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  • 4pt vs 18pt 1a

    From ah....Clem@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 13:27:26 2023
    What about the other bar point?

    XGID=--a--bE-CA--eD---bAe--A---:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O X |
    | X O | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | O | | X |
    | O | | X |
    | O X | | X |
    | O X | | X O |
    | O X X | | X O O |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 155 O: 174 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 54

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  • From Renan Moritz@21:1/5 to ah....Clem on Wed Jul 12 14:14:27 2023
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 2:27:28 PM UTC-3, ah....Clem wrote:
    What about the other bar point?

    XGID=--a--bE-CA--eD---bAe--A---:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O X |
    | X O | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | O | | X |
    | O | | X |
    | O X | | X |
    | O X | | X O |
    | O X X | | X O O |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 155 O: 174 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 54

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    X is confortably ahead in the race and making the 4th doesn't add that much to the position, therefore: 18/9

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to ah....Clem on Wed Jul 12 21:05:55 2023
    On 7/12/2023 1:27 PM, ah....Clem wrote:

    What about the other bar point?

    XGID=--a--bE-CA--eD---bAe--A---:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1   O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
     +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     | X           O  X |   | O        X       |
     | X           O    |   | O                |
     | X                |   | O                |
     | X                |   | O                |
     |                  |   | O                |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     | O                |   | X                |
     | O                |   | X                |
     | O           X    |   | X                |
     | O           X    |   | X  O             |
     | O        X  X    |   | X  O        O    |
     +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 155  O: 174 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 54

    I don't think that stripping the 8pt to make a point behind O's anchor
    is the right idea here, when X has those blots on the other side of the
    board. X is well ahead in the pip count and Magriel's criteria suggest
    a safe play. For me, the choice is between 22/18 9/4 and 18/9. I would probably play 18/9 over the board, following the principle that one
    should race when ahead in the race.

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    Tim Chow

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  • From ah....Clem@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 16 16:27:41 2023
    XG prefers making the bar point over the four point, but much more
    strongly prefers making the nine point.


    XGID=--a--bE-CA--eD---bAe--A---:0:0:1:54:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O X |
    | X O | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | X | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | O | | X |
    | O | | X |
    | O X | | X |
    | O X | | X O |
    | O X X | | X O O |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 155 O: 174 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 54

    1. XG Roller++ 18/9 eq:+0.341
    Player: 59.24% (G:13.04% B:0.44%)
    Opponent: 40.76% (G:9.04% B:0.26%)

    2. XG Roller++ 22/18 13/8 eq:+0.220 (-0.121)
    Player: 56.02% (G:11.57% B:0.35%)
    Opponent: 43.98% (G:8.99% B:0.29%)

    3. XG Roller++ 9/4 8/4 eq:+0.191 (-0.150)
    Player: 54.76% (G:14.04% B:0.49%)
    Opponent: 45.24% (G:10.83% B:0.35%)

    4. XG Roller++ 22/18 9/4 eq:+0.190 (-0.151)
    Player: 55.54% (G:10.87% B:0.31%)
    Opponent: 44.46% (G:9.38% B:0.30%)

    5. XG Roller++ 13/9 13/8 eq:+0.154 (-0.186)
    Player: 54.09% (G:13.43% B:0.49%)
    Opponent: 45.91% (G:11.24% B:0.37%)


    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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