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  • NerfHack - where is Sokoban?

    From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 10:54:01 2025
    In the NerfHack variant I wonder where I can find Sokoban.

    In most variants I yet played it had the entry as upstairs
    on the level below the Oracle of Delphi; but those stairs
    don't let me enter Sokoban but rather an open area, with
    three vertical rivers prevent me from exploring the level
    (I have neither water walking nor levitation). - I've seen
    this outdoor level in other variants, but don't recall its
    purpose - maybe it was the early entry to Vlad's tower or
    some other special branch. Anyway, it wasn't Sokoban, and
    there's no other stairs to be found below the Oracle level.

    And if I inspect the dungeon #overview I get below list..


    The Dungeons of Doom: levels 1 to 11
    Level 2:
    Stairs down to The Gnomish Mines.
    Level 3:
    Some sinks.
    Level 4:
    A fountain.
    Level 5:
    A food shop.
    Level 8: <- You are here.
    A sink.
    Level 9:
    Many fountains, many trees.
    Oracle of Delphi.
    Level 10:
    Stairs up to Sokoban, level 9.
    Level 11:
    The Gnomish Mines: levels 3 to 11
    Level 5:
    Many shops, a temple and an altar to Odin, some fountains, many
    graves.
    Level 11: "mines-end"
    A fountain.
    Sokoban:
    Level 9:
    Solved.


    ...which says that Sokoban is "solved"! - But I've never seen
    any of the Sokoban maps that are defined in the dat/soko*.lua
    files.

    Can anyone explain what's going on here?

    I'm playing the NerfHack 2.0.0 version on Hardfought (EU).

    Janis

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Thu Jan 2 11:59:25 2025
    Answering my own post...

    I just observed another player leaving Sokoban and reaching
    that open area with the rivers that I mentioned below. - So
    I obviously need some means to cross the river to get to the
    Sokoban stairs. (Too bad that the [guaranteed(?)] scrolls of
    earth are on the other side of the rivers.)

    Janis


    On 02.01.2025 10:54, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    In the NerfHack variant I wonder where I can find Sokoban.

    In most variants I yet played it had the entry as upstairs
    on the level below the Oracle of Delphi; but those stairs
    don't let me enter Sokoban but rather an open area, with
    three vertical rivers prevent me from exploring the level
    (I have neither water walking nor levitation). - I've seen
    this outdoor level in other variants, but don't recall its
    purpose - maybe it was the early entry to Vlad's tower or
    some other special branch. Anyway, it wasn't Sokoban, and
    there's no other stairs to be found below the Oracle level.

    And if I inspect the dungeon #overview I get below list..
    [...]
    ...which says that Sokoban is "solved"! - But I've never seen
    any of the Sokoban maps that are defined in the dat/soko*.lua
    files.

    Can anyone explain what's going on here?

    I'm playing the NerfHack 2.0.0 version on Hardfought (EU).

    Janis


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