• So Cal

    From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 12:55:54 2023
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Mon Aug 21 13:35:19 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Aug 21 16:41:28 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.

    Some of the effects are simply the weight of the water on the plate boundaries.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Aug 21 18:57:36 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:41:32 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Some of the effects are simply the weight of the water on the plate boundaries.

    Weight of water can make a different, but probably not likely in a rain storm as the weight is displaced over a very great area. Reservoirs I've seen have this effect such as when a reservoir suddenly fills up....the many feet of water over one spot
    can trigger a small quake...and has. I doubt they place reservoirs directly over large faults such as San Andreas, but that'd be worth a look. I'll also point out my belief this is less of a risky lately as the overall weight on faults has been lifted
    in recent years by the droughts lowering the water tables....though this year getting 2 years worth a rain could possibly effect that in areas that raised water tables I guess. I've also noticed that big earthquakes tend to take turns in a clockwise
    pattern around the Pacific.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 22 07:29:23 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    C

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 22 08:38:36 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:57:41 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:41:32 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Some of the effects are simply the weight of the water on the plate boundaries.
    Weight of water can make a different, but probably not likely in a rain storm as the weight is displaced over a very great area. Reservoirs I've seen have this effect such as when a reservoir suddenly fills up....the many feet of water over one spot
    can trigger a small quake...and has. I doubt they place reservoirs directly over large faults such as San Andreas, but that'd be worth a look. I'll also point out my belief this is less of a risky lately as the overall weight on faults has been lifted in
    recent years by the droughts lowering the water tables....though this year getting 2 years worth a rain could possibly effect that in areas that raised water tables I guess. I've also noticed that big earthquakes tend to take turns in a clockwise pattern
    around the Pacific.

    In Greenland, the missing weight of the melting ice is causing the land to rise.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Aug 22 09:20:12 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:38:40 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    In Greenland, the missing weight of the melting ice is causing the land to rise.

    That's true, but not just Greenland. Canada is rising about 1in/yr....similarly, that has caused the plate at the other end to sink 1in/yr down in Florida...and this has been happening for centuries. You don't get this effect in the Southern
    Hemisphere, so you can look at photos of the ocean level in an Australian port and see they were the same 150yrs apart.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Tue Aug 22 09:16:16 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies. Now
    it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than
    normal water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Tue Aug 22 11:27:09 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    C
    .

    I did. Fucking ATC tried landing me on top of another aircraft that was flying directly below me. And he knew it.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 22 18:29:50 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:16:21 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies. Now
    it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than normal
    water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.

    If I remember the '60 Minutes' piece from earlier this year correctly, the Salton Sea is full of Lithium.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Aug 22 21:08:53 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:29:55 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:16:21 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather
    events, too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies.
    Now it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than
    normal water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.
    If I remember the '60 Minutes' piece from earlier this year correctly, the Salton Sea is full of Lithium.
    Lithium is found everywhere. The question is in what concentrations that can make it mineable. And, yes, salt beds are a good spot for it and in Nevada there are some areas some are saying are the Saudi Arabia of lihtium including out by Tonopah which
    already has some lithium projects to go along with silver/gold projects. But, that's comparatively easy at the moment to find good projects. The real problem is refining capacity which is why Elon Musk wants to build his own lithium refinery.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Aug 22 21:10:47 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:29:55 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:16:21 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather
    events, too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies.
    Now it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than
    normal water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.
    If I remember the '60 Minutes' piece from earlier this year correctly, the Salton Sea is full of Lithium.

    May be worth noting some african countries now are putting in controls to stop exploitation of their lithium and maybe other critical minerals until they can make sure they maximize their potential, but I don't see that as a problem while they still have
    good lithium projects much closer to Tesla factories in the USA.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Aug 23 05:35:09 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 10:38:40 AM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:57:41 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:41:32 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather
    events, too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Some of the effects are simply the weight of the water on the plate boundaries.
    Weight of water can make a different, but probably not likely in a rain storm as the weight is displaced over a very great area. Reservoirs I've seen have this effect such as when a reservoir suddenly fills up....the many feet of water over one spot
    can trigger a small quake...and has. I doubt they place reservoirs directly over large faults such as San Andreas, but that'd be worth a look. I'll also point out my belief this is less of a risky lately as the overall weight on faults has been lifted in
    recent years by the droughts lowering the water tables....though this year getting 2 years worth a rain could possibly effect that in areas that raised water tables I guess. I've also noticed that big earthquakes tend to take turns in a clockwise pattern
    around the Pacific.
    In Greenland, the missing weight of the melting ice is causing the land to rise.

    I chartered a boat in Juneau a couple of years ago and the skipper made the same claim in Alaska. The reducing weight of glacier ice due to melt...

    C

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Aug 24 08:30:48 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 11:16:21 AM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather events,
    too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies. Now
    it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than normal
    water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.

    Love to see a super bloom. I caught a bit of an American Experience the other day on the Francis Dam. It's amazing how much California history is wrapped up in water. Maybe the original sin in southern Cal. I flew into LA a bit over a year ago. I'd
    visited once before but first time by air. I saw this weird alpine lake from the air. Not like any alpine lake I've seen before. I didn't realize until that show it was a dam/reservoir. Hollywood probably.

    C

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Thu Aug 24 12:34:11 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:30:52 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    Love to see a super bloom. I caught a bit of an American Experience the other day on the Francis Dam. It's amazing how much California history is wrapped up in water. Maybe the original sin in southern Cal. I flew into LA a bit over a year ago. I'd
    visited once before but first time by air. I saw this weird alpine lake from the air. Not like any alpine lake I've seen before. I didn't realize until that show it was a dam/reservoir. Hollywood probably.

    Mullholland is the guy responsible for all those dams and the water getting to LA. There are several of those small reservoirs in the hollywood hills all connected by Mullholland drive, a windy road noted for James Dean's death. Jay Leno would driver
    that road on a motorcycle on some sundays....and it goes sorta near the Hollywood sign and right by a bunch of celebrities who may live on either side of those hills. You can still see debris of the ST Francis dam if you go on a hike there.
    Mullholland sneakily bought up land near Mono lake and sucked the land dry and piped it to South allowing Los Angeles to grow. Now we also have a couple different pipes connected to the Colorado River we are using to suck it dry. All of CA really
    needs to ban lawns. Disney California Adventure used to have a really nice movie about California with Whoopie Goldberg hosting in Character that included a nice section on water and CA history. They conveniently left out the part where the
    Japanese guy who had the strawberry fields was "encouraged" to sell out to Disney. They also left out the part where Californians were sold the line that it was a bunch of worthless bean fields that were being given to Vietnamese refugees relocated to
    Orange County after the war which is now home to so many poker players and was home to the likes of Scotty Nguyen etc.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Fri Aug 25 07:13:59 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:30:52 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 11:16:21 AM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:35:23 PM UTC-5, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:55:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    So an Earthquake in the middle of a hurricane? Really? WTF, did you run out of locusts??? Couldn't figure out a way to get a big fire going? I mean, seriously So Cal, you're freakin me out. This is weird even for you. This is not cool.

    And out of mild curiosity, what does this do to Tulare? That lake that wasn't a lake but is somehow a lake again that just looks like flooded farm land to me.

    C
    This is actually not weird at all. Sudden heavy amounts of water grease the skids of the plates and can trigger earthquakes where pressure was already building up. This was the case in the big 1971 earthquake that was preceded by big weather
    events, too.

    FYI, Tulare was always historically a lake until they decided they needed it as farmland and drained it. I seem to remember some very old film of the lake before they killed it and the millions of migratory birds it supported.
    Yep. Totally normal. You sad, sad So Cal bastards. What about the Salton Sea? Death Valley? When it comes to Cal I am geographically challenged. There's just a lot of it. One time my flight was diverted to San Jose. I did not know the way.

    The Salton Sea is a man made creation caused by water diversion from the Colorado river. It was very popular around the 1960's for skiing etd, but then it started to stink and got farming contamination runoff and way dirty with dead fish and flies.
    Now it's mostly deserted. I don't really think much of the Death Valley, but guaranteed, it'll have a lot of flowers there this January. Yosemite and other falls in the sierras will be the best view right now and probably next year with heavier than
    normal water falls. Gold panning should be pretty good around the sierras this fall after the big rains and those fires...probably be a lot of gold run off on the banks.
    Love to see a super bloom. I caught a bit of an American Experience the other day on the Francis Dam. It's amazing how much California history is wrapped up in water. Maybe the original sin in southern Cal. I flew into LA a bit over a year ago. I'd
    visited once before but first time by air. I saw this weird alpine lake from the air. Not like any alpine lake I've seen before. I didn't realize until that show it was a dam/reservoir. Hollywood probably.

    C

    Watch the movie Chinatown. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071315/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_q_chinat

    Tells the story of LA stealing our Owens Valley water. (Highway 395 to Bishop and north) I used to dispatch the hydro plants that sent that water on its way. The fight still goes on. Occasionally someone will use dynamite and blow a diversion for two.

    Driving on 395 you still see dead trees with red flags on them, to shame LA. We did trick LA on one diversion. When we shut down a power plant for maintenance, 'somebody' slipped a few trout into the creek. When the power plant restarted, we told LA the
    las said couldn't have that water anymore because it mysteriously had fish in it.

    (And, no, LA doesn't have, "a couple different pipes connected to the Colorado River.")

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Aug 25 07:35:38 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:14:03 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:


    I used to dispatch the hydro plants that sent that water on its way.


    So LA didn't steal it, YOU stole it.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 09:30:22 2023
    For the dumbasses out there who think LA doesn't get water from the Colorado river, we get about half our water from it.

    The ratio between what one dumbass thinks he knows about everything and what he actually knows is incredible.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Aug 25 09:31:30 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:35:42 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:14:03 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:


    I used to dispatch the hydro plants that sent that water on its way.
    So LA didn't steal it, YOU stole it.

    Hey didn't do shit. He just claims he has just like he claims every other god damn thing. Probably if we gin up a conversation about a base on the moon, we'll find out he was an astronaut, too.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Aug 25 12:42:53 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:35:42 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:14:03 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:


    I used to dispatch the hydro plants that sent that water on its way.
    .

    So LA didn't steal it, YOU stole it.
    .
    “So,” you’re as much of a fucking idiot as Jack Off, who doesn’t know what an aqueduct is.
    I’ll show you:
    .

    Jack rOff:

    Hey didn't do shit. He just claims he has just like he claims every other god damn thing.

    See? Yet I PROVE what I claim. Jack rOff gets challenged about his made-up shit, and he
    runs and hides. He has YET to reply when I bitch slap the little bitch.

    I use my real name and Beldon, or some other fucking idiot besides you, challenges me about being a
    Deputy Sheriff, and you Come out short. I have provided everything you need to check my FACTS.
    And you two dullards Run & Hide.

    You have my name and the company name, Southern California Edison Co. (SCE). Yea, I was water and
    Power Dispatcher in Bishop California. I controlled the power and the water flow in Bishop Creek,
    June Lake, Lundy and Pool Plant. All going to LA.

    Then I was Chief Operator, SCE East End controlling power and water generation for, Banning Heights
    Mutual Water, Mill Creek, Santa Ana Canyon (Big Bear drainage), San Antonio Canyon, and San Gaberial.

    Then, U.S. Government. Bonneville Power Administration. (Yea, check with that, asshole). Power Dispatcher
    for the northern end of the Western Grid.

    https://www.tanc.us/understanding-transmission/the-western-us-power-system/

    And the power generation and water flow in Columbia River, and numerous other power generation rivers
    and streams. (And, yea, I got to fly in the company jet).
    .

    Probably if we gin up a conversation…

    I’ll “probably” just embarrassed you two phonies again.
    .

    about a base on the moon, we'll find out he was an astronaut, too.

    See? Run & Hide, bitches, I OWN you…

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Aug 25 13:31:30 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:42:58 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    “So,” you’re as much of a fucking idiot as Jack Off, who doesn’t know what an aqueduct is.
    I’ll show you:


    It's a race track in New York, fuckface.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Aug 25 15:40:33 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:42:58 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    “So,” you’re as much of a fucking idiot as Jack Off, who doesn’t know what an aqueduct is.
    I’ll show you:

    It's a race track in New York, fuckface.

    Paul, we should gin up some conversation about mining gold. I'm sure this moron will tell us all about how he's owned several mines and was the VP of exploration and mine manager for Barrick Gold.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Aug 25 16:39:28 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:42:58 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    “So,” you’re as much of a fucking idiot as Jack Off, who doesn’t know what an aqueduct is.
    I’ll show you:

    It's a race track in New York, fuckface.
    .

    Well... Yea, I suppose that too.....

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Fri Aug 25 16:40:35 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:42:58 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    “So,” you’re as much of a fucking idiot as Jack Off, who doesn’t know what an aqueduct is.
    I’ll show you:

    It's a race track in New York, fuckface.
    Paul, we should gin up some conversation about mining gold. I'm sure this moron will tell us all about how he's owned several mines and was the VP of exploration and mine manager for Barrick Gold.
    .

    See there Popinjay999? See how fucking stupid this guy is?

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