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    From Mister Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 07:08:55 2023
    BBO have recently updated their web version to 6.10.1.
    I cannot now login using latest Safari (16.6) on latest macOS (13.5.1):
    the 'Log in' button doesn't work.
    I can login using Firefox, but changing the user-agent to Firefox
    within Safari doesn't work.

    I shall send BBO support a HAR file...

    Rob

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Mister Johnson on Tue Aug 29 02:22:38 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 3:08:58 AM UTC-4, Mister Johnson wrote:
    BBO have recently updated their web version to 6.10.1.
    I cannot now login using latest Safari (16.6) on latest macOS (13.5.1):
    the 'Log in' button doesn't work.
    I can login using Firefox, but changing the user-agent to Firefox
    within Safari doesn't work.

    I shall send BBO support a HAR file...

    Rob
    I use Chrome.

    When I used Safari long ago, there were problems, but I can't remember the details.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 29 10:59:13 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 3:08:58AM UTC-4, Mister Johnson wrote:
    BBO have recently updated their web version to 6.10.1. I cannot now
    login using latest Safari (16.6) on latest macOS (13.5.1): the 'Log
    in' button doesn't work. I can login using Firefox, but changing the
    user-agent to Firefox within Safari doesn't work.

    I shall send BBO support a HAR file...

    Rob

    I use Chrome.

    When I used Safari long ago, there were problems, but I can't remember
    the details.

    That's the problem with making all this stuff browser based. It always
    ends up being browser-dependent, and usually ends up working only with MS's browser.

    It was so much better when BBO ran as a normal Windows EXE file.
    I totally lost interest in BBO when they broke it (several years ago now).


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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Tue Aug 29 13:24:11 2023
    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    That's the problem with making all this stuff browser based. It always
    ends up being browser-dependent, and usually ends up working only with MS's browser.

    It was so much better when BBO ran as a normal Windows EXE file.

    Linux, Mac and OS/2 users wouldn't be so happy with that solution.

    And if you dream about a Windows program - then why are you unhappy with
    things only working in a Windows browser?

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    Bertel, Denmark

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Dec 2 03:29:12 2023
    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 13:24:11 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:

    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    That's the problem with making all this stuff browser based. It always
    ends up being browser-dependent, and usually ends up working only with MS's >> browser.

    It was so much better when BBO ran as a normal Windows EXE file.

    Linux, Mac and OS/2 users wouldn't be so happy with that solution.


    FYI, the old Windows BBO program worked perfectly well using Linux and
    WINE. I used it for many years.

    Brian.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Dec 2 11:35:46 2023
    In article <tVBaN.1989$[email protected]>,
    Brian <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 13:24:11 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen ><[email protected]> wrote:

    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    That's the problem with making all this stuff browser based. It always
    ends up being browser-dependent, and usually ends up working only with MS's >>> browser.

    It was so much better when BBO ran as a normal Windows EXE file.

    Linux, Mac and OS/2 users wouldn't be so happy with that solution.


    FYI, the old Windows BBO program worked perfectly well using Linux and
    WINE. I used it for many years.

    Brian.

    Indeed. I think I made that point somewhere upthread (now long gone from
    my newsserver). (like you) I ran BBO under Wine for quite some time.

    I think I've also run it under (I think) Virtual Box, on (x86 based) Mac.

    Haven't used OS/2 in decades; don't really care about that anymore...

    Finally, note that I am pretty sure that the reason they switched to browser-based is simply because it made it easier to serve ads (and make money). The graveyard of all good things...

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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Sat Dec 2 16:13:36 2023
    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    Finally, note that I am pretty sure that the reason they switched to browser-based is simply because it made it easier to serve ads (and make money). The graveyard of all good things...

    A browserbased application is system-independent.

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Dec 2 16:24:48 2023
    In article <ukfhj0$2dd04$[email protected]>,
    Bertel Lund Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:
    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    Finally, note that I am pretty sure that the reason they switched to
    browser-based is simply because it made it easier to serve ads (and make
    money). The graveyard of all good things...

    A browserbased application is system-independent.

    In theory.

    See my previous posts on this thread.

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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Sat Dec 2 20:51:11 2023
    Kenny McCormack wrote:

    A browserbased application is system-independent.

    In theory.

    And practice.

    See my previous posts on this thread.

    Having to make sure that Wine (and other intermidiery software) doesn't suddenly crash due to new versions poses certain limits on the
    development. It's easier only to have to consider standard browsers.

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