• The Wimpiest Records Ever

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 03:41:27 2025
    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50s?

    The 2 big Fleetwoods hits would be in the running. Maybe some Johnny
    Mathis like "Misty."

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 04:11:03 2025
    Some Others

    Tonight You Belong To Me - Patience & Prudence
    Hey Paula - Paul & Paul
    Puppy Love - Paul Anka / Donny Osmond
    Cherish - Association
    Mr. Lonely - Bobby Vinton
    O Dio Mio - Annette
    My Wish Came True - Elvis
    It Hurts Me - Elvis
    All Out of Love - Air Supply
    Vincent = Don McLean
    Can't Smile Without You - Barry Manilow
    Muskrat Love - Captain & Tennille
    Michelle - Beatles
    Here, There & Everywhere - Beatles
    Lady Jane - Rolling Stones
    You're The Inspiration - Chicago
    Hello - Lionel Richie

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 04:30:01 2025
    I'm Not Lisa - Jesse Colter
    Three Times A Lady - Commodores
    Rubber Ball - Bobby Vee
    Cindy's Birthday - Johnny Crawford

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 04:17:33 2025
    I Just called to Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder
    If You Leave Me Now - Chicago
    If - Bread
    Longer - Dan Fogelberg
    Scarborough Fair - Simon & Garfunkel
    El Condor Pasa - Simon & Garfunkel
    Silly Love Songs - McCartney
    You Light Up My Life - Debby Boone
    Sailing - Christopher Cross
    The Long And Winding Road - Beatles
    Jean - Oliver

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jun 24 06:51:11 2025
    On 6/23/2025 11:41 PM, Bruce wrote:
    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50s?

    The 2 big Fleetwoods hits would be in the running. Maybe some Johnny
    Mathis like "Misty."
    --------
    I would certainly say that the lyric "I'm as helpless as a kitten up a
    tree" is probably the wimpiest *lyric* of all time. I've always hated
    that song, probably for that reason. Hate it even more by the Vibrations.

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jun 24 06:48:29 2025
    On 6/24/2025 12:30 AM, Bruce wrote:

    Cindy's Birthday - Johnny Crawford

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    I used to refer to this as "the worst record ever made" when I was young
    and naive.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jun 24 13:05:55 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 3:41:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50's

    A few....

    "Put Your Head On My Shoulder" - Paul Anka
    "Bobby Sox To Stockings" - Frankie Avalon
    "Seven Little Girls Sittin' In The Back Seat" - Paul Evans
    "Rainbow" - Russ Hamilton
    "My Special Angel" - Bobby Helms
    "Goodbye Jimmy Goodbye" - Kathy Linden
    "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands" - Laurie London
    "Susie Darlin'" - Robin Luke
    "Tonight You Belong To Me" - Patience & Prudence
    "Kookie Kookie Lend Me Your Comb" - Connie Stevens/Edd Byrnes
    "Pink Shoelaces" - Dodie Stevens
    "Primrose Lane" - Jerry Wallace

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Dean on Tue Jun 24 12:53:16 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 5:54:49 +0000, Dean wrote:

    I've hated this whiny exercise in self-pity since I first heard it in
    1982. To think, Motown foisted that thing on us!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txGhgfo6Iew&ab_channel=TopPop

    This woman Charlene moved to the UK at one stage in the 80's and lived
    near my old hunting ground in the rough tough East End

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Jun 24 15:13:59 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:05:55 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 3:41:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under
    consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50's

    A few....

    "Put Your Head On My Shoulder" - Paul Anka
    "Bobby Sox To Stockings" - Frankie Avalon
    "Seven Little Girls Sittin' In The Back Seat" - Paul Evans
    "Rainbow" - Russ Hamilton
    "My Special Angel" - Bobby Helms
    "Goodbye Jimmy Goodbye" - Kathy Linden
    "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands" - Laurie London
    "Susie Darlin'" - Robin Luke
    "Tonight You Belong To Me" - Patience & Prudence
    "Kookie Kookie Lend Me Your Comb" - Connie Stevens/Edd Byrnes
    "Pink Shoelaces" - Dodie Stevens
    "Primrose Lane" - Jerry Wallace

    I guess we do have a different idea if what "wimpy" means. "Primrose
    Lane" is now wimpy at all IMO. It's just a Darin/Sinatra type song in
    that late 50s type pop/swing style. "Kookie Kookie" is much more novelty
    than wimpy. Nothing wrong with "Pink Shoe Laces." She dings it rather dynamically rather than wimpy, like "16 Reasons" by Connie Stevens.

    Still waiting to hear what makes "True Love Ways" not wimpy and "Susie
    Darlin'" wimpy.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jun 24 17:35:41 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:13:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:05:55 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 3:41:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under
    consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50's

    A few....

    "Put Your Head On My Shoulder" - Paul Anka
    "Bobby Sox To Stockings" - Frankie Avalon
    "Seven Little Girls Sittin' In The Back Seat" - Paul Evans
    "Rainbow" - Russ Hamilton
    "My Special Angel" - Bobby Helms
    "Goodbye Jimmy Goodbye" - Kathy Linden
    "He's Got The Whole World In His Hands" - Laurie London
    "Susie Darlin'" - Robin Luke
    "Tonight You Belong To Me" - Patience & Prudence
    "Kookie Kookie Lend Me Your Comb" - Connie Stevens/Edd Byrnes
    "Pink Shoelaces" - Dodie Stevens
    "Primrose Lane" - Jerry Wallace

    I guess we do have a different idea if what "wimpy" means. "Primrose
    Lane" is now wimpy at all IMO. It's just a Darin/Sinatra type song in
    that late 50s type pop/swing style. "Kookie Kookie" is much more novelty
    than wimpy. Nothing wrong with "Pink Shoe Laces." She dings it rather dynamically rather than wimpy, like "16 Reasons" by Connie Stevens.

    Oxford lists wimpy as "weak and feeble". Exactly what I hear in all the
    above

    Still waiting to hear what makes "True Love Ways" not wimpy and "Susie Darlin'" wimpy.

    Luke personifies the definition as above. On the Holly the backing fits
    the song as sounds good to me

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to DianeE on Tue Jun 24 13:42:58 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:48:29 -0400, DianeE <[email protected]> wrote:

    I used to refer to this as "the worst record ever made"...

    For me, it was that "bouncy-bouncy" record" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kinBHw-zkPQ (with lyrics)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 18:02:36 2025
    Jerry Wallace and Dodie Stevens don't sing those records weak or feeble
    at all. Buddy Holly sounds much more weak and feeble on things like
    "True Love Ways" and "Heartbeat."

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 14:15:24 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:05:55 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
    wrote:
    What would you pick as the wimpiest hit record of the 50's

    "Seven Little Girls Sittin' In The Back Seat" - Paul Evans

    pleasant enough novelty

    "Susie Darlin'" - Robin Luke
    "Kookie Kookie Lend Me Your Comb" - Connie Stevens/Edd Byrnes
    "Pink Shoelaces" - Dodie Stevens

    I for one dig these groovy tunes, man, especially Susie Darlin'

    THE worst major or semi-major artists from the1950s for me are the 95%
    boring Roy Hamilton and the coarse raspy sound of The Olympics - raspy
    can be okay in r&b/r'n'r, but not Walter Ward on some sides.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jun 24 14:29:31 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:02:36 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    Buddy Holly sounds much more weak and feeble on things like
    "True Love Ways" and "Heartbeat."

    Gee, don't opinions differ somewhat around here.
    "Heartbeat" is definitely fine, but "True Love Ways" is truly
    horrible.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Sat Jun 28 19:04:39 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:29:31 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:02:36 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    Buddy Holly sounds much more weak and feeble on things like
    "True Love Ways" and "Heartbeat."

    Gee, don't opinions differ somewhat around here.
    "Heartbeat" is definitely fine, but "True Love Ways" is truly
    horrible.

    Ridiculous!

    "True Love Ways" is one of the best recordings to come from that last
    session at the Coral Studios certainly miles better than the dull and
    boring "Moondreams" from the same session.

    And of course easily up there with that sessions most famous
    recordings---"It Doesn't Matter Anymore" and "Raining In My Heart"

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 28 19:08:58 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 3:41:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    When I think of the wimpiest records ever this one has to be under consideration for the title.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkgVvmca1k

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 28 19:47:59 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:13:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Still waiting to hear what makes "True Love Ways" not wimpy and "Susie Darlin'" wimpy.

    Simple!

    The first is a good stronger song by a decent singer whereas "Susie
    Darlin'" is a pretty weak song by a weak singer (the better singer
    Tommy Roe does what he can with it later but an inherently weak song has
    a habit of staying a weak song)

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jun 28 19:20:40 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:02:36 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Jerry Wallace and Dodie Stevens don't sing those records weak or feeble
    at all. Buddy Holly sounds much more weak and feeble on things like
    "True Love Ways" and "Heartbeat."

    I think we must be listening to different recordings.

    Jerry Wallace's "Primrose Lane" is a weak and watery affair to these
    ears and the Dodie Stevens thing is just shrill unlistenable junk

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 01:10:42 2025
    On Jun 28, 2025 at 2:04:39 PM CDT, "Roger" <Roger> wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:29:31 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:02:36 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    Buddy Holly sounds much more weak and feeble on things like
    "True Love Ways" and "Heartbeat."

    Gee, don't opinions differ somewhat around here.
    "Heartbeat" is definitely fine, but "True Love Ways" is truly
    horrible.

    Ridiculous!

    "True Love Ways" is one of the best recordings to come from that last
    session at the Coral Studios certainly miles better than the dull and
    boring "Moondreams" from the same session.

    And of course easily up there with that sessions most famous
    recordings---"It Doesn't Matter Anymore" and "Raining In My Heart"

    Amen.

    --md

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