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  • It's a horse, not a knight!

    From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 23 14:26:36 2022
    Bs"d

    Let's be serious; when you look at a horse, do you see anywhere a knight??

    NO!! What you see is a HORSE.

    So let's call a spade a spade, and let's call a horse a horse.

    As the horny goat informed us, IM Jeremy Silman regularly calls a horse a horse, and also the IM Levy Rozman calls a spade a spade and a horse a horse in this youtube, at 26:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dieM4IDbJsQ

    Slowly the truth is coming out.

    There is no stopping the truth!

    https://tinyurl.com/horse-not-knight

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Mar 23 15:54:11 2022
    On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Eli Kesef
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bs"d

    Let's be serious; when you look at a horse, do you see anywhere a knight??

    NO!! What you see is a HORSE.

    So let's call a spade a spade, and let's call a horse a horse.




    It's a knight, not a horse. It doesn't matter what it looks like. It's
    standard English name is "knight" and that's the name used by the vast
    majority of English speaking chess players.

    There may be an occasional player who calls it a "horse," but except
    for young children and an occasional boob who foolishly wants to call
    it by the wrong name, almost nobody does. I'd be amazed if as many as
    1% of English speaking chess players who weren't complete beginners
    called it a "horse."


    The same goes for "rook." It's "rook," not "castle."

    --
    The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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  • From Andy Walker@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Wed Mar 23 23:25:32 2022
    On 23/03/2022 22:54, Ken Blake wrote:
    There may be an occasional player who calls it a "horse," [...].

    Actually, "horsey" is perhaps more usual than "horse", as
    in "Tell me again, how does the horsey move?". But that may just
    be a juvenile UK thinggy amongst advanced players.

    --
    Andy Walker, Nottingham.
    Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
    Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Lange

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  • From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to Andy Walker on Wed Mar 23 22:24:20 2022
    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 1:25:41 AM UTC+2, Andy Walker wrote:
    On 23/03/2022 22:54, Ken Blake wrote:
    There may be an occasional player who calls it a "horse," [...].

    Actually, "horsey" is perhaps more usual than "horse", as
    in "Tell me again, how does the horsey move?". But that may just
    be a juvenile UK thinggy amongst advanced players.

    Bs"d

    I can live with "horsey", it is an enormous step in the right direction, but I myself stick to "horse".

    https://tinyurl.com/horsey-mug

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  • From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Wed Mar 23 22:21:50 2022
    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 12:54:06 AM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Eli Kesef
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bs"d

    Let's be serious; when you look at a horse, do you see anywhere a knight??

    NO!! What you see is a HORSE.

    So let's call a spade a spade, and let's call a horse a horse.
    It's a knight, not a horse. It doesn't matter what it looks like. It's standard English name is "knight" and that's the name used by the vast majority of English speaking chess players.

    Bs"d

    And that is exactly why we have to make a change. We cannot tolerate this wrong name to continue.

    We have to organize, and maybe start a NGO to promote our cause, to right a terrible wrong.

    There may be an occasional player who calls it a "horse," but except
    for young children and an occasional boob who foolishly wants to call
    it by the wrong name, almost nobody does. I'd be amazed if as many as
    1% of English speaking chess players who weren't complete beginners
    called it a "horse."


    The same goes for "rook." It's "rook," not "castle."

    So you don't object when I say I do the long rooking?

    https://tinyurl.com/waste-life

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 24 11:51:04 2022
    On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 22:21:50 -0700 (PDT), Eli Kesef
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 12:54:06 AM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Eli Kesef
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bs"d

    Let's be serious; when you look at a horse, do you see anywhere a knight?? >> >
    NO!! What you see is a HORSE.

    So let's call a spade a spade, and let's call a horse a horse.
    It's a knight, not a horse. It doesn't matter what it looks like. It's
    standard English name is "knight" and that's the name used by the vast
    majority of English speaking chess players.

    Bs"d

    And that is exactly why we have to make a change. We cannot tolerate this wrong name to continue.


    It's not a wrong name, and yes, we (all 99.something % of us) can
    tolerate it. Almost everyone but you prefers to call it by its correct name--"knight."

    *You* don't want to use it, and as I said, calling it a horse makes
    you look like a silly nine-year-old beginner at chess.

    I have to admit, though, that I think you play better than a
    nine-year-old beginner does. I think I never played better than you do
    until I was about 13 or 14.


    We have to organize, and maybe start a NGO to promote our cause, to right a terrible wrong.



    Feel free to start whatever you want. You might even find three or
    four people willing to join you in it.


    There may be an occasional player who calls it a "horse," but except
    for young children and an occasional boob who foolishly wants to call
    it by the wrong name, almost nobody does. I'd be amazed if as many as
    1% of English speaking chess players who weren't complete beginners
    called it a "horse."


    The same goes for "rook." It's "rook," not "castle."

    So you don't object when I say I do the long rooking?


    I'm sure you know what my answer would be, so I won't reply to your
    dumb question.

    --
    The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 12:36:38 2022
    And I thought that a horse was a horse _here_:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5sYTcchq2o

    Although it is true that in some countries, chess diagrams show
    a horse's head for a knight... and a knight's head for... a
    BISHOP!

    John Savard

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  • From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Sat Mar 26 09:51:48 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 10:36:39 PM UTC+3, Quadibloc wrote:
    And I thought that a horse was a horse _here_:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5sYTcchq2o

    Although it is true that in some countries, chess diagrams show
    a horse's head for a knight... and a knight's head for... a
    BISHOP!

    Bs"d

    It is clear that this cannot go on any longer.

    Something has to be done!

    https://tinyurl.com/horsey-T-sh

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