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  • stern Indiana jones coil strength ?

    From Chas Gantz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 05:38:33 2023
    The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

    In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

    Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

    Thanks
    Chas

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Chas Gantz on Tue Mar 21 12:00:03 2023
    On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:
    The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

    In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

    Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

    Thanks
    Chas

    Hi Chas,

    Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

    Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static
    voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much resistance and thus the action is weak.

    Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

    John :-#)#

    PS, the manual is on ipdb.org
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  • From Chas Gantz@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Wed Mar 22 05:45:57 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:00:22 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:
    The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

    In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

    Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc

    Thanks
    Chas
    Hi Chas,

    Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

    Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much resistance and thus the action is weak.

    Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

    John :-#)#

    PS, the manual is on ipdb.org
    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

    thanks for the info.. Guess it's time to reflow the solder joints

    Chas

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 08:18:05 2023
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  • From Chas Gantz@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Wed Mar 22 08:24:27 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 11:20:37 AM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/03/22 5:45 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:00:22 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/03/20 5:38 a.m., Chas Gantz wrote:
    The upper captive ball saucer is weak as are the sling shots by the flippers. Coil is new, everything is clean and moves freely, but it won't kick the ball out.

    In the settings menu the coil strength is set to "hard". Changing this setting has no effect. does the coil strength setting affect all coils or just the flipper strength??

    Any ideas why this coil is weak?? it's getting the proper voltage 22vdc >>>
    Thanks
    Chas
    Hi Chas,

    Looking at the manual page 111, the slingshot power comes from the brown >> conductor via J7-P1 and then on to J6-P10 to fuse F10.

    Any of those connections may be in poor condition so you get a static
    voltage reading that is fine, but under load the connection has too much >> resistance and thus the action is weak.

    Connectors are always my first suspect in this situation!

    John :-#)#

    PS, the manual is on ipdb.org
    thanks for the info.. Guess it's time to reflow the solder joints

    Chas
    I don't think reflowing the solder connections on these pins will help
    much if at all, I am talking about the wiper pins in the sockets...those
    I am suspicious of!

    John :-#)#
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    #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

    gotcha. thanks

    chas

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