On 9/30/2022 12:07 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 12:09:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
On 9/29/2022 2:36 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
On Sep 28, 2022, Herman wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):
On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 3:24:43 AM UTC+2, Frank Berger wrote: >>>>>
More psychology: I think you are a fruit cake.
You would have to either remigrate to the Fifties for
this to land succesfully, or go to a place (Russia or
Hungary?) where antisemitism blossoms along with
homophobia.
Putin outlawed antisemitism, do you agree with this
or disagree?
I don't know much about current antisemitism in Hungary,
but government to government, Hungary is one of Israel's
closest allies Europe.
Evidence?
Wikipedia. You can't get better than that.
That's something. According to Wikipedia the Nazis murdered
about 544,000 Hungarian Jews, with the cooperation of the
Hungarian government. There are somewhere around 50,000-
100,000 Jews living in Hungary today, as far as I can tell.
Anti-semitism or lack thereof is far more than a matter
between governments.
Who said it wasn't.
Anti-Semitism is alive and thriving
in Hungary,
as it is everywhere.
government or not. It is deeply embedded in
the local culture, just as it is in Russian and other countries
in the vicinity. To put it bluntly, these are cultures that have
near zero tolerance for social, ethnic or religious diversity.
I think "near zero" is a bit of an exaggeration, but OK.
There are indeed Jews who live there, accepting calculated
risks because of various reasons -- mixed marriages or other
family ties, unmovable businesses or assets, or even blind
loyalty to the regimes or to its principles (I had someone like
this in my 2nd degree family).
Also see https://jewishjournal.com/culture/arts/178588/
Interesting. His ideas about war and economics are wrong, but no matter. Not sure if I said this here (if I have Herman will inform us). Antisemitism is manifested in different ways. At one time everyone said the Jews killed Jesus. Some still believe
but it's not really mainstream antisemitism any more. Then the Jews used the blood of Christian children to make matzah, Then the Jews control the banks, and more. All of these are more or less passé. The current mainstream manifestation is anti-
Zionism. Though the anti-Zionism and antisemitism could theoretically by different, in practice the antisemites hate Israel because it is the collective Jew. Not because they abuse Palestinians. Few really believe in the Palestinian cause/
I head somewhere that antisemitism started when Abraham came to town. Before him, the rock-worshippers got along fine with the tree-worshippers. Abraham came along and said you're both wrong. Not only that, but you are committing a grave sin by not
worshipping the one true God. No wonder he wasn't popular.
dk
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