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  • Variable tonic in ancient music

    From ChristianAMR@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 3 00:31:26 2023
    The older style of music where a variable tonic was used is being reffered to in this article . The point if a drone was used or not ( or could be used ) is what intrigues me , but I can not find more info about this point . Note : " open for debate "

    https://www.tosslevy.nl/tanpura/tanpura-history/tanpura-history-2/

    " Historically, the function of the tanpura as a drone instrument in modern Indian chamber music is a comparatively recent development, dating from about the early 16th century (the latter part of Akbars reign). In the Natyashastra, the great work on
    music and theatre written about 1500 years ago by Bharata; he gives no mention of a drone being used in either of the two music forms from that time, namely the grama-murchana and the jati systems. This, according to B.C.Deva, the renowned Indian scholar,
    was due to the fact that the older style of music employed a variable tonic, which suggests that a steady drone could not have been used (although this is open to debate). "

    Keywords : Shifting tonic , murchana , graha bheda

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  • From ChristianAMR@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 3 13:42:22 2023
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZUN6oAVMXM

    Some of my questions were adressed in this lecture by Bharat Gupt .

    __ Interaction between Greek tetrachords and Arabic maqams ( makams ) . Some kind of back and forth . --- 1:02:40

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QSDigJxhc2vigJ0gS2FraXJkZ@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 15 17:24:12 2023
    Old texts also discuss ensembles (vrindas) in this type of Indian music of 15 - 20 people, instrumentalists or a mix. I have a hunch that older indian music may have had a bit more than today's khayal that it gave birth to (especially beyond the
    cacophonium harmonium).

    I've also always wondered the history of the tanpura - thanks for this resource.


    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 3:31:27 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    The older style of music where a variable tonic was used is being reffered to in this article . The point if a drone was used or not ( or could be used ) is what intrigues me , but I can not find more info about this point . Note : " open for debate "

    https://www.tosslevy.nl/tanpura/tanpura-history/tanpura-history-2/

    " Historically, the function of the tanpura as a drone instrument in modern Indian chamber music is a comparatively recent development, dating from about the early 16th century (the latter part of Akbars reign). In the Natyashastra, the great work on
    music and theatre written about 1500 years ago by Bharata; he gives no mention of a drone being used in either of the two music forms from that time, namely the grama-murchana and the jati systems. This, according to B.C.Deva, the renowned Indian scholar,
    was due to the fact that the older style of music employed a variable tonic, which suggests that a steady drone could not have been used (although this is open to debate). "

    Keywords : Shifting tonic , murchana , graha bheda

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  • From ChristianAMR@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 04:48:22 2023
    askan... 2023 :
    Old texts also discuss ensembles (vrindas) in this type of Indian music of 15 - 20 people, instrumentalists or a mix. I have a hunch that older indian music may have had a bit more than today's khayal that it gave birth to (especially beyond the
    cacophonium harmonium).

    I've also always wondered the history of the tanpura - thanks for this resource. "

    My pleasure !

    I didn´t know that " vrinda " was also used to denote music ensembles .

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