• Re: Update from Dr. Jonathan Reed

    From IYN@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 25 11:40:59 2022
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to IYN on Sat Aug 13 00:44:59 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

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  • From Matt Faunce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 13 18:52:44 2022
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case


    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
    shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 13 23:55:24 2022
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
    their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

    Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles. If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms
    that humans can relate to, I can't disagree. Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.
    Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one. In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed
    off 90% of the population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own. Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

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  • From Matt Faunce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 14 16:44:47 2022
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human >> shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator
    shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
    their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

    Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
    hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.


    Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual advancement which allows the rising above it all.

    If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
    humans can relate to, I can't disagree.


    In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
    to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.

    Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.


    Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
    in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
    there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
    physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
    beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.

    Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
    interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.


    Good point. https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
    Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.

    In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
    population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over
    the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.


    It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
    Colorado River winning in the long run.

    Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM


    Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.

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    Matt

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 14 13:05:16 2022
    On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
    shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator >> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
    their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

    Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.

    Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual advancement which allows the rising above it all.
    If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that humans can relate to, I can't disagree.

    In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
    which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.
    Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.

    Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at, in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
    physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
    Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.

    Good point. https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
    Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
    In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.

    It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
    the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the Colorado River winning in the long run.
    Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

    Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.

    --
    Matt

    As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.

    https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg

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  • From Steven Bornfeld@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 21 21:28:16 2022
    On 8/14/2022 4:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
    shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator >>>> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
    their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

    Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate >>> their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to
    hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.

    Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP >> advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
    advancement which allows the rising above it all.
    If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that
    humans can relate to, I can't disagree.

    In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical >> extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies >> to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s >> impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The
    common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
    which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand >> himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world. >>> Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The >>> most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.

    Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
    Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at, >> in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that
    there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
    physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
    beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
    Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
    interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an >>> advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.

    Good point.
    https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
    Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
    In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
    population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over >>> the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.

    It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people >> aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
    “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
    the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
    Colorado River winning in the long run.
    Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

    Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.

    --
    Matt

    As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.

    https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg

    LOL!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Steven Bornfeld on Mon Aug 22 03:15:59 2022
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 3:28:23 PM UTC-10, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
    On 8/14/2022 4:05 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    On Sunday, August 14, 2022 at 6:44:50 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM UTC-10, [email protected] wrote:
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:41:01 AM UTC-10, IYN wrote:
    Some of the video interviews with Dr. Jonathan Reed have been taken down from youtube.
    There are only really bad quality ones left.
    I've been wondering what is his current situation today?

    https://extraterrestrials.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Case

    Isn’t it quite an extraordinary coincidence that space aliens have a human
    shape to them rather than, for example, elephant, giraffe, or alligator >>>> shape. It’s probably because elephants, giraffes, and alligators don’t have
    their own CIA to plant such bullshit in their minds.

    --
    Matt

    Technologically advanced beings require a body that's able to manipulate >>> their environment to a high degree. That requires body parts similar to >>> hands or, I suppose, octopus-like tentacles.

    Advancement is more than mere technological advancement. There might be ESP
    advancement, morphic-resonance advancement, or some sort of spiritual
    advancement which allows the rising above it all.
    If you're saying that it is vanity that shapes aliens into forms that >>> humans can relate to, I can't disagree.

    In general, it’s anthropomorphism. Vanity certainly drives it to comical
    extremes, but really, we can’t escape anthropomorphism: drawing analogies
    to ourselves is how we think; it’s how we merely recognize things; it’s
    impossible to conceive of something that has no analogy to ourselves. The >> common meaning of ‘anthropomorphism’ is ‘analogous to the aspects of man
    which even morons recognize.’ The intellectual’s goal is to understand
    himself in more and more different ways, and thereby understand the world.
    Of course, being technologically advanced is not important in nature. The
    most successful species on Earth are probably horseshoe crabs.

    Hmmm. But nature also evolves. Horseshoe crabs might have chosen, in a
    Lamarkian way, or luckily happened upon, in a Darwinian way, or arrived at,
    in both ways, a very stable form, but can it evolve? I’m convinced that >> there will be a species of nature that will evolve, mentally and
    physically, way beyond where humans are now, who will create a truly
    beneficial new-world order. My money is on fungi.
    Of more importance, I think, is that fact that it wouldn't be in our
    interest to have aliens making contact. We all know what happens when an >>> advanced civilization meets a primitive, less powerful, one.

    Good point.
    https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/mans-face-erupts-in-nasty-pustules-after-catching-deadly-fungal-infection/
    Maybe evolved tardigrades will be more beneficent.
    In the case of the Hawaiians, the newcomers killed off 90% of the
    population. Then they tried to wipe out the native culture and took over >>> the Kingdom of Hawaii as their own.

    It’s a shame that peaceful co-existence and learning from different people
    aren’t valued by powerful people. But, then again, I see so-called
    “powerful people” like I see the Hoover Dam, and the weak masses are like
    the gentle, trickling water of the Colorado River. My money is on the
    Colorado River winning in the long run.
    Then, Mark Zuckerberg came to the islands and kicked the Hawaiians off their land.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

    Ah ha. You went full circle back to a humanoid space alien. Good form.

    --
    Matt

    As we all know, the alien DNA code-duplication technology isn't perfect. That's about as close to human as they can get at the moment.

    https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5d41c7688df537000832361b/4:3/w_2668,h_2001,c_limit/GettyImages-945005812.jpg
    LOL!

    It's not cool to make fun of a person's appearance but Mr. Z's been mistreating the Hawaiians by kicking them off their small patches of land so I got all the rights to make fun of his funny lookin' head. Forgive me, Jesus!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

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