Anyone know what specific size/type of pinball this game requires? The playability of this one is very determined by the ball and the ‘bounce’ factor. The side bounce rails are aged and we’ve tried to restore the rubberiness of them to little
effect. I wonder too if there’s a nominal replacement so that correct size/type pinball does its bounce properly. It’s fully functional otherwise, and I’d like to have it completely playable.
https://quarterbyte.blogspot.com/2011/04/
Any information you could provide would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks!

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On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 1:39:53 AM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:

On 2022/05/23 6:03 p.m., macR wrote:

Anyone know what specific size/type of pinball this game requires? The playability of this one is very determined by the ball and the ‘bounce’ factor. The side bounce rails are aged and we’ve tried to restore the rubberiness of them to little

effect. I wonder too if there’s a nominal replacement so that correct size/type pinball does its bounce properly. It’s fully functional otherwise, and I’d like to have it completely playable.

https://quarterbyte.blogspot.com/2011/04/
Any information you could provide would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks!

Early EM pinball games used glass marbles, not steel balls - these balls would fit with only a bit of spare space in the holes in the playfield.

I'd try them first if you can't get any better info.

John :-#)#

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Neat game. Check the tray where the balls sit after they drain for some indication of the correct size. Likely a standard 1-1/16 or 1-1/8 chrome steel ball would work. Had a 1937 Bally Mercury which came with 1-1/8" balls (similar style cabinet and head,
operating on two old radio vacuum tubes, and high voltage). New rubber weather stripping can restore some bounce to old games. See what you can find, and perhaps save the original material somewhere in the cabinet. Dave H.

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On 5/23/2022 8:03 PM, macR wrote:

Anyone know what specific size/type of pinball this game requires? The playability of this one is very determined by the ball and the ‘bounce’ factor. The side bounce rails are aged and we’ve tried to restore the rubberiness of them to little

effect. I wonder too if there’s a nominal replacement so that correct size/type pinball does its bounce properly. It’s fully functional otherwise, and I’d like to have it completely playable.

https://quarterbyte.blogspot.com/2011/04/
Any information you could provide would be sincerely appreciated.

Thanks!

The Pinball Resource shows sizes available from 3/4" up. http://pbresource.com/Balls.html

In my old games there are ball trails on the metal arc. Measuring that
gives 1/2 the diameter of the ball. Height of bumpers is also a clue.

That said, rejuvenating 85 year old rubber sounds like a challenge.

I'm curious as to how the "Radio Ray" worked. In your picture it looks
like mirrors so I'm guessing it's a single light beam following the
criss-cross lines? CDS photoresistors may have existed that long ago,
but I have no idea how that would have triggered a score given that
there were no transistors.

- Kerry

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Gentlemen, all, thank you! I greatly appreciate this insightful information you’ve provided. John, thank you again for all your help on this (real pinballers) newsgroup. A great friend is helping restore this game fully and he’s 70 miles away with it
currently in his shop. Naphtha product in multiple applications to the side rubber is arduous and not really working —taking those suggestions about replacement and still searching for a similarly-profiled replacement. We tried the 25mm glass marbles
first and they seemed way too light for the needed bounce. By the way, this prompted an order from moonmarble.com for some needed replacements for other pre-war pins in collection, a great source with many colors. We do have tells by the field wear and
the rubber heights -the ideal size showing to be 1 1/8”. This agrees with the Bally Mercury, which was very telling being the same Model # 159. Thanks, Dave. Machines that were made within May/June of 1937 share the inventions of a new patent by
Charles Breitenstein: a “…circular platform adapted to be yieldingly supported at the level of the playing surface so that a relatively heavy ball rolling onto the platform will weight it down sufficiently to cause momentary closing of an electric
switch in a circuit including means to operate some desired auxiliary device, such as a score counter.” (Pinball 1, pp 181). AHA! “relatively heavy ball” .. a 1 1/16 weighing 75g and a 1 1/8 weighing 95g. Similar back box and vacuum tubes too I’
m sure -what is that potentiometer for?! The Mercury looks very cool with that stainless steel field. This Crosssline has delicate (despite the wire protectors) mirrors, that keep that very finicky beam crossing the field back to the collector (finicky
like your garage door beam). The circuit is normally closed as long as the beam is seen in photocell; the ball breaks the plane causing the circuit to be tagged as open, triggering the score wheel to advance 1x. I’ll post detailed addendum pictures and
working video to that same blog post when we get it nominal soon! Yeah, dated cool like a MM, but novelty fun like a Hyperball -bet the operators were constantly readjusting the mirrors for coin! Working game reminds me of some black/white Hollywood
premier with spotlights. Good stuff!

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