Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my Coleman-Mach
48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step 5 to "Remove the
Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the compressor
cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did find a very nice
video on installing a Coleman-Mach aftermarket soft start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything under
the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the wiring box.
That soft start device looks *very* much like what I bought from
SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as big. So I'm confused by
why that aftermarket one doesn't include taking off the compressor
cap as part of the install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on removing
the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when I'm up top and
looking at it.
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my Coleman-Mach
48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step 5 to "Remove the
Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the compressor
cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did find a very nice
video on installing a Coleman-Mach aftermarket soft start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything under
the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the wiring box.
That soft start device looks *very* much like what I bought from
SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as big. So I'm confused by
why that aftermarket one doesn't include taking off the compressor
cap as part of the install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on removing
the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when I'm up top and
looking at it.
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my Coleman-Mach
48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step 5 to "Remove the
Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the compressor
cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did find a very
nice video on installing a Coleman-Mach aftermarket soft
start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything under
the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the wiring box.
That soft start device looks *very* much like what I bought from SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as big. So I'm confused by
why that aftermarket one doesn't include taking off the compressor
cap as part of the install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on removing
the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when I'm up top and
looking at it.
The video does not appear to match the instructions you have
provided a link to. I don't believe they are for the same
units.
Now your concern with the "compressor cap" removal I don't
believe is anything. It is just probably a plastic shroud of
sorts covering and protecting the hot connections.
In the 1976E136 instructions you linked to you take it off
because the black coming from the compressor in effect gets
eliminated.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help you
from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just looking at
the wrong instructions.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my Coleman-Mach
48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step 5 to "Remove the
Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the compressor
cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did find a very
nice video on installing a Coleman-Mach aftermarket soft
start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything under
the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the wiring box.
That soft start device looks *very* much like what I bought from
SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as big. So I'm confused by
why that aftermarket one doesn't include taking off the compressor
cap as part of the install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on removing
the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when I'm up top and
looking at it.
The video does not appear to match the instructions you have
provided a link to. I don't believe they are for the same
units.
Yes, that's correct. Sorry I was not more clear that they were
different units, though similar in many ways. I was mostly
curious why no need to get under the compressor cap for the type
in the video, but probbaly not essential I understand that.
Perhaps it was a different type of AC, though it was the same top
level ID (i.e., 48000 series).
Now your concern with the "compressor cap" removal I don't
believe is anything. It is just probably a plastic shroud of
sorts covering and protecting the hot connections.
Sounds good. I'll expect it to be clear how to proceed when I'm
on top of it. If not, I'll report back. :)
In the 1976E136 instructions you linked to you take it off
because the black coming from the compressor in effect gets
eliminated.
Yep, that's consistent with my paltry understanding.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help you
from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just looking at
the wrong instructions.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Pretty sure I have the
right instructions, I did confirm my AC is 1974E136 from the
schematic in the wiring box. As above, will report back with an
update, though it may be next week before I find time to work on
it.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my Coleman-Mach
48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step 5 to "Remove the
Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the compressor
cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did find a very
nice video on installing a Coleman-Mach aftermarket soft
start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything under
the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the wiring box.
That soft start device looks *very* much like what I bought from
SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as big. So I'm confused by
why that aftermarket one doesn't include taking off the compressor
cap as part of the install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on removing
the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when I'm up top and
looking at it.
The video does not appear to match the instructions you have
provided a link to. I don't believe they are for the same
units.
Yes, that's correct. Sorry I was not more clear that they were
different units, though similar in many ways. I was mostly
curious why no need to get under the compressor cap for the type
in the video, but probbaly not essential I understand that.
Perhaps it was a different type of AC, though it was the same top
level ID (i.e., 48000 series).
Now your concern with the "compressor cap" removal I don't
believe is anything. It is just probably a plastic shroud of
sorts covering and protecting the hot connections.
Sounds good. I'll expect it to be clear how to proceed when I'm
on top of it. If not, I'll report back. :)
In the 1976E136 instructions you linked to you take it off
because the black coming from the compressor in effect gets
eliminated.
Yep, that's consistent with my paltry understanding.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help you
from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just looking at
the wrong instructions.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Pretty sure I have the
right instructions, I did confirm my AC is 1974E136 from the
schematic in the wiring box. As above, will report back with an
update, though it may be next week before I find time to work on
it.
On 8/26/2024 8:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my
Coleman-Mach 48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step
5 to "Remove the Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the
compressor cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did
find a very nice video on installing a Coleman-Mach
aftermarket soft start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything
under the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the
wiring box. That soft start device looks *very* much like
what I bought from SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as
big. So I'm confused by why that aftermarket one doesn't
include taking off the compressor cap as part of the
install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on
removing the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when
I'm up top and looking at it.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help
you from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just
looking at the wrong instructions.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Pretty sure I have
the right instructions, I did confirm my AC is 1974E136 from
the schematic in the wiring box. As above, will report back
with an update, though it may be next week before I find time
to work on it.
Good. You do have the right instructions, so when you take the
shroud off the insides will look like your instruction diagram.
There are a whole bunch of videos showing people doing it, and
many will be different because of the different 1976 versions.
But since you have got the right 1976 instructions, it should
be straight forward. Watch a couple others do it and maybe
even find one doing your 1976e136. Either way, once the shroud
is off you'll get done!
Ted Heise <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
Now your concern with the "compressor cap" removal I don't
believe is anything. It is just probably a plastic shroud of
sorts covering and protecting the hot connections.
Sounds good. I'll expect it to be clear how to proceed when
I'm on top of it. If not, I'll report back. :)
In the 1976E136 instructions you linked to you take it off
because the black coming from the compressor in effect gets
eliminated.
Yep, that's consistent with my paltry understanding.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help
you from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just
looking at the wrong instructions.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Pretty sure I have
the right instructions, I did confirm my AC is 1974E136 from
the schematic in the wiring box. As above, will report back
with an update, though it may be next week before I find time
to work on it.
Keep this up and you will be a qualified RV repair technician
in no time.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:32:49 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 8:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my
Coleman-Mach 48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step
5 to "Remove the Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
I searched the web for any guidance on removing the
compressor cap, but came up empty. On the other hand, I did
find a very nice video on installing a Coleman-Mach
aftermarket soft start...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixXtwHBsmjk
This was very helpful, but did not include doing anything
under the compressor cap--all connecting was done in the
wiring box. That soft start device looks *very* much like
what I bought from SoftStartRV, though it is almost twice as
big. So I'm confused by why that aftermarket one doesn't
include taking off the compressor cap as part of the
install. Any thoughts?
At the least, it would be great to hear any insights on
removing the compressor cap. Maybe it'll be obvious when
I'm up top and looking at it.
Okay, I found more videos that do appear to be for the correct AC,
and none of them show removing the compressor cap. I asked
SoftStartRV tech support if I couldn't just splice into the black
wire without taking off the cap. They responded that they used to
instruct as such, but a few years ago went to the swap of
connecting to top of compressor because it doesn't involve cutting
any original AC wiring and (presumably) may not void the warranty.
Confirm that you have the right 1976 number and we'll help
you from there if you need it. Hopefully, you're just
looking at the wrong instructions.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Pretty sure I have
the right instructions, I did confirm my AC is 1974E136 from
the schematic in the wiring box. As above, will report back
with an update, though it may be next week before I find time
to work on it.
Good. You do have the right instructions, so when you take the
shroud off the insides will look like your instruction diagram.
There are a whole bunch of videos showing people doing it, and
many will be different because of the different 1976 versions.
But since you have got the right 1976 instructions, it should
be straight forward. Watch a couple others do it and maybe
even find one doing your 1976e136. Either way, once the shroud
is off you'll get done!
Think I have a pretty good understanding now of what's needed, and
will give it a go later this week. Thanks again for the help!
On 9/3/2024 11:29 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:32:49 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 8:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 19:48:21 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/26/2024 3:18 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the SoftStart device arrived last week, and I've been
studying up on how to proceeed with the install on my
Coleman-Mach 48000 series AC. The instructions say at Step
5 to "Remove the Compressor Cap"...
https://www.softstartrv.com/coleman-mach-1976e136/
Okay, I found more videos that do appear to be for the correct
AC, and none of them show removing the compressor cap. I
asked SoftStartRV tech support if I couldn't just splice into
the black wire without taking off the cap. They responded
that they used to instruct as such, but a few years ago went
to the swap of connecting to top of compressor because it
doesn't involve cutting any original AC wiring and
(presumably) may not void the warranty.
Think I have a pretty good understanding now of what's needed,
and will give it a go later this week. Thanks again for the
help!
I still think this "cap" is going to be nothing when you get up
there. I would much rather crimp the wire with the proper
connection and apply it to a post rather than joining two wires
together any day.
On 9/7/2024 12:55 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the install went smoothly, and the AC starts and runs on the
Westinghouse iGen 2550. Yay!
As you predicted, removing the cap was no big deal. Pics...
https://panix.com/~theise/start.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/cap.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/done.jpg
Thanks again for the help, all!
Excellent! Nice job! Research, ask questions, have a plan, and git 'er done! Congrats on having the confidence to attempt it. Lots of people don't. You did, and it all works! <clink>
Okay, the install went smoothly, and the AC starts and runs on the Westinghouse iGen 2550. Yay!
As you predicted, removing the cap was no big deal. Pics...
https://panix.com/~theise/start.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/cap.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/done.jpg
Thanks again for the help, all!
On 9/7/2024 1:25 PM, sticks wrote:
On 9/7/2024 12:55 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the install went smoothly, and the AC starts and runs on the
Westinghouse iGen 2550. Yay!
As you predicted, removing the cap was no big deal. Pics...
https://panix.com/~theise/start.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/cap.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/done.jpg
Thanks again for the help, all!
Excellent! Nice job! Research, ask questions, have a plan,
and git 'er done! Congrats on having the confidence to
attempt it. Lots of people don't. You did, and it all works!
<clink>
The best way to learn is by doing. Sometimes failure comes with
that but ask Elon Musk if he learns anything through failures.
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:00:17 -0500,
George Anthony <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/7/2024 1:25 PM, sticks wrote:
On 9/7/2024 12:55 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the install went smoothly, and the AC starts and runs on the
Westinghouse iGen 2550. Yay!
As you predicted, removing the cap was no big deal. Pics...
https://panix.com/~theise/start.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/cap.jpg
https://panix.com/~theise/done.jpg
Thanks again for the help, all!
Excellent! Nice job! Research, ask questions, have a plan,
and git 'er done! Congrats on having the confidence to
attempt it. Lots of people don't. You did, and it all works!
<clink>
Thanks!
The best way to learn is by doing. Sometimes failure comes with
that but ask Elon Musk if he learns anything through failures.
Hence my favorite saying: Good judgement comes from experience,
and experience comes from bad judgement.
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost all winter
long.
On 9/7/2024 12:55 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, the install went smoothly, and the AC starts and runs
on the Westinghouse iGen 2550. Yay!
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost all
winter long.
On 9/8/2024 11:58 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost
all winter long.
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up
in UP Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior.
It's still going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't
over yet. 8-)
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:10:35 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/8/2024 11:58 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost
all winter long.
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up
in UP Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior.
It's still going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't
over yet. 8-)
Good point.
We're headed to the Ozarks first week of October. Thinking to
flatspot a night or two, but not sure any AC will be needed.
We'll see.
By the way, is flatspotting a subset of boondocking? For example,
Walmart parking lots might be boondocking but not flatspotting?
<shrug>
On 9/8/2024 1:24 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:10:35 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/8/2024 11:58 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost
all winter long.
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up
in UP Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior.
It's still going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't
over yet. 8-)
Good point.
We're headed to the Ozarks first week of October. Thinking to
flatspot a night or two, but not sure any AC will be needed.
We'll see.
By the way, is flatspotting a subset of boondocking? For example,
Walmart parking lots might be boondocking but not flatspotting?
<shrug>
I actually never heard the term flatspotting used for camping or RV'ing
until Bill referred to it. Boondocking to me is when you are staying somewhere that has no hookups at all. This could be either in an RV, or even just tenting it. Using Walmart parking lots to me is neither. I
call it overnight parking. ;-)
On 9/8/2024 11:58 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost all winter
long.
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up in UP Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior. It's still
going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't over yet. 8-)
On 9/8/2024 1:10 PM, sticks wrote:
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up in UP
Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior. It's still
going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't over yet. 8-)
We were there two Septembers ago. Some of the prettiest colors I've
seen anywhere... and I've been everywhere in this country. Did the
Macinaw (nac) bridge and island. Not much for me as I wasn't on my
honeymoon. I don't know what the attraction is.
On 9/8/2024 1:24 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 13:10:35 -0500,
sticks <[email protected]> wrote:
On 9/8/2024 11:58 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 9/7/2024 3:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Got AC for boondocking ready just in time for winter!
Snow bird down here to south Texas, you will need it almost
all winter long.
We're taking off in the morning and going to "The Porkies" up
in UP Michigan. Right on the southern shores of Lake Superior.
It's still going to be in the low 80's this week. It ain't
over yet. 8-)
Good point.
We're headed to the Ozarks first week of October. Thinking to
flatspot a night or two, but not sure any AC will be needed.
We'll see.
By the way, is flatspotting a subset of boondocking? For example,
Walmart parking lots might be boondocking but not flatspotting?
<shrug>
I actually never heard the term flatspotting used for camping or
RV'ing until Bill referred to it. Boondocking to me is when you are staying somewhere that has no hookups at all. This could be either in
an RV, or even just tenting it. Using Walmart parking lots to me is neither. I call it overnight parking. ;-)
sticks wrote:
On 9/8/2024 1:24 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
By the way, is flatspotting a subset of boondocking? For
example, Walmart parking lots might be boondocking but not
flatspotting? <shrug>
I actually never heard the term flatspotting used for camping
or RV'ing until Bill referred to it. Boondocking to me is
when you are staying somewhere that has no hookups at all.
This could be either in an RV, or even just tenting it.
Using Walmart parking lots to me is neither. I call it
overnight parking. ;-)
Boondocks:
US, informal : a remote, thinly settled rural area
Merriam-Webster
an area far away from cities or towns
Oxford
1. Wild and dense brush; jungle.
2. Rural country; the backwoods.
American Heritage
A jungle or a wild, heavily wooded area; wilderness.
Webster's New World
any area in the country that is quiet, has few people living in
it, and is a long way away from a town or city:
Cambridge
If you say that someone lives in the boondocks, you mean that
they live a long way from any large cities.
Collins
boondocking has nothing to do with "no hookups". It has to do
with "remote" and "thinly settled". The term has been
contaminated with "no hookups" by RVers who want to sound cool,
tough, and adventurous when they don't have electricity and
water on a post wherever they happen to be - even a Walmart. I
refuse to accept that definition.
I first coined "flatspotting" to describe dispersed camping in
the N GA mountains when I was looking for a spot to park that
would require no - or minimal leveling. I even had levels on my
door and dash so that I could bobble around until I found the
flattest spot.
"no hookups" camping is rightly called "dry camping", and is
distinct from either boondocking or flatspotting.
And overnighting in a Walmart parking lot is neither
boondocking nor flatspotting - it's overnighting in a Walmart
parking lot. However comma if you should happen to find an
abandoned Walmart out in the boondocks, you have my permission
to use "flatspotting" - if there is/are flora/floras growing
out of the cracks. See? I'm willing to compromise. More or
less.
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