Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance)

The lead on "No Sweet Lovin'" is Bill Pinkney.

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

This can' be on a obscure list. It made the Billboard R&B charts, peaking at #12 for a week in January 1956.

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10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

THE CALVANES – CRAZY OVER YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXBQFPx24M

Good Los Angeles group descended from two previous groups (check out Unca Marvy article below) who recorded for Dootsie Williams.The catchy “Crazy Over You” was their first for Dootone and has long been a favorite of mine

See detailed writeup on the group by Marv Goldberg here) https://www.uncamarvy.com/Calvanes/calvanes.html

DADDY CLEANHEAD – SOMETHING’S GOIN’ ON IN MY ROOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcwE44Uqko

Aka Fred Higgins--older brother of r&b great Chuck Higgins--recorded this solid jump number (as “Daddy Cleanhead”) for Specialty. Always popular in our London oldies store it was still in catalog even to the early 70’s since copies could still be
ordered from the USA

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance) and The Checkers. Leroy Kirkland’s outfit proves the
backing here with contributions from Jerome Richardson (ten sax) Mickey Baker (gtr) and Sticks Evans (dms)

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

One of my most treasured memories of that very first visit to the USA was the trip to Fortune Records in Detroit where we received a wonderful welcome from Devora Brown whose hospitality knew no bounds----bounds that grew larger still when yours truly
let her know that he had purchased a UK copy of Nathaniel Mayer’s “Village Of Love” back home---thus helping to make it the biggest selling single Fortune ever had.She even allowed us into the back warehouse that was normally verboten.

I heard a hell of a lot of great “new” sounds that day---but none came better than the one these notes are attached to here. I already knew “The Wind” and “Daddy Rockin’ Strong” by The Diablos but that was about all. My learning of their
other records went sky high that day---but none of my other discoveries topped the wonderful “The Way You Dog Me Around”

“LITTLE” WILLY FOSTER – FALLING RAIN BLUES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdRN5MetrZ0

As well as his recording for Al Benson’s Blue Lake label in Chicago Foster also had a version of this fine blues out on Parrot. Backing musicians here are Lazy Bill Lucas (pno) Floyd Jones (gtr) Ray Scott (dms) (as per Leadbitter & Slaven)

JESS HOOPER – ALL MESSED UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L03IrlauRQ

Long time rockabilly favorite on the UK rock ‘n’ roll circuit. Jess Hooper recorded for Meteor in Memphis and over here was long thought to be nothing but a “moonlighting” Charlie Feathers trying to make a few bucks on the side.

So very rare that you’ll probably need to remortgage your house to buy an original 45rpm of this one.

There’s more on Jess here :- http://thompsonian.info/Jess-Hooper-Rockabilly.html

SAMMY LEWIS – I FEEL SO WORRIED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYu8n70mxtM

Stalwart of the legendary 1966 “The Blues Came Down From Memphis” compilation LP of old Sun tracks on London here in the UK
https://www.discogs.com/release/4669675-Various-The-Blues-Came-Down-From-Memphis-

This fine blues number was recorded for Sun in Memphis on March 28 1955 (his one and only session for the label) with Sammy Lewis (vcl) Willie Johnson (gtr) L.C Hubert (pno) Joe Nathan (dms)

THE MELLOHARPS – AIN’T GOT THE MONEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyur142HAyo

Hailing from Brooklyn The Melloharps comprising Arnold “Johnny” Malone (lead),Vernon Staley (1st tenor) Joe Gowder (2nd tenor) Daniel Elder (baritone) and Ossie Davis (bass) made their debut on wax in 1955 with the beautiful “Love Is A Vow”
ballad on Do-Re-Mi label.

Years-end 1955 brought their second single (this time on Tin Pan Alley label)---with Bobby Hawkins replacing Ossie Davis as bass---on the rockin’ “Ain’t Got The Money” my personal favorite by them.

Everything you could ever wanna know about the Melloharps is summed up in this detailed---you guessed it--- Unca Marvy look at their work
https://www.uncamarvy.com/MelloHarps/melloharps.html

BIG BOY MYLES & THE SHAW-WEES – WHO’S BEEN FOOLING YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Bo9mpFa6s

Along with James “Sugar Boy” Crawford,Edgar “Big Boy” Myles was a member of the original “Sha-Weez” group who had the one record release on Aladdin in 1953 of “No One To Love Me”. Edgar’s brother Warren was also a member and returns
here on piano for the excellent Specialty remake of the (then unreleased) Professor Longhair’s original Atlantic recording “Who’s Been Fooling You”

I imagine the “Shaw-Wees” here are merely the studio pick up session band

THE ROCKERS – COUNT EVERY STAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuMo24fHzrA

My personal favorite version of the much loved oldie and my nomination in the August 2021 Obscurities contest.

Comprising Art Lassiter (lead) Douglas Martin,George Green and Murrey Green they recorded first as “The Trojans” for RPM then cut “Count Every Star” for Emmett Carter who released it on his small self-named Carter label based in St Louis,Mo.

Working often with famed local stars Ike Turner & His Band in and around St Louis The Rockers collaborated with them for a couple of Federal singles over the next year or so (including the splendid “Down In The Bottom”)

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance)

The lead on "No Sweet Lovin'" is Bill Pinkney.

My mistake. I should have said "Honey Bee" from the same April 21 recording session

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

This can' be on a obscure list. It made the Billboard R&B charts, peaking at #12 for a week in January 1956.

You're right and I never noticed this in all the years I had Whitburn's R&M hits book. But I'll stay with the Diablos and go instead with "Daddy Rockin' Strong"

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Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

THE CALVANES – CRAZY OVER YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXBQFPx24M

A bit gimmicky, but still worth a 6.

DADDY CLEANHEAD – SOMETHING’S GOIN’ ON IN MY ROOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcwE44Uqko

A very solid 8.

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another very solid 8.

THE DIABLOS – DADDY ROCKIN' STRONG

A great one, it's a 9 on the Brice scale.

“LITTLE” WILLY FOSTER – FALLING RAIN BLUES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdRN5MetrZ0

For some reason I had it as "Falling Down Blues," but I just corrected that. It's a 6, but for me it does not distinguish itself from hundreds of other similar sounding records.

JESS HOOPER – ALL MESSED UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L03IrlauRQ

Very good obscure rockabilly, a 7.

SAMMY LEWIS – I FEEL SO WORRIED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYu8n70mxtM

This Jr. Parker knockoff rates a 6.

THE MELLOHARPS – AIN’T GOT THE MONEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyur142HAyo

A very solid 9 that is #76 on my 1955 list.

BIG BOY MYLES & THE SHAW-WEES – WHO’S BEEN FOOLING YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Bo9mpFa6s

Another solid 6. Did not know it by Longhair, it's a little better than the Mylkes version. Do you have a year on the Longhair?

THE ROCKERS – COUNT EVERY STAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuMo24fHzrA

All 3 doo wop versions of this (Ravens, Rockers, Rivieras) that I have are pretty equal eights for me.

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

BIG BOY MYLES & THE SHAW-WEES – WHO’S BEEN FOOLING YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Bo9mpFa6s

Another solid 6. Did not know it by Longhair, it's a little better than the Mylkes version. Do you have a year on the Longhair?

I have it as recorded at the same November 1953 session as "Tipitina" and "In The Night"

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Okay, my turn. Ten of my favorite obscurities from 1955.

4 ¦ Move Baby Move ¦ Larry Harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MoPLmpPWV4

My favorite record on Savoy features Larry Harrison, lead singer of the 4 Buddies, doing a "Shake, Rattle and Roll" styled version of "Move Baby Move," which was done first by Billy Emerson on Sun, albeit with a very different arrangement and lots of
different lyrics. You know, it might just be a different song with the same title.

115 ¦ Don't Fool With Lizzie ¦ Whispers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMzin9izmv4

Recorded in Philadelphia for Gotham, this group was led by future Flamingo Terry Johnson and they
hailed from the DC area. They recorded 4 sides, 2 ballads and 2 uptempos. All 4 sides are excellent or better, but the 2 ballads are classics with collectors. This one of the uptempo sides.

230 ¦ Straight Street ¦ Pilgrim Travelers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDV610Fbp2w

Like many gospel groups this one features a fantastic bass singer. Released on Specialty.

303 ¦ Man From Utopia ¦ Donald Woods & Vel-Aires https://youtu.be/0n2aq5_jwXI?t=186

The flip side of California cult classic "Death Of An Angel," this side had its own cult following.

406 ¦ You Came To Me ¦ Five Crowns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtALYEvrFkM

On the obscure Riviera label, another legendary vocal group obscurity that destroys the collectors.

500 ¦ Shuckin' Stuff ¦ Al Collins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfurqF0L8x4

First release on Johnny Vincent's famous Ace label.

587 ¦ Country Woman ¦ Boo Breeding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wlm2YXnm8

Very good rockin' Blues on Imperial.

495 ¦ Hot Mamma ¦ Chanters Feat. Ethel Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlinGq5rgI

Mambo beat R&B that was featured on lots of records at this time. On the Combo label.

382 ¦ Sweet Thing ¦ Rams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCltVgCyt-c

I love this low down California sound on midtempo records like this one. On the Flair label, the Rams were a trio that featured future major league baseball player Arthur Lee Maye, bass Johnny Coleman, and the bass/baritone singer from the Flairs,
Richard Berry.

254 ¦ Sneaky Pete ¦ Sonny Fisher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXkrgSGr1w

I had to get at least one rockabilly side in here, so we'll go with this one on the Starday label. He was known as "The Wild Man From Texas," and here's a quote from him, "Everything we did came from R&B ; we picked up the beat, the rhythm, everything
from Joe Turner, Fats Domino, B.B. King, people like that.

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Bruce wrote:

Okay, my turn. Ten of my favorite obscurities from 1955.

4 ¦ Move Baby Move ¦ Larry Harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MoPLmpPWV4

7

My favorite record on Savoy features Larry Harrison, lead singer of the 4 Buddies, doing a "Shake, Rattle and Roll" styled version of "Move Baby Move," which was done first by Billy Emerson on Sun, albeit with a very different arrangement and lots of

different lyrics. You know, it might just be a different song with the same title.

#360 on my list and a 7

I like the Emerson better. #298 and a 7

115 ¦ Don't Fool With Lizzie ¦ Whispers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMzin9izmv4

Recorded in Philadelphia for Gotham, this group was led by future Flamingo Terry Johnson and they
hailed from the DC area. They recorded 4 sides, 2 ballads and 2 uptempos. All 4 sides are excellent or better, but the 2 ballads are classics with collectors. This one of the uptempo sides.

#198 and an 8

230 ¦ Straight Street ¦ Pilgrim Travelers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDV610Fbp2w

Like many gospel groups this one features a fantastic bass singer. Released on Specialty.

#404 and a 7

303 ¦ Man From Utopia ¦ Donald Woods & Vel-Aires https://youtu.be/0n2aq5_jwXI?t=186

The flip side of California cult classic "Death Of An Angel," this side had its own cult following.

#572 and a 7. I like the topside better

406 ¦ You Came To Me ¦ Five Crowns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtALYEvrFkM

On the obscure Riviera label, another legendary vocal group obscurity that destroys the collectors.

#208 and an 8

500 ¦ Shuckin' Stuff ¦ Al Collins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfurqF0L8x4

First release on Johnny Vincent's famous Ace label.

I have this as a 6

587 ¦ Country Woman ¦ Boo Breeding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wlm2YXnm8

Very good rockin' Blues on Imperial.

#134 and an 8. My nomination in a recent Obscurities contest

495 ¦ Hot Mamma ¦ Chanters Feat. Ethel Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlinGq5rgI

Mambo beat R&B that was featured on lots of records at this time. On the Combo label.

~667 and a 7

382 ¦ Sweet Thing ¦ Rams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCltVgCyt-c

I love this low down California sound on midtempo records like this one. On the Flair label, the Rams were a trio that featured future major league baseball player Arthur Lee Maye, bass Johnny Coleman, and the bass/baritone singer from the Flairs,

Richard Berry.

#761 and a 7

254 ¦ Sneaky Pete ¦ Sonny Fisher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXkrgSGr1w

I had to get at least one rockabilly side in here, so we'll go with this one on the Starday label. He was known as "The Wild Man From Texas," and here's a quote from him, "Everything we did came from R&B ; we picked up the beat, the rhythm, everything

from Joe Turner, Fats Domino, B.B. King, people like that.

#167 and an 8. "Rockin' Daddy" ranks higher #145 and an 8

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance)

The lead on "No Sweet Lovin'" is Bill Pinkney.

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

This can' be on a obscure list. It made the Billboard R&B charts, peaking at #12 for a week in January 1956.

Thinking about this I won't be altering my Diablos entry here after all

If a Billboard #1 pop chart record can classify as an "obscurity" for an Obscurities contest (and go on to win said contest) then surely my nomination here regardless of a minor one week r&b chart entry should stand.

Well I say it does.

I hereby withdraw "Daddy Rockin' Strong" and revert to my originsl entry

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Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance)

The lead on "No Sweet Lovin'" is Bill Pinkney.

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

This can' be on a obscure list. It made the Billboard R&B charts, peaking at #12 for a week in January 1956.

Thinking about this I won't be altering my Diablos entry here after all

If a Billboard #1 pop chart record can classify as an "obscurity" for an Obscurities contest (and go on to win said contest) then surely my nomination here regardless of a minor one week r&b chart entry should stand.

Well I say it does.

I hereby withdraw "Daddy Rockin' Strong" and revert to my originsl entry

Why don't you just name "Johnny B. Goode" by Chuck Berry as your all time favorite obscurity?

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On Sat, 18 May 2024 21:17:14 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

If a Billboard #1 pop chart record can classify as an "obscurity" for an Obscurities contest (and go on to win said contest) then surely my nomination here regardless of a minor one week r&b chart entry should stand.

Well I say it does.

I hereby withdraw "Daddy Rockin' Strong" and revert to my original entry

LOL. So 'Obscurity' is a redundant word in both the Contest and the
Ten Fave threads.

I guess what should have happened is that Bruce should have disallowed
that Billboard #1 pop chart record?

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS – I WON’T CRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk

Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of “Little David” aka >>>> David Baughan previously of the Drifters (that’s Clyde clone #1 as lead >>>> on the fine “No Sweet Lovin’” for instance)

The lead on "No Sweet Lovin'" is Bill Pinkney.

THE DIABLOS – THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc

This can' be on a obscure list. It made the Billboard R&B charts,
peaking at #12 for a week in January 1956.

Thinking about this I won't be altering my Diablos entry here after all

If a Billboard #1 pop chart record can classify as an "obscurity" for an
Obscurities contest (and go on to win said contest) then surely my
nomination here regardless of a minor one week r&b chart entry should
stand.

Well I say it does.

I hereby withdraw "Daddy Rockin' Strong" and revert to my originsl
entry

Why don't you just name "Johnny B. Goode" by Chuck Berry as your all
time favorite obscurity?

1) I ha22ven't gotten to 1958 yet
2) Don't hold your breath :)

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 05:20:08 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

Today......from 1955

https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=sBXBQFPx24M,tfcwE44Uqko,ggqHhpzmihk,ZIck2g_UbBc,TdRN5MetrZ0,5L03IrlauRQ,YYu8n70mxtM,cyur142HAyo,G6Bo9mpFa6s,ZuMo24fHzrA,

THE CALVANES � CRAZY OVER YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXBQFPx24M
Good Los Angeles group,descended from two previous groups,on
label Dootone. Has long been a favorite of mine.

DADDY CLEANHEAD � SOMETHING�S GOIN� ON IN MY ROOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfcwE44Uqko
Aka Fred Higgins--older brother of r&b great Chuck Higgins--
recorded this solid jump number for Specialty.

LITTLE DAVID & THE HARPS � I WON�T CRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqHhpzmihk
Another gem from Savoy that features the vocals of �Little David�
aka David Baughan previously of The Drifters and The Checkers.
Leroy Kirkland�s outfit provides backing,including Mickey Baker.

THE DIABLOS � THE WAY YOU DOG ME AROUND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIck2g_UbBc
One of my most treasured memories of that first visit to the USA
was the trip to Fortune Records in Detroit. The many great �new�
sounds I heard that day peaked with �The Way You Dog Me Around�

�LITTLE� WILLY FOSTER � FALLING RAIN BLUES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdRN5MetrZ0
As well as a recording for Al Benson�s Blue Lake label in Chicago
Foster also had a version of this fine blues out on Parrot.

JESS HOOPER � ALL MESSED UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L03IrlauRQ
Long time rockabilly favorite on the UK rock �n� roll circuit.
Jess Hooper recorded for Meteor in Memphis,long thought to be a
�moonlighting� Charlie Feathers making a few bucks on the side.

SAMMY LEWIS � I FEEL SO WORRIED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYu8n70mxtM
This fine blues number was recorded for Sun in March 1955,with
Sammy Lewis (v) Willie Johnson (g) L.C Hubert (p) Joe Nathan (d)

THE MELLOHARPS � AIN�T GOT THE MONEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyur142HAyo
Hailing from Brooklyn with Arnold �Johnny� Malone on lead.
The rockin� �Ain�t Got The Money�,is a personal favorite by them.

BIG BOY MYLES & THE SHAW-WEES � WHO�S BEEN FOOLING YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Bo9mpFa6s
Excellent Specialty remake of Professor Longhair�s original
(unreleased at the time) Atlantic recording.

THE ROCKERS � COUNT EVERY STAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuMo24fHzrA
My personal favorite version of the much loved oldie.
Art Lassiter on lead,out on small Carter label of St Louis,Mo.

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 16:57:39 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

Okay, my turn. Ten of my favorite obscurities from 1955.

https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=4MoPLmpPWV4,GMzin9izmv4,BDV610Fbp2w,0n2aq5_jwXI,FtALYEvrFkM,VfurqF0L8x4,W1wlm2YXnm8,CLlinGq5rgI,JCltVgCyt-c,eAXkrgSGr1w,

4 � Move Baby Move � Larry Harrison >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MoPLmpPWV4
My favorite record on Savoy features the lead singer of the Four
Buddies.

To be clear, comments on each side are from Bruce, not me.
I simply provided the YouTube 10-track playlist above.
It's a great playlist from Bruce, imo.

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 16:57:39 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

Okay, my turn. Ten of my favorite obscurities from 1955.

https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=4MoPLmpPWV4,GMzin9izmv4,BDV610Fbp2w,0n2aq5_jwXI,FtALYEvrFkM,VfurqF0L8x4,W1wlm2YXnm8,CLlinGq5rgI,JCltVgCyt-c,eAXkrgSGr1w,

4 � Move Baby Move � Larry Harrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MoPLmpPWV4
My favorite record on Savoy features the lead singer of the Four
Buddies.

115 � Don't Fool With Lizzie � Whispers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMzin9izmv4
Recorded in Philadelphia for Gotham, led by future Flamingo
Terry Johnson, group hailed from the DC area. All 4 recorded
sides are excellent - 2 are classic ballads, this is uptempo.

230 � Straight Street � Pilgrim Travelers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDV610Fbp2w
Like many gospel groups this one features a fantastic bass singer.
Released on Specialty.

303 � Man From Utopia � Donald Woods & Vel-Aires https://youtu.be/0n2aq5_jwXI?t=186
Flip side of California cult classic "Death Of An Angel."

406 � You Came To Me � Five Crowns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtALYEvrFkM
On the obscure Riviera label.

500 � Shuckin' Stuff � Al Collins
First released on Johnny Vincent's famous Ace label.

587 � Country Woman � Boo Breeding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wlm2YXnm8
Very good rockin' Blues on Imperial.

495 � Hot Mamma � Chanters Feat. Ethel Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlinGq5rgI
Mambo beat R&B found on many records at this time. On Combo label.

382 � Sweet Thing � Rams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCltVgCyt-c
I love this low down California midtempo sound. On Flair label.
The Rams trio featured future major league baseball player
Arthur Lee Maye, bass Johnny Coleman, and Flairs' bass/baritone,
Richard Berry.

254 � Sneaky Pete � Sonny Fisher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXkrgSGr1w
I had to include at least one rockabilly side, so we'll go with
this one on Starday. Known as "The Wild Man From Texas," and
here's a quote from him, "Everything we did came from R&B..."

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 05:20:08 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

Today......from 1955

Artist-Songs (162) from the three weekly Billboard R&B Charts
from Jan 1955 to end of Feb 1956
(source - http://hitsofalldecades.com/chart_hits/)

A Cole - Are You Satisfied
Al Hibbler - He
Al Hibbler - Unchained Melody
Artrhur Gunter - Baby Let's Play House
B.B. King - Crying Won't Help You
B.B. King - Everyday I Have The Blues
B.B. King - Sneakin' Around
B.B. King - Ten Long Years
B.B. King - You Upset Me Baby
Bill Haley & His Comets - Burn That Candle
Bill Haley & His Comets - Dim,Dim The Lights
Bill Haley & His Comets - Rock Around The Clock
Bill Haley & The Comets - See You Later Alligator
Bo Diddley - Bo Diddley
Bo Diddley - Diddley Daddy
Bo Diddley - I'm A Man
Bo Diddley - Pretty Thing
Boyd Bennett And His Rockets - My Boy Flat - Top
Boyd Bennett And His Rockets - Seventeen
Bubber Johnson - Come Home
Buddy Griffin & Claudia Swana - I Wanna Hug Ya,Squeeze Ya,Kiss Ya
Buddy Johnson - (Gotta Go) Upside Your Head
Cadillacs - Speedoo
Cardinals - Door Is Still Open
Charms - Bazoom (I Need Your Lovin')
Charms - Hearts Of Stone
Charms - Ling,Ting,Tong
Charms - Two Hearts
Chuck Berry - Maybellene
Chuck Berry - Thirty Days (To Come Back Home)
Chuck Berry - Wee Wee Hours
Clovers - Blue Velvet
Clovers - Devil Or Angel
Clovers - Hey,Doll Baby
Clovers - Nip Sip
Clyde Mcphatter & Ruth Brown - Love Has Joined Us Together
Clyde Mcphatter - Seven Days
Colts - Adorable
Count Basie - April In Paris
Count Basie - Every Day
Danderliers - Chop Chop Boom
Dinah Washington - I Concentrate On You
Dinah Washington - I Diddie
Dinah Washington - I'm Lost Without You Tonight
Dinah Washington - If It's The Last Thing I Do
Dinah Washington - Teach Me Tonight
Dinah Washington - That's All I Want From You
Dinah Washington - You Might Have Told Me
Drifters - Adorable
Drifters - Steamboat
What'cha Gonna Do - Drifters -
Drifters - White Christmas
Earl King - Don't Take It So Hard
Earl King - Those Lonely,Lonely Nights
El Dorados - At My Front Door
Ella & Buddy Johnson - I Don't Want Nobody
Ernie Freeman - Jivin' Around (Parts I & Ii)
Etta James - Good Rockin' Daddy
Etta James - The Wallflower
Fats Domino - Ain't It A Shame
Fats Domino - All By Myself
Fats Domino - Bo Weevil
Fats Domino - Don't Blame It On Me
Fats Domino - Don't You Know?
Fats Domino - I Can't Go On
Fats Domino - Poor Me
Fats Domino - Thinking Of You
Faye Adams - Hurts Me To My Heart
Five Keys - 'Cause You're My Lover
Five Keys - Close Your Eyes
Five Keys - Ling,Ting,Tong
Five Keys - Verdict
Flamingos - I'll Be Home
Four Fellows - Soldier Boy
Frankie Lymon & Teenagers - Why Do Fools Fall In Love
Gale Storm - I Hear You Knocking
Gene & Eunice - Ko Ko Mo
Gene & Eunice - This Is My Story
Hearts - Lonely Nights
Howlin' Wolf - Who'll Be Next
Ivory Joe Hunter - It May Sound Silly
J.B. Lenore - Mama Talk To Your Daughter
Jack Dupree & Mr. Bear - Walking The Blues
Jacks - Why Don't You Write Me?
Jay Mcshann - Hands Off
Jim Lowe - Maybellene
Jimmy Reed - Ain't That Lovin' You Baby?
Jimmy Reed - I Don't Go For That
Jimmy Reed - You Don't Have To Go
Joe Turner - Chicken And The Hawk
Joe Turner - Flip Flop And Fly
Joe Turner - Hide And Seek
Joe Turner - Morning,Noon And Night
Joe Turner - Shake,Rattle & Roll
Johnny "Guitar" Watson - Those Lonely,Lonely Nights
Johnny Ace - Anymore
Johnny Ace - Pledging My Love
Johnny Moore - Johnny Ace's Last Letter
Lavern Baker - Bop Ting - A Ling
Lavern Baker - Play It Fair
Lavern Baker - That's All I Need
Lavern Baker - That's All I Need
Lavern Baker - Tweedle Dee
Little Richard - Tutti Frutti
Little Walter - Last Night
Little Walter - My Babe
Little Walter - Roller Coaster
Little Willie John - All Around The World
Little Willie John - Need Your Love So Bad
Lowell Fulson - Loving You
Lowell Fulson - Reconsider Baby
Marigolds - Rollin' Stone
Midnighters - Henry's Got Flat Feet
Midnighters - It's Love,Baby
Moonglows - Most Of All
Moonglows - Sincerely
Muddy Waters - Manish Boy
Muddy Waters - Sugar Sweet
Nappy Brown - Don't Be Angry
Nappy Brown - Piddly Patter Patter
Nutmegs - Ship Of Love
Nutmegs - Story Untold
Pat Boone - Ain't That A Shame
Pat Boone - At My Front Door
Penguins - Earth Angel
Platters - Great Pretender
Platters - Only You
Priscilla Bowman - Hands Off
Ray Charles - Blackjack
Ray Charles - Blackjack
Ray Charles - Come Back
Ray Charles - Drown In My Own Tears
Ray Charles - Fool For You
Ray Charles - Greenbacks
Ray Charles - I've Got A Woman
Ray Charles - This Little Girl Of Mine
Robbins - Smokey Joe's Cafe
Robins - Smokey Joe's Cafe
Rollie Mcgill - There Goes That Train
Roy Hamilton - Forgive This Fool
Roy Hamilton - Hurt
Roy Hamilton - Unchained Melody
Ruth Brown - As Long As I'm Moving
Ruth Brown - As Long As I'm Moving
Ruth Brown - Bye Bye Young Men
Ruth Brown - I Can See Everybody's Baby
Ruth Brown - I Wanna Do More
Ruth Brown - It's Love Baby (24 Hours A Day)
Ruth Brown - Mambo Baby
Sensations - Yes Sir,That's My Baby
Shirley & Lee - Feel So Good
Smiley Lewis - I Hear You Knocking
Sonny Boy Williams - Don't Start Me Talkin'
Spaniels - Your Painted Pictures
Spiders - Twenty One
Spiders - Witchcraft
Teen Queens - Eddie My Love
Toppers - It's Love Baby (24 Hours A Day) - Louis Brooks & Hi
Turbans - When You Dance
Varetta Dillard - Johnny Has Gone
Willie Dixon - Walking The Blues
Willie Mabon - Poison Ivy

by Song-Artist:

'Cause You're My Lover - Five Keys
(Gotta Go) Upside Your Head - Buddy Johnson
Adorable - Colts
Adorable - Drifters
Ain't It A Shame - Fats Domino
Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone
Ain't That Lovin' You Baby? - Jimmy Reed
All Around The World - Little Willie John
All By Myself - Fats Domino
Anymore - Johnny Ace
April In Paris - Count Basie
Are You Satisfied - A Cole
As Long As I'm Moving - Ruth Brown
At My Front Door - El Dorados
At My Front Door - Pat Boone
Baby Let's Play House - Artrhur Gunter
Bazoom (I Need Your Lovin') - Charms
Blackjack - Ray Charles
Blackjack/Greenbacks - Ray Charles
Blue Velvet - Clovers
Bo Diddley - Bo Diddley
I'm A Man - Bo Diddley
Bo Weevil - Fats Domino
Bop Ting - A Ling - Lavern Baker
That's All I Need - Lavern Baker
Burn That Candle - Bill Haley & His Comets
Bye Bye Young Men - Ruth Brown
Chicken And The Hawk - Joe Turner
Chop Chop Boom - Danderliers
Close Your Eyes - Five Keys
Come Back - Ray Charles
Come Home - Bubber Johnson
Crying Won't Help You - B.B. King
Devil Or Angel - Clovers
Diddley Daddy - Bo Diddley
Dim,Dim The Lights - Bill Haley & His Comets
Don't Be Angry - Nappy Brown
Don't Blame It On Me - Fats Domino
Don't Start Me Talkin' - Sonny Boy Williams
Don't Take It So Hard - Earl King
Don't You Know? - Fats Domino
Door Is Still Open - Cardinals
Drown In My Own Tears - Ray Charles
Earth Angel - Penguins
Eddie My Love - Teen Queens
Every Day - Count Basie
Everyday I Have The Blues - B.B. King
Feel So Good - Shirley & Lee
Flip Flop And Fly - Joe Turner
Fool For You - Ray Charles
Forgive This Fool - Roy Hamilton
Good Rockin' Daddy - Etta James
Great Pretender - Platters
Greenbacks - Ray Charles
Hands Off - Jay Mcshann
Hands Off - Priscilla Bowman
He - Al Hibbler
Hearts Of Stone - Charms
Henry's Got Flat Feet - Midnighters
Hey,Doll Baby - Clovers
Hide And Seek - Joe Turner
Hurt - Roy Hamilton
Hurts Me To My Heart - Faye Adams
I Can See Everybody's Baby - Ruth Brown
As Long As I'm Moving - Ruth Brown
I Can't Go On - Fats Domino
I Concentrate On You - Dinah Washington
I Diddie - Dinah Washington
If It's The Last Thing I Do - Dinah Washington
I Don't Go For That - Jimmy Reed
I Don't Want Nobody - Ella & Buddy Johnson
I Hear You Knocking - Gale Storm
I Hear You Knocking - Smiley Lewis
I Wanna Do More - Ruth Brown
I Wanna Hug Ya,Squeeze Ya,Kiss Ya - Buddy Griffin & Claudia Swana
I'll Be Home - Flamingos
I'm Lost Without You Tonight - Dinah Washington
I've Got A Woman - Ray Charles
It May Sound Silly - Ivory Joe Hunter
It's Love Baby (24 Hours A Day) - Louis Brooks & Hi - Toppers
It's Love Baby (24 Hours A Day) - Ruth Brown
It's Love,Baby - Midnighters
Jivin' Around (Parts I & Ii) - Ernie Freeman
Johnny Ace's Last Letter - Johnny Moore
Johnny Has Gone - Varetta Dillard
Ko Ko Mo - Gene & Eunice
Last Night - Little Walter
Ling,Ting,Tong - Charms
Ling,Ting,Tong - Five Keys
Lonely Nights - Hearts
Love Has Joined Us Together - Clyde Mcphatter & Ruth Brown
Loving You - Lowell Fulson
Mama Talk To Your Daughter - J.B. Lenore
Mambo Baby - Ruth Brown
Manish Boy - Muddy Waters
Maybellene - Chuck Berry
Maybellene - Jim Lowe
Morning,Noon And Night - Joe Turner
Most Of All - Moonglows
My Babe - Little Walter
My Boy Flat - Top - Boyd Bennett And His Rockets
Need Your Love So Bad - Little Willie John
Nip Sip - Clovers
Only You - Platters
Piddly Patter Patter - Nappy Brown
Play It Fair - Lavern Baker
Pledging My Love - Johnny Ace
Poison Ivy - Willie Mabon
Poor Me - Fats Domino
Pretty Thing - Bo Diddley
Reconsider Baby - Lowell Fulson
Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets
Roller Coaster - Little Walter
Rollin' Stone - Marigolds
See You Later Alligator - Bill Haley & The Comets
Seven Days - Clyde Mcphatter
Seventeen - Boyd Bennett And His Rockets
Shake,Rattle & Roll - Joe Turner
Ship Of Love - Nutmegs
Sincerely - Moonglows
Smokey Joe's Cafe - Robbins
Smokey Joe's Cafe - Robins
Sneakin' Around - B.B. King
Soldier Boy - Four Fellows
Speedoo - Cadillacs
Steamboat - Drifters
Story Untold - Nutmegs
Sugar Sweet - Muddy Waters
Teach Me Tonight - Dinah Washington
Ten Long Years - B.B. King
That's All I Need - Lavern Baker
That's All I Want From You - Dinah Washington
The Wallflower - Etta James
There Goes That Train - Rollie Mcgill
Thinking Of You - Fats Domino
Thirty Days (To Come Back Home) - Chuck Berry
This Is My Story - Gene & Eunice
This Little Girl Of Mine - Ray Charles
Those Lonely,Lonely Nights - Earl King
Those Lonely,Lonely Nights - Johnny "Guitar" Watson
Tutti Frutti - Little Richard
Tweedle Dee - Lavern Baker
Twenty One - Spiders
Two Hearts - Charms
Unchained Melody - Al Hibbler
Unchained Melody - Roy Hamilton
Verdict - Five Keys
Walking The Blues - Jack Dupree & Mr. Bear
Walking The Blues - Willie Dixon
Wee Wee Hours - Chuck Berry
What'cha Gonna Do - The Drifters
When You Dance - Turbans
White Christmas - Drifters
Who'll Be Next - Howlin' Wolf
Why Do Fools Fall In Love - Frankie Lymon & Teenagers
Why Don't You Write Me? - Jacks
Witchcraft - Spiders
Yes Sir,That's My Baby - Sensations
You Don't Have To Go - Jimmy Reed
You Might Have Told Me - Dinah Washington
You Upset Me Baby - B.B. King
Your Painted Pictures - Spaniels

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 05:20:08 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

Today......from 1955

Tomorrow morning, I will add YT links, etc, to the following
personal fave obscurities (ie did not appear on any R&B chart
at the time):

Blues Rockers - Calling All Cows [Excello 2062 A;;Nashville]

Oscar McLollie and His "Honeyjumpers" - Roll Hot Rod Roll [Modern 970]

Donna Hightower - Right Now [RPM 445;b-side]

Mercy Dee - Romp And Stomp Blues [Flair 1073]

The Hurricanes - Pistol Packin' Mama [King 4817]

The Sparks Of Rhythm, aka The Berliners - Woman, Woman, Woman [Apollo
479]

The Mellows f. Lillian Leach - Pretty Baby, What's Your Name? [Jay-Dee 797;b-side]

The Hawks - Why Oh Why [Post 2004]

The Debs - Whadaya Want? [Bruce 129;b-side]

Sonny Fisher - Hey Mamma [Starday 190]

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 05:20:08 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

Today......from 1955

Geoff's Playlist (10 sides): https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=_cltodegtKU,J8jHyJA860c,nyck2j8qTnQ,0lMw2N1l-h8,YRfkBG9Aoko,FrLMRs5he4E,E_81Nmbfz4A,AwL01Z9nBYc,xrhnduSYx1o,8xP9ZXgBx_4,

Blues Rockers - Calling All Cows [Excello 2062 A;;Nashville] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cltodegtKU
The band was based in Chicago; song's lead vocal was Earl Dranes.
The record was made in a store-front, Randy's Record Shop, with
�Lazy� Bill Lucas on piano, Earl Dranes and Joseph "JoJo" Williams
on guitar, P.T.Hayes on harmonica; stand-up bass and percussion
were played by local white boys (studio musicians).
Here is a long (10 typed pages) and very interesting interview
with �Lazy� Bill Lucas which covers his career, and the black
music scene in Chicago from 1941 onwards: https://sundayblues.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/lazybill.pdf
(during this interview, Lucas, black, mentioned that rock'n'roll
did not start in Chicago until the mid fifties :-)

Oscar McLollie and His "Honeyjumpers" - Roll Hot Rod Roll [Modern 970] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jHyJA860c
Baritone singer / orchestra leader Oscar McLollie was one of the
missing links between jump blues and rock 'n' roll.
After the war, he made his way to Los Angeles, where he would make
all of his recordings.
His up-tempo sides for Modern are on 2003 CD Hey! Lollie Lollie.

Donna Hightower w. Maxwell Davis & Orch - Right Now [RPM 445;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyck2j8qTnQ
based in Chicago, Donna Hightower began recording in 1951 for Decca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Hightower

Mercy Dee - Romp & Stomp Blues [Flair 1073;;Culver City CA] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lMw2N1l-h8
this man was Texas-born Mercy Walton who had settled in
California before 1949
discography: https://www.wirz.de/music/waltonmd.htm

The Hurricanes - Pistol Packin' Mama [King 4817] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRfkBG9Aoko
mostly from Brooklyn NYC; song led by tenor Henry Alston
https://www.uncamarvy.com/Hurricanes/hurricanes.html

The Sparks Of Rhythm, aka The Berliners - Woman, Woman, Woman [Apollo
479]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLMRs5he4E
from Brooklyn NYC
lead shared by tenor Jimmy Jones and bass Andrew Barksdale
https://www.uncamarvy.com/JimmyJones/jimmyjones.html

The Mellows f. Lillian Leach - Pretty Baby, What's Your Name? [Jay-Dee 797;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_81Nmbfz4A
one of many groups from the Morrisania section of the Bronx, NYC;
lead, Norman Brown
https://www.uncamarvy.com/Mellows/mellows.html

The Hawks - Why Oh Why [Post 2004 {sub. of Imperial}] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwL01Z9nBYc
from New Orleans; lead was Willie Thrower;
https://www.uncamarvy.com/Hawks/hawks.html
"Put together by bandleader Dave Bartholomew in Dec 1953, they
were the melding of a young soloist, Allen "Fat Man" Matthews,
and a much older gospel quartet, The Humming Four."

The Debs - Whadaya Want? [Bruce 129;b-side;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrhnduSYx1o
from Austin TX High School-Joyce Webb, Eva Maxey and Joan Zobel;
"Go Sam, Rock It Sam..." - Sam (The Man) Taylor on sax;
composed by Leiber & Stoller;
the original version of this song was by the Robins;
Joyce Web sang background doo wop on The Slades "You Cheated":
https://www.discogs.com/artist/2041071-Joyce-Webb

Sonny Fisher - Hey Mamma [Starday 190] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xP9ZXgBx_4
from Houston TX; with Joey Long (Joseph Earl Longoria) on guitar;
to some, Joey was the godfather of 'white blues' guitar playing
and he was the first non-black blues musician to play with black
blues bands in the Texas area; Leonard Curry was on bass, and
Darrell Newsome was on drums.

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On Fri, 17 May 2024 05:20:08 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
wrote:

Today......from 1955

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=Ig1sft8rf_c,gTqNFxN0uhw,EpijIvS93pg,9LVDGauWlGg,5Vl0PcBW0SM,BWTxRaqPiyg,atod5hzyXs4,lW-x-Fts7Kw,Gjxb3Z6aAW4,Ua5KxjAd3ys,yVD9RQQkq-g,

Charlie Brown and his Cisco Kids - Have You Heard The Gossip
[Rose 102;b-side;Cisco TX]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig1sft8rf_c
similar to Elvis' version of Good Rocking Tonight;
and similar to Johnny Burnette's *later* Tear It Up
the traditional rockabilly sound with only upright bass & guitars

The Cardinals - Misirlou [Atlantic 1054; b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTqNFxN0uhw
"It's amazing how good this Cardinals version is, and how such
little recognition this version ever received"

The Barons - My Dream, My Love [Imperial X5359] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpijIvS93pg
from the great Pacific Northwest in Tacoma, Washington;
they were all members of the choir at Bethlehem Baptist Church
and also students at Lincoln High School in that city;
William/Billy Gold (lead), George Bonney (bass), Andrew Fisher
(second tenor) and Danny (baritone);
and for me, notable and appealing chiming piano

Alvadean Coker and The Cokers - We're Gonna Bop [Abbott
176;;Hollywood]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LVDGauWlGg
with father Alvis Coker (gtr), mother Geraldine Coker (bass), sister
Linda Coker (piano), brother Alvis "Sandy" Coker jr. (fiddle);
born Alvidine (Dina) Coker in Bakersfield CA on Oct 25, 1938;
started performing at 5 years of age;
regular on Town Hall Party
https://www.farewell.com/obituary/alvidine-baptista

Annisteen Allen - Fujiyama Mama [Capitol F3048] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vl0PcBW0SM
written by 14-year old Jack Hammer, then still operating under his
real name, Earl Burrows; Annisteen's version inexplicably failed
to chart.

Frank Motley & His Crew - Honkin' At Midnight [Big Town 119] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTxRaqPiyg
the interchange is between Angel Face (Elsie Mae Jones b.1930, a
singer from New Orleans) and Motley's pianist, Jimmy Crawford;
because it's so danceable it's been played in the UK Northern Soul
scene

Ben Hall and The Country Drifters - Moo Mama [Cord 101;;Vernon TX] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atod5hzyXs4

Billy (The Kid) Emerson - Move Baby Move [Sun 214] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW-x-Fts7Kw
yeah, let's Shake Rattle & Roll - irresistibly rhythmic
Billy Emerson - Vocal and Piano
Bennie Moore - Tenor Saxophone
Luther Taylor - Alto Saxophone
Charles Smith - Trumpet
Elven Parr - Guitar
Robert Prindell - Drums {not crisply recorded, hand claps helped}

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

Anne Shelton w. Geoff Love AHO - Arrivederci Darling [UK HMV POP 146] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD9RQQkq-g
"Anne excelled at these yearning ballads"

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RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

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On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Bruce, you weren't even alive in 1955 so how do you know
that it wasn't an obscurity at that time?
This b-side did not chart in 1955 to the best of my knowledge.

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RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

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On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

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RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

You're still NOT correct since January 1st 1956 was a SUNDAY!!! LOL!!

Okay...first off I have two versions each of "Blue Suede Shoes" and
"Honey Don't" recorded at a Sun Records session December17/18 1955

Carl Perkins himself told us that the "Blue Suede Shoes" single was
released first week in January 1956

I believe the precise release date to be January 5 1956 in line with the
date given by Peter Guralnick in his excellent Sam Phillips biography
also Colin Escott's date in his Sun writings .

Sam Phillips sent advance copies to several local deejays including
Dewey Phillips so the song was quite well known by many listeners prior
to its official release date

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Roger wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

You're still NOT correct since January 1st 1956 was a SUNDAY!!! LOL!!

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first day
that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

There were stores here that sold records that were open on Sundays in
places like Newark. Depending upon your idea of what determines that day
of release, it could be on a Sunday.

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On Tue, 21 May 2024 21:07:22 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first day
that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

Or when a promotional copy is given out to one or more DJs?

Notwithstanding Roger's chosen evidence, you would think that by
now, considering the fame and significance of the a-side, that
45cat.com would have it right (meaning the release date would
have been corrected or a comment made):
https://www.45cat.com/record/234us

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

You're still NOT correct since January 1st 1956 was a SUNDAY!!! LOL!!

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first
day
that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

Firstly i was joking about the Sunday release date but on a more serious
note I don't believe that a tiny hole-in-the-wall record company like
Sun was at that time ---with its very limited staff and resources---
would choose a Sunday as a release day for what was already seen as an important record (with advance copies already sent to local deejays and
thus presumably already generating orders on the record )

As to the "release day" itself I believe it's the day the company
chooses to begin making said release available to the outside world.

I'd go with the first day copies are shipped to those waiting
distributors and other sales points

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Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

You're still NOT correct since January 1st 1956 was a SUNDAY!!! LOL!!

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first
day
that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

Firstly i was joking about the Sunday release date but on a more
serious
note I don't believe that a tiny hole-in-the-wall record company like
Sun was at that time ---with its very limited staff and resources---
would choose a Sunday as a release day for what was already seen as an important record (with advance copies already sent to local deejays and
thus presumably already generating orders on the record )

As to the "release day" itself I believe it's the day the company
chooses to begin making said release available to the outside world.

I'd go with the first day copies are shipped to those waiting
distributors and other sales points

You seem to have changed on this. I think last time I asked you this you
said it was the first day that the record was available to be bought in
a store. Either way we can never really be able to pin this down to the
exact day, which is problematic for records reviewed in the 2nd, third,
and 4th weeks of January. For instance, I have "Upside Your Head" as
1955, but it easily could have been 1954 with whatever your definition
of what "released" means playing a big part. The record could be mailed
to distributors on Dec 30, and not arrive until Jan 2 or later with Jan
1 being a holiday.

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 16:58:11 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 14:46:34 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote: >>>>>>

RWC wrote:

Geoff's list of 'obscure' (in 1955) faves, Vol 2:

Carl Perkins - Honey, Don't! [Sun 234;b-side]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjxb3Z6aAW4
Carl Perkins - Vocal and Lead Guitar
Jay Perkins - Acoustic Guitar and Backing Vocals
Clayton Perkins - Stand-up Bass
W.S. Holland - Drums
Bonus: Live from Ozark Jubilee March 17, Springfield MO, 1956 >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5KxjAd3ys

"Honey Don't" is not an obscurity, and this is not from 1955.

It was recorded in 1955, and released in Dec 1955.

Sorry, not released until 1956. Reviewed Jan 21, 1956 in BB.

Released on Jan 1, 1956 apparently. So I was just 1 day away
from being correct.

You're still NOT correct since January 1st 1956 was a SUNDAY!!! LOL!!

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first
day
that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

Firstly i was joking about the Sunday release date but on a more
serious
note I don't believe that a tiny hole-in-the-wall record company like
Sun was at that time ---with its very limited staff and resources---
would choose a Sunday as a release day for what was already seen as an
important record (with advance copies already sent to local deejays and
thus presumably already generating orders on the record )

As to the "release day" itself I believe it's the day the company
chooses to begin making said release available to the outside world.

I'd go with the first day copies are shipped to those waiting
distributors and other sales points

You seem to have changed on this. I think last time I asked you this
you
said it was the first day that the record was available to be bought in
a store.

Yes,I recall that too---but that is not very much different from what I
am saying now namely that its the day when the record is finally made
available in bulk to folk outside the record company and the pressing
plant

Either way we can never really be able to pin this down to the

exact day, which is problematic for records reviewed in the 2nd, third,
and 4th weeks of January. For instance, I have "Upside Your Head" as
1955, but it easily could have been 1954 with whatever your definition
of what "released" means playing a big part. The record could be mailed
to distributors on Dec 30, and not arrive until Jan 2 or later with Jan
1 being a holiday.

All very true and all very headache inducing :)

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RWC wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2024 21:07:22 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

What determines a release date?

Is it released the first day that the label gets copies, or the first
day that they start shipping copies, or the first day that the
distributors and big stores get the copies that the label shipped, or
the first day that the first store has copies for sale, or the first day >>that the first jukebox operator receives copies, or the first day that
it is placed in a jukebox, or what?

Or when a promotional copy is given out to one or more DJs?

Notwithstanding Roger's chosen evidence, you would think that by
now, considering the fame and significance of the a-side, that
45cat.com would have it right (meaning the release date would
have been corrected or a comment made):
https://www.45cat.com/record/234us

This isn't the first time I've seen a 45cat date entry that is
incorrect

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