

    I saw some discussions and 1 known troll who exists only to drone on endlessly about 'getting the jab' 5 years later.

    I say go get 'em if you want. Eventually it weeds out the idiots.

    It has gotten a whole lot calmer since Google Groups died, that's for
    sure. If you don't want to get into things outside RVing, please
    just ignore them and stick around.

    Will do! I don't mind side topics, I'm however bored silly of the
    political ones just ranting endlessly into the wind.

    You'll have to ignore the political stuff. This group has a history of
    some of that. Easy enough to not participate in it.


    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style
    kitchen (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have
    only been constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would need
    to be done vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic? Let me
    know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here. If I don't like it, I"ll just
    not respond. Same probably is true for the others still lurking
    here, but you won't know for sure if you don't try. Give it a rip.

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was already making
    up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind some here might like a
    simple one that's cheap and tasty and doesn't involve a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    At our house, the wife does just about everything. I handle the grill
    ;-) But when we travel we usually keep it pretty simple. I can grill
    a steak and some type of side and I'm happy.

    My assumptions are limited space and cooking implements. I amso assume
    power needs to be used conservatively and on a steady drain that won't
    be popping breakers (your own reference to AC units above and a cable leaching power to you in someone's driveway or something like that).

    The microwave and electric stoves don't really use that much. Often,
    you will also have a gas grill inside the unit. We use both. It's the
    air that really uses the power.

    A cube fridge is all you really need plus 1 burner but I'll suggest a
    small ricemaker that defaults to 'keep warm' after cooking. I have a
    small rice maker with a steamer unit on top so you cook rice inside and
    steam a second item up top. The ricemaker can be used many ways and is
    a low-draw electrical item unlike Microwaves and air fryers.

    Good thinking. I can eat rice as long as I have access to hot sauce. ;-)


    <https://www.homedepot.com/p/AROMA-6-Cup-Black-Rice-Cooker-with-Removable-Steam-Tray-ARC-363-1NGB/314474583?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-309441873-_-0-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a-_-n/a>

    (My unit but in red)

    The cube fridge can also be an insulated bag with ice but keeping ice
    in supply may be a problem. The cube fridge can be dispensed with if
    you go all shelf stable foods but folks with RVs generally like a bit
    more or they'd just pitch a pup tent and be done with it, eh?

    All depends on how long you're going I suppose. And...how close and
    easy it is to get to a grocery store once you're there.


    Ok, 1 burner (can be plugged in if not built in), a decent pot able to
    hold pasta cooking for 2 (non-stick), a big serving spoon for liquids
    and another one with drain holes. An all-pupose chef's knife (not
    serrated), and a serrated steak knife. Misc spoons and forks, a
    strainer (small but able to hold pasta for 2), measuring spoons in 1
    tsp and 1 TB. A small 'in-sink' dish drainer' is nice but not
    essential. A box of ziploc sandwich bags and a small box of gallon
    ziploc bags. Rice maker with keep warm and steamer attachment. A can opener! Various plastic dishes (plates, bowls, cups), a small Dawn dishwashing liquid aand a spunge with a scrubber side.

    Deluxe version, a frying pan and an extra pot and liquid measure sets
    (cup, 1/2 cup, 1/3 cup plus extra tsp/TB so if one needs wet stuff and
    other needs dry, you don't have to stop to clean and dry your only
    set). Extra cutting boards.

    Pass your sanity check?

    Yep, get all that and go from there.


    Ok, simple recipe:

    Brown curry gravy with meatballs over rice.

    Makes enough for 2 generously and can work for 3.

    Gravy, each packet of Mcormicks makes 1 cup. You need 2.
    - Wanna be cheaper and easier in an RV? Get the bulk jugs at Amazon or Walmart. 3 TB powder to a cup of water. Easier to tell if running low
    and 1/2 the price of the packets.

    Meatballs, beef or pork. Can be sausage based, 12-16oz (use 16oz if
    feeding 3). Can go in frozen but if defrosted, be food safe.

    Mushrooms, oyster are perfect but any type you like is fine, about 1 cup

    Curry- use a medium yellow curry blend, 1 tsp to 2 cups gravy, taste
    test and adjust upwards. I like 1/2 TB curry powder (1 1/2 tsp)

    Add gravy mix, curry powder, mushrooms, and meatballs then add required water. Simmer until meatballs are done. Stir occasionally. From
    start of simmer, should be done in 10 minutes.

    Rice, basmati of Jasmine taste best. Store brand is fine.
    2/3 cup dry rice
    1 1/3 cups water in rice maker
    - takes about 20 minutes and yields 2 cups rice

    Veggies in steamer top, ex: fresh green beans, corn on the cob cut to
    1/3 ears, mustard greens, baby bok choy (rinse well, can be sandy),
    kale if you can stand that awful stuff, carrots, brussells sprouts,
    'anything you like steamed'. You can mix the veggies and folks can
    pick out what they want.

    That's how it's done!

    Long winded but I don't know how much info you might need?

    Long winded is ok here.




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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Feb 5 21:31:23 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/1/2025 9:36 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 1/29/2025 11:11 AM, Carol wrote:
    (Trimmed)

    I note some parks have WiFi (probably not free) but I'll be involved
    (if I get off my duff) in short trips and a few days with no email
    don't trouble me. I might make a trial just to First Landing
    (about 15 miles from home). Then again, Sandridge has some spots
    with hookups. That's about 50 miles.

    Good plan. Iron out the kinks first. As far as campground WiFi, if
    you have good phone signal, in my mind it is easier and safer than
    using the campground WiFi, and probably faster.

    Thanks, seemed sensible.

    My brother lived out of his RV for over a year and stayed longer in
    each campground and did utilize some WiFi during that time. For
    longer hookups it would make sense if it is fast enough and reliable.

    There was a time when I thought seriosly to do that. Young military,
    not married or kids. Just take it with me from dutystation to
    dutystation.


    Grin, unusual to see a new member, not spewing politics and all
    that ain't it?
    I saw some discussions and 1 known troll who exists only to drone on endlessly about 'getting the jab' 5 years later.

    I say go get 'em if you want. Eventually it weeds out the idiots.

    Not really, best to ignore them. My reader calls it the 'bozo bin.
    Perfect name for it.

    Will do! I don't mind side topics, I'm however bored silly of the political ones just ranting endlessly into the wind.

    You'll have to ignore the political stuff. This group has a history
    of some of that. Easy enough to not participate in it.

    Yes, and if a person comes in ONLY to post such, Bozo Bin gets a new
    member.


    Don't worry, if I stray, it's more apt to be easy travel-style
    kitchen (RV level) meals. In fact, Dinner last night would have
    only been constrained by need to keep meatballs cold or would
    need to be done vegetarian. Heck, that's apt to be on topic?
    Let me know.

    Whatever is posted is ok with me here. If I don't like it, I"ll
    just not respond. Same probably is true for the others still
    lurking here, but you won't know for sure if you don't try. Give
    it a rip.

    I have a few ideas. I'll rummage a few up that should work with
    minimal storage needs and gear.

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was already
    making up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind some here
    might like a simple one that's cheap and tasty and doesn't involve
    a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    At our house, the wife does just about everything. I handle the
    grill ;-) But when we travel we usually keep it pretty simple. I
    can grill a steak and some type of side and I'm happy.

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught to be
    that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range too.

    My assumptions are limited space and cooking implements. I also
    assume power needs to be used conservatively and on a steady drain
    that won't be popping breakers (your own reference to AC units
    above and a cable leaching power to you in someone's driveway or
    something like that).

    The microwave and electric stoves don't really use that much. Often,
    you will also have a gas grill inside the unit. We use both. It's
    the air that really uses the power.

    The oven/stove top might be best off propane? That's what I gathered
    from an off-grid group. I was reading up on solar then (later added as
    many panels as my roof could work in effectively and now my 2,000sqft
    house gifts me with small bills about 3 months in summer and 3 in
    winter when the days are shortest. Collectively I get 92% a year of my electric needs from solar and SRECS (pay back) almost equals those
    small bills.

    A cube fridge is all you really need plus 1 burner but I'll suggest
    a small ricemaker that defaults to 'keep warm' after cooking. I
    have a small rice maker with a steamer unit on top so you cook rice
    inside and steam a second item up top. The ricemaker can be used
    many ways and is a low-draw electrical item unlike Microwaves and
    air fryers.

    Good thinking. I can eat rice as long as I have access to hot sauce.
    ;-)

    There ya go! You can heat soups, make oatmeal and a lot of things in a ricemaker.

    The cube fridge can also be an insulated bag with ice but keeping
    ice in supply may be a problem. The cube fridge can be dispensed
    with if you go all shelf stable foods but folks with RVs generally
    like a bit more or they'd just pitch a pup tent and be done with
    it, eh?

    All depends on how long you're going I suppose. And...how close and
    easy it is to get to a grocery store once you're there.

    Yes, I gathered the nearst stores are known for large markups unless
    like our 'First Landing' in Virginia Beach which has a hugh city
    wrapped around it (grin).




    Ok, 1 burner (can be plugged in if not built in), a decent pot able
    to hold pasta cooking for 2 (non-stick), a big serving spoon for
    liquids and another one with drain holes. An all-pupose chef's
    knife (not serrated), and a serrated steak knife. Misc spoons and
    forks, a strainer (small but able to hold pasta for 2), measuring
    spoons in 1 tsp and 1 TB. A small 'in-sink' dish drainer' is nice
    but not essential. A box of ziploc sandwich bags and a small box
    of gallon ziploc bags. Rice maker with keep warm and steamer
    attachment. A can opener! Various plastic dishes (plates, bowls,
    cups), a small Dawn dishwashing liquid aand a spunge with a
    scrubber side.

    Deluxe version, a frying pan and an extra pot and liquid measure
    sets (cup, 1/2 cup, 1/3 cup plus extra tsp/TB so if one needs wet
    stuff and other needs dry, you don't have to stop to clean and dry
    your only set). Extra cutting boards.

    Pass your sanity check?

    Yep, get all that and go from there.

    Cast Iron large pan, can be used in fire pit on a tropod or in the
    coals. Dutch Oven with lid, also cast iron. Cook in firepit or over
    tripod (Remember metal hooks). Make flat bread in frypan.

    https://www.inspiredtaste.net/46128/no-yeast-flatbread/

    On those, add pizza sauce, cheese, pepperoni (pepperoni is shelf
    stable). (one of many ideas). Breakfast wrap with flat breads with
    PB&J or eggs, sausage, onions and hot sauce!

    Roll of aluminium foil and bag of potatoes. If you have a mini-cube
    fridge, add butter. Wrap potatoes and place in coals, turning every 15 minutes.



    Ok, simple recipe:

    Brown curry gravy with meatballs over rice.

    Makes enough for 2 generously and can work for 3.

    Gravy, each packet of Mcormicks makes 1 cup. You need 2.
    - Wanna be cheaper and easier in an RV? Get the bulk jugs at
    Amazon or Walmart. 3 TB powder to a cup of water. Easier to tell
    if running low and 1/2 the price of the packets.

    The jugs come in many sizes. 9.99 at Amazon for the one that makes 9
    cups (Same price at Walmart). Trust me, the cost of the packets that
    make 1 cup are closing in on 2$ each and may be more in some places
    already.

    Mushrooms, Have a few small cans handy. Canned work really well in
    soups.


    Rice, basmati of Jasmine taste best. Store brand is fine.
    2/3 cup dry rice
    1 1/3 cups water in rice maker
    - takes about 20 minutes and yields 2 cups rice

    Veggies in steamer top, ex: fresh green beans, corn on the cob cut
    to 1/3 ears, mustard greens, baby bok choy (rinse well, can be
    sandy), kale if you can stand that awful stuff, carrots, brussells
    sprouts, 'anything you like steamed'. You can mix the veggies and
    folks can pick out what they want.

    That's how it's done!

    Yup! That whole dinner is ready in 20 minutes and most of that time,
    you are typo'ing to us on a newsgroup.

    Long winded but I don't know how much info you might need?

    Long winded is ok here.

    (grin).

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Carol on Thu Feb 6 16:37:30 2025
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 2/1/2025 9:36 PM, Carol wrote:

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was
    already making up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind
    some here might like a simple one that's cheap and tasty and
    doesn't involve a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    At our house, the wife does just about everything. I handle
    the grill ;-) But when we travel we usually keep it pretty
    simple. I can grill a steak and some type of side and I'm
    happy.

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I spent
    almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking) before I
    had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat more
    intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent cook.
    As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed supper.
    After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in his inimitable
    way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Feb 6 16:24:33 2025
    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I spent
    almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking) before I
    had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat more
    intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent cook.
    As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed supper.
    After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in his inimitable
    way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use that so YOU
    have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)


    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Thu Feb 6 16:22:27 2025
    On 2/5/2025 3:31 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    ---snip---

    My brother lived out of his RV for over a year and stayed longer in
    each campground and did utilize some WiFi during that time. For
    longer hookups it would make sense if it is fast enough and reliable.

    There was a time when I thought seriosly to do that. Young military,
    not married or kids. Just take it with me from dutystation to
    dutystation.

    If'n it was just me, I could see it sometimes. But, it is always good
    to just get back home. The problem with home is that there is always
    something to do to maintain things. I guess you just have to find that
    sweet spot.

    ---snip---

    The oven/stove top might be best off propane? That's what I gathered
    from an off-grid group. I was reading up on solar then (later added as
    many panels as my roof could work in effectively and now my 2,000sqft
    house gifts me with small bills about 3 months in summer and 3 in
    winter when the days are shortest. Collectively I get 92% a year of my electric needs from solar and SRECS (pay back) almost equals those
    small bills.

    We have a convection oven and convection cooking top, as well as the
    microwave. Then there is also a set of gas burners over the oven. If
    at all possible, we use the electric stuff. Not sure we've even used
    the gas grill inside yet. Better to save the gas for hot water when
    needed. You gotta pick up to get that refilled unless you have a system
    for using additional bottles.

    ---snip---

    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Feb 7 02:03:49 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 2/1/2025 9:36 PM, Carol wrote:

    Ok! As I tied in here and quietly read for a day, I was
    already making up a new dish for dinner. It came to my mind
    some here might like a simple one that's cheap and tasty and
    doesn't involve a loaf of bread (sandwiches).

    At our house, the wife does just about everything. I handle
    the grill ;-) But when we travel we usually keep it pretty
    simple. I can grill a steak and some type of side and I'm
    happy.

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I spent
    almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking) before I
    had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat more
    intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent cook.
    As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed supper.
    After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in his inimitable
    way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    LOL! Kids can be brutal by accident!

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 02:12:07 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I spent
    almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking) before I
    had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat more
    intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent cook.
    As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed supper.
    After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in his inimitable
    way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use that so
    YOU have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)

    My husband and I are atypical as we both like to cook and sometimes
    squabble over who gets to cook because we both have an idea to try.

    We are fine with the occasional 'just grab a can' sort of evenings when
    neither of us wants to cook.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Thu Feb 6 20:18:09 2025
    On 2/6/2025 8:12 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I spent
    almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking) before I
    had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat more
    intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent cook.
    As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed supper.
    After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in his inimitable
    way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use that so
    YOU have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)

    My husband and I are atypical as we both like to cook and sometimes
    squabble over who gets to cook because we both have an idea to try.

    We are fine with the occasional 'just grab a can' sort of evenings when neither of us wants to cook.

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with tonight.


    --
    Better Days Ahead!
    Darwanism Is Junk Science!!

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 14:31:38 2025
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:22:27 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 3:31 PM, Carol wrote:

    The oven/stove top might be best off propane? That's what I
    gathered from an off-grid group. I was reading up on solar
    then (later added as many panels as my roof could work in
    effectively and now my 2,000sqft house gifts me with small
    bills about 3 months in summer and 3 in winter when the days
    are shortest. Collectively I get 92% a year of my electric
    needs from solar and SRECS (pay back) almost equals those
    small bills.

    We have a convection oven and convection cooking top, as well
    as the microwave. Then there is also a set of gas burners over
    the oven. If at all possible, we use the electric stuff. Not
    sure we've even used the gas grill inside yet. Better to save
    the gas for hot water when needed. You gotta pick up to get
    that refilled unless you have a system for using additional
    bottles.

    Good thought to minimize gas use when possible. Unfortunately,
    our trailer has only gas burners. We do use the microwave a
    *lot*. On the other hand, when flatspotting, the microwave is
    only going to be available when I have the generator going. In
    any case, electricity will be the limiting resource for us then.

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 14:38:38 2025
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:24:33 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were
    taught to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that
    age range too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I
    spent almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking)
    before I had enough and went back to school to start a
    somewhat more intellectually challenging career. So I'm a
    pretty decent cook. As such, I do nearly all the cooking at
    home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed
    supper. After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in
    his inimitable way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use that
    so YOU have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)

    LOL. Not sure she's thought of that, but I don't really mind
    doing it in any case.

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 14:42:18 2025
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:18:09 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 8:12 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    ...I'm a pretty decent cook. As such, I do nearly all the
    cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed
    supper. After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in
    his inimitable way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use
    that so YOU have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)

    My husband and I are atypical as we both like to cook and
    sometimes squabble over who gets to cook because we both have
    an idea to try.

    We are fine with the occasional 'just grab a can' sort of
    evenings when neither of us wants to cook.

    Yeah, we sort of do that too at times, but it's most often
    stopping by a Whole Foods or other similar store to just get what
    each of us likes from the hot bar. Second choice is a meal we can
    zap in the microwave.


    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    I'm sure she loves that.

    Reminds me of a cousin who developed an ulcer over 50 years ago
    (as a young teen). They put him on a very bland diet. He hated
    it, so would say they were trying to poison his ulcer.

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    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Carol on Fri Feb 7 14:44:20 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 02:03:49 -0000 (UTC),
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed
    supper. After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in
    his inimitable way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    LOL! Kids can be brutal by accident!

    Yeah, and that wasn't the only time. In her 50s, my wife
    sorrowfully let the kids know the chronic arthritis in an ankle
    was going to end her walking days at some point. This same kid
    piped up, "That's okay, Mom; you've had a good life."

    --
    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Feb 7 08:49:55 2025
    On 2/7/2025 8:31 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:22:27 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 3:31 PM, Carol wrote:

    The oven/stove top might be best off propane? That's what I
    gathered from an off-grid group. I was reading up on solar
    then (later added as many panels as my roof could work in
    effectively and now my 2,000sqft house gifts me with small
    bills about 3 months in summer and 3 in winter when the days
    are shortest. Collectively I get 92% a year of my electric
    needs from solar and SRECS (pay back) almost equals those
    small bills.

    We have a convection oven and convection cooking top, as well
    as the microwave. Then there is also a set of gas burners over
    the oven. If at all possible, we use the electric stuff. Not
    sure we've even used the gas grill inside yet. Better to save
    the gas for hot water when needed. You gotta pick up to get
    that refilled unless you have a system for using additional
    bottles.

    Good thought to minimize gas use when possible. Unfortunately,
    our trailer has only gas burners. We do use the microwave a
    *lot*. On the other hand, when flatspotting, the microwave is
    only going to be available when I have the generator going. In
    any case, electricity will be the limiting resource for us then.


    First, I guess they call them induction cook tops. The portable ones
    are fairly inexpensive and don't take much room.
    The difference to me is that while we're out hiking for the day, or
    whatever we do, the solar chargers are working on getting all the
    batteries topped off. If I have to, I could always start the generator
    to finish the job.
    Once I run out of LP gas, I have to pick up and go get more.


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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 15:10:14 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 08:58:44 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 8:44 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 02:03:49 -0000 (UTC),
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:

    LOL! Kids can be brutal by accident!

    Yeah, and that wasn't the only time. In her 50s, my wife
    sorrowfully let the kids know the chronic arthritis in an
    ankle was going to end her walking days at some point. This
    same kid piped up, "That's okay, Mom; you've had a good life."

    Hilarious!

    Yeah, we've gotten a lot of mileage out of that one.


    What always bothers me about the youngsters in the family is
    that for one, they don't seem to realize that us older folks
    were also young once, and second that they too will get
    old.....and it happens much faster than they can believe. So
    much wasted time....

    I know, right? I was *never* that way when young. /s

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    Ted Heise <[email protected]> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Feb 7 08:58:44 2025
    On 2/7/2025 8:44 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 02:03:49 -0000 (UTC),
    Carol <[email protected]> wrote:

    LOL! Kids can be brutal by accident!

    Yeah, and that wasn't the only time. In her 50s, my wife
    sorrowfully let the kids know the chronic arthritis in an ankle
    was going to end her walking days at some point. This same kid
    piped up, "That's okay, Mom; you've had a good life."

    Hilarious!
    What always bothers me about the youngsters in the family is that for
    one, they don't seem to realize that us older folks were also young
    once, and second that they too will get old.....and it happens much
    faster than they can believe. So much wasted time....



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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 21:32:41 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 8:12 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/6/2025 10:37 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:31:23 -0000 (UTC),

    LOL, typical. Most folks now in late 50's to 70's were taught
    to be that way. Most doing Newsgroups fall in that age range
    too.

    I fit that demographic (just shy of 70), but am atypical. I
    spent almost 20 years in the restaurant biz (mostly cooking)
    before I had enough and went back to school to start a somewhat
    more intellectually challenging career. So I'm a pretty decent
    cook. As such, I do nearly all the cooking at home (including grilling).

    One night, when the kids were still at home, my wife fixed
    supper. After getting into the meal, our youngest asked (in
    his inimitable way), "Mom, Ted didn't make this, did he?"

    Ha! I'm sure she didn't take offense. She should now use that so
    YOU have to do the cooking all the time. 8-)

    My husband and I are atypical as we both like to cook and sometimes squabble over who gets to cook because we both have an idea to try.

    We are fine with the occasional 'just grab a can' sort of evenings
    when neither of us wants to cook.

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    OOOHHH Meamie!

    For that, you have to read another RV simple dinner!

    1lb ground beef
    1 can black beans (can be anytype, I just like black beans)
    1 can diced tomatoes (fire roasted tonight)
    1 can V8 or other tomato juice you like (but NOT Clamato)
    1 tsp black pepper
    1 tsp medium chile powder
    (I actually used a Cuban spice blend)

    Cook all togther on low, breaking up the beef as you go along. My beef
    was frozen so nibbled it down as it low simmered until it was all mixed
    in.

    Ricemaker in use, doing Jasmine tonight.
    2/3 c dry rice
    1 1/3 cup water

    Serve the mix on rice with a salad.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Feb 7 21:55:23 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:

    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:22:27 -0600,
    sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/5/2025 3:31 PM, Carol wrote:

    The oven/stove top might be best off propane? That's what I
    gathered from an off-grid group. I was reading up on solar
    then (later added as many panels as my roof could work in
    effectively and now my 2,000sqft house gifts me with small
    bills about 3 months in summer and 3 in winter when the days
    are shortest. Collectively I get 92% a year of my electric
    needs from solar and SRECS (pay back) almost equals those
    small bills.

    We have a convection oven and convection cooking top, as well
    as the microwave. Then there is also a set of gas burners over
    the oven. If at all possible, we use the electric stuff. Not
    sure we've even used the gas grill inside yet. Better to save
    the gas for hot water when needed. You gotta pick up to get
    that refilled unless you have a system for using additional
    bottles.

    Good thought to minimize gas use when possible. Unfortunately,
    our trailer has only gas burners. We do use the microwave a
    lot. On the other hand, when flatspotting, the microwave is
    only going to be available when I have the generator going. In
    any case, electricity will be the limiting resource for us then.

    Among my storm supplies is a single burner propane unit. Takes small cannisters (about same size as most spray cans of air
    freshener/lysol/scrubbing bubbles etc.).

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Carol on Fri Feb 7 16:26:06 2025
    On 2/7/2025 3:32 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    OOOHHH Meamie!

    It's all in jest of her efforts at eliminating me. She's a great cook
    and I enjoy all her meals. The only question is how much poison she is
    going to add to my plate. ;-)


    For that, you have to read another RV simple dinner!

    1lb ground beef
    1 can black beans (can be anytype, I just like black beans)
    1 can diced tomatoes (fire roasted tonight)
    1 can V8 or other tomato juice you like (but NOT Clamato)
    1 tsp black pepper
    1 tsp medium chile powder
    (I actually used a Cuban spice blend)

    Cook all togther on low, breaking up the beef as you go along. My beef
    was frozen so nibbled it down as it low simmered until it was all mixed
    in.

    Ricemaker in use, doing Jasmine tonight.
    2/3 c dry rice
    1 1/3 cup water

    Serve the mix on rice with a salad.


    That sounds good, but if I'm out camping and I got a pound of ground
    beef, we're probably going to have a burger. 8-0


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 7 19:34:52 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 3:32 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    OOOHHH Meamie!

    It's all in jest of her efforts at eliminating me.  She's a great cook
    and I enjoy all her meals.  The only question is how much poison she
    is going to add to my plate.  ;-)


    For that, you have to read another RV simple dinner!

    1lb ground beef
    1 can black beans (can be anytype, I just like black beans)
    1 can diced tomatoes (fire roasted tonight)
    1 can V8 or other tomato juice you like (but NOT Clamato)
    1 tsp black pepper
    1 tsp medium chile powder
    (I actually used a Cuban spice blend)

    Cook all togther on low, breaking up the beef as you go along.  My beef
    was frozen so nibbled it down as it low simmered until it was all mixed
    in.

    Ricemaker in use, doing Jasmine tonight.
    2/3 c dry rice
    1 1/3 cup water

    Serve the mix on rice with a salad.


    That sounds good, but if I'm out camping and I got a pound of ground
    beef, we're probably going to have a burger.  8-0

    Damright!

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to sticks on Mon Feb 10 16:01:14 2025
    sticks wrote:

    On 2/7/2025 3:32 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    OOOHHH Meamie!

    It's all in jest of her efforts at eliminating me. She's a great
    cook and I enjoy all her meals. The only question is how much poison
    she is going to add to my plate. ;-)


    For that, you have to read another RV simple dinner!

    1lb ground beef
    1 can black beans (can be anytype, I just like black beans)
    1 can diced tomatoes (fire roasted tonight)
    1 can V8 or other tomato juice you like (but NOT Clamato)
    1 tsp black pepper
    1 tsp medium chile powder
    (I actually used a Cuban spice blend)

    Cook all togther on low, breaking up the beef as you go along. My
    beef was frozen so nibbled it down as it low simmered until it was
    all mixed in.

    Ricemaker in use, doing Jasmine tonight.
    2/3 c dry rice
    1 1/3 cup water

    Serve the mix on rice with a salad.


    That sounds good, but if I'm out camping and I got a pound of ground
    beef, we're probably going to have a burger. 8-0

    EEKK!

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  • From Carol@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Feb 10 16:22:04 2025
    bfh wrote:

    sticks wrote:
    On 2/7/2025 3:32 PM, Carol wrote:
    sticks wrote:

    I usually just ask my wife what she is going to poison me with
    tonight.

    OOOHHH Meamie!

    It's all in jest of her efforts at eliminating me.  She's a great
    cook and I enjoy all her meals.  The only question is how much
    poison she is going to add to my plate.  ;-)


    For that, you have to read another RV simple dinner!

    1lb ground beef
    1 can black beans (can be anytype, I just like black beans)
    1 can diced tomatoes (fire roasted tonight)
    1 can V8 or other tomato juice you like (but NOT Clamato)
    1 tsp black pepper
    1 tsp medium chile powder
    (I actually used a Cuban spice blend)

    Cook all togther on low, breaking up the beef as you go along. 
    My beef was frozen so nibbled it down as it low simmered until it
    was all mixed in.

    Ricemaker in use, doing Jasmine tonight.
    2/3 c dry rice
    1 1/3 cup water

    Serve the mix on rice with a salad.


    That sounds good, but if I'm out camping and I got a pound of
    ground beef, we're probably going to have a burger.  8-0

    Damright!

    hahaha, ok guys.

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