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    From MK@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 14:53:54 2023
    For the past couple of months, I tried now and then
    to read some articles about XG's luck calculations,
    general topics like equity based luck, luck-adjusted
    results, etc.

    When I do a search, it displays a list of articles but
    when I click one, I get a "can't reach this page" error.

    MK

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  • From Stick Rice@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 19:52:55 2023
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, MK wrote:
    For the past couple of months, I tried now and then
    to read some articles about XG's luck calculations,
    general topics like equity based luck, luck-adjusted
    results, etc.

    When I do a search, it displays a list of articles but
    when I click one, I get a "can't reach this page" error.

    MK

    They no longer support the server that is being run for BGO which means I have to reboot it for a chance at it working. I just rebooted it now so maybe try again? It's on my to do list to find someone to get it running again. It shouldn't be that
    hard for someone who knows what they're doing but I'm not that person and that person seems harder to find than you'd think.

    Stick

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Stick Rice on Fri Mar 3 02:25:00 2023
    On March 2, 2023 at 8:52:57 PM UTC-7, Stick Rice wrote:

    On March 2, 2023 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, MK wrote:

    When I do a search, it displays a list of articles but
    when I click one, I get a "can't reach this page" error.

    They no longer support the server that is being run
    for BGO which means I have to reboot it for a chance
    at it working.

    Thanks for caring about this but who are "they" and
    "why" do they no longer support the server..?

    I just rebooted it now so maybe try again?

    Now I can't even access the search page. :(

    It's on my to do list to find someone to get it running
    again. It shouldn't be that hard for someone who
    knows what they're doing but I'm not that person
    and that person seems harder to find than you'd think.

    I wish I could help, as I value the opinions of people
    whom I consider outright stupid, since we can learn
    something unexpectedly from anyone. Times and
    technologies keep chenging and it may not make
    sense to reactivate your site but its contents have
    a great value even for people like me who mostly
    pisses on what sick gamblers discuss about...

    So how about hosting a mirror of your sites static
    content as a read only archive?

    I used to host dozens of sites as part of my business
    and I still host a few after being retired. I surely have
    the means to host a read only archive without any
    commitments and assuming that there won't be any
    security issues, etc. with doing it.

    I doubt that storage and traffic requirements will be
    any issue. I'll think about and look into it.... Feel free
    to provide more info and advice on what would it
    take to host a read only archive mirroe of your site.

    MK

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 3 23:57:28 2023
    On 3/3/2023 5:25 AM, MK wrote:
    I just rebooted it now so maybe try again?

    Now I can't even access the search page. :(

    I'm not able to get through either. It's partly because the site is
    so unstable that I took the time to back up some of my favorite articles
    to my own website.

    So how about hosting a mirror of your sites static
    content as a read only archive?

    The Wayback Machine (web.archive.org) would probably be happy to
    host a static archive of BGOnline. In fact, it has already archived
    a few of the articles:

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bgonline.org/forums/*

    But it's a rather random subset of the articles. To archive the whole
    thing, you'd probably have to contact the people who run the Wayback
    Machine. Also, you'd need to get bgonline.org up and running first so
    that the content is accessible.

    ---
    Tim Chow

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Stick Rice on Sun Mar 5 06:58:31 2023
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 12:52:57 AM UTC-3, Stick Rice wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 5:53:55 PM UTC-5, MK wrote:
    For the past couple of months, I tried now and then
    to read some articles about XG's luck calculations,
    general topics like equity based luck, luck-adjusted
    results, etc.

    When I do a search, it displays a list of articles but
    when I click one, I get a "can't reach this page" error.

    MK
    They no longer support the server that is being run for BGO which means I have to reboot it for a chance at it working. I just rebooted it now so maybe try again? It's on my to do list to find someone to get it running again. It shouldn't be that hard
    for someone who knows what they're doing but I'm not that person and that person seems harder to find than you'd think.

    Stick

    You may try rebooting it again. When a system is defective or working unexpectedly, sometimes a simple repetition does the trick, at least partially, by reversing the internal condition caused by the last reboot.

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  • From Frank Berger@21:1/5 to Grunty on Sun Mar 5 07:57:29 2023
    Grunty schrieb am Sonntag, 5. März 2023 um 15:58:33 UTC+1:

    You may try rebooting it again. When a system is defective or working unexpectedly, sometimes a simple repetition does the trick, at least partially, by reversing the internal condition caused by the last reboot.

    my 2 pennies: https://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2018/8/17/determinism

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Frank Berger on Sun Mar 5 12:10:08 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:57:31 PM UTC-3, Frank Berger wrote:
    Grunty schrieb am Sonntag, 5. März 2023 um 15:58:33 UTC+1:

    You may try rebooting it again. When a system is defective or working unexpectedly, sometimes a simple repetition does the trick, at least partially, by reversing the internal condition caused by the last reboot.

    my 2 pennies: https://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2018/8/17/determinism

    Stick, do try the method explained there.

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sun Mar 5 22:33:33 2023
    On March 3, 2023 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-7, Timothy Chow wrote:

    On 3/3/2023 5:25 AM, MK wrote:

    So how about hosting a mirror of your sites
    static content as a read only archive?

    The Wayback Machine (web.archive.org)
    would probably be happy to host a static
    archive of BGOnline.

    I didn't know that they would host entire
    sites but that would be great. There may
    be other free site hosting offerers to do it
    also but they may not be dependable and
    may inject advertising, etc.

    Also, you'd need to get bgonline.org up and
    running first so that the content is accessible.

    I'm sure stick would have a complete backup
    of it, no?

    I vaguely remember something about its BBS
    software being obsolete/abandoned. Could
    that be the problem?

    As I said, I may be willing to host it read-only
    but I can't spend time and effort to resurrect
    the data if it doesn't already exists in some
    sort of common backup format.

    MK

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