It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots of
other places. Close to home too.
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of
really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots
of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of
really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php >>>>
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots
of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal
folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt.
Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me.
Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots.
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
No. But they might well all be wrong
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 12/2/2023 11:20 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:Do you "belong" to any "group" at all, Tim?
On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of
really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php >>>>>>
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal
folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt.
Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me.
Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots.
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
No. But they might well all be wrong
[RGP does not count.]
If you mean religious, the answer is not at all, although I do hang around with a number of UU's.
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:06:48 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 12/4/2023 10:59 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:Would you consider UU's as "religious"? How about MAGA? Why or why not
On 12/2/2023 11:20 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Do you "belong" to any "group" at all, Tim?
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal >>>>>> folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
No. But they might well all be wrong
[RGP does not count.]
If you mean religious, the answer is not at all, although I do hang around with a number of UU's.
for both? Or the Romans in the really old days? Genghis Khan
followers? Others of interest? Hippies? Jim Jones folks? Big Bang
believers?
UU - Some.
MAGA - Not as such, although there is a lot of overlap with evangelicals. Romans - Yes
Yes - as animists
Hippies - perhaps
Jim Jones followers - yes
Big Bang is a scientific theory, so any religious belief is independent of that. However, a lot of disbelief of the theory is because of religious belief.
On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:20:26 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 12/5/2023 2:29 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:06:48 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:How confident are you in your "beliefs" as being the "truth"?
On 12/4/2023 10:59 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/2/2023 11:20 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:Would you consider UU's as "religious"? How about MAGA? Why or why not >>>> for both? Or the Romans in the really old days? Genghis Khan
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Do you "belong" to any "group" at all, Tim?
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was >>>>>>>> actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal >>>>>>>> folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>>>
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
No. But they might well all be wrong
[RGP does not count.]
If you mean religious, the answer is not at all, although I do hang around with a number of UU's.
followers? Others of interest? Hippies? Jim Jones folks? Big Bang
believers?
UU - Some.
MAGA - Not as such, although there is a lot of overlap with evangelicals. >>> Romans - Yes
Yes - as animists
Hippies - perhaps
Jim Jones followers - yes
Big Bang is a scientific theory, so any religious belief is independent of that. However, a lot of disbelief of the theory is because of religious belief.
Fairly confident that they are the best model of reality at present. Anyone who is absolutely sure of anything outside the realm of some Mathematics is deluding themselves.
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of
really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php >>>>
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots
of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal
folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt.
Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me.
Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots.
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
Not any that claim the Bible, Koran, etc. as the Word of God
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:15:47 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 12/6/2023 10:19 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:20:26 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:You have shown you have strong mathematical skills, Tim (except for the
On 12/5/2023 2:29 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:06:48 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/4/2023 10:59 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:How confident are you in your "beliefs" as being the "truth"?
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/2/2023 11:20 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:Would you consider UU's as "religious"? How about MAGA? Why or why not >>>>>> for both? Or the Romans in the really old days? Genghis Khan
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Do you "belong" to any "group" at all, Tim?
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was >>>>>>>>>> actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely. >>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots
of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>>>>>
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
No. But they might well all be wrong
[RGP does not count.]
If you mean religious, the answer is not at all, although I do hang around with a number of UU's.
followers? Others of interest? Hippies? Jim Jones folks? Big Bang
believers?
UU - Some.
MAGA - Not as such, although there is a lot of overlap with evangelicals. >>>>> Romans - Yes
Yes - as animists
Hippies - perhaps
Jim Jones followers - yes
Big Bang is a scientific theory, so any religious belief is independent of that. However, a lot of disbelief of the theory is because of religious belief.
Fairly confident that they are the best model of reality at present. Anyone who is absolutely sure of anything outside the realm of some Mathematics is deluding themselves.
Say Red slip), but you do seem to express an almost religious belief in
your political pronouncements as well as other areas not subject to
mathematical calculation. You might ponder your commitment to those ideas.
You know nothing about probability, but unfortunately think that you do, which makes actual learning much more difficult.
On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:28:34 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
On 12/7/2023 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:Another dodge of the actual subject ... you are becoming "predictable".
On 12/6/2023 10:17 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Well, you have "spoken" that mathematics is sort of your word of god ... >>>> but you venture into "politics" with quite strong "opinions" as if they >>>> were "the truth". Almost religious about it.
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal >>>>>> folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
Not any that claim the Bible, Koran, etc. as the Word of God
Pure Mathematics is the only venue in which you can actually prove things beyond all reasonable doubt.
"all" "reasonable" "doubt" and of course "prove" ... (and all the other
"words" you use). "venue" ... ??? ... really?
The "word" "table" is NOT a table. It is just a description of an
expression of a belief of a "thing".
Just like 1+1=2 and 1+1=10 are both correct ... but only if the teller
and the listener are on the same "page" of the "conversation".
Often, people "like" you sometimes make a mistake and do not want to
simply admit it but rather like to just change the "words" around to
avoid the "obvious" MISTAKE you have made.
Religious people are able to do that too ... your "belief" system allow
you to remain "true" to your owe "beliefs" even when you are challenged.
Answer the door, the Jehovah Witness is at the front with a pamphlet.
[They actually have some really interesting ideas ... all religious
folks I know have some really interesting ideas. But you have to not be
so preoccupied with your own perfection to listen to the words and
comprehend the ideas behind the words they choose.]
Arrogant, plus an idiot.
On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:25:12 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:28:34 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:.
On 12/7/2023 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>> On 12/6/2023 10:17 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:Another dodge of the actual subject ... you are becoming "predictable".
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Well, you have "spoken" that mathematics is sort of your word of god ... >>>>> but you venture into "politics" with quite strong "opinions" as if they >>>>> were "the truth". Almost religious about it.
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was >>>>>>> actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal >>>>>>> folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>>
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
Not any that claim the Bible, Koran, etc. as the Word of God
Pure Mathematics is the only venue in which you can actually prove things beyond all reasonable doubt.
"all" "reasonable" "doubt" and of course "prove" ... (and all the other
"words" you use). "venue" ... ??? ... really?
The "word" "table" is NOT a table. It is just a description of an
expression of a belief of a "thing".
Just like 1+1=2 and 1+1=10 are both correct ... but only if the teller
and the listener are on the same "page" of the "conversation".
Often, people "like" you sometimes make a mistake and do not want to
simply admit it but rather like to just change the "words" around to
avoid the "obvious" MISTAKE you have made.
Religious people are able to do that too ... your "belief" system allow
you to remain "true" to your owe "beliefs" even when you are challenged. >>>
Answer the door, the Jehovah Witness is at the front with a pamphlet.
[They actually have some really interesting ideas ... all religious
folks I know have some really interesting ideas. But you have to not be
so preoccupied with your own perfection to listen to the words and
comprehend the ideas behind the words they choose.]
Arrogant, plus an idiot..
You were warned. How much more of your (obviously more valuable than his) time will you waist on him and his embarrassingly wounded ego?
On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 7:40:23 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/8/2023 2:25 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:.
On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:28:34 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:As predicted. You describe yourself ... arrogant ... idiot.
On 12/7/2023 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 9:18:41 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/6/2023 10:17 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:Another dodge of the actual subject ... you are becoming "predictable". >>>>
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:23:02 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/28/2023 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:Well, you have "spoken" that mathematics is sort of your word of god ... >>>>>> but you venture into "politics" with quite strong "opinions" as if they >>>>>> were "the truth". Almost religious about it.
On 11/23/2023 8:58 AM, da pickle wrote:Still no comments ... how about those "Roman Catholics" ... I was >>>>>>>> actually raised in the RC church. Jesuit high school. Tried Episcopal >>>>>>>> folks too ... Catholic-light ... twice the fun with half the guilt. >>>>>>>> Unitarians were quite interesting ... a little too political for me. >>>>>>>> Almost all people, religious or not, fall into all sorts of slots. >>>>>>>>
It would seem the "Jews" have been there a long time with lots of >>>>>>>>>> really challenging attempts to eradicate them completely.
https://www.ducksters.com/geography/country/israel_history_timeline.php
Things do change, of course ... how about "natives" in lots and lots >>>>>>>>>> of other places. Close to home too.
Read it again
Can any "one" group really be the "only" correct one?
Not any that claim the Bible, Koran, etc. as the Word of God
Pure Mathematics is the only venue in which you can actually prove things beyond all reasonable doubt.
"all" "reasonable" "doubt" and of course "prove" ... (and all the other >>>> "words" you use). "venue" ... ??? ... really?
The "word" "table" is NOT a table. It is just a description of an
expression of a belief of a "thing".
Just like 1+1=2 and 1+1=10 are both correct ... but only if the teller >>>> and the listener are on the same "page" of the "conversation".
Often, people "like" you sometimes make a mistake and do not want to
simply admit it but rather like to just change the "words" around to
avoid the "obvious" MISTAKE you have made.
Religious people are able to do that too ... your "belief" system allow >>>> you to remain "true" to your owe "beliefs" even when you are challenged. >>>>
Answer the door, the Jehovah Witness is at the front with a pamphlet.
[They actually have some really interesting ideas ... all religious
folks I know have some really interesting ideas. But you have to not be >>>> so preoccupied with your own perfection to listen to the words and
comprehend the ideas behind the words they choose.]
Arrogant, plus an idiot.
You simply will not listen ... just blab ... like some others.
See?
On December 6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
Anyone who is absolutely sure of anything outside the realm of some Mathematics
is deluding themselves.
Depends on one's definition of "absolutely sure". For instance,
one might define reality as one's direct sense perceptions.
Thus, I'm absolutely sure that my eyes burned every time I looked
at the sun. No math required.
I'm not so sure the earth is round, though I do believe so, as it
seems more reasonable and useful than agnosticism concerning
this question.
And no, I don't regard photographs from the moon as "absolute
sure" of the earth's roundness. I regard those as pictures, which
I'm absolutely sure I've seen.
--
Rich
On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:00:56 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
On 12/8/2023 6:05 PM, RichD wrote:
On December 6, Tim Norfolk wrote:Maybe the earth is not "absolutely" round ... be careful about that sun
Anyone who is absolutely sure of anything outside the realm of some Mathematics
is deluding themselves.
Depends on one's definition of "absolutely sure". For instance,
one might define reality as one's direct sense perceptions.
Thus, I'm absolutely sure that my eyes burned every time I looked
at the sun. No math required.
I'm not so sure the earth is round, though I do believe so, as it
seems more reasonable and useful than agnosticism concerning
this question.
And no, I don't regard photographs from the moon as "absolute
sure" of the earth's roundness. I regard those as pictures, which
I'm absolutely sure I've seen.
--
Rich
watching stuff.
Tim does not like to have any of his ideas challenged.
I am "pretty" sure about that. He does seem to have great difficulty
accepting that he is not omnipotent. Maybe that is too harsh. My
apologies, Tim.
Your never ending thread which has run off 90% of RGP participants shows you are both clinically insane. That said, Tim is correct and you are wrong.
And no, I won’t play you for $100 on a coin flip. And I will not engage in 5000+ stupid shit posts. JFC see a doctor.
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