• If The Strip had been masterplanned ..

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 17:05:39 2023
    .. there would have been a subway from the far south end of The Strip and along The Strip all the way to Downtown and the vehicle approaches to the casinos would have been to back entrances and Las Vegas Blvd. designed as a pedestrian-only space.


    'Elon Musk's tunneling company has permission to significantly expand its operations under the city of Las Vegas. Last month, the Las Vegas City Council voted unanimously to approve the Boring Company's plan to dig more tunnels under the city, following
    in the steps of Clark County, which in May gave a similar thumbs-up to the tunneling concern. The company's plan calls for 68 miles of tunnels and 81 stations, served by a fleet of Tesla electric vehicles, each able to carry three passengers at a time.

    Despite the unanimous approval, Mayor Carolyn Goldman had a litany of concerns, including safety, low throughput of passengers, and a lack of accessibility. However, she said that "hotels are begging for transportation options."

    The Boring Company owes its origin to a traffic jam that ensnared Musk in 2016. Incensed by having to sit behind other drivers, the billionaire decided the solution should be a network of private tunnels under cities, perhaps taking inspiration from Mad
    Magazine or the Usborne Book of the Future.

    As is often the case, Musk's plans were fanciful, verging on the outlandish. The tunnels were originally planned to carry high-speed magnetically levitating trains in near-vacuum, a concept called the Hyperloop. In 2017, Musk even claimed that he had
    government approval to dig a tunnel between Washington, DC, and New York City and that the journey would take just 29 minutes.

    The following year, Ars got its first experience of a Boring Company tunnel in person when we visited a 1.1-mile test tunnel in Los Angeles. By that time, any thoughts of maglev or even mass transit had evaporated. Instead of carrying lots of passengers
    at hundreds of miles an hour, a Tesla Model X was pressed into service, driving down the bumpy roadway at 45 mph.

    True to form, Musk continued to drum up attention for his tunnels. In 2018, he convinced the city of Chicago to commission a tunnel between its downtown and O'Hare International Airport. This time, electric pods would carry 16 passengers through the
    tunnels at speeds of up to 125 mph every 30 seconds.

    But the Boring Company's plans scaled back from maglev trains and vacuum tubes to high-speed electric pods and then to just regular Teslas with human drivers, and interest waned.

    Except in Las Vegas. There, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority said yes to a $48.6 million, 2.2-mile loop underneath the convention center. In 2021, the LVCC Loop opened a 1.7-mile network with three stations; the Boring Company claims it
    has transported 1.15 million passengers, with a peak capacity of just 4,500 people per hour. For context, a subway system can be expected to carry between 600 and 1,000 people per train.

    Should the Boring Company see this project through to completion, 60 of the stations would be in Clark County, mostly concentrated down the Strip and the major casinos, with the remaining 21 in the city of Las Vegas.'
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/musks-boring-company-gets-ok-to-dig-68-miles-of-tunnels-under-las-vegas/

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Aug 2 17:41:24 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:19:16 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    And, just imagine the hookers that'll be working the strip when they are all hanging out in the middle of LV Blvd and not being trespassed from Casinos? It'll be like the farmers market of whores.


    Vegas used to be like that. When I first started going to Vegas in my 20s, hookers were everywhere. Cheap ones hung out downtown, everywhere. More expensive ones hung out at night, at the south end of the Strip, near the Marina. When Hacienda was the
    furthest casino that end of town.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Aug 2 17:19:11 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:05:43 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    .. there would have been a subway from the far south end of The Strip and along The Strip all the way to Downtown and the vehicle approaches to the casinos would have been to back entrances and Las Vegas Blvd. designed as a pedestrian-only space.


    'Elon Musk's tunneling company has permission to significantly expand its operations under the city of Las Vegas. Last month, the Las Vegas City Council voted unanimously to approve the Boring Company's plan to dig more tunnels under the city,
    following in the steps of Clark County, which in May gave a similar thumbs-up to the tunneling concern. The company's plan calls for 68 miles of tunnels and 81 stations, served by a fleet of Tesla electric vehicles, each able to carry three passengers at
    a time.

    Despite the unanimous approval, Mayor Carolyn Goldman had a litany of concerns, including safety, low throughput of passengers, and a lack of accessibility. However, she said that "hotels are begging for transportation options."

    The Boring Company owes its origin to a traffic jam that ensnared Musk in 2016. Incensed by having to sit behind other drivers, the billionaire decided the solution should be a network of private tunnels under cities, perhaps taking inspiration from
    Mad Magazine or the Usborne Book of the Future.

    As is often the case, Musk's plans were fanciful, verging on the outlandish. The tunnels were originally planned to carry high-speed magnetically levitating trains in near-vacuum, a concept called the Hyperloop. In 2017, Musk even claimed that he had
    government approval to dig a tunnel between Washington, DC, and New York City and that the journey would take just 29 minutes.

    The following year, Ars got its first experience of a Boring Company tunnel in person when we visited a 1.1-mile test tunnel in Los Angeles. By that time, any thoughts of maglev or even mass transit had evaporated. Instead of carrying lots of
    passengers at hundreds of miles an hour, a Tesla Model X was pressed into service, driving down the bumpy roadway at 45 mph.

    True to form, Musk continued to drum up attention for his tunnels. In 2018, he convinced the city of Chicago to commission a tunnel between its downtown and O'Hare International Airport. This time, electric pods would carry 16 passengers through the
    tunnels at speeds of up to 125 mph every 30 seconds.

    But the Boring Company's plans scaled back from maglev trains and vacuum tubes to high-speed electric pods and then to just regular Teslas with human drivers, and interest waned.

    Except in Las Vegas. There, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority said yes to a $48.6 million, 2.2-mile loop underneath the convention center. In 2021, the LVCC Loop opened a 1.7-mile network with three stations; the Boring Company claims it
    has transported 1.15 million passengers, with a peak capacity of just 4,500 people per hour. For context, a subway system can be expected to carry between 600 and 1,000 people per train.

    Should the Boring Company see this project through to completion, 60 of the stations would be in Clark County, mostly concentrated down the Strip and the major casinos, with the remaining 21 in the city of Las Vegas.'
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/musks-boring-company-gets-ok-to-dig-68-miles-of-tunnels-under-las-vegas/

    R U stupid or something? If Vegas gave a shit, they'd have extended the Monorail to the airport and to downtown. Vegas doesn't want to have everyone walking around and not paying money. They want everyone paying for taxis and limos and blowing their
    kids inheritance money at every turn. Vegas doesn't exist to make your life make more sense, it exists to enrich Vegas. What do you think they are doing in the middle of the desert? Vegas sucks now anyways once all the 2 strike CA felons moved in
    and took over downtown and the strip and all the casino security has been neutered by the lawsuits. And, just imagine the hookers that'll be working the strip when they are all hanging out in the middle of LV Blvd and not being trespassed from Casinos?
    It'll be like the farmers market of whores. Somebody will throw up a tent in the middle of the street and have a line of guys waiting to bang hookers inside. Imagine the infinite number of street vendors that'll be robbing casinos of all the soda
    sales on a hot day. How the fuck are these multi billion dollar casinos supposed to pay their bills?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Aug 2 18:55:51 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:19:16 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:05:43 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    .. there would have been a subway from the far south end of The Strip and along The Strip all the way to Downtown and the vehicle approaches to the casinos would have been to back entrances and Las Vegas Blvd. designed as a pedestrian-only space.


    'Elon Musk's tunneling company has permission to significantly expand its operations under the city of Las Vegas. Last month, the Las Vegas City Council voted unanimously to approve the Boring Company's plan to dig more tunnels under the city,
    following in the steps of Clark County, which in May gave a similar thumbs-up to the tunneling concern. The company's plan calls for 68 miles of tunnels and 81 stations, served by a fleet of Tesla electric vehicles, each able to carry three passengers at
    a time.

    Despite the unanimous approval, Mayor Carolyn Goldman had a litany of concerns, including safety, low throughput of passengers, and a lack of accessibility. However, she said that "hotels are begging for transportation options."

    The Boring Company owes its origin to a traffic jam that ensnared Musk in 2016. Incensed by having to sit behind other drivers, the billionaire decided the solution should be a network of private tunnels under cities, perhaps taking inspiration from
    Mad Magazine or the Usborne Book of the Future.

    As is often the case, Musk's plans were fanciful, verging on the outlandish. The tunnels were originally planned to carry high-speed magnetically levitating trains in near-vacuum, a concept called the Hyperloop. In 2017, Musk even claimed that he had
    government approval to dig a tunnel between Washington, DC, and New York City and that the journey would take just 29 minutes.

    The following year, Ars got its first experience of a Boring Company tunnel in person when we visited a 1.1-mile test tunnel in Los Angeles. By that time, any thoughts of maglev or even mass transit had evaporated. Instead of carrying lots of
    passengers at hundreds of miles an hour, a Tesla Model X was pressed into service, driving down the bumpy roadway at 45 mph.

    True to form, Musk continued to drum up attention for his tunnels. In 2018, he convinced the city of Chicago to commission a tunnel between its downtown and O'Hare International Airport. This time, electric pods would carry 16 passengers through the
    tunnels at speeds of up to 125 mph every 30 seconds.

    But the Boring Company's plans scaled back from maglev trains and vacuum tubes to high-speed electric pods and then to just regular Teslas with human drivers, and interest waned.

    Except in Las Vegas. There, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority said yes to a $48.6 million, 2.2-mile loop underneath the convention center. In 2021, the LVCC Loop opened a 1.7-mile network with three stations; the Boring Company claims
    it has transported 1.15 million passengers, with a peak capacity of just 4,500 people per hour. For context, a subway system can be expected to carry between 600 and 1,000 people per train.

    Should the Boring Company see this project through to completion, 60 of the stations would be in Clark County, mostly concentrated down the Strip and the major casinos, with the remaining 21 in the city of Las Vegas.'
    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/08/musks-boring-company-gets-ok-to-dig-68-miles-of-tunnels-under-las-vegas/


    ~ R U stupid or something?


    What are you? A fungus?


    ~ If Vegas gave a shit, they'd have extended the Monorail to the airport and to downtown.


    The monorail has already filed for bankruptcy twice. Now it's been dumped on the Convention Authority because no one else would touch it. Stations in the wrong places and high ticket prices. Looks like a sure thing to you, doesn't it, genius?


    ~ Vegas doesn't want to have everyone walking around and not paying money. They want everyone paying for taxis and limos and blowing their kids inheritance money at every turn. Vegas doesn't exist to make your life make more sense, it exists to enrich
    Vegas. What do you think they are doing in the middle of the desert? Vegas sucks now anyways once all the 2 strike CA felons moved in and took over downtown and the strip and all the casino security has been neutered by the lawsuits. And, just imagine
    the hookers that'll be working the strip when they are all hanging out in the middle of LV Blvd and not being trespassed from Casinos? It'll be like the farmers market of whores. Somebody will throw up a tent in the middle of the street and have a line
    of guys waiting to bang hookers inside. Imagine the infinite number of street vendors that'll be robbing casinos of all the soda sales on a hot day. How the fuck are these multi billion dollar casinos supposed to pay their bills?

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Aug 3 07:10:02 2023
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:05:43 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:

    As is often the case, Musk's plans were fanciful, verging on the outlandish. The tunnels were originally planned to carry high-speed magnetically levitating trains in near-vacuum, a concept called the Hyperloop. In 2017, Musk even claimed that he had
    government approval to dig a tunnel between Washington, DC, and New York City and that the journey would take just 29 minutes.

    The following year, Ars got its first experience of a Boring Company tunnel in person when we visited a 1.1-mile test tunnel in Los Angeles. By that time, any thoughts of maglev or even mass transit had evaporated. Instead of carrying lots of
    passengers at hundreds of miles an hour, a Tesla Model X was pressed into service, driving down the bumpy roadway at 45 mph.


    So it's official. Elon Musk invented the hole.

    C

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