• Lincoln

    From da pickle@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 15:10:30 2023
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?

    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone
    else? Maybe Obama?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A1692821072139&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&ved=
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    BLM says he has to GO.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Aug 23 16:01:33 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:10:52 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?

    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone
    else? Maybe Obama?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A1692821072139&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&ved=
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    BLM says he has to GO.

    Lincoln was an asshole.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Aug 24 08:21:58 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:10:52 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?

    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone
    else? Maybe Obama?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A1692821072139&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&ved=
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    BLM says he has to GO.

    I hadn't noticed. You would have to remove every vehicle plate in Illinois. And there are a fuck ton of Lincoln statues in the Land of Lincoln. Statues of Grant or Sherman or many Union dead still here and plentiful. Same goes for the lone statue to
    the confederate dead of Camp Douglas. There is an occasional kerffufle over the Balbo statue donated by Mussolini. I recall protests at the Columbus statue a couple of years ago. Hamilton and Jefferson and Goethe still stand... among others I can't
    think of at the moment.

    C

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Aug 24 13:03:40 2023
    On August 23, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A169282107213bs9&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&
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    BLM says he has to GO.

    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization, aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    --
    Rich

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Aug 24 14:54:06 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:03:45 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On August 23, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A169282107213bs9&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&
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    BLM says he has to GO.
    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization, aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    --
    Rich

    No, blacks think it's outright ok for them to be racist as part of their redress for this mythical 400 years bullshit. Imagine what's going to happen when USA hegemony falls and the rest of the world thinks it deserves it's payback for all the war and
    colonialism. I can get called "cracker" countless times by blacks at Commerce Casino, but imagine what'd happen if I referred to them with the equivalent response. I do have a work-around that I've used that works rather perfectly in confusing
    them...."If I'm a cracker, what's that make you?"

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Aug 25 12:13:43 2023
    On 8/24/2023 4:54 PM, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:03:45 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On August 23, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else? >>>
    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A169282107213bs9&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&
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    BLM says he has to GO.
    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization, >> aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which >> doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    --
    Rich

    No, blacks think it's outright ok for them to be racist as part of their redress for this mythical 400 years bullshit. Imagine what's going to happen when USA hegemony falls and the rest of the world thinks it deserves it's payback for all the war
    and colonialism. I can get called "cracker" countless times by blacks at Commerce Casino, but imagine what'd happen if I referred to them with the equivalent response. I do have a work-around that I've used that works rather perfectly in
    confusing them...."If I'm a cracker, what's that make you?"

    I like the "what's that make you" retort.

    I was in NY many, many years ago to report on a giant case that was one
    of those potential "roundup poison" class actions. I was dragging a
    suitcase of paper up the long steps and when I reached to open the door
    a nicely dressed young woman appeared and I struggled a little to open
    the door for her. She stopped ... looked at me and said, "What ...
    don't you think a woman can open her own door!?"

    I paused and replied, "Excuse me, maam, I mistook you for a lady."
    Worked for me ... she did not approve.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Fri Aug 25 12:50:03 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 4:54 PM, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:03:45 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On August 23, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+did+lincoln+want+to+do+with+the+freed+slaves&sca_esv=559481520&sxsrf=AB5stBi_1ieR2Jw5Zi7EjiN1euZ2U6Xe7g%3A169282107213bs9&source=hp&ei=UGbmZLyUBZqT0PEP5_GIiAg&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZOZ0YGntFBxmPRO0-B_jHYERvI7shybH&
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    BLM says he has to GO.
    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization,
    aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which
    doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    --
    Rich

    No, blacks think it's outright ok for them to be racist as part of their redress for this mythical 400 years bullshit. Imagine what's going to happen when USA hegemony falls and the rest of the world thinks it deserves it's payback for all the war
    and colonialism. I can get called "cracker" countless times by blacks at Commerce Casino, but imagine what'd happen if I referred to them with the equivalent response. I do have a work-around that I've used that works rather perfectly in confusing them...
    ."If I'm a cracker, what's that make you?"
    I like the "what's that make you" retort.

    I was in NY many, many years ago to report on a giant case that was one
    of those potential "roundup poison" class actions.
    .

    Which I collected on in September of 2022. Sorry, NDA on amounts.
    .

    I was dragging a
    suitcase of paper up the long steps and when I reached to open the door
    a nicely dressed young woman appeared and I struggled a little to open
    the door for her. She stopped ... looked at me and said, "What ...
    don't you think a woman can open her own door!?"

    I paused and replied, "Excuse me, maam, I mistook you for a lady."
    Worked for me ... she did not approve.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Sat Aug 26 13:10:35 2023
    On August 24, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else?

    BLM says he has to GO.

    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization, >> aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which >> doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    No, blacks think it's outright ok for them to be racist as part of their redress for this
    mythical 400 years bullshit. I can get called "cracker" countless times by blacks at
    Commerce Casino, but imagine what'd happen if I referred to them with the equivalent
    response. I do have a work-around that I've used that works rather perfectly in confusing
    them...."If I'm a cracker, what's that make you?"

    That reminds me... there's a radio station I listen to, for their
    music programs. But it's left wing politicized, 100% in step with
    the Party line (of course they're committed to diversity).
    Even the music DJs sound off.

    So a few weeks ago, a DJ commented on some news
    item from Alabama: "If I ever reach the Alabama state
    line, I'm going to hire a private plane, fly across that and
    Mississippi, they're dangerous, full of wild beasts!" (guess his 'community')

    I thought: yeah, good point, lots of untamed wilderness
    in USA. Like if I ever reach Oakland, south Chicago, Bronx,
    or East St. Louis, I'm going to hire a helicopter, no way I'm
    going to set foot in those jungles!

    How would he handle it, if I called and told him that?

    --
    Rich

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Sat Aug 26 14:14:14 2023
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 1:10:41 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On August 24, jack roth wrote:
    What did Abraham Lincoln think about black folks and slaves?
    Shouldn't that Statue be removed and the Memorial reused for someone else?

    BLM says he has to GO.

    The first amendment rights to free expression, free assembly, redress
    of grievances... aren't those the invention of racist european civilization,
    aren't they signs of WHITENESS? Why hasn't BLM repudiated those
    principles, why haven't they reclaimed their proud african heritage, which
    doesn't protect right to protest, a relic of white supremacism?

    No, blacks think it's outright ok for them to be racist as part of their redress for this
    mythical 400 years bullshit. I can get called "cracker" countless times by blacks at
    Commerce Casino, but imagine what'd happen if I referred to them with the equivalent
    response. I do have a work-around that I've used that works rather perfectly in confusing
    them...."If I'm a cracker, what's that make you?"
    That reminds me... there's a radio station I listen to, for their
    music programs. But it's left wing politicized, 100% in step with
    the Party line (of course they're committed to diversity).
    Even the music DJs sound off.

    So a few weeks ago, a DJ commented on some news
    item from Alabama: "If I ever reach the Alabama state
    line, I'm going to hire a private plane, fly across that and
    Mississippi, they're dangerous, full of wild beasts!" (guess his 'community')

    I thought: yeah, good point, lots of untamed wilderness
    in USA. Like if I ever reach Oakland, south Chicago, Bronx,
    or East St. Louis, I'm going to hire a helicopter, no way I'm
    going to set foot in those jungles!

    How would he handle it, if I called and told him that?

    --
    Rich

    The untamed wilderness is way worse than that now in CA once they emptied the prisons, enacted no bail in places, and stopped prosecuting practically anything unless you are a cop or a rich white person. Now, the wilderness comes to you. The plague
    of apple store robberies in SoCal was often done by a gang from Oakland. They got caught eventually and I haven't heard about any recent apple store flash mob robberies, but that could just because flash mob robberies are everywhere, every day now in
    LA. They have been posting film lately of Nordstroms and Macy's getting flash mob robbed. Chain stores in my city are getting emptied by crooks regularly....but they are national chains so those losses will be absorbed by price increases across the
    entire chain. If you are a criminal, there has never been a better time to be in the untamed wiliderness of CA.

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