• Interesting things

    From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 13:46:37 2023
    about the new hobby. The number of exploitable games is... I don't know. It's a lot more than I expected. Some of these are known and others I have to figure out (and remember) myself. I haven't worked this much learning about gambling since my
    early days of vp. There's a fair bit of detective work and research. Unlike vp there are no tools and few over the counter sources for education.

    It's good exercise. I played a large casino for a day a while back and my phone tells me I walked 10 miles. All inside and gambling. You do a lot more scooting than shooting.

    Other hustlers. Mostly pokers looking for plays that are a quick couple of bets and not seeing other stuff. Some are specialists who camp out at a bank of machines and wait for people to leave. They are missing every other opportunity in the casino.

    It's been fun and interesting and profitable. I can do this. I don't have the math chops to be great at it, but I can be good enough.

    C

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Sep 5 15:02:06 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    At places like the Bellagio, security guards are busting APs balls. Fucking assholes. They got nothing better to do than look for people checking screens.

    They get protective about slot cheats. I was once at the D waiting in line for a cheap show with the kids and decided to sit down at a slot for a few min. As soon as I went back to the line with my kids an army of security and alot techs swarmed the
    machine I was sitting at....they looked surprised that they didn't find anything and then they looked at me standing in line and I think they figured out I was just taking a break for a minute....never talked to me once, but they sure as hell thought i
    was doing something.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Tue Sep 5 14:44:17 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    about the new hobby. The number of exploitable games is... I don't know. It's a lot more than I expected. Some of these are known and others I have to figure out (and remember) myself. I haven't worked this much learning about gambling since my early
    days of vp. There's a fair bit of detective work and research. Unlike vp there are no tools and few over the counter sources for education.

    It's good exercise. I played a large casino for a day a while back and my phone tells me I walked 10 miles. All inside and gambling. You do a lot more scooting than shooting.

    Other hustlers. Mostly pokers looking for plays that are a quick couple of bets and not seeing other stuff. Some are specialists who camp out at a bank of machines and wait for people to leave. They are missing every other opportunity in the casino.

    It's been fun and interesting and profitable. I can do this. I don't have the math chops to be great at it, but I can be good enough.

    C


    At places like the Bellagio, security guards are busting APs balls. Fucking assholes. They got nothing better to do than look for people checking screens.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Wed Sep 6 14:33:46 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an hour.
    The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C


    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Sep 6 14:16:59 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    about the new hobby. The number of exploitable games is... I don't know. It's a lot more than I expected. Some of these are known and others I have to figure out (and remember) myself. I haven't worked this much learning about gambling since my early
    days of vp. There's a fair bit of detective work and research. Unlike vp there are no tools and few over the counter sources for education.

    It's good exercise. I played a large casino for a day a while back and my phone tells me I walked 10 miles. All inside and gambling. You do a lot more scooting than shooting.

    Other hustlers. Mostly pokers looking for plays that are a quick couple of bets and not seeing other stuff. Some are specialists who camp out at a bank of machines and wait for people to leave. They are missing every other opportunity in the casino.

    It's been fun and interesting and profitable. I can do this. I don't have the math chops to be great at it, but I can be good enough.

    C
    At places like the Bellagio, security guards are busting APs balls. Fucking assholes. They got nothing better to do than look for people checking screens.

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an hour.
    The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Sep 6 16:16:38 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.

    Could you explain to us these "plays" you are seeing?

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Sep 6 18:59:16 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.


    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Sep 6 19:02:35 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:42 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Could you explain to us these "plays" you are seeing?


    Jack, like I just told "C", this is not really something you want out of the bag. Video poker saw great times 20 years ago, but that is dying. Other APs is something we need protected as long as possible.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 7 06:27:55 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 9:02:40 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:42 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Could you explain to us these "plays" you are seeing?
    Jack, like I just told "C", this is not really something you want out of the bag. Video poker saw great times 20 years ago, but that is dying. Other APs is something we need protected as long as possible.

    If I were living in Vegas I could probably play vp and grind out a profit. Many gamblers were secretive about vp plays, but slots are a different animal. More like a team pointing out to outsiders which dealer is vulnerable to hole carding maybe. It
    doesn't happen often.

    C

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 7 06:32:04 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.

    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Thu Sep 7 09:30:41 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 6:28:01 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 9:02:40 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:42 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for
    an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Could you explain to us these "plays" you are seeing?
    Jack, like I just told "C", this is not really something you want out of the bag. Video poker saw great times 20 years ago, but that is dying. Other APs is something we need protected as long as possible.
    .

    If I were living in Vegas I could probably play vp and grind out a profit.
    .

    LOL! Yea, you're the ones that help keep our light on...
    .
    .
    .


    Many gamblers were secretive about vp plays, but slots are a different animal. More like a team pointing out to outsiders which dealer is vulnerable to hole carding maybe. It doesn't happen often.

    C

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Sep 7 10:38:58 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:30:45 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:


    LOL! Yea, you're the ones that help keep our light on...


    Fuck you, Jerry, you're a child. Why don't you just stay out of the conversation. You don't know fuck.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Thu Sep 7 12:44:30 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for an
    hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C

    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 7 13:08:05 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:39:02 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:30:45 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:


    LOL! Yea, you're the ones that help keep our light on...
    .

    Fuck you, Jerry, you're a child. Why don't you just stay out of the conversation. You don't know fuck.

    I know I worked in a Las Vegas casino and we laughed at you "live ones" that thought you could be our system...

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Sep 7 20:38:07 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:08:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    I know I worked in a Las Vegas casino and we laughed at you "live ones" that thought you could be our system...


    Suck my cock.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 7 22:00:04 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:08:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    I know I worked in a Las Vegas casino and we laughed at you "live ones" that thought you could be our system...
    Suck my cock.

    I wonder how much I've laughed at Casino employees over the years. I actually look forward to dealers misbehaving to I can instantly stiff them for life. I've probably stiffed every single dealer at Orleans...and must drive them nuts because I toke
    every single cocktails girl. I also get to laugh at every vegas poker player. So many times I've showed up to vegas and had a vegas regular outright try to tell me how great they are and how a tourist like me just shows up to hand them my money....
    doesn't even occur to them when they are running into seasoned LA players who'll destroy them. But, the moron jerry said he was a shill.....I actually played a shill in vegas...and knowing that he couldn't call my bets no matter what, I always raised
    him to get him out of the pot. I've had shills sitting there thinking how great they are and stupid I am because I'm raising their nuts hands...them stalling at the table and showing the dealer how they have the nuts....meanwhile, I'm stealing the
    blinds. Hope the shill enjoyed his free drinks. About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill is a min wage shill who thinks he's somehow in that position yet has "juice".
    Would love the moron to tell us about all the juice he has. Let's see....I've been juiced into the Hilton Superbowl party. That's a tough invite. I've been juiced into the final table of the $10K WSOP final back in the old days when it was in a tent
    at Binions and was impossible to get in. Would love to hear the shill tell us about pulling off little tricks like that....simple for me....might be tough for a shill though.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Sep 8 01:55:54 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:00:09 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill

    Jerry, what a winner. Did you ever catch the story about him and his son licking the tits of a dancer at Glitter Gulch and getting deathly sick later? lol

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Sep 8 02:17:43 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:00:09 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill
    Jerry, what a winner. Did you ever catch the story about him and his son licking the tits of a dancer at Glitter Gulch and getting deathly sick later? lol

    He must have missed the CSI episode where those whores put KO drops, etc on their nipples. twoplustwo.com had a great "ask me anything" thread where a strip club manager was taking questions and he told the most horrific stories about his strip club
    days. In a different section was a good thread on the Panorama condos behind bellagio and stories about the poker pros and strippers there who seemingly all moonlighted as hookers to those poker "pros".
    Might have posted this here already but this was a very informative video on the working girl scene in Vegas...learned all kinds of shit I didn't know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAlXdyjmWUo&t=102s

    But, back to Jerry....he's terminal....so I imagine he can spew what little money he has left on the girls and not worry about HIV taking him. I actually had a lot of respect for Jeff Pierz who did nothing but play poker and bang every nasty hooker in
    vegas for decades. I remember him stiffing dealers 100% of the time and always moving away from the blind to avoid posting. I figured that saved him about $15k-20K/yr. That's a lot of extra whores he bought by doing that. Last time I saw him, he
    was taking a truckload of meds at the table...pills I've never seen before and I heard he died on a Christmas. Lived life like he wanted to and got away with it. Gotta give him his props. Here I am the schmuck who did everything the right way.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Sep 8 12:04:35 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:08:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    I know I worked in a Las Vegas casino and we laughed at you "live ones" that thought you could be our system...
    Suck my cock.
    .

    The one of yours that's running around peach orchids in Dinuba?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Sep 8 12:51:30 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:00:09 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill
    .

    Jerry, what a winner.

    Thank you. In my 25-year of retirement. Living in Summerlin. Pool, hot tub, haven't turned a lick in all those years. Just golf, poker, racquetball, the club,
    and hitting the casinos. I'm a Successful winner.
    .

    Did you ever catch the story about him and his son licking the tits of a dancer at
    Glitter Gulch and getting deathly sick later? lol

    Dancer'(S). Yea, my son is a Las Vegas success, too. Summerlin, pool, hot tub...

    That doesn't bother you, does it? It sure does your butt buddy, Jack rOff.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Sep 8 13:08:46 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 2:17:48 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:00:09 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill
    Jerry, what a winner. Did you ever catch the story about him and his son licking the tits of a dancer at Glitter Gulch and getting deathly sick later? lol
    .

    He must have missed the CSI episode where those whores put KO drops, etc on their nipples.

    See Paul? He still doesn't understand Vegas; much less what a Micky Finn is.
    .


    But, back to Jerry....he's terminal....
    .

    See again, Paul? This idiot is sucking you into his embarrassments… You like that?
    .

    so I imagine he can spew what little money he has left …

    Yea, in my 25th year of retirement, in Summerlin, four streams of income, bitch-slapping you into Running & Hiding.
    .


    I actually had a lot of respect for Jeff Pierz who did nothing but play poker and bang every
    nasty hooker in vegas for decades. I remember him stiffing dealers 100% of the time and
    always moving away from the blind to avoid posting. I figured that saved him about $15k-20K/yr.

    See again? I TOLD you he didn’t understand blinds or how they work. He just PROVED it. AGAIN.
    (Damn! I’m into triple digit bitch-slaps on this Jerk rOff).

    And can’t wait for his non-replies….

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Sep 8 12:43:54 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:00:09 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 8:38:12 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 1:08:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    I know I worked in a Las Vegas casino and we laughed at you "live ones" that thought you could be our system...
    Suck my cock.
    .

    I wonder how much I've laughed at Casino employees over the years.

    Wonder because it was us, laughing at you, “Gaming the system!” LOL!
    .

    I actually look forward to dealers misbehaving to I can instantly stiff them for life.
    .

    “Stiff them for life?” Heh. See what I mean about this idiot’s delusions of grandeur?
    He’s ‘smarter,’ than the pro (millionaire) poker players. He’s smarter than the Floor Managers.
    He’s smarter than the dealers. He’s smarter than the casino itself. Just ask him.

    *** Only in his delusional mind. ***
    .

    I've probably stiffed every single dealer at Orleans...
    .

    See? An obvious lie, but he actually believes it because he’s a sick fuck. BillB and I
    have repeatedly grabbed him by the nap of his yellow little neck, bent him over, and
    Rubbed his nose in his own lies and errors.. ** He just dodges, and starts over with
    something else with a new bunch of grandiose streams of bullshit like here.
    .

    and must drive them nuts because I toke every single cocktails girl.

    See again? What kind of sick fuck expects anybody to believe that shit?
    .


    I also get to laugh at every vegas poker player.

    Heh, The Idiot Gift that keeps on giving… To “every” Vegas poker player.

    (Easiest bitch slap in town…)

    Look how sick this fuck is:
    .

    So many times I've showed up to vegas and had a vegas regular outright try to tell me
    how great they are

    Heh. We all line up at the edge of town and wait for him to stop so we ALL can tell him
    how great we are. (See how ill this idiot is? We can’t help making fun of him).
    and how a tourist like me just shows up to hand them my money....doesn't even occur to them
    when they are running into seasoned LA players who'll destroy them.

    See the delusions? Wow…
    .


    But, the moron jerry said he was a shill.....

    “But” I was. And we STILL laughed at Live Ones like you. No one EVER came out ahead at our tables.
    .


    I actually played a shill in vegas...and knowing that he couldn't call my bets no matter what,
    I always raised him to get him out of the pot.
    .

    A tourist that “always raised.” Heh.
    And he thought a shill couldn’t call?
    And he ‘thinks’ he even knows what a Shill is?
    .


    I've had shills sitting there thinking how great they are…

    See what I mean about delusions this idiot has?
    “He knows what you’re thinking!”

    LOL! This guy advertises how sick he is…
    .

    and stupid I am because I'm raising their nuts hands...

    (And still doesn’t know what ‘the nuts’ means, much less thinking we couldn’t call or raise).
    .
    .

    them stalling at the table and showing the dealer how they have
    the nuts....meanwhile, I'm stealing the blinds.

    And no understanding of blinds or how they work…
    (I love poking him with an Idiot Stick, just to see more of his delusions of grandeur).
    .

    Hope the shill enjoyed his free drinks.

    Shills didn’t get free drinks, idiot.
    (Let me count the bitch-slaps on this fool……)
    .


    About the only thing more pathetic than a min wage shill

    And no understanding that we weren’t ‘minimum wage….’

    is a min wage shill who thinks he's somehow in that position yet has "juice".
    .

    No. More pathetic is you STILL not understanding it was juice that got me that job.
    Or is it you don’t understand “Juice” any more than everything else we’ve shown you
    don’t understand?
    .

    Would love the moron to tell us about all the juice he has.

    I did. “Would love” to see you answer anything from Bill or I.
    But all you do is dodge and run….. And we LOVE pointing that out.
    .


    Let's see....I've been juiced into the Hilton Superbowl party. That's a tough invite.
    I've been juiced into the final table of the $10K WSOP final back in the old days
    when it was in a tent at Binions and was impossible to get in.

    *** LOL! I TOLD. “Juiced into a final table?”

    You need any more proof that he doens’t know what Juice means.
    He just PROVED it.***

    Poke this fool and give him enough rope and he’ll embarrass himself all day. And – and you can see every day, - I just LOVE doing it..

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sun Sep 10 22:24:56 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:22:27 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:


    By the way, I hit the "Grand" today and the Pigs. $760.

    typo: "AT the Pigs.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Sun Sep 10 22:22:23 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.


    I am already seeing signs, in my local market. I know the competition is fierce in Vegas. In my local market, there was an abundance of "numbers" in certain games only months ago. This past week I saw a lot of dry spots. And it annoys me to no end
    when I'm sitting at a machine and see some yokel come by and speed check the machine on both sides of me. There may be several denoms and several buttons for each one, and these mutherfuckers come by and check them ALL, in seconds, and then walk away.
    Well what were you looking for, mutherfucker? Suddenly you have all these assholes who think they're going to quit their job and make a living playing slots. And there's not enough for everyone. Too many APs, just don't compute.

    By the way, I hit the "Grand" today and the Pigs. $760.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Sep 11 05:55:05 2023
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 2:44:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there for
    an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C
    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.
    Who's going to take care of the chickens!!!! This will be our second trip this year, but that is unusual these days. We got an offer it was hard to say no to. Last time was Cosmopolitan and Circa, but this time the D. Where are you staying?

    C

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Sep 11 05:51:08 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:22:27 AM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    I am already seeing signs, in my local market. I know the competition is fierce in Vegas. In my local market, there was an abundance of "numbers" in certain games only months ago. This past week I saw a lot of dry spots. And it annoys me to no end when
    I'm sitting at a machine and see some yokel come by and speed check the machine on both sides of me. There may be several denoms and several buttons for each one, and these mutherfuckers come by and check them ALL, in seconds, and then walk away. Well
    what were you looking for, mutherfucker? Suddenly you have all these assholes who think they're going to quit their job and make a living playing slots. And there's not enough for everyone. Too many APs, just don't compute.

    By the way, I hit the "Grand" today and the Pigs. $760.

    I see plenty of pokers. Some casinos more than others. They miss things, though. Mostly their knowledge is less perfect than mine, and my knowledge is a long feckin way from perfect. A real long way.

    I remember a grim faced old Asian lady checking machines at Horseshoe last trip. And years ago a poker player at the Venetian grinding an NL table playing through a migraine. My buddy gave him some ibuprofen. Gambling looks like an awful way to make a
    living. Sometimes it leaves me empty even as a hobby. I'll shoot you an e mail about Vegas conditions later when I get caught up with work.

    Counter point to your pigs glory. Just back from a long casino weekend in Southwest Michigan/Northwest Indiana. I found a piggy play at 4.50. Free games were high and other pigs were maxed out. Other pigs hit individually for minimal pays and I was
    on about my eighth C note in. Wife looked at me and asked if you are going to keep going? It was still a play. Sometimes there comes a moment that you know you are not likely to make money even if you hit, but it's still plus EV. It was a grim slog.
    Sometime after my twelfth C note I hit the games and progressives at the same time. Middle meters were pretty juicy at this point. It paid for $750. A net loss of almost $400. It could have gone worse.... which pretty well summarizes the gambling
    for the weekend.

    C

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Mon Sep 11 08:51:48 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 2:44:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there
    for an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C
    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.
    Who's going to take care of the chickens!!!! This will be our second trip this year, but that is unusual these days. We got an offer it was hard to say no to. Last time was Cosmopolitan and Circa, but this time the D. Where are you staying?

    C

    Staying at the Nugget. It will be my brother's first time in town, and I wanted to give him the feel of the old times. The chickens, goats, donkey, dogs and cats will be catered to by our son.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Sep 11 11:51:05 2023
    On 9/8/2023 3:08 PM, VegasJerry wrote:

    And can’t wait for his non-replies….

    We have yours

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Mon Sep 11 18:59:08 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:51:13 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    I remember a grim faced old Asian lady checking machines at Horseshoe last trip. And years ago a poker player at the Venetian grinding an NL table playing through a migraine. My buddy gave him some ibuprofen. Gambling looks like an awful way to make a
    living. Sometimes it leaves me empty even as a hobby. I'll shoot you an e mail about Vegas conditions later when I get caught up with work.

    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when they
    needed to pay rent. I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day. It was glorious.



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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Sep 12 09:08:53 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:59:13 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:51:13 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    I remember a grim faced old Asian lady checking machines at Horseshoe last trip. And years ago a poker player at the Venetian grinding an NL table playing through a migraine. My buddy gave him some ibuprofen. Gambling looks like an awful way to make
    a living. Sometimes it leaves me empty even as a hobby. I'll shoot you an e mail about Vegas conditions later when I get caught up with work.
    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when they
    needed to pay rent. I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day. It was glorious.
    .

    https://www.kornferry.com/insights/briefings-magazine/issue-22/overcoming-self-delusion

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Sep 13 14:32:04 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:59:13 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:51:13 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    I remember a grim faced old Asian lady checking machines at Horseshoe last trip. And years ago a poker player at the Venetian grinding an NL table playing through a migraine. My buddy gave him some ibuprofen. Gambling looks like an awful way to make
    a living. Sometimes it leaves me empty even as a hobby. I'll shoot you an e mail about Vegas conditions later when I get caught up with work.
    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when they
    needed to pay rent. I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day. It was glorious.

    When I have people threaten my life I don't consider it a good day. Guess I'm more suited for machine play.

    C

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Sep 13 14:25:25 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:51:54 AM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 2:44:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be there
    for an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C
    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.
    Who's going to take care of the chickens!!!! This will be our second trip this year, but that is unusual these days. We got an offer it was hard to say no to. Last time was Cosmopolitan and Circa, but this time the D. Where are you staying?

    C
    Staying at the Nugget. It will be my brother's first time in town, and I wanted to give him the feel of the old times. The chickens, goats, donkey, dogs and cats will be catered to by our son.
    There's not much of the old Vegas left, for better and worse. Not sure if GN qualifies. I got married in one of their Spa tower suites 20+ years ago. We resurrected Elvis for the occasion. We stayed in one again a year ago. Mostly the same. They
    haven't put much into redecorating or replacing. I've changed. Going up and down the spiral stairs pissed me off.

    So what is the donkey for? Do you milk it? Does it carry bags of gold down the mountain? Do you just pet it and say, "good donkey."

    C

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Wed Sep 13 15:01:41 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 2:32:10 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:59:13 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:51:13 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    I remember a grim faced old Asian lady checking machines at Horseshoe last trip. And years ago a poker player at the Venetian grinding an NL table playing through a migraine. My buddy gave him some ibuprofen. Gambling looks like an awful way to
    make a living. Sometimes it leaves me empty even as a hobby. I'll shoot you an e mail about Vegas conditions later when I get caught up with work.
    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when
    they needed to pay rent. I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day. It was glorious.
    When I have people threaten my life I don't consider it a good day. Guess I'm more suited for machine play.

    Well, if you are accustomed to playing at Commerce Casino, you are used to it. They were all vegas bustout types so I wasn't very worried at all. In my experience in life, if there's going to be a fight, you don't get threats first, you just get
    attacked. But, one guy really tried to sell it with vivid descriptions of how he was going to knife me in the parking structure and another guy got pretty red faced asking me to go outside...I told him to go outside and I'd be right there and he didn'
    t move(some emergency exit door he was pointing to). I probably should have kept cashing up my racks rather than let them get so deep, but I think it's funny to have so many racks in front of me.
    Oh, regarding to that donkey thing...the only time I've heard of people having use for a donkey was some coming of age movie when they were discussing going to Tijuana.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Wed Sep 13 18:38:43 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:51:54 AM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 2:44:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be
    there for an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C
    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.
    Who's going to take care of the chickens!!!! This will be our second trip this year, but that is unusual these days. We got an offer it was hard to say no to. Last time was Cosmopolitan and Circa, but this time the D. Where are you staying?

    C
    Staying at the Nugget. It will be my brother's first time in town, and I wanted to give him the feel of the old times. The chickens, goats, donkey, dogs and cats will be catered to by our son.
    There's not much of the old Vegas left, for better and worse. Not sure if GN qualifies. I got married in one of their Spa tower suites 20+ years ago. We resurrected Elvis for the occasion. We stayed in one again a year ago. Mostly the same. They haven'
    t put much into redecorating or replacing. I've changed. Going up and down the spiral stairs pissed me off.

    So what is the donkey for? Do you milk it? Does it carry bags of gold down the mountain? Do you just pet it and say, "good donkey."

    C

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect our
    goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Sep 13 18:56:43 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect our
    goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.

    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other coyotes
    in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Sep 13 20:10:37 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:56:48 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect
    our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other coyotes
    in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.


    So what if the coyote is a mother and somewhere there are puppies waiting for Mommy? I like the idea of a watch-donkey better.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Sep 13 20:47:41 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:10:42 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:56:48 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect
    our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other
    coyotes in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.
    So what if the coyote is a mother and somewhere there are puppies waiting for Mommy? I like the idea of a watch-donkey better.

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Sep 13 20:58:47 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac


    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Sep 13 22:48:17 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:58:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.

    Sounds like Jerry wasn't even a cop at all. Sounds like he was just a correctional officer. Bet he doesn't even have a P.O.S.T. certificate. What a loser job...no wonder he sounds like a scummy vegas degen...because all the lockup guys spend their
    lives with criminals and end up thinking on the same wavelength. What a fucking buffoon Jerry is. FYI, Jerry, I think you've been totally found out. You see, I know something maybe others don't know around here....there are some counties like Los
    Angeles that have actual deputies working the jails...usually the new deputies who are waiting in line to go out on patrol, etc. But, in a number of other counties in CA, they have sheriff deputies who are the real police and then they have loser "
    correctional officers" who run the jails who wish they were man enough to be cops. I remember laughing listening to a butte county correctional officer telling me how much he'd like to be a deputy sheriff....that's the way it works in Mono county, too.
    Hope jerry enjoyed his fucking prison sentence....cuz that's what it literally is.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 14 01:50:43 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:58:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link.

    You don't have to watch the link. I mostly put it there to piss off the anti-gun anti-hunting anti-meat libtards.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Sep 14 07:17:48 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 10:48:21 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:58:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.
    .

    Sounds like Jerry wasn't even a cop at all.

    So much for your sounds... Ask popinjay, it's been authenticated. You, on the other hand are still hiding.
    Assistant Night Manager at Wendy’s, right?

    LOL

    Sounds like he was just a correctional officer. Bet he doesn't even have a P.O.S.T. certificate.

    That, too, already authenticated. And by an asshole like you that doubted it to the point he call
    my department and they authenticated it. Poor asshole had to come be here and appolizied. Then
    he left in embarrassment.


    What a loser job...no wonder he sounds like a scummy vegas degen......

    Heh. You and your “Sounds like.” Keep proving what a sorry looser you are. It’s what I’m here for.


    because all the lockup guys spend their lives with criminals …

    Gee, here we go with Jack Off ‘experience,…’ that Bill and I keep showing wrong. LOL!


    What a fucking buffoon Jerry is.

    See? Can’t answer, can’t reply, just childish name calling.


    FYI, Jerry, I think you've been totally found out.

    See again? I WAS found out. It was proved who I said I was. And it appears I’ve proved you’re
    Why you really are.

    You see, I know something maybe others don't know around here....

    WHA! HA!~Ha. The “Others around here that found out I really was a cop?” (Jesus this is fun. Grabbing you by the nape of your scruffy little neck. Bending you over, and
    Running your runny little nose is your own shit errors).

    there are some counties like Los Angeles that have actual deputies working the jails...

    LOL! Like I said, long time ago? Dumb ass?


    But, in a number of other counties in CA, they have sheriff deputies who are the real police and
    then they have loser "correctional officers" who run the jails who wish they were man enough to be cops.

    Jesus. This delusional fool LOVES embarrassing himself.

    I remember laughing ….

    Here we go with more of this coward’s delusions.. See what I mean about him embarrassing himself.
    .
    .
    .
    .




    listening to a butte county correctional officer telling me how much he'd like to be a deputy sheriff....that's the way it works in Mono county, too. Hope jerry enjoyed his fucking prison sentence....cuz that's what it literally is.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 14 08:17:17 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:58:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.

    Neither am I. However, I found a whole bunch of pictures of mules (half donkey) killing mountain lions.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Sep 14 08:16:18 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:10:42 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:56:48 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect
    our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other
    coyotes in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.
    So what if the coyote is a mother and somewhere there are puppies waiting for Mommy? I like the idea of a watch-donkey better.

    Donkeys hate canids. Ours has tried to bite every one of ours, if they get close enough.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Thu Sep 14 12:28:49 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:38:48 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:51:54 AM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 2:44:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 9:32:08 AM UTC-4, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:59:21 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    I haven't seen that, though I try to remain inconspicuous. Not wearing or doing anything that would make me remarkable at all. I was banging on a black cat play really fast slot tournament style the other day, but I didn't want to be
    there for an hour. The play had been there a while. None of the other geniuses noticed it.

    C
    I just wrote a big long post to you and it didn't post. Shit. I gotta go right now.
    Ok, I'm back. I was trying to say, we could go to private email if you want. This is not something we want discussed on RGP, or in your local market. My friends in Vegas have a difficult time finding plays, because it's Vegas.
    I will E. Traveling to Vegas in a few weeks and I'm curious. I'm going to the casinos for a few days. Right now I've got about 5 hours of work and three hours to do it in.

    C
    I am going in a couple of weeks as well. It's been several years.
    Who's going to take care of the chickens!!!! This will be our second trip this year, but that is unusual these days. We got an offer it was hard to say no to. Last time was Cosmopolitan and Circa, but this time the D. Where are you staying?

    C
    Staying at the Nugget. It will be my brother's first time in town, and I wanted to give him the feel of the old times. The chickens, goats, donkey, dogs and cats will be catered to by our son.
    There's not much of the old Vegas left, for better and worse. Not sure if GN qualifies. I got married in one of their Spa tower suites 20+ years ago. We resurrected Elvis for the occasion. We stayed in one again a year ago. Mostly the same. They
    haven't put much into redecorating or replacing. I've changed. Going up and down the spiral stairs pissed me off.

    So what is the donkey for? Do you milk it? Does it carry bags of gold down the mountain? Do you just pet it and say, "good donkey."

    C
    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect our
    goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    An affectionate Amish watch donkey. I dig it.

    C

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Sep 14 12:36:24 2023
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect
    our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other coyotes
    in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.
    Is 30.06 a little over kill for coyote? I'm not a hunter. I like it when I see coyote and fox about. They control populations of animals that could easily become pests... and they are pretty cool.

    C

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Sep 14 13:54:01 2023
    On September 11, jack roth wrote:
    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there
    were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck
    hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when they needed to pay rent.
    I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day.

    Were you packing heat?

    --
    Rich

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Sep 14 20:36:41 2023
    jack roth <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    You don't have to watch the link. I mostly put it there to piss off the >anti-gun anti-hunting anti-meat libtards.

    Stand back while Jack's head explodes:
    |
    | Hunter Biden indicted by special counsel on felony gun
    | charges
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-indicted-special-counsel-felony-gun-charges/story?id=103168312>

    --bks

    Alleged crime happened in 2018.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Sep 14 17:18:44 2023
    On Thursday, September 14mber 13, 2023 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    Is 30.06 a little over kill for coyote? I'm not a hunter. I like it when I see coyote and fox about. They control populations of animals that could easily become pests... and they are pretty cool.

    C

    Uhh...Coyotes ARE the pests....Dept of Fish and Game will even tell you so....they attack and kill your pets, they've jumped a tall fence and killed my kids dog, and they regularly attack kids in populated areas....happens in OC and LA more often than
    you'd think. There is no law about killing Coyotes or skunks any time of year and those animals kill beneficial animals. Coyotes will kill opossums which are vital in controlling tick populations, and both coyotes, and skunks can eat eggs or birds that
    are vital for controlling insects. If you have a mouse or rat problem, there are other ways of dealing with that. Regarding caliber, I see no problem using a 30.06 if you don't mind spending a little extra on your ammo. You need to make sure you are
    in a legal place to shoot and have no collateral risk. But, a .22s and .223 can travel a mile, but they are meant to wound And, the military regularly uses .50cal to kill people....that's many times bigger than a 30.06 round in surface area.. Also,
    it's considered cruel to only wound an animal. Also, each round is going to have a different effective range and travels differently in air. And, sometimes you just get a preference for a particular weapon.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Sep 14 17:21:27 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 1:54:06 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On September 11, jack roth wrote:
    Oh I remember a number of years ago I was at the Venetian playing $8-16 Omaha8 and there
    were a number of locals pros taking turns at the table. Rent was coming due soon and the deck
    hit me over the head and I won 7 racks off the locals right when they needed to pay rent.
    I had 5 locals threaten my life in a single day.
    Were you packing heat?

    --
    Rich

    I absolutely have a CCW authorizing me to concealed carry a weapon in Nevada.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Sep 14 17:27:05 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 1:36:49 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    jack roth <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    You don't have to watch the link. I mostly put it there to piss off the >anti-gun anti-hunting anti-meat libtards.
    Stand back while Jack's head explodes:
    |
    | Hunter Biden indicted by special counsel on felony gun
    | charges
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-indicted-special-counsel-felony-gun-charges/story?id=103168312>

    --bks

    Alleged crime happened in 2018.

    Each state and also the Feds have their own laws regarding statute of limitations. And, not only are there no statute of limitations in some cases, but also there are some charges where the statute of limitations only starts once they've uncovered the
    crime. Furthermore, if you are the Feds, you don't even care if someone has committed a crime. The Fed knows the threat of prosecution will bankrupt most anyone and even then, if they want you, patriot act allows them to go through every bit of phone
    recards, email, and data you or your friends or family have ever engaged in and they'll find something on somebody you care about and threaten to prosecute them if you don't plead out...even if you are fully innocent. For example, General Flynn....the
    FBI admitted was fully innocent...but they still prosecuted him anyways...and threatened to put his family in jail if he didn't plead out. So, don't piss off the political class. they are all corrupt and they all have wicked power.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Sep 15 06:38:39 2023
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:17:21 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:58:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.
    Neither am I. However, I found a whole bunch of pictures of mules (half donkey) killing mountain lions.
    .

    I wouldn't either, being I was never a jailer in Mono County...

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Sep 15 08:02:25 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:38:44 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:17:21 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:58:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of Jerry
    when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.
    Neither am I. However, I found a whole bunch of pictures of mules (half donkey) killing mountain lions.
    .

    I wouldn't either, being I was never a jailer in Mono County...

    Give me your real name, Jerry, and I'll tell you exactly what you were.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Sep 15 10:27:02 2023
    "Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message
    news:udvqsp$hld$[email protected]...

    jack roth <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    You don't have to watch the link. I mostly put it there to piss off the >anti-gun anti-hunting anti-meat libtards.

    Stand back while Jack's head explodes:
    |
    | Hunter Biden indicted by special counsel on felony gun
    | charges
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-indicted-special-counsel-felony-gun-charges/story?id=103168312>

    --bks

    Alleged crime happened in 2018.

    __________


    Which tells you what?

    Watch CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the legacy media. They got the memo.
    Biden is out. The fear of Biden losing to Trump has prompted action.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Sep 15 10:28:49 2023
    "C Mayhem" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in
    Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish
    one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some
    time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision
    scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night
    is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence
    and it'll ward off other coyotes in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.
    Is 30.06 a little over kill for coyote? I'm not a hunter. I like it when I see coyote and fox about. They control populations of animals that could easily become pests... and they are pretty cool.

    C

    ______________


    30.06 is a little much for a coyote. 6.5 Creedmoor or even 22-250 can do
    that job. I live in Oklahoma. Not unusual at all to drive down rural roads and see coyotes strung up on fences.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Sep 15 12:19:39 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:02:29 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:38:44 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 8:17:21 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 11:58:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:47:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Well, those donkeys won't stop a coyote from trying to get the goats...the donkey will end up killing the mother coyote and those puppies will still be on their own....but, hunters will do it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVAj-
    YQNhac
    I'm not an expert on these matters, but I have heard before about donkeys making good "watch dogs", or "sheep dogs". And I think they just ward off the coyotes, not kill them. By the way, I am not going to watch the link. If it was a video of
    Jerry when he was a jailer in Mono County and a bunch of inmates were kicking his ass, I would watch it.
    Neither am I. However, I found a whole bunch of pictures of mules (half donkey) killing mountain lions.
    .

    I wouldn't either, being I was never a jailer in Mono County...
    .

    Give me your real name, Jerry, and I'll tell you exactly what you were.

    Heh. like I need some lying, narcissist; who won't reveal who they are; to tell me about me.

    See how stupid you are?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Sep 15 12:28:26 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:27:11 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    "Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message news:udvqsp$hld$[email protected]...
    jack roth <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    You don't have to watch the link. I mostly put it there to piss off the >anti-gun anti-hunting anti-meat libtards.

    Stand back while Jack's head explodes:
    |
    | Hunter Biden indicted by special counsel on felony gun
    | charges
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/US/hunter-biden-indicted-special-counsel-felony-gun-charges/story?id=103168312>

    --bks

    Alleged crime happened in 2018.
    __________


    Which tells you what?

    They're desperate. They know recent Supreme Court changes (asked for by gun-nut Republicans)
    can be used by Hunter to get him off completely.

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/drug-user-cannot-be-barred-owning-guns-us-court-rules-2023-08-10/
    .
    .
    .

    Watch CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the legacy media. They got the memo. Biden is out.

    Odd. I watch the real media (the ones that haven't stated they lie to their viewers). I haven't'
    see that memo.

    *** Show it to us. ***

    (And if you can't. If you lied. What does that tell US about YOU?)
    .
    .

    The fear of Biden losing to Trump has prompted action.

    Whose fear? What action?

    *** Show it to us. ***

    (And if you can't. If you lied. What does that tell US about YOU?)

    (YASFE)

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Sep 15 12:29:50 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:28:58 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    "C Mayhem" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:38:48 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I once mentioned to my wife that I liked donkeys, from my time in Cyprus. A couple of years later, she bought/rescued one from the Amish one and had it delivered on July 4th, much to my surprise. He serves the standard purpose, which is to protect our goats from coyotes, and has a saddle and little cart that he can pull, although he hasn't for some time. Mostly, he cuddles with us.
    You know what protects goats from coyotes? A 30.06 with a night vision scope. Any animal looking back at you with two eyes in that scope at night is a predator. You kill that coyote and then you hang it up on your fence and it'll ward off other coyotes in the future. Plenty of ranchers in this country have a dead coyotes hanging up on a fence.
    Is 30.06 a little over kill for coyote? I'm not a hunter. I like it when I see coyote and fox about. They control populations of animals that could easily become pests... and they are pretty cool.

    C
    ______________


    30.06 is a little much for a coyote. 6.5 Creedmoor or even 22-250 can do that job. I live in Oklahoma.
    .

    AH! Now THAT says a lot about you...
    .
    .
    .
    .




    Not unusual at all to drive down rural roads
    and see coyotes strung up on fences.

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