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  • Brahms piano concerto #1 (S. piano, K. conducting)

    From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 25 02:21:46 2022
    Used to like this very much, but haven't listened to the cd for at least ten years.
    More later.
    --
    Roland van Gaalen
    Amsterdam

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Sun Dec 25 06:42:47 2022
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:22:54 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    Is this piece over the top? Is is too long?
    I don't care! I wouldn't mind if it went on
    for several hours.

    A few pianists manage to make it interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    dk

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  • From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 25 06:22:52 2022
    Is this piece over the top? Is is too long?
    I don't care! I wouldn't mind if it went on for several hours.
    To me it seems to have the same coherence, and warmth, as a typical Bruckner symphony.
    [I'm asking for trouble now and inviting sarcastic dismissals of Bruckner or Brahms or both, I understand.]
    This concerto almost sounds like variations on a theme, this time by Brahms himself (I guess), variations that are beautifully melodic and flow naturally. I still like it very much, and this performance in particular.
    I bought the CD in 1996, and my opinion of it hasn't changed at all.
    --
    Roland van Gaalen
    Amsterdam

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  • From Roland van Gaalen@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Dec 25 07:36:28 2022
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!
    ---
    Roland van Gaalen
    Amsterdam

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Sun Dec 25 09:23:21 2022
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:36:31 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!

    Some other good performances
    I mentioned sometimes include
    Rubinstein, Malcuzynski, Freire,
    Kehrer and Katchen. These days
    even La Wang plays it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seLotiR5k

    She sounds like she is practicing
    itin front of an audience. Nice job
    if one can get it, and a recipe for
    marketing success -- practice in
    a good looking dress and call it
    art!

    I do not like the oft recommended
    versions by Backhaus, Zimermann,
    Fleisher, Gilels or Grimaud.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for
    Kempff/Konwitschny/Dresden.
    My dad like it very much. I used
    to play it at 45 rpm instead of 33,
    which made it sound just right!

    dk

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Dec 25 12:30:19 2022
    On 2022-12-25 10:23 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:36:31 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!

    Some other good performances
    I mentioned sometimes include
    Rubinstein, Malcuzynski, Freire,
    Kehrer and Katchen. These days
    even La Wang plays it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seLotiR5k

    She sounds like she is practicing
    itin front of an audience. Nice job
    if one can get it, and a recipe for
    marketing success -- practice in
    a good looking dress and call it
    art!

    I do not like the oft recommended
    versions by Backhaus, Zimermann,
    Fleisher, Gilels or Grimaud.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for
    Kempff/Konwitschny/Dresden.
    My dad like it very much. I used
    to play it at 45 rpm instead of 33,
    which made it sound just right!

    dk
    I take it that you don't like Curzon/Szell.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Dec 25 12:29:12 2022
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-12-25 10:23 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:36:31 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!

    Some other good performances
    I mentioned sometimes include
    Rubinstein, Malcuzynski, Freire,
    Kehrer and Katchen. These days
    even La Wang plays it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seLotiR5k

    She sounds like she is practicing
    itin front of an audience. Nice job
    if one can get it, and a recipe for
    marketing success -- practice in
    a good looking dress and call it
    art!

    I do not like the oft recommended
    versions by Backhaus, Zimermann,
    Fleisher, Gilels or Grimaud.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for
    Kempff/Konwitschny/Dresden.
    My dad like it very much. I used
    to play it at 45 rpm instead of 33,
    which made it sound just right!

    I take it that you don't like Curzon/Szell.

    ROTFL !!! Curse on Szell am See ?!? ;-)

    Performance from the cave age!

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Dec 25 13:37:28 2022
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 1:29:56 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:

    Not my genre. Curzon was a fraud.

    Here is incriminating evidence:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxcOCDHzkN0

    Arguably the worst Brahms PC2 on record.
    He swallowed 3 metronomes.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Dec 25 13:29:54 2022
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 1:20:01 PM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-12-25 1:29 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-12-25 10:23 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:36:31 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
    Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!

    Some other good performances
    I mentioned sometimes include
    Rubinstein, Malcuzynski, Freire,
    Kehrer and Katchen. These days
    even La Wang plays it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seLotiR5k

    She sounds like she is practicing
    itin front of an audience. Nice job
    if one can get it, and a recipe for
    marketing success -- practice in
    a good looking dress and call it
    art!

    I do not like the oft recommended
    versions by Backhaus, Zimermann,
    Fleisher, Gilels or Grimaud.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for
    Kempff/Konwitschny/Dresden.
    My dad like it very much. I used
    to play it at 45 rpm instead of 33,
    which made it sound just right!

    I take it that you don't like Curzon/Szell.

    ROTFL !!! Curse on Szell am See ?!? ;-)

    Performance from the cave age!

    Doesn't that make it HIP authentic? :-)

    Not my genre. Curzon was a fraud.

    dk

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Dec 25 14:19:56 2022
    On 2022-12-25 1:29 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 11:30:24 AM UTC-8, Graham wrote:
    On 2022-12-25 10:23 a.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 7:36:31 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote: >>>> Dan Koren wrote:
    [...]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-v8nO-OAZQ

    Awesome!

    Some other good performances
    I mentioned sometimes include
    Rubinstein, Malcuzynski, Freire,
    Kehrer and Katchen. These days
    even La Wang plays it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-seLotiR5k

    She sounds like she is practicing
    itin front of an audience. Nice job
    if one can get it, and a recipe for
    marketing success -- practice in
    a good looking dress and call it
    art!

    I do not like the oft recommended
    versions by Backhaus, Zimermann,
    Fleisher, Gilels or Grimaud.

    I have a soft spot in my heart for
    Kempff/Konwitschny/Dresden.
    My dad like it very much. I used
    to play it at 45 rpm instead of 33,
    which made it sound just right!

    I take it that you don't like Curzon/Szell.

    ROTFL !!! Curse on Szell am See ?!? ;-)

    Performance from the cave age!

    dk
    Doesn't that make it HIP authentic? :-)

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