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  • RARE but GOOD: An Angel Is Missing - Ronnie & Red Caps - 1960

    From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 18 17:55:18 2024
    Ronnie Dio {Italian; Cortland NY} And The Red Caps - An Angel is
    Missing [Seneca 178-102 A;;Syracuse NY] - 1960

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8Z_aiCu6I

    there are 9+ postings of this record on YouTube but it is rare
    nevertheless - a fact partly supported by Geoff having no copies in
    his digital collection and none of the postings (according to
    snippets) have very good audio quality

    a posting of this record by "ray315kid" has had 707,000 views, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew8MUT00aK0

    Born Ronald James Padavona in 1942, Ronnie later became more
    famous as a heavy metal singer with Black Sabbath ("Heaven and Hell"
    album in 1980) and with Dio ("Holy Diver" album in 1983). Over time
    Ronnie played in many bands and is considered to be one of rocks
    greatest ever vocalists. Ronnie James Dio BIO: https://www.syracuse.com/celebrity-news/2021/07/ronnie-james-dio-autobiography-chronicles-his-life-from-cortland-trumpeter-to-international-rock-star.html

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 18 22:19:57 2024
    It's not good, it's horrid teen idol type shit. And nobody around here cares about his heavy metal days.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Mar 18 21:10:27 2024
    On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:19:57 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    It's not good, it's horrid teen idol type shit.

    Middle-America would likely disagree with you, Bruce.

    What does harmony fan Bill think?
    What does Jim think?
    ...

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Tue Mar 19 04:26:17 2024
    RWC wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:19:57 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    It's not good, it's horrid teen idol type shit.

    Middle-America would likely disagree with you, Bruce.

    What does harmony fan Bill think?
    What does Jim think?

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Tue Mar 19 08:34:20 2024
    RWC wrote:


    Ronnie Dio {Italian; Cortland NY} And The Red Caps - An Angel is
    Missing [Seneca 178-102 A;;Syracuse NY] - 1960

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8Z_aiCu6I

    there are 9+ postings of this record on YouTube but it is rare
    nevertheless - a fact partly supported by Geoff having no copies in
    his digital collection and none of the postings (according to
    snippets) have very good audio quality

    a posting of this record by "ray315kid" has had 707,000 views, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew8MUT00aK0

    Born Ronald James Padavona in 1942, Ronnie later became more
    famous as a heavy metal singer with Black Sabbath ("Heaven and Hell"
    album in 1980) and with Dio ("Holy Diver" album in 1983). Over time
    Ronnie played in many bands and is considered to be one of rocks
    greatest ever vocalists. Ronnie James Dio BIO: https://www.syracuse.com/celebrity-news/2021/07/ronnie-james-dio-autobiography-chronicles-his-life-from-cortland-trumpeter-to-international-rock-star.html

    Firstly I don't like it at all - just ordinary teen shlock that I'd never play a second time

    Secondly it can't be near as rare as you say since I've seen copies several times at different locations during various US trips

    Thirdly the "What'd I Say" on the flip is every bit as dire as someone who hasn't heard it might imagine

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  • From Jim Colegrove@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Mar 19 06:53:07 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:26:17 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:19:57 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    It's not good, it's horrid teen idol type shit.

    Middle-America would likely disagree with you, Bruce.

    What does harmony fan Bill think?
    What does Jim think?

    Not so hot.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Mar 19 15:08:56 2024
    Roger wrote:

    Thirdly the "What'd I Say" on the flip is every bit as dire as someone who hasn't heard it might imagine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXToYxaxKqg

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Mar 19 17:14:21 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:53:07 -0500, Jim Colegrove
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:26:17 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:19:57 +0000, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

    It's not good, it's horrid teen idol type shit.

    Middle-America would likely disagree with you, Bruce.

    What does harmony fan Bill think?
    What does Jim think?

    Not so hot.

    Thanks. But that doesn't necessarily mean you think it's horrible.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 19 17:31:46 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 08:34:20 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
    wrote:

    RWC wrote:


    Ronnie Dio {Italian; Cortland NY} And The Red Caps - An Angel is
    Missing [Seneca 178-102 A;;Syracuse NY] - 1960

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8Z_aiCu6I

    Firstly I don't like it at all - just ordinary teen shlock that I'd never play a second time

    Secondly it can't be near as rare as you say since I've seen copies several times at different locations during various US trips

    How did it chart?
    I'd like to hear a VG 45 or CD studio copy and compare with YT
    postings. Perhaps the Seneca label issued 45s with suspect audio
    quality?

    Thirdly the "What'd I Say" on the flip is every bit as dire as someone who hasn't heard it might imagine

    I haven't even attempted to hear this. I've presumed it's the RC song
    which I'm not keen on - I do very much like some of RC's other sides
    (eg Lonely Avenue).

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 19 19:23:12 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 08:34:20 +0000, [email protected] (Roger)
    wrote:

    RWC wrote:


    Ronnie Dio {Italian; Cortland NY} And The Red Caps - An Angel is
    Missing [Seneca 178-102 A;;Syracuse NY] - 1960

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8Z_aiCu6I

    Firstly I don't like it at all - just ordinary teen shlock that I'd never play a second time

    Roger, imo it's not ordinary, yet alone shlock - a word of Yiddish
    origin no doubt aimed at impressing your decades long pals Bruce,
    Diane, and Mark.

    Among countless teen cusp records, "An Angel is Missing" is not just
    GOOD, it's relatively GREAT :-)

    Roger, your tastes are influenced by your background - semi-black
    working-class - meaning you just don't relate to the musical tastes of
    white folk with a middle-class upbringing who can afford the luxury of
    being 'idealistically dreamy' when listening to music.

    In "An Angel is Missing" it's ethereal dreaminess is greatly advanced
    by that background female chorus.

    By the way, from what I gather from history, it was mainly young men
    from the Brit middle-class who bravely piloted the Spitfires and
    Hurricanes that defeated the German Luftwaffe in The Battle Of Britain
    in World War II. (Yes, there were also many brave pilots from allied
    nations, eg Poles, in the RAF at the same time).
    What I'm suggesting, is that many of these fighter pilots would have
    liked "An Angel is Missing", so to speak.

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