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From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 08:34:04 2023

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/war-ludwig-van-beethoven-gar-kein-beethoven-brisante-gen-analyse-18765183-p4.html

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From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Wed Mar 22 10:32:50 2023

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:34:07 AM UTC-7, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/war-ludwig-van-beethoven-gar-kein-beethoven-brisante-gen-analyse-18765183-p4.html

Behind paywall.

dk

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From Chris J.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 18:58:38 2023

On 22 Mar 2023 Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/war-ludwig-
van-beethoven-gar-kein-beethoven-brisante-gen-analyse-18765183-p4.html

Behind paywall.

The scientific paper:
"Genomic analyses of hair from Ludwig van Beethoven"

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00181-1

(open access)

For the masses:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/beethoven-hair-dna-composer-death

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/health/beethoven-death-dna-hair.html

and other websites.

Chris

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From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 22 13:12:48 2023

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 10:32:53 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:34:07 AM UTC-7, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/war-ludwig-van-beethoven-gar-kein-beethoven-brisante-gen-analyse-18765183-p4.html

Behind paywall.

dk

https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rec.music.classical/c/T6Bu9HFlEjo

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From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Chris J. on Wed Mar 22 14:16:50 2023

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 11:58:38 -0700, Chris J. wrote:

On 22 Mar 2023 Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/war-ludwig- van-beethoven-gar-kein-beethoven-brisante-gen-analyse-18765183-p4.html

Behind paywall.

The scientific paper:
"Genomic analyses of hair from Ludwig van Beethoven"

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00181-1

(open access)

So Beethoven *didn't* have lead poisoning. The only Samples of
Beethoven's hair that had been previously tested is the Hiller
lock, which is that of a Jewish woman. Of 17 locks of hair only
5 were deemed authentic and the others were of different people.

Now was Beethoven Black like some professors say or is more
testing needed?

For the masses:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/beethoven-hair-dna-composer-death

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/health/beethoven-death-dna-hair.html

and other websites.

Chris

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