• Re: Daaaaaaamn!

    From sticks@21:1/5 to Snag on Tue Dec 6 19:11:35 2022
    On 12/6/2022 6:59 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 12/6/2022 6:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit


      Hooooooollllleeeee shhhiiiiittt !

    Hard to believe, but the bikes are now up 1-0

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 17:36:26 2022
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Tue Dec 6 18:59:22 2022
    On 12/6/2022 6:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit


    Hooooooollllleeeee shhhiiiiittt !
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  • From Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Wed Dec 7 08:29:29 2022
    On 12/6/2022 6:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit


    Damn is right! The biker was asking for trouble by kicking the car even
    if he had a good reason to be mad, and the car driver was an idiot. I
    feel bad for the poor guy in the white pickup. He was just heading to
    work, "mindin' his own bidness."

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  • From DeathGrip@21:1/5 to Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous on Wed Dec 7 09:47:23 2022
    On 12/7/22 6:29 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit

    Damn is right! The biker was asking for trouble by kicking the car
    even if he had a good reason to be mad, and the car driver was an
    idiot. I feel bad for the poor guy in the white pickup. He was just
    heading to work, "mindin' his own bidness."

    As a motorcyclist with a few hundred K of riding under my belt, I would
    be curious to see what led up to the biker's action. Still, the
    motorcyclist's action was vandalism while the driver's action could be classified as at least assault if not attempted murder. And yes, the
    pickup truck was an innocent "bystander" being at wrong place at the
    wrong time.

    - Bruce

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Wed Dec 7 11:30:07 2022
    On 12/6/2022 5:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit


    I wonder if an electrical cut out saved that fireball from becoming a
    full on inferno.

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  • From Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous@21:1/5 to DeathGrip on Thu Dec 8 07:34:34 2022
    On 12/7/2022 11:47 AM, DeathGrip wrote:
    On 12/7/22 6:29 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit

    Damn is right! The biker was asking for trouble by kicking the car
    even if he had a good reason to be mad, and the car driver was an
    idiot. I feel bad for the poor guy in the white pickup. He was just
    heading to work, "mindin' his own bidness."

    As a motorcyclist with a few hundred K of riding under my belt, I would
    be curious to see what led up to the biker's action.

    Good point! Ya'd think that a biker who has ridden much at all would
    know that if you kick a car you're going to put yourself at great risk
    of becoming unstable and going down. He must have been quite angry at
    the guy to take that chance.

    < Still, the motorcyclist's action was vandalism

    (getting technical and splitting hairs here.)

    Legally, the biker's action would be criminal damage to property.
    (scratching the paint, dent the fender, etc.) Vandalism is considered
    more "mischief" than property damage. (TP-ing a house or soaping
    windows, etc.) At least here in Kansas that is the law. I'm sure other
    states are very similar.

    while the driver's action could be
    classified as at least assault if not attempted murder.

    Correct. The car driver's actions would be at least aggravated assault. *Simple* assault = "The threat or attempt to do bodily harm to another,
    coupled with apparent ability and with immediate apprehension on part of
    the victim." Agg assault is done with a deadly weapon (a car is most
    definitely a deadly weapon!) and/or while concealing identity, or with
    intent to commit a felony.

    Depending on the prosecutor, it could be bumped up to agg battery.
    Battery = "Unlawful, intentional touching or application of force done
    to another in a rude, insolent or angry manner." Add the deadly weapon
    (car) and you have agg battery. I'm betting that would be what they'd go
    with in court, IMHO.

    And yes, the
    pickup truck was an innocent "bystander" being at wrong place at the
    wrong time.

    - Bruce

    Road rage is such a stupid thing. I've been involved in a couple very
    minor road rage incidents...one of which I, myself, stupidly initiated
    many years ago in my "ute"...but nothing like the video. I don't even
    flip off people or honk my horn at 'em anymore. I just memorize the
    license plate and car description. Ya never know when you might see that
    car in a parking lot someday!

    Andy

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous on Thu Dec 8 12:18:35 2022
    On 12/8/2022 6:34 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    On 12/7/2022 11:47 AM, DeathGrip wrote:
    On 12/7/22 6:29 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit

    Damn is right! The biker was asking for trouble by kicking the car
    even if he had a good reason to be mad, and the car driver was an
    idiot. I feel bad for the poor guy in the white pickup. He was just
    heading to work, "mindin' his own bidness."

    As a motorcyclist with a few hundred K of riding under my belt, I
    would be curious to see what led up to the biker's action.

    Good point! Ya'd think that a biker who has ridden much at all would
    know that if you kick a car you're going to put yourself at great risk
    of becoming unstable and going down. He must have been quite angry at
    the guy to take that chance.

    < Still, the motorcyclist's action was vandalism

    (getting technical and splitting hairs here.)

    Legally, the biker's action would be criminal damage to property.
    (scratching the paint, dent the fender, etc.) Vandalism is considered
    more "mischief" than property damage. (TP-ing a house or soaping
    windows, etc.) At least here in Kansas that is the law. I'm sure other
    states are very similar.

    while the driver's action could be classified as at least assault if
    not attempted murder.

    Correct. The car driver's actions would be at least aggravated assault. *Simple* assault = "The threat or attempt to do bodily harm to another, coupled with apparent ability and with immediate apprehension on part of
    the victim." Agg assault is done with a deadly weapon (a car is most definitely a deadly weapon!) and/or while concealing identity, or with
    intent to commit a felony.

    Depending on the prosecutor, it could be bumped up to agg battery.
    Battery = "Unlawful, intentional touching or application of force done
    to another in a rude, insolent or angry manner." Add the deadly weapon
    (car) and you have agg battery. I'm betting that would be what they'd go
    with in court, IMHO.

    And yes, the pickup truck was an innocent "bystander" being at wrong
    place at the wrong time.

    - Bruce

    Road rage is such a stupid thing. I've been involved in a couple very
    minor road rage incidents...one of which I, myself, stupidly initiated
    many years ago in my "ute"...but nothing like the video. I don't even
    flip off people or honk my horn at 'em anymore. I just memorize the
    license plate and car description. Ya never know when you might see that
    car in a parking lot someday!

    Andy



    I once had a guy run me into oncoming traffic, which I was able to
    avoid. I called him an asshole and then I followed the guy intending to
    at the least give him a verbal lashing (yeah sure that's what I had in
    mind). He saw me following him and drove directly to the local
    sheriff's office where we had a polite conversation in the parking lot.
    I was so amused at his tactic by the time we stopped I wasn't mad any
    more. He did piss me off a little when he said he didn't feel he
    deserved to be sworn at. I did call him an asshole when he forced me
    out of my lane which he certainly heard through his open window. I
    pointed out that offensive language is a mild rebuke for attempted
    homicide. He agreed to watch for motorcycles, and I agreed to limit
    myself to calling thoughtless drivers assholes unless I was actually
    injured. We shook hands and parted ways.

    I already told the story in this group about the truck driver who
    bullseyed me in the forehead with a cigar on the freeway many years ago.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Dec 8 14:51:51 2022
    On 12/8/2022 1:18 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I already told the story in this group about the truck driver who
    bullseyed me in the forehead with a cigar on the freeway many years ago.

    Reminds me of a winter ride I did over 40 years ago. Was on the big
    road trying to make some time and was just freezing my ass off and
    fighting the stiff crosswinds. Decided to tuck in behind a semi and
    ride in his slip stream for awhile. He was making good time, and it
    really made the riding doable, at least I thought so at the time.

    The driver switched lanes into the left lane even though no one around.
    I stayed tucked in and behind him. Then we passed, and I saw, a pallet
    laying in the middle of the other lane we had been in. He could have
    easily split it with his rig, but he knew I was back there and I guess
    felt sorry for me. It would have been ugly if I had gone over that, and
    that day truck drivers were my heroes. I pulled along side him after he
    pulled back into the right lane and gave him a nod and a wave letting
    him know I realized what he had done and appreciated it. I then got
    behind him, way behind him, and have never done that again.

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  • From Rick Begeman@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Feb 20 20:28:27 2023
    On 12/6/22 4:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Hopefully you can see the clip without logging on.

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/493447105932437/?s=single_unit


    No NO NO
    You can't pace the car when you kick their mirror off,
    you perform this whilst overtaking.
    Thus leaving you (somewhat) clearer from retaliation.

    I've pulled up beside someone and banged on his window (because he's
    half way in my lane) to get him off his phone, and I was the bad guy?

    --
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Feb 24 11:39:24 2023
    On 12/8/2022 1:51 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/8/2022 1:18 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I already told the story in this group about the truck driver who
    bullseyed me in the forehead with a cigar on the freeway many years ago.

    Reminds me of a winter ride I did over 40 years ago.  Was on the big
    road trying to make some time and was just freezing my ass off and
    fighting the stiff crosswinds.  Decided to tuck in behind a semi and
    ride in his slip stream for awhile.  He was making good time, and it
    really made the riding doable, at least I thought so at the time.

    The driver switched lanes into the left lane even though no one around.
    I stayed tucked in and behind him.  Then we passed, and I saw, a pallet laying in the middle of the other lane we had been in.  He could have
    easily split it with his rig, but he knew I was back there and I guess
    felt sorry for me.  It would have been ugly if I had gone over that, and that day truck drivers were my heroes.  I pulled along side him after he pulled back into the right lane and gave him a nod and a wave letting
    him know I realized what he had done and appreciated it.  I then got
    behind him, way behind him, and have never done that again.


    That would have been a pretty tough one to ride through, but that's what
    you would have had to do if it happened. I hit a pretty good size rock softball size maybe) on a curve once running up the Ca side of the river
    in the Parker area once. I had a passenger and I was more worried for
    her than me. We hit the rock, and the front wheel wobbled pretty badly.
    I just did the loose guide like when you blow a tire, and it self
    corrected. We road it out "almost" like it was nothing. I might have
    been running 50 mph.

    Another time I took a morning dove bird strike on the sole of my boot
    running about 50, maybe on Baseline or one of those other country/city
    roads in the Tempe/Mesa/Apache Junction area. Took my foot right off
    the peg. My biggest worry for a fraction of a second was not slapping
    my foot on the road, and then I just set it back on the peg and road on
    like it was nothing. I didn't realize how hard that strike was until I
    got off and put weight on that foot. It wasn't broken, but I had to
    walk around for 20 minutes or so for the soreness to let off. I'm not
    sure the young lady on the back that time even knew I'd hit anything.
    She looked at me funny when she saw me favoring my foot.

    Those were in my pre-Harley days on a much lighter motorcycle. VT500C
    if I recall. The only thing I hit with my Harleys were trucks.

    Neither of those would compare to hitting a pallet, but I'd bet if you
    did a forced loosen up and ride there would be a 50/50 chance of riding
    through it. Then again maybe not at 70/75MPH. At that point all you
    can do is treat it like a wild horse and try to guide it in the right direction.

    P.S. I'm one of those idiots who stops and drags shit like that off the
    road or calls local PD if in town. Speaking of such... One day on 32nd
    street (US80) in my work truck I noted somebody had lost a brand new
    bath tub in the center lane approaching a major intersection. I could
    imagine somebody hitting it thinking it was just a box. I called
    PD/Fire dispatch and let them know it was a hazard in the road. I had
    to tell the dispatcher five times because she wouldn't believe me.
    Finally I said, "You know what. I did the right thing and called you.
    Now if anybody gets hurt its on you," and hung up. It was gone when I
    came back 30 minutes later. Hopefully the person who lost it got it.


    --
    Bob La Londe
    Proffessional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a
    real machinist


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