I am morally opposed to hunting.
Thanks!
The music is hunt-laundering.
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 11:09:34 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks!
I've just read The Bear for the first time, and the
third movement reminded me of this passage
Old Ben’s scent drifted forward again along the
streaming blackness of air, but Sam’s eyes were
probably open again on that profound look which
saw further than them or the hut, further than the
death of a bear and the dying of a dog. Then they
went on, toward the long wailing of the horn and
the shots which seemed each to linger intact
somewhere in the thick streaming air until the
next spaced report joined and blended with it, to
the lighted house, the bright streaming windows,
the quiet faces as Boon entered, bloody and quite
calm, carrying the bundled coat. He laid Lion, blood
coat and all, on his stale sheetless pallet bed which
not even Ash, as deft in the house as a woman, could
ever make smooth.
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 4:46:43 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 11:09:34 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks!
I've just read The Bear for the first time, and the
third movement reminded me of this passage
Old Ben’s scent drifted forward again along theI cannot stand Faulkner.
streaming blackness of air, but Sam’s eyes were
probably open again on that profound look which
saw further than them or the hut, further than the
death of a bear and the dying of a dog. Then they
went on, toward the long wailing of the horn and
the shots which seemed each to linger intact
somewhere in the thick streaming air until the
next spaced report joined and blended with it, to
the lighted house, the bright streaming windows,
the quiet faces as Boon entered, bloody and quite
calm, carrying the bundled coat. He laid Lion, blood
coat and all, on his stale sheetless pallet bed which
not even Ash, as deft in the house as a woman, could
ever make smooth.
dk
By the way, in the third movement there's something I've always loved. Just when you think you can't possibly have a minute more of this wretched hunt music, Mozart digs something out which seems totally unexpected -- at 26:46 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hgaxI3JRgg&ab_channel=Am4d3usM0z4rt
Listening to it just now, it seem quite an operatic thing to do, I'm sure he does something like it somewhere in one of the operas.
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 5:24:10 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
Don't expect DK to understand what you'reHowever my skull is not filled with
talking about when you say 'hunt music',
he's totally ignorant on all counts.
holey Gouda like yours.
dk
Don't expect DK to understand what you're
talking about when you say 'hunt music',
he's totally ignorant on all counts.
You really should consider stopping the relentless ethnic
stereotyping (including such weird generalizations as
Russian Piano School,
The passage you highlight in the finale is indeed redolent of the Nozze, which Mozart was composing at the same time.
Thanks!
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 3:28:33 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
I am morally opposed to hunting.You do not enjoy hunting the
composer, the conductor, or
the soloist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyoSLOlglw
dk
Thanks!
My opinion is to call it what it is and not be
cryptic about it; you're talking about Mozart's
piano concerto 22? It starts out dandy, andthen
this dour piano starts in after a minute or two.
Why? maybe he only wrote it like that because he
was forced by the conventions of the time, and a
genuinely HIP interpretation would leave out the
piano and play it like the symphony it wants to
be.
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:24:30 AM UTC+2, Pluted Pup wrote:
My opinion is to call it what it is and not be
cryptic about it; you're talking about Mozart's
piano concerto 22? It starts out dandy, andthen
this dour piano starts in after a minute or two.
Why? maybe he only wrote it like that because he
was forced by the conventions of the time, and a
genuinely HIP interpretation would leave out the
piano and play it like the symphony it wants to
be.
Really? Dour? It's probably my favorite
WAM concerto, I think it's a majestic
piece. It's possibly his most 'classical'
concerto of the mature POCs, together
with the Bflat 595. No Angst or Empfindsamkeit.
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 3:33:07 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 3:28:33 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
I am morally opposed to hunting.
You do not enjoy hunting the
composer, the conductor, or
the soloist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyoSLOlglw
https://tomlehrersongs.com/
Here you go... all songs and albums available
for free downloads... as per Tom Lehrer...
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:24:30 AM UTC+2, Pluted Pup wrote:
My opinion is to call it what it is and not beReally? Dour? It's probably my favorite WAM concerto, I think it's a majestic piece. It's possibly his most 'classical' concerto of the mature POCs, together with the Bflat 595. No Angst or Empfindsamkeit.
cryptic about it; you're talking about Mozart's
piano concerto 22? It starts out dandy, andthen
this dour piano starts in after a minute or two.
Why? maybe he only wrote it like that because he
was forced by the conventions of the time, and a
genuinely HIP interpretation would leave out the
piano and play it like the symphony it wants to
be.
It doesn't want to be a symphony. Listen to Mozart's symphonies of the time and you'll find they are quite different.
As Mozart was basically inventing/expanding the genre in a huge way it is difficult so tell what is "classical"; they all are but they are the exemplary pieces of what we mean with the term, so it's not very informative ;)
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:24:30 AM UTC+2, Pluted Pup wrote:
My opinion is to call it what it is and not be
cryptic about it; you're talking about Mozart's
piano concerto 22? It starts out dandy, andthen
this dour piano starts in after a minute or two.
Why? maybe he only wrote it like that because he
was forced by the conventions of the time, and a
genuinely HIP interpretation would leave out the
piano and play it like the symphony it wants to
be.
Really? Dour? It's probably my favorite WAM concerto, I think it's a majestic piece. It's possibly his most 'classical' concerto of the mature POCs, together with the Bflat 595. No Angst or Empfindsamkeit.
It doesn't want to be a symphony. Listen to Mozart's symphonies of the time and you'll find they are quite different.
On 10/2/22 11:47 PM, Herman wrote:
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:24:30 AM UTC+2, Pluted Pup wrote:
My opinion is to call it what it is and not be
cryptic about it; you're talking about Mozart's
piano concerto 22? It starts out dandy, andthen
this dour piano starts in after a minute or two.
Why? maybe he only wrote it like that because he
was forced by the conventions of the time, and a
genuinely HIP interpretation would leave out the
piano and play it like the symphony it wants to
be.
Really? Dour? It's probably my favorite WAM concerto, I think it's a majestic piece. It's possibly his most 'classical' concerto of the mature POCs, together with the Bflat 595. No Angst or Empfindsamkeit.Yeah, I didn't understand that comment either. As someone said, the slow passage in the Finale could be a trial (but what a trial!) run for the Count's 'Contessa, perdono'(one of the most sublime moments in all of music). Favorite? Well, right up there, for sure, but K459 and K503 are pretty good as well, at least to my ears. And no, it doesn't want to be
It doesn't want to be a symphony. Listen to Mozart's symphonies of the time and you'll find they are quite different.
a symphony.
Bob Harper
It seems that once you get the connection to Figaro in your head, it changes your perception. The whole thing now seems like a wordless opera buffa to me.
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