• The Magnus Gambit

    From Silver Skull@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 02:54:54 2025
    Magnus Carlsen takes on Arkady Dvorkovich using the freestyle opening.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/feb/04/magnus-carlsen-calls-international-chess-president-quit-arkady-dvorkovich-freestyle-grand-slam

    Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting plenty of
    publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling tickets for these
    events now.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Silver Skull on Wed Feb 5 11:48:20 2025
    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

    Magnus Carlsen takes on Arkady Dvorkovich using the freestyle opening.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/feb/04/magnus-carlsen-calls-international-chess-president-quit-arkady-dvorkovich-freestyle-grand-slam

    Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling tickets for these
    events now.

    Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call their project
    World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a copyright on those words is absurd.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 15:48:02 2025
    D wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

    Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting
    plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling
    tickets for these events now.

    Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
    their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
    copyright on those words is absurd.

    The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
    their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

    For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
    thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not really
    the way to go. All of the discussions should have been behind
    closed doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
    (Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all love the
    drama and YouTube content, if you are launching a new chess
    tournament all publicity might be seen as good publicity, but
    if it damages the image of chess to the wider public then it's
    definitely not good.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Feb 6 21:52:58 2025
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

    Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting
    plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling
    tickets for these events now.

    Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
    their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
    copyright on those words is absurd.

    The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
    their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

    This is sad.

    For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
    thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not really

    I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

    the way to go. All of the discussions should have been behind
    closed doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
    (Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all love the
    drama and YouTube content, if you are launching a new chess
    tournament all publicity might be seen as good publicity, but
    if it damages the image of chess to the wider public then it's
    definitely not good.

    But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of 960 or what
    ever they call it. Different thing.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 14:15:09 2025
    D wrote:

    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

    Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is
    getting plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any
    problem selling tickets for these events now.

    Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
    their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
    copyright on those words is absurd.

    The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
    their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

    This is sad.

    Common sense broke out!

    For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
    thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not
    really the way to go.

    I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism
    might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

    FIDE are definitely out of touch with the younger generations
    and the appeal of the non-classical formats. A compromise should
    have been worked out weeks ago.

    All of the discussions should have been behind closed
    doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
    (Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all
    love the drama and YouTube content, if you are launching
    a new chess tournament all publicity might be seen as good
    publicity, but if it damages the image of chess to the wider
    public then it's definitely not good.

    But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of
    960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.

    Yes, it is different and FIDE were in the wrong. They were
    obviously worried about there being rival chess "world
    champions"... especially with a series of tournaments co-founded
    and backed by Magnus Carlsen. I'm not saying FIDE are right, I'm
    saying the negotiations regarding this issue should have been
    done behind closed doors, not via X/Facebook/YouTube... it is
    one game [chess] after all. Sensible people should be able to
    work out that the Freestyle/Chess960 World Champion is not the
    FIDE World Chess Champion. But a public war benefits nobody in
    the game.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Feb 7 22:02:42 2025
    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism
    might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

    FIDE are definitely out of touch with the younger generations
    and the appeal of the non-classical formats. A compromise should
    have been worked out weeks ago.

    This is the truth!

    But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of
    960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.

    Yes, it is different and FIDE were in the wrong. They were
    obviously worried about there being rival chess "world
    champions"... especially with a series of tournaments co-founded
    and backed by Magnus Carlsen. I'm not saying FIDE are right, I'm

    This is the truth!

    saying the negotiations regarding this issue should have been
    done behind closed doors, not via X/Facebook/YouTube... it is

    This is also the truth! I think the leadership of FIDE is immature. Magnus is a savant and of course does not know the nuances of good behaviour, or at best, has to fight to consciously emulate it. FIDE bosses seem to be either immature, or use the russian brutalist approach to conflict resolution which does not work
    in the west.

    one game [chess] after all. Sensible people should be able to
    work out that the Freestyle/Chess960 World Champion is not the
    FIDE World Chess Champion. But a public war benefits nobody in
    the game.

    Depends on the outcome. Maybe... things will turn out for the better?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Tahitian pearl on Sat Feb 8 13:49:54 2025
    Tahitian pearl wrote:

    I guess I want 960 to experience a fruitful run. Maybe
    we'll see it on some of the chess sites like
    lichess.org and gameknot.com.

    Chess960 is on the big chess sites, and has been for years...
    I'm always getting beaten on chess.com whenever I play chess 960.

    It is a fun format though and maybe it will see a lot more
    growth now because of this new "Freestyle Chess" tour.

    Watching the actual games from Germany yesterday afternoon on
    chess.com with everyone talking at the same time like
    over-excited school children did drive me mad though...

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 8 19:00:08 2025
    On Sat, 8 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    Tahitian pearl wrote:

    I guess I want 960 to experience a fruitful run. Maybe
    we'll see it on some of the chess sites like
    lichess.org and gameknot.com.

    Chess960 is on the big chess sites, and has been for years...
    I'm always getting beaten on chess.com whenever I play chess 960.

    It is a fun format though and maybe it will see a lot more
    growth now because of this new "Freestyle Chess" tour.

    Watching the actual games from Germany yesterday afternoon on
    chess.com with everyone talking at the same time like
    over-excited school children did drive me mad though...


    Hmm, interesting. Maybe I should give it a change! =)

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