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  • Tim and Axel shown to be full of meaningless blabber.

    From MK@21:1/5 to Axel Reichert on Sun Nov 27 18:55:23 2022
    In "Math bulls Tim and Axel constipated??" thread,
    I had demonstrably exposed, once for all, that Tim
    and Axel are just full of hot air and bullshit. To give
    them another fair chance to prove otherwise, I am
    posting it again on a new slate, clean of distracting
    comments.

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    In my thread "Need help with gamblegammon formulas/calculations",

    On November 19, 2022 at 9:32:07 AM UTC+1, Axel Reichert wrote:

    MK <[email protected]> writes:

    if there was as much cube skill as hyped, random
    cube player could not achieve a 15% win rate...

    Try to estimate how often a game will be played to
    conclusion and then think about what this amounts
    to with equal checker play. No surprise here.

    And I had asked Axel some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/AwI9RYDHLcs/m/2pmWWudFBgAJ

    In my other thread "My experiment to compare checker skill vs cube skill in gamblegammon",

    On November 16, 2022 at 3:45:15 PM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 11/16/2022 3:18 AM, MK wrote:

    Scenario 3: grandmaster vs random checker + grandmaster cube.
    After 500 games: gnubg = 1462, mutant = 4 points

    Scenario 4: grandmaster vs grandmaster checker + random cube.
    After 503 games: gnubg = 2136, mutant = 873 points

    If you found these results surprising then you have a
    long way to go before you achieve any understanding
    of this topic. Your results are completely in line with
    what the conventional wisdom would predict.

    And I had asked Tim some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/i53IQfeJ_iE/m/UW_7Fc8NBgAJ

    Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
    questions even though you have been posting in other
    threads.

    I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

    If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
    you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

    Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
    jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

    MK

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 28 08:41:38 2022
    On 11/27/2022 9:55 PM, MK wrote:
    In "Math bulls Tim and Axel constipated??" thread,
    I had demonstrably exposed, once for all, that Tim
    and Axel are just full of hot air and bullshit.

    This was already a well-known fact. Why did you feel the need
    to "expose" it?

    By now you should have learned that you can't force us to produce
    intelligent responses with invective. All that does is cause us
    to smile, munch on popcorn, and provoke you to spew more hilarious
    nonsense. It's a lot more fun!

    Oh wait, I forgot...you're not provoked. You're not going to
    respond to this message with an insult-laden rant. You're above
    that sort of thing, right? Saint R.B. Sahi, you are! But maybe
    you can enlist one of your sock-puppets to respond on your behalf?

    ---
    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Mon Nov 28 17:54:19 2022
    On November 28, 2022 at 6:41:39 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 11/27/2022 9:55 PM, MK wrote:

    In "Math bulls Tim and Axel constipated??" thread,
    I had demonstrably exposed, once for all, that Tim
    and Axel are just full of hot air and bullshit.

    This was already a well-known fact. Why
    did you feel the need to "expose" it?

    I don't know how you knew that it was known well
    and by whom (other than you and me) but I didn't.
    So, I wanted (not needed) to let readers know that
    I had exposed you and Axel in a previous thread.

    By now you should have learned that you can't force
    us to produce intelligent responses with invective.

    There was no "invective" in the thread that I linked
    to but you still weren't capable of "producing an
    intelligent response" to my asking you how efficient
    could you be using your "conventional wisdom", if I
    gave you the detailed settings for a pair of bot play
    levels, in predicting their win/lose results and you
    instead went mute... ;)

    There was no "invective" in the thread that I linked
    about Axel either. I had asked him if/how he could
    estimate how often games are played to conclusion
    and then calculate what win rate it would amount to.
    He wasn't able to "produce an intelligent response"
    either and instead he also went mute... :)

    to smile, munch on popcorn, and provoke you to
    spew more hilarious nonsense. It's a lot more fun!

    Since you speak for both of you by saying "us", can
    you tell me what else other funs and pleasures you
    two may be sharing...?

    Oh wait, I forgot...you're not provoked. You're not
    going to respond to this message with an insult-
    laden rant. You're above that sort of thing, right?

    No, but if you want me to respond to you with and
    insult-laden rant, you either need to try harder to
    provoke me or get on your knees and beg.

    Saint R.B. Sahi, you are!

    Once again, I'm deeply sorry for all the traumata that
    I have caused you. Can you forgive me?

    But maybe you can enlist one of your sock-puppets
    to respond on your behalf?

    I wouldn't even think about interfering with anyone
    else's enjoying the satisfaction of being personally
    provoked and/or begged by you... ;)

    MK

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Tue Nov 29 22:29:23 2022
    On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-3, Tim Chow wrote:
    On 11/27/2022 9:55 PM, MK wrote:
    Tim and Axel are just full of hot air and bullshit.
    By now you should have learned that you can't force us to produce
    intelligent responses with invective. All that does is cause us
    to smile, munch on popcorn, and provoke you to spew more hilarious
    nonsense. It's a lot more fun!

    What's the fun in replying to an endlessly argumentative chimneys collector? Your life must be deadly boring.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Grunty on Wed Nov 30 07:36:45 2022
    On 11/30/2022 1:29 AM, Grunty wrote:
    What's the fun in replying to an endlessly argumentative chimneys collector? Your life must be deadly boring.

    Not at all...if I find even Murat entertaining, don't you think
    I find the rest of life even more fun than a barrel full of monkeys?

    ---
    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Grunty on Sun Dec 4 18:58:25 2022
    On November 29, 2022 at 11:29:24 PM UTC-7, Grunty wrote:

    On November 28, 2022 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-3, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 11/27/2022 9:55 PM, MK wrote:

    Tim and Axel are just full of hot air and bullshit.

    By now you should have learned that you can't
    force us to produce intelligent responses with
    invective.

    What's the fun in replying to an endlessly
    argumentative chimneys collector?

    I didn't assert that they were wrong baselessly
    but asked them to substantiate the claims that
    they had made. I said they are full of hot air and
    bullshit only after they failed to do so, (in Tim's
    words "failed to produce intelligent responses").

    This is not being argumentative on my part but
    as a member of the pack of mentally ill dogs,
    you came out of your hole to your ilk's rescue. ;)

    And, lo and behold!, just as I had said you sick
    puppies do when you run out of arguments, (i.e.
    detract from the subject, resort to childish name
    calling sprees, etc.), in your case here this time,
    you did it by calling me a "chimneys collector". :)

    You are pathetic! :(

    MK

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