• Checking air in tires

    From Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 07:42:20 2022
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and knees
    to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold, both
    stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I heard what
    must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful beam of light
    from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the priest. He was
    impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two* miracles for
    sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was the
    first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the bike
    from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

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  • From john@21:1/5 to Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous on Thu Dec 1 11:58:45 2022
    On 12/1/2022 8:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and knees
    to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold, both
    stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I heard what
    must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful beam of light
    from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the priest. He was
    impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two* miracles for
    sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the bike
    from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    Cheers,
    with that kind of luck, quick buy a bike raffle ticket
    from wheels through time museum. hate checking tires, rolling
    the bike back & forth drill... yet i still do it..
    john

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to john on Thu Dec 1 11:09:14 2022
    On 12/1/2022 10:58 AM, john wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 8:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and
    knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold,
    both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I
    heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful
    beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I
    rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the
    priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two*
    miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    Cheers,
    with that kind of luck, quick buy a bike raffle ticket
    from wheels through time museum. hate checking tires, rolling
    the bike back & forth drill... yet i still do it..
    john

    I just push the lift under it an pick it up just enough to spin the
    wheels ...
    Ezra Brooks 99 on my tab , shots or mixed until they cancel the card .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous on Thu Dec 1 15:57:12 2022
    On 12/1/2022 6:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and knees
    to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold, both
    stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I heard what
    must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful beam of light
    from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the priest. He was
    impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two* miracles for
    sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the bike
    from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker


    I always figured if they went thunk going over a curb they had enough
    air. If they make weird flappity noises the air escaped, and if they go
    clank going over a curb I lost the tire last week, but I still have to
    get to work.



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  • From Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Dec 2 06:36:56 2022
    On 12/1/2022 4:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 6:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and
    knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold,
    both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I
    heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful
    beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I
    rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the
    priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two*
    miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker


    I always figured if they went thunk going over a curb they had enough
    air.  If they make weird flappity noises the air escaped, and if they go clank going over a curb I lost the tire last week, but I still have to
    get to work.



    That sounds like an easier way to do it. <grin>

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Dec 2 15:53:32 2022
    On 12/2/2022 3:21 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and
    knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold,
    both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I
    heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful
    beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I
    rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the
    priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two*
    miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the crappy
    job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they almost never
    need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning the beads.
    They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is always a lay down
    and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found what I consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location they're in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem to leak a pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock absorber air filling tool.  That
    just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was probably
    between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the tires, than what
    was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2 lbs. over what I
    want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I admit, they were damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was going away, and it did worry
    me, especially since the wife insists on going with all the time, but I
    did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get a
    new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple months
    this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making the ride enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it much anymore.
    If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change 'em out.  Screw it.


    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side. I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires. Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous on Fri Dec 2 16:21:54 2022
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time. I'm
    kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've always
    needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times because one
    or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere out of reach. I
    just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and knees
    to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold, both
    stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I heard what
    must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful beam of light
    from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the priest. He was
    impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two* miracles for
    sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the bike
    from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the crappy
    job of checking the pressures. I have to admit that they almost never
    need air. The service guys must do a good job cleaning the beads.
    They're never down. I ride an Ultra, so the rear is always a lay down
    and wheel only in one spot job. Also never found what I consider a good
    chuck to fit on the valves with the location they're in. I wish I could
    find an easy screw on that didn't seem to leak a pound or so once you
    unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock absorber air filling tool. That
    just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before they
    whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was probably
    between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the tires, than what
    was actually in there. Now, I just fill them to 2 lbs. over what I
    want. Alas, I got 15K out of the last set. Now I admit, they were damn
    noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was going away, and it did worry
    me, especially since the wife insists on going with all the time, but I
    did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get a
    new set you think you got a sportbike under you. Last couple months
    this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making the ride enjoyable. So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it much anymore.
    If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change 'em out. Screw it.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Dec 2 20:14:05 2022
    On 12/2/2022 4:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 3:21 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time.
    I'm kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've
    always needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times
    because one or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere
    out of reach. I just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and
    knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold,
    both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I
    heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful
    beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I
    rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the
    priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two*
    miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the
    crappy job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they
    almost never need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning
    the beads. They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is always
    a lay down and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found what I
    consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location they're
    in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem to leak a
    pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock absorber
    air filling tool.  That just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before
    they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was probably
    between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the tires, than
    what was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2 lbs. over what
    I want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I admit, they were
    damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was going away, and it
    did worry me, especially since the wife insists on going with all the
    time, but I did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get a
    new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple months
    this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making the ride
    enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it much anymore.
    If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change 'em out.  Screw
    it.


    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side.  I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires.  Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.

    I've known several Goldwing riders who swear by it, but don't personally
    know of any HD riders. Some of the benefits do sound appealing: 40-50K
    miles, half the price, a shitload more grip, handle more weight, etc.

    Me, I just don't have the balls to try it. I think the Wing riders have
    a seating position more suitable for this, even though Wings are
    probably closer to sportbike like speed and agility. You just sit more upright, and not what I call riding the rear tire.

    To me, riding the rear tire is one of the reasons I ride. I probably
    would have to get used to trike riding to get the same enjoyment out of
    riding as I do on 2 wheels. Nothing is more fun than having good
    rubber, sitting on the ass end, and hammering it around a nice long
    sweeper. I'm 6' 6", with a tallboy seat that is back 2" to start with,
    so I fear I would always worry about not having enough contact on the
    corners.

    They say it isn't so, and there are plenty of videos out showing guys
    riding them. Just not something I am willing to do yet. Here's a good
    video.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_C38hiYiI>

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Dec 2 22:38:54 2022
    On 12/2/2022 4:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 3:21 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time.
    I'm kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've
    always needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times
    because one or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere
    out of reach. I just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on the
    Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50 degrees and
    sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my hands and
    knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo and Behold,
    both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was stunned! I
    heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously a beautiful
    beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my bike. I
    rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing story to the
    priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately it takes *two*
    miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the
    crappy job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they
    almost never need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning
    the beads. They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is always
    a lay down and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found what I
    consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location they're
    in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem to leak a
    pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock absorber
    air filling tool.  That just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before
    they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was probably
    between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the tires, than
    what was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2 lbs. over what
    I want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I admit, they were
    damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was going away, and it
    did worry me, especially since the wife insists on going with all the
    time, but I did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get a
    new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple months
    this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making the ride
    enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it much anymore.
    If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change 'em out.  Screw
    it.


    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side.  I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires.  Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.



    I toyed with the idea a few years back for the Ultra and decided
    against it . Partly because I couldn't find a suitable tire - not many
    130 or 140 - 16's out there - and partly because there ain't a straight
    piece of road in the whole county longer than 4 miles . I spend a lot of
    time leaned over ...
    The SportyTrike is a different matter . I'm looking at replacing the
    front tire , it's a 90/90-19 and I'm wondering if - since the back tires
    are radial - I should put a radial up there .
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    Snag
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  • From Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 3 07:28:23 2022
    <snip>

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the crappy
    job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they almost never
    need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning the beads.
    They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is always a lay down
    and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found what I consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location they're in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem to leak a pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock absorber air filling tool.  That
    just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was probably
    between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the tires, than what
    was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2 lbs. over what I
    want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I admit, they were damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was going away, and it did worry
    me, especially since the wife insists on going with all the time, but I
    did get 15K.

    Good to know. I'll find some way to check the accuracy of my gauge, and
    maybe add a pound or two anyway. I got 12K out of my last pair. (2015
    Ultra) Just replaced them last month. The front could have gone another
    few K, but I figured that while the dealer was putting on the back
    tire...why not do the front tire at the same time. It's only money! <grin>

    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get a
    new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple months
    this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making the ride enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it much anymore.
    If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change 'em out.  Screw it.

    It has been said that a vehicle is only as safe as its tires. I'd rather
    err on the side of safety and/or the side of not needing to sit on the
    side of the road waiting for the tow vehicle.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Sun Dec 4 13:50:12 2022
    On 12/2/2022 7:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 4:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 3:21 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time.
    I'm kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've
    always needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times
    because one or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere
    out of reach. I just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on
    the Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50
    degrees and sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on my
    hands and knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but Lo
    and Behold, both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I was
    stunned! I heard what must have been angels singing. Simultaneously
    a beautiful beam of light from the heavens shown down upon me and my
    bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church and told my amazing
    story to the priest. He was impressed, but said that unfortunately
    it takes *two* miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this was
    the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing the
    bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times!

    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the
    crappy job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they
    almost never need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning
    the beads. They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is
    always a lay down and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found
    what I consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location
    they're in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem to
    leak a pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock
    absorber air filling tool.  That just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before
    they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was
    probably between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the
    tires, than what was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2
    lbs. over what I want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I
    admit, they were damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was
    going away, and it did worry me, especially since the wife insists on
    going with all the time, but I did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get
    a new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple
    months this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making
    the ride enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it
    much anymore. If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change
    'em out.  Screw it.


    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side.  I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires.  Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.

    I've known several Goldwing riders who swear by it, but don't personally
    know of any HD riders.  Some of the benefits do sound appealing: 40-50K miles, half the price, a shitload more grip, handle more weight, etc.

    Me, I just don't have the balls to try it.  I think the Wing riders have
    a seating position more suitable for this, even though Wings are
    probably closer to sportbike like speed and agility.  You just sit more upright, and not what I call riding the rear tire.

    To me, riding the rear tire is one of the reasons I ride.  I probably
    would have to get used to trike riding to get the same enjoyment out of riding as I do on 2 wheels.  Nothing is more fun than having good
    rubber, sitting on the ass end, and hammering it around a nice long sweeper.  I'm 6' 6", with a tallboy seat that is back 2" to start with,
    so I fear I would always worry about not having enough contact on the corners.

    They say it isn't so, and there are plenty of videos out showing guys
    riding them.  Just not something I am willing to do yet.  Here's a good video.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_C38hiYiI>




    Having owned both Goldwings (older ones) and Harleys I have to agree. A
    wing is definitely more sporty than a full size bagger. Well, the older
    ones anyway. I think the newer ones are just as heavy as a new bagger
    although they might have a little more cornering clearance. Honestly
    except for speed they were much more sporty even than my VRSCA. At top
    speed it was close. My VROD would accelerate faster, but my 84 GL1200
    and my VROD both topped out around 120. If the VRSCA was any faster I
    don't know. I ran out of road. BOTH of my 75 GL1000s were faster. One
    easily topped 130 and the other topped a little under 130. Both were
    tired and had lots of miles when I bought them. The 75s were even
    sportier riding than the 84. I didn't push them though. I had hard
    tires for longer mileage, not soft tires for slicing the twisties. That
    being said there is nothing wrong with some of the Harley baggers with a mediocre rider like myself who knows his limits. I've pissed off newbie
    sport bike riders on Yarnell hill by dogging them in the turns. You
    just have to look ahead for dirt on the road. After two or three turns
    they would red line on the next straight and leave me behind though. LOL

    Never went to the dark side myself. Considered it when a bike was my
    only ride and I was short on cash, but I was usually so short on cash
    then I had to mount and dismount the tire myself. Buying ANY tire was
    not in the budget. Patching, plugging, and swapping was the only option
    when I had to get to work on a Friday morning and I didn't get paid
    until Friday night.



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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Dec 5 10:58:36 2022
    On 12/4/2022 2:50 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 7:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 4:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 12/2/2022 3:21 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 12/1/2022 7:42 AM, Frank Xzarhadjizamtheopolous wrote:
    Drinks on me. I have an amazing story to tell!

    I check tire pressure on the bike before a ride almost every time.
    I'm kinda anal about that, I guess. As far as I can recall, I've
    always needed to jockey the bike back and forth a number of times
    because one or both valve stems were up in the fender or somewhere
    out of reach. I just assumed that was simply what you had to do.

    A few days ago I went to the garage to check the tire pressure on
    the Electra Glide before a short ride into town and back. (50
    degrees and sunny!) I got out the air hose and gauge, got down on
    my hands and knees to begin the inevitable hunt for the stems, but
    Lo and Behold, both stems were at the very bottom of the wheels! I
    was stunned! I heard what must have been angels singing.
    Simultaneously a beautiful beam of light from the heavens shown
    down upon me and my bike. I rushed to the nearby Catholic church
    and told my amazing story to the priest. He was impressed, but said
    that unfortunately it takes *two* miracles for sainthood.

    OK...I embellished the story a tiny bit, but it's true that this
    was the first time both valve stems were accessible without pushing
    the bike from one end of the garage to the other a half dozen times! >>>>>
    Andy aka Big Stinkie aka Frank the Real Biker

    I was having issues with getting the 15K miles per set of rubbers I
    wanted last few sets, so I really started paying attention to the
    crappy job of checking the pressures.  I have to admit that they
    almost never need air.  The service guys must do a good job cleaning
    the beads. They're never down.  I ride an Ultra, so the rear is
    always a lay down and wheel only in one spot job.  Also never found
    what I consider a good chuck to fit on the valves with the location
    they're in.  I wish I could find an easy screw on that didn't seem
    to leak a pound or so once you unscrewed it, kinda like the HD shock
    absorber air filling tool.  That just works good.
    Anyway, only getting about 7K to maybe 10K on a set of tires before
    they whined so bad it worried me, I finally figured out I was
    probably between 1-2 pounds lower on what I thought I had in the
    tires, than what was actually in there.  Now, I just fill them to 2
    lbs. over what I want.  Alas, I got 15K out of the last set.  Now I
    admit, they were damn noisy at the end and that stuck feeling was
    going away, and it did worry me, especially since the wife insists
    on going with all the time, but I did get 15K.
    The good thing about getting that many miles on too, is when you get
    a new set you think you got a sportbike under you.  Last couple
    months this year were on new rubber and what a difference in making
    the ride enjoyable.  So much, I don't know if I'll worry about it
    much anymore. If they start whining and don't feel so secure, change
    'em out.  Screw it.


    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side.  I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits
    on the sides with regular mc tires.  Maybe those guys would benefit
    from going to the dark side if only for the rear.

    I've known several Goldwing riders who swear by it, but don't
    personally know of any HD riders.  Some of the benefits do sound
    appealing: 40-50K miles, half the price, a shitload more grip, handle
    more weight, etc.

    Me, I just don't have the balls to try it.  I think the Wing riders
    have a seating position more suitable for this, even though Wings are
    probably closer to sportbike like speed and agility.  You just sit
    more upright, and not what I call riding the rear tire.

    To me, riding the rear tire is one of the reasons I ride.  I probably
    would have to get used to trike riding to get the same enjoyment out
    of riding as I do on 2 wheels.  Nothing is more fun than having good
    rubber, sitting on the ass end, and hammering it around a nice long
    sweeper.  I'm 6' 6", with a tallboy seat that is back 2" to start
    with, so I fear I would always worry about not having enough contact
    on the corners.

    They say it isn't so, and there are plenty of videos out showing guys
    riding them.  Just not something I am willing to do yet.  Here's a
    good video.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_C38hiYiI>




    Having owned both Goldwings (older ones) and Harleys I have to agree.  A wing is definitely more sporty than a full size bagger.  Well, the older ones anyway.  I think the newer ones are just as heavy as a new bagger although they might have a little more cornering clearance.  Honestly
    except for speed they were much more sporty even than my VRSCA.  At top speed it was close.  My VROD would accelerate faster, but my 84 GL1200
    and my VROD both topped out around 120.  If the VRSCA was any faster I
    don't know.  I ran out of road.  BOTH of my 75 GL1000s were faster.  One easily topped 130 and the other topped a little under 130.  Both were
    tired and had lots of miles when I bought them.  The 75s were even
    sportier riding than the 84.  I didn't push them though.  I had hard
    tires for longer mileage, not soft tires for slicing the twisties.  That being said there is nothing wrong with some of the Harley baggers with a mediocre rider like myself who knows his limits.  I've pissed off newbie sport bike riders on Yarnell hill by dogging them in the turns.  You
    just have to look ahead for dirt on the road.  After two or three turns
    they would red line on the next straight and leave me behind though.  LOL

    Old Crow and I used to make it a sport to dog those newbie sportybike
    riders . Of course , both of our bikes had rear suspension mods - added
    heim links ,snubber sleeves in the mounts and my special homemade
    swingarm bushings in place of the cleve blocks . And up here there
    aren't any straight stretches long enough to allow them to escape .
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    Snag
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  • From Phil Boutros@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Thu Dec 8 22:36:15 2022
    Bob La Londe <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side. I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires. Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.

    Not worth the risk to me. But I usually wear the titties off my
    tires (if I could ever get riding again, that is). If I was on a
    heavier and not as nimble bike as the FXR? Probably still not worth
    the risk to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEZeR9E3JyY

    Phil...the full leathers wearing Asshole(tm)...
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  • From Rick Begeman@21:1/5 to Phil Boutros on Mon Feb 20 20:16:53 2023
    On 12/8/22 2:36 PM, Phil Boutros wrote:
    Bob La Londe <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've wondered how many (if any) HD riders go to the dark side. I've
    seen a lot of tires worn out in the middle and still have vent tits on
    the sides with regular mc tires. Maybe those guys would benefit from
    going to the dark side if only for the rear.

    Not worth the risk to me. But I usually wear the titties off my
    tires (if I could ever get riding again, that is). If I was on a
    heavier and not as nimble bike as the FXR? Probably still not worth
    the risk to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEZeR9E3JyY

    Phil...the full leathers wearing Asshole(tm)...


    Fuck the risk, that's a looong dice roll.

    The problem is the shape of the tire, a cycle tire has a rounded shape
    for a reason.

    The flat shape of a car tire causes the center of gravity to shift the
    wrong direction to allow a cycle to turn.

    Car tires on a trike is cool because it doesn't lean and has big side loads.

    I don't want to arm wrestle my bike around every corner.....

    If you are not running 40+ in the rear you are wasting tires.
    43 or 44 ona bagger loaded up.

    --
    Ironhead Rick

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