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  • Re: Usenet being discontinued, Leslie fish, and icey people

    From Gary R. Schmidt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 16:58:43 2024
    On 30/01/2024 14:54, Spear Carrier (Spearcarrier) wrote:
    So what does that mean for everyone here exactly? Should a new list be started? (I'm for that, because reddit is kind of meh.) I like getting notices from this place, dang it.

    [SNIP]

    Usenet is *not* being discontinued, the NNTP gateway to and from
    GoogleGroups is being switched off, that is all.

    Normal Usenet will continue as usual, but with much, much less SPAM.
    (About 85% of the traffic to my NNTP server is googleSPAM at the moment,
    life will get much better soon. :-) )

    To continue using Usenet, find a Usenet/NNTP server, either free or
    paid, and install a Usenet/NNTP client on your computer(s).

    Google is your friend. (Oh, the irony. :-) )

    Cheers,
    Gary B-)

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Gary R. Schmidt on Tue Jan 30 06:06:21 2024
    On 1/30/24 12:58 AM, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
    Usenet is *not* being discontinued, the NNTP gateway to and from
    GoogleGroups is being switched off, that is all.

    Confirmed. All kinds of rumors happen on the Internet, not all of them
    are true. Usenet will continue to exist as long as there are servers and
    client apps to support it. There's no authority that can make it stop happening. Even if it were outlawed, it would continue surreptitiously.

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Tim Merrigan@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 11:34:46 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 06:06:21 -0500, Gary McGath <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Even if it were outlawed, it would continue surreptitiously.

    Suggested alternative: "Even where it's outlawed, it continues surreptitiously."

    The great cyberwall of China comes to mind.
    --

    Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.

    Tim Merrigan

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jan 31 00:07:12 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Spear Carrier (Spearcarrier) <[email protected]> wrote:
    So what does that mean for everyone here exactly? Should a new list be star= >ted? (I'm for that, because reddit is kind of meh.) I like getting notices=
    from this place, dang it.

    It means if you're using Google Groups's abominable interface to Usenet,
    you should get off and get onto a legitimate and competently-run Usenet
    server like everybody has been telling Google users to do for the past
    twenty years.

    Usenet is in no way going away. Thank God that Google Groups is getting disconnected from it.
    --scott


    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Rich Brown@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 11:30:03 2024
    One way to continue on USENET is to create an account at www.eternal-september.org (tho throwing them a donation wouldn't hurt).
    Mozilla Thunderbird makes it tolerably easy to add newsgroups - so, for example, when I have my email open I see if there are new messages in rec.music.filk.

    On 1/31/24 09:20, Spear Carrier (Spearcarrier) wrote:

    Well I do have an article open about how to do it, but will I be able to that's the question. On the bright side, the filk community (what's left of it anyway) would hardly miss me if I can't keep up. =^-^= But so far all I've found is a bunch of
    articles about its history and what it is. Nothing simple, to the point, that says, "here how you use it to keep up with the google group." Oh well.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 17:00:22 2024
    On 1/31/24 10:20 AM, Spear Carrier (Spearcarrier) wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-6, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    It means if you're using Google Groups's abominable interface to Usenet,
    you should get off and get onto a legitimate and competently-run Usenet
    server like everybody has been telling Google users to do for the past
    twenty years.

    Well I do have an article open about how to do it, but will I be able to that's the question. On the bright side, the filk community (what's left of it anyway) would hardly miss me if I can't keep up. =^-^= But so far all I've found is a bunch of
    articles about its history and what it is. Nothing simple, to the point, that says, "here how you use it to keep up with the google group." Oh well.

    To give an idea of what it's like: Today I got both a phone message and
    email from Panix, warning me that I had to fix some DNS authentication
    records to reduce the chances of the MASSFILC mailing lists being
    blocked by Google. Excellent service, but the information was in terms
    which might not make sense to a non-technical person (adding TXT
    records). As I'm writing this, a follow-up email has just shown up in my mailbox.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 11 16:01:27 2024
    Spear Carrier (Spearcarrier) <[email protected]> wrote:
    at's the question. On the bright side, the filk community (what's left of i= >t anyway) would hardly miss me if I can't keep up. =3D^-^=3D But so far all=
    I've found is a bunch of articles about its history and what it is. Nothin=
    g simple, to the point, that says, "here how you use it to keep up with the=
    google group." Oh well.

    https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

    Is a reasonable tutorial. If you like web-based access instead of
    standard nntp, you might consider Nova BBS.

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/thread.php?group=rec.music.filk
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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