1. Forum
  2. Usenet
  3. REC.GAMES.ROGUELIKE.NETHA

  • [hackem] An extraordinary high price at Sam's Black Market

    From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 13:47:36 2023
    At Hack'EM's Black Market I see the typical very high prices.
    But this one astonishes me; ~50000 zk for a dragonhide cloak
    (and you see another magical cloak for comparison)

    b - a dragonhide oilskin cloak (for sale, 49995 zorkmids)
    c - a cloak of invisibility (for sale, 1500 zorkmids)

    Even a magic lamp (for comparison) is just half of that price

    k - a magic lamp (for sale, 25000 zorkmids)

    I understand the materials is copied from EvilHack and in the
    Wiki I read for dragonhide a "relative cost" of 200. I'm not
    sure that high price would solely stem from the material, so
    my question is; do I have to expect some (yet unidentified)
    magic in that cloak or is that a regular Black Market price?

    In case it's normal; this would make wishing for the cloak -
    i.e. buying the lamp instead - a more cost effective sensible
    alternative? (And these two prices probably not well balanced
    against each other; should maybe dragonhide be cheaper or the
    magic lamp be made yet more expensive?)

    Janis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to RecRanger on Sun May 21 01:57:31 2023
    On 21.05.2023 01:37, RecRanger wrote:

    My experience is that even plain dragonhide cloaks can have a
    purchase price of around 5000zm. It _could_ also have an
    unidentified magical property. It is unlikely, and incredibly rare,
    but it can happen. So, you can have a dragonhide oilskin cloak of
    drain resistance or whatever.

    Thanks for that information.

    To disclose a magic property, would "identify" suffice or do I need
    "magic detection" instead?

    I not yet know how "magic detection" actually works, blessed or else.

    Janis

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From RecRanger@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Sat May 20 16:37:19 2023
    On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:48:52 AM UTC-4, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    At Hack'EM's Black Market I see the typical very high prices.
    But this one astonishes me; ~50000 zk for a dragonhide cloak
    (and you see another magical cloak for comparison)

    b - a dragonhide oilskin cloak (for sale, 49995 zorkmids)
    c - a cloak of invisibility (for sale, 1500 zorkmids)

    Even a magic lamp (for comparison) is just half of that price

    k - a magic lamp (for sale, 25000 zorkmids)

    I understand the materials is copied from EvilHack and in the
    Wiki I read for dragonhide a "relative cost" of 200. I'm not
    sure that high price would solely stem from the material, so
    my question is; do I have to expect some (yet unidentified)
    magic in that cloak or is that a regular Black Market price?

    In case it's normal; this would make wishing for the cloak -
    i.e. buying the lamp instead - a more cost effective sensible
    alternative? (And these two prices probably not well balanced
    against each other; should maybe dragonhide be cheaper or the
    magic lamp be made yet more expensive?)

    Janis

    My experience is that even plain dragonhide cloaks can have a
    purchase price of around 5000zm. It _could_ also have an
    unidentified magical property. It is unlikely, and incredibly rare,
    but it can happen. So, you can have a dragonhide oilskin cloak of
    drain resistance or whatever.

    --

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From RecRanger@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Sun May 21 16:48:18 2023
    On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 7:59:16 PM UTC-4, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    On 21.05.2023 01:37, RecRanger wrote:

    My experience is that even plain dragonhide cloaks can have a
    purchase price of around 5000zm. It _could_ also have an
    unidentified magical property. It is unlikely, and incredibly rare,
    but it can happen. So, you can have a dragonhide oilskin cloak of
    drain resistance or whatever.
    Thanks for that information.

    To disclose a magic property, would "identify" suffice or do I need
    "magic detection" instead?

    I not yet know how "magic detection" actually works, blessed or else.

    Janis

    Magic detection, I think, is only for wizards (and maybe other magical classes?). When you find something magical it is labeled as "magical
    leather armor", "magical mithril broadsword", etc., and it only tells you
    it is magical — there is no identification as to what the magical
    property is. It just help you weed out the junk. Whereas, otherwise,
    muggles have to price ID or formal ID (spell or scroll). Not sure if
    Hack'EM utilizes shopkeeper services, including ID?

    --

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)