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    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 12 05:36:23 2022
    In a non-Jacoby money game played optimally, what is the earliest point
    in the game that TG can arise?

    Thank You.

    Paul

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  • From Stick Rice@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Nov 12 12:19:47 2022
    On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:36:24 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    In a non-Jacoby money game played optimally, what is the earliest point
    in the game that TG can arise?

    Thank You.

    Paul

    Before the player who did not win the opening roll's second roll. XX-XX-XX-TG

    Stick

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Stick Rice on Sat Nov 12 18:36:28 2022
    On 11/12/2022 3:19 PM, Stick Rice wrote:
    On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:36:24 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    In a non-Jacoby money game played optimally, what is the earliest point
    in the game that TG can arise?

    Before the player who did not win the opening roll's second roll. XX-XX-XX-TG

    Wait, really? In a money game played optimally? I can get an
    example like that with non-optimal play:

    8/3 8/2
    24/23*/22* 6/5(2)
    Fan

    And with one more roll I can get it with optimal play:

    8/5 6/5
    24/18 13/10
    24/18(2) 13/7*(2)
    Fan

    But I don't see how to get the example you claim.

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Stick Rice@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Sat Nov 12 17:06:20 2022
    On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:36:30 PM UTC-5, Tim Chow wrote:
    On 11/12/2022 3:19 PM, Stick Rice wrote:
    On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:36:24 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    In a non-Jacoby money game played optimally, what is the earliest point
    in the game that TG can arise?

    Before the player who did not win the opening roll's second roll. XX-XX-XX-TG
    Wait, really? In a money game played optimally? I can get an
    example like that with non-optimal play:

    8/3 8/2
    24/23*/22* 6/5(2)
    Fan

    And with one more roll I can get it with optimal play:

    8/5 6/5
    24/18 13/10
    24/18(2) 13/7*(2)
    Fan

    But I don't see how to get the example you claim.

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    Tim Chow

    My bad, didn't see the word optimally.

    Stick

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