• TEN FAVE UNRELEASED TRACKS FROM....1952

    From Roger@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 06:09:56 2024
    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today………from 1952

    WOODROW ADAMS – THE LAST TIME
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tI3SKPN4bY

    From a session at 706 Union Ave (to be sent to Chess in Chicago) on May
    24 1952 came the insistent blues
    “The Last Time” by Woodrow Adams (vcl.gtr) aided and abetted by
    Sylvester Hayes (hca) Joe Martin (dms)
    other personnel unknown

    Chess declined a release therefore the track went unreleased for decades
    until Krazy Kat here in UK added
    it to their album “Memphis Blues (Unissued Titles From The 50’s) in 1985

    THE DOMINOES – I AIN’T GONNA CRY FOR YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4t_8WT4E0s

    “I Ain’t Gonna Cry For You” (with outfront vocals by Billy Ward & Dave McNeil) came from the same King
    session that gave us the Clyde classics “I’d Be Satisfied” and “The Bells”. Unlike those two “I Ain’t Gonna Cry For You” was shelved and went unreleased

    It was 1977 before “I Ain’t Gonna Cry For You” saw light of day when it was included on the King album
    “The Dominoes Featuring Clyde McPhatter – 18 Hits Vol. 2”

    THE FOUR BUDDIES – NOTHIN’ SHAKIN’ BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgMZ3QDP7E

    Featuring Leon “Larry” Harrison (lead) Gregory Carroll (tenor) Bert
    Palmer (baritone) Tommy Smith (bass)
    “Nothin’ Shakin’ Baby” emanates from a New York City session for Savoy on April 10 1952 that produced
    “Story Blues”,”You’re Part Of Me” and “What’s The Matter With Me” all of
    which saw regular Savoy
    releases

    It was 1989 before “Nothin’ Shakin’ Baby” saw release---when it was included on the comprehensive
    Marv Goldberg produced and annotated “The Four Buddies-Complete On
    Savoy” collection

    H-BOMB FERGUSON – WORK FOR MY BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmIjs6gQBo

    July 18 1952 saw H-Bomb in the studio for Savoy at the same time as
    Varetta Dillard whence comes the
    torment of “Tortured Love” (with some input from Varetta) plus said
    “Work For My Baby” (H-Bomb solo)
    plus two Varetta solos “Double Crossing Daddy” and “Them There Eyes”

    “Work For My Baby” is finally rescued from oblivion in 1986 when Savoy includes it on the LP “Life Is Hard” (that also includes some Varetta Dillard input) on Savoy Jazz SJL 1176

    HOWLIN’ WOLF – C.V WINE BLUES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX216Xrhk9M

    I have a recording date of October 1952 at 706 Union Av Memphis on this one,Chester’s ode to a particular favorite liquid refreshment.Apparently
    the recording was sent to Chess who failed to release it for whatever
    reason

    After spending a couple of decades in the shadows the song finally shows
    up thanks to the folk at Charly Records on the LP “Sam’s Blues : The
    Roots Of Rock Vol. 2” in 1976

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER – SELLIN’ MY WHISKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3IABa3_RI

    All that remains of the first item recorded at 706 Union to get a Sun
    catalog number (174) allocated to it---but apart from a few
    acetates---that’s about as far as a genuine Sun release seems to have
    gone. So since this primitive Saturday stomp doesn’t ever seem to have
    been made available to the general public I’m treating it here as “unreleased”

    Recorded at Memphis Recording Service,706 Union Av Memphis February 1952
    with Walter Horton (vcl/hca)
    Jack Kelly (vcl/pno) Joe Hill Louis (gtr/dms)

    Finally released in 1984 as part of the mammoth 9-CD Charly box set “Sun
    : The Blues Years”

    MOMS MABLEY & THE ORIOLES – YES INDEED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzI2h-Hv1nE

    In what seems to be a “spur of the moment” thing fate had famous
    comedienne Jackie “Moms” Mabley cast
    together with The Orioles to record a spirited version of the jazz oldie
    “Yes Indeed” during a session for
    Jubilee on April 1, 1952 which also produced Orioles’ recordings of "I
    Don't Want To Take A Chance,"
    "Wanted," "I'm Beginning To Think You Care For Me" and " "Don't Keep It
    To Yourself" .

    After spending several decades in the dark dank Jubilee cellars “Yes Indeed” was finally given its long
    overdue release in 1993---as part of the huge 6-CD Bear Family set of
    Orioles material “The Jubilee
    Recordings”

    BIG MAYBELLE – SO GOOD TO MY BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmeZ0TgYO8

    Signed by Okeh Records in 1952 the first thing the label did was to
    rechristen plain old Mabel Smith
    as “Big Maybelle”. The second thing was to bring her into the studio in
    New York City where her first session for the label gifted them the big
    #3 r&b hit “Gabbin’ Blues” The four song session also produced the strident “So Good To My Baby” which met a very different fate---being buried in the vaults unreleased for years

    Until 1983 in fact when it appeared for the first time on “The Okeh Sessions” a 2-LP set that appeared on
    Epic in the USA and on Charly pretty well everywhere else (this
    compilation is not to be confused with the
    later US-only “The Complete Okeh Sessions 1952-55” set in 1994 and as
    seen in the YT clip above)

    LLOYD PRICE -MAILMAN BOOGIE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02j-KwNONz8

    Recorded for Specialty March 13 1952 at J and M Studio, New Orleans
    supervised by Cosimo Matassa personnel
    Lloyd Price (vcl) Dave Bartholomew (tpt) Joe Harris (alto sx) Herb
    Hardesty (ten sx) Fats Domino (pno) Ernest McLean (gtr) Frank Fields
    (bs), Earl Palmer (dms)). Producer: Dave Bartholomew the rockin’
    “Mailman Boogie” originates from the same session that produced the huge r&b hit “Lawdy Miss Clawdy” and its flipside “Mailman Blues” (not to be confused with the different “Mailman Boogie” under consideration here)

    Never released at the time and consigned to the Specialty vault it was
    1986 before “Mailman Boogie” was
    finally issued----on the Specialty album “Personality Plus”

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Aug 13 06:16:15 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 6:09:56 +0000, Roger wrote:

    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today………from 1952

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER – SELLIN’ MY WHISKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3IABa3_RI

    This video comes up as unavailable, but this one below works.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQbWJ4fTPw

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Aug 13 19:41:18 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 6:16:15 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 6:09:56 +0000, Roger wrote:

    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today………from 1952

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER – SELLIN’ MY WHISKY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3IABa3_RI

    This video comes up as unavailable, but this one below works.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQbWJ4fTPw

    Thanks Bruce for finding a US-compatible YT copy

    I hadn't noticed the one below (if its USA friendly) which purports to
    be the the longer "restored" (now timed at 1:57) version

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ4dQ-edH6o

    Exactly when and how this was "restored" and what processes were used I
    have no idea

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  • From Playlist@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 00:52:25 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 06:09:56 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
    wrote:

    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today���from 1952

    https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=2tI3SKPN4bY,n4t_8WT4E0s,YJgMZ3QDP7E,ccmIjs6gQBo,FX216Xrhk9M,DzQbWJ4fTPw,kzI2h-Hv1nE,PTmeZ0TgYO8,02j-KwNONz8,

    WOODROW ADAMS � THE LAST TIME
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tI3SKPN4bY

    THE DOMINOES � I AIN�T GONNA CRY FOR YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4t_8WT4E0s

    THE FOUR BUDDIES � NOTHIN� SHAKIN� BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgMZ3QDP7E

    H-BOMB FERGUSON � WORK FOR MY BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmIjs6gQBo

    HOWLIN� WOLF � C.V WINE BLUES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX216Xrhk9M

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER � SELLIN� MY WHISKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQbWJ4fTPw

    MOMS MABLEY & THE ORIOLES � YES INDEED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzI2h-Hv1nE

    BIG MAYBELLE � SO GOOD TO MY BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmeZ0TgYO8

    LLOYD PRICE -MAILMAN BOOGIE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02j-KwNONz8

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Wed Aug 14 21:25:14 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 6:09:56 +0000, Roger wrote:

    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today………from 1952

    WOODROW ADAMS – THE LAST TIME
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tI3SKPN4bY

    Did not know this, it's good, a 6.

    THE DOMINOES – I AIN’T GONNA CRY FOR YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4t_8WT4E0s

    The first release on this had a skip in it right near the end, but it's
    since been fixed on later issues of the track. This record to me is the
    closest sounding real record to the A1 song "Fuck Off, That's Not My
    Job" in style and tempo and sound. I have it as #72 for 1952, an 8 for
    sure.

    THE FOUR BUDDIES – NOTHIN’ SHAKIN’ BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgMZ3QDP7E

    Also an 8, and their best uptempo recording IMO. It's #113 on my list
    for the year.

    H-BOMB FERGUSON – WORK FOR MY BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmIjs6gQBo

    Savoy again with another great unissued side, a 9 for me. I have it as
    #47 for 1952.

    HOWLIN’ WOLF – C.V WINE BLUES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX216Xrhk9M

    This one is great too, an 8, and #78 for the year for me.

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER – SELLIN’ MY WHISKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3IABa3_RI

    Never heard of it before, it's good.

    MOMS MABLEY & THE ORIOLES – YES INDEED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzI2h-Hv1nE

    This one is a KILLER!, A 9 for me and #50 on my list for the year.

    BIG MAYBELLE – SO GOOD TO MY BABY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmeZ0TgYO8

    Another strong one. I have it as an 8, and as #98 for the year.

    LLOYD PRICE - MAILMAN BOOGIE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02j-KwNONz8

    It's good, a 6.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 21:51:56 2024
    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first
    recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Aug 15 05:29:22 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:25:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 6:09:56 +0000, Roger wrote:

    Ten fave unreleased tracks chosen from my yearly Favorites lists

    Today………from 1952

    WOODROW ADAMS – THE LAST TIME
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tI3SKPN4bY

    Did not know this, it's good, a 6.

    I rate this one MUCH higher - great record! #84 on my list and an 8

    THE DOMINOES – I AIN’T GONNA CRY FOR YOU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4t_8WT4E0s

    The first release on this had a skip in it right near the end, but it's
    since been fixed on later issues of the track. This record to me is the closest sounding real record to the A1 song "Fuck Off, That's Not My
    Job" in style and tempo and sound. I have it as #72 for 1952, an 8 for
    sure.

    I did not know about the "skip". #195 and a 7

    THE FOUR BUDDIES – NOTHIN’ SHAKIN’ BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgMZ3QDP7E

    Also an 8, and their best uptempo recording IMO. It's #113 on my list
    for the year.

    Agree re the description. #101 and an 8

    H-BOMB FERGUSON – WORK FOR MY BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmIjs6gQBo

    Savoy again with another great unissued side, a 9 for me. I have it as
    #47 for 1952.

    #117 and an 8

    HOWLIN’ WOLF – C.V WINE BLUES
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX216Xrhk9M

    This one is great too, an 8, and #78 for the year for me.

    We're closeasthis on this one - #82 here an an 8

    JACKIE BOY & LITTLE WALTER – SELLIN’ MY WHISKY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3IABa3_RI

    Never heard of it before, it's good.

    #89 for me and an 8

    MOMS MABLEY & THE ORIOLES – YES INDEED
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzI2h-Hv1nE

    This one is a KILLER!, A 9 for me and #50 on my list for the year.

    #134 and an 8

    BIG MAYBELLE – SO GOOD TO MY BABY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmeZ0TgYO8

    Another strong one. I have it as an 8, and as #98 for the year.

    #197 and a 7

    LLOYD PRICE - MAILMAN BOOGIE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02j-KwNONz8

    It's good, a 6.

    #51 and an 8

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Aug 16 11:05:53 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:51:56 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first >recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

    R&B fanatic Bruce (part Black with Jewish father) overlooked
    or was unaware of:

    Walter Horton - In The Mood [Sun] - recorded Dec 8, 1952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9G1JNIR9c

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Aug 16 10:18:05 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:51:56 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first >recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

    and here is Jerry Lee (age 16-17), on piano and vocal, with his 1952
    demo of "Don't Stay Away" - recorded at Cosimo Matassa's J&M Studio in
    New Orleans:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qxsCdHcf5M

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Aug 16 16:36:56 2024
    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:51:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

    Yep,a good addition.

    I have to take exception tho to the YT posters list of "Jerry's first 10
    songs"

    I imagine most readers would take that to be the first ten songs Jerry
    ever recorded,no?

    In which case I submit the following list as a little more accurate in
    that respect

    1. Don't Stay Away (T ill Love Grows Cold) - 1952
    2, Jerry Lee's Boogie (aka New Orleans Boogie) - 1952
    3. I Don't Hurt Anymore - 1954
    4. If I Ever Needed You (I Need You Now)* - 1954
    5. Crazy Arms - 1956
    6. End Of The Road - 1956
    7. You're The Only Star In My Blue Heaven - 1956
    8. Born To Lose - 1956
    9. Tomorrow Night - 1956
    10. Silver Threads Among The Fold - 1956

    * this song is of course the Joni James song made famous by Eddie Fisher

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Fri Aug 16 20:46:28 2024
    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:05:53 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:51:56 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first >>recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

    R&B fanatic Bruce (part Black with Jewish father) overlooked
    or was unaware of:

    Walter Horton - In The Mood [Sun] - recorded Dec 8, 1952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9G1JNIR9c

    I doubt that since Bruce may well have a similar opinion to me about
    this one---it's very ordinary with no big commending features. Not even
    on my list---a 5 or so probably. Walter has a lot of better stuff out
    there.

    It would be nice too if you could find a way of curbing the racial and
    heritage background stuff of people here in some of your posts that seem
    to fascinate you so much but which bore the rest of us shitless

    Thanks so much

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Fri Aug 16 20:57:24 2024
    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:46:28 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:05:53 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 21:51:56 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    The only thing I can think of to add right now is Jerry Jee's first >>>recording.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcnpnSPEQQ

    R&B fanatic Bruce (part Black with Jewish father) overlooked
    or was unaware of:

    Walter Horton - In The Mood [Sun] - recorded Dec 8, 1952
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9G1JNIR9c

    I doubt that since Bruce may well have a similar opinion to me about
    this one---it's very ordinary with no big commending features. Not even
    on my list---a 5 or so probably. Walter has a lot of better stuff out
    there.

    That's what I thought when I listened to it. "In The Mood" doesn't work
    in a blues style. For me it's a 4 at best.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 18:33:07 2024
    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:46:28 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
    wrote:

    It would be nice too if you could find a way of curbing the racial and >heritage background stuff of people here in some of your posts that seem
    to fascinate you so much but which bore the rest of us shitless

    Thanks so much

    Roger,Roger,in today's woke world,a world that hails diversity,Bruce
    is a hero - except when he misleadingly calls someone dumbass and
    falsely accuses them of being like Trump;and not a whisper from you,
    his racial pal,on these occasions we note.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Aug 16 23:03:21 2024
    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:57:24 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:05:53 +0000, RWC wrote:

    Walter Horton - In The Mood [Sun] - recorded Dec 8, 1952
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9G1JNIR9c

    "In The Mood" doesn't work in a blues style.

    Are you saying this is not a blues recording, Bruce?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Sat Aug 17 03:18:46 2024
    On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 3:03:21 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 20:57:24 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 15:05:53 +0000, RWC wrote:

    Walter Horton - In The Mood [Sun] - recorded Dec 8, 1952
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se9G1JNIR9c

    "In The Mood" doesn't work in a blues style.

    Are you saying this is not a blues recording, Bruce?

    No. I'm saying it's not a good blues recording because the material does
    not fit well as blues.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 12:38:44 2024
    Ten of Geoff's Fave Unreleased Tracks from 1952.

    Despite being unreleased there are some really great R&B tracks within
    the playlists below.

    U.S. Playlist (7 tracks, the other 3 are unavailable in U.S.) https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=Wp2SdWuMDDc,iipbctesKrk,ScV1flYEbp8,4hfypiLmXOA,CQx6Mp8AtXA,T5ZT7UgLpis,F2DI3_G6Je0,

    U.K. Playlist (all 10 tracks; the 2 Mari Jones tracks are very good) https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=gnlD-K6r0ks,Wp2SdWuMDDc,iipbctesKrk,ScV1flYEbp8,4hfypiLmXOA,CQx6Mp8AtXA,T5ZT7UgLpis,KXZAt0F8Z6Y,zb5co_M3f8o,F2DI3_G6Je0,

    Mari Jones - What Makes A Man Fool Around [Modern]
    UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnlD-K6r0ks

    Sha-Weez - Feeling Sad [Aladdin]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2SdWuMDDc

    Alma Cogan {UK Pop} - Red Silken Stockings [UK HMV] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipbctesKrk

    Joe Hill Louis - Keep Your Arms Around Me Mama [Sun] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScV1flYEbp8

    Mari Jones - Merry Christmas Baby [Modern] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hfypiLmXOA

    Billy Red Love - A Dream [Sun]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQx6Mp8AtXA

    Four Buddies - Nothin' Shaking Baby [Savoy] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ZT7UgLpis

    Drifting Slim - I Feel So Good [Modern]
    UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXZAt0F8Z6Y

    Frankie Ervin & Mari Jones - My Last Letter [Modern]
    UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb5co_M3f8o

    Helen Humes - Take My Love [Modern]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DI3_G6Je0

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