• Wyatt Earp Speaks

    From Travel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 18:00:48 2023
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Travel on Mon Aug 14 18:26:23 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    Don't like how he left out Doc.

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  • From Travel@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Aug 14 20:31:16 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:26:27 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    Don't like how he left out Doc.

    Ya, the major shout-out went to Wild Bill. Maybe Doc owed him some serious "poker money."

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Travel on Mon Aug 14 22:02:44 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:31:21 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:26:27 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    Don't like how he left out Doc.
    Ya, the major shout-out went to Wild Bill. Maybe Doc owed him some serious "poker money."

    I read a book many years ago on all the Old West guys and I just read the Wikipedia on both Wyatt and Wild bill. I don't think those two ever met. And, I think Wyatt's life was much less admirable than Wild Bill's. I think in his old life, Wyatt
    was being recorded, realized his life was shit and not worth retelling, and as such, chose to retell the lore of Wild Bill and pump up his legend. Sorta reminds me of how poker players will talk of all these poker legends when in reality, there are
    countless kids these days who would crush them at the table. It's sorta like when my dad brought me back a small green book about Puggy Pearson beating Doyle Brunson in the WSOP. To a kid at the time, this book was glorious and I thought a lot of
    Puggy. But, then I got to know an old time Vegas dealer in NorCal who gave me an entirely different Picture of Puggy and his play which made me question things. And, then finally one day at the Bellagio in a $20-40 Omaha8 game, Puggy Pearson showed
    up and sat down in my game. I was his immediate target and he immediately started trash talking, always showing two of his cards, calling people over to back him while pointing me out as his obvious target. I loved it, but was definitely a different
    experience than what I read about him in that book and Puggy was losing his ass. Then a old female dealer who knew him sat down, slammed her hand down on the table in front of Puggy telling him to shut up...and then got him bounced right in front of my
    eyes. Hilariously, Puggy sought my help vouching for him before he got exited. I really miss getting stories like that....will probably never happen again as you don't have experience with legendary players like that anymore. But, as with Wyatt
    telling stories, Wyatt and that book possibly regaled an unrealistic legend. Truth is Wild Bill probably trapped people into an illusion of a fair fight and his main skill was probably firing first before his opponent could even get a chance to size
    him up...a successful strategy, but slightly different story than all this theory about how to use a pistol or the steady hand under fire of a pistolero.

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  • From Travel@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 15 13:31:25 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:02:48 AM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:31:21 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:26:27 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    Don't like how he left out Doc.
    Ya, the major shout-out went to Wild Bill. Maybe Doc owed him some serious "poker money."
    I read a book many years ago on all the Old West guys and I just read the Wikipedia on both Wyatt and Wild bill. I don't think those two ever met. And, I think Wyatt's life was much less admirable than Wild Bill's. I think in his old life, Wyatt was
    being recorded, realized his life was shit and not worth retelling, and as such, chose to retell the lore of Wild Bill and pump up his legend. Sorta reminds me of how poker players will talk of all these poker legends when in reality, there are countless
    kids these days who would crush them at the table. It's sorta like when my dad brought me back a small green book about Puggy Pearson beating Doyle Brunson in the WSOP. To a kid at the time, this book was glorious and I thought a lot of Puggy. But, then
    I got to know an old time Vegas dealer in NorCal who gave me an entirely different Picture of Puggy and his play which made me question things. And, then finally one day at the Bellagio in a $20-40 Omaha8 game, Puggy Pearson showed up and sat down in my
    game. I was his immediate target and he immediately started trash talking, always showing two of his cards, calling people over to back him while pointing me out as his obvious target. I loved it, but was definitely a different experience than what I
    read about him in that book and Puggy was losing his ass. Then a old female dealer who knew him sat down, slammed her hand down on the table in front of Puggy telling him to shut up...and then got him bounced right in front of my eyes. Hilariously, Puggy
    sought my help vouching for him before he got exited. I really miss getting stories like that....will probably never happen again as you don't have experience with legendary players like that anymore. But, as with Wyatt telling stories, Wyatt and that
    book possibly regaled an unrealistic legend. Truth is Wild Bill probably trapped people into an illusion of a fair fight and his main skill was probably firing first before his opponent could even get a chance to size him up...a successful strategy, but
    slightly different story than all this theory about how to use a pistol or the steady hand under fire of a pistolero.



    Can't remember the specifics, but I think someone here on this board once posted that they read that Wyatt's most frequent method of law enforcement was to walk into a saloon and immediately start smacking heads with the 45; didn't actually have to shoot
    all that.much.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Travel on Tue Aug 15 14:07:17 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:31:30 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:02:48 AM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:31:21 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:26:27 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    Don't like how he left out Doc.
    Ya, the major shout-out went to Wild Bill. Maybe Doc owed him some serious "poker money."
    I read a book many years ago on all the Old West guys and I just read the Wikipedia on both Wyatt and Wild bill. I don't think those two ever met. And, I think Wyatt's life was much less admirable than Wild Bill's. I think in his old life, Wyatt was
    being recorded, realized his life was shit and not worth retelling, and as such, chose to retell the lore of Wild Bill and pump up his legend. Sorta reminds me of how poker players will talk of all these poker legends when in reality, there are countless
    kids these days who would crush them at the table. It's sorta like when my dad brought me back a small green book about Puggy Pearson beating Doyle Brunson in the WSOP. To a kid at the time, this book was glorious and I thought a lot of Puggy. But, then
    I got to know an old time Vegas dealer in NorCal who gave me an entirely different Picture of Puggy and his play which made me question things. And, then finally one day at the Bellagio in a $20-40 Omaha8 game, Puggy Pearson showed up and sat down in my
    game. I was his immediate target and he immediately started trash talking, always showing two of his cards, calling people over to back him while pointing me out as his obvious target. I loved it, but was definitely a different experience than what I
    read about him in that book and Puggy was losing his ass. Then a old female dealer who knew him sat down, slammed her hand down on the table in front of Puggy telling him to shut up...and then got him bounced right in front of my eyes. Hilariously, Puggy
    sought my help vouching for him before he got exited. I really miss getting stories like that....will probably never happen again as you don't have experience with legendary players like that anymore. But, as with Wyatt telling stories, Wyatt and that
    book possibly regaled an unrealistic legend. Truth is Wild Bill probably trapped people into an illusion of a fair fight and his main skill was probably firing first before his opponent could even get a chance to size him up...a successful strategy, but
    slightly different story than all this theory about how to use a pistol or the steady hand under fire of a pistolero.
    Can't remember the specifics, but I think someone here on this board once posted that they read that Wyatt's most frequent method of law enforcement was to walk into a saloon and immediately start smacking heads with the 45; didn't actually have to
    shoot all that.much.

    Ya, the story is different than what's on wikipedia. Wyatt was given something like $1.50 or more for each arrest, so when the cattle herders came into town, they all woke up in jail having to pay big fines.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Travel on Tue Aug 15 14:14:20 2023
    On August 14, Travel wrote:
    https://youtu.be/DEJNpWBcvQE

    What firepower did he have, compared to today's urbanites?

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    Rich

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