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    From jack roth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 31 23:12:26 2023
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 23:32:13 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the more
    reliable of the two.

    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 23:25:09 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?

    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the more
    reliable of the two.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 23:34:27 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the more
    reliable of the two.

    Here's your St Louis FRED chart for GDI you lying dumbass: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 23:31:35 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the more
    reliable of the two.

    No, GDI has been negative for the last 3 out of 4 quarters and here is a link to the chart, dumbass: https://twitter.com/steveanastasiou/status/1685091561590390784 Oh, and there is no longer any small margin of error, that'an alligator mouth opened up.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 23:34:59 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the more
    reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 23:42:53 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the
    more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA

    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that you
    previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 00:28:15 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered the
    more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that you
    previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.

    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 00:35:00 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered
    the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that you
    previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.

    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone either,
    least of all me.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 00:44:21 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:35:05 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is considered
    the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that
    you previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.
    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone either,
    least of all me.

    What you mean to say is I gave you too much credit for inferring that anything I refer to should be considered "real" and that not having specifically referenced that you believe gives you the opportunity to weasel around your erroneously bullshit filled
    wrong claims. Probably nominal numbers still prove you wrong....if you could find them. Just admit it....you don't know anything at all...you just blindly throw your money at the god of the passive index because the continuously reworked database of
    mostly zombie companies you consider to be the best investment because moron fund managers just chuck money at it and take their fees...because they don't know anything else, either.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 00:50:37 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:44:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:35:05 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is
    considered the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that
    you previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.
    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone
    either, least of all me.
    What you mean to say is I gave you too much credit for inferring that anything I refer to should be considered "real" and that not having specifically referenced that you believe gives you the opportunity to weasel around your erroneously bullshit
    filled wrong claims. Probably nominal numbers still prove you wrong....if you could find them. Just admit it....you don't know anything at all...you just blindly throw your money at the god of the passive index because the continuously reworked database
    of mostly zombie companies you consider to be the best investment because moron fund managers just chuck money at it and take their fees...because they don't know anything else, either.

    You were wrong, and you are still dancing around that fact. That means you have no credibility whatsoever. GDI and Real GDI are not the same thing, any more than GDP and Real GDP are the same thing. I suggest you take an introductory economics class at
    your local community college.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 01:35:26 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart

    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024


    , but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    I think we already determined that is not true, didn't we.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?

    And by "somebody" you must mean a conspiracy between a huge team of non-partisan career economists and statisticians who have worked for different government agencies through many different administrations? Makes perfect sense. And it does beg the
    question, if this mysterious "somebody" has the magical power of getting away with "cooking the GDP numbers," why wouldn't they also cook the GDI numbers to be consistent? I mean, if it's so obvious that even a dumbass like you can spot the fraud, what's
    the point??

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 02:12:02 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:50:41 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:44:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:35:05 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is
    considered the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics
    that you previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.
    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone
    either, least of all me.
    What you mean to say is I gave you too much credit for inferring that anything I refer to should be considered "real" and that not having specifically referenced that you believe gives you the opportunity to weasel around your erroneously bullshit
    filled wrong claims. Probably nominal numbers still prove you wrong....if you could find them. Just admit it....you don't know anything at all...you just blindly throw your money at the god of the passive index because the continuously reworked database
    of mostly zombie companies you consider to be the best investment because moron fund managers just chuck money at it and take their fees...because they don't know anything else, either.
    You were wrong, and you are still dancing around that fact. That means you have no credibility whatsoever. GDI and Real GDI are not the same thing, any more than GDP and Real GDP are the same thing. I suggest you take an introductory economics class at
    your local community college.

    I wasn't wrong at all. And, you don't get to come in when you are wrong and then change my original question to fix your wrong answer.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 02:14:21 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 02:49:08 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?

    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily apparent
    that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 04:13:44 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily apparent
    that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.

    You are a moron. At this point, I'm just tuning you out.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 04:58:34 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:26:14 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily
    apparent that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.
    You are a moron. At this point, I'm just tuning you out.
    No, I am about as far from a "moron" as you can get, and you promised to "tune me out" a week or two ago. Apparently it didn't stick.

    Watch this.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 04:26:10 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily apparent
    that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.
    You are a moron. At this point, I'm just tuning you out.

    No, I am about as far from a "moron" as you can get, and you promised to "tune me out" a week or two ago. Apparently it didn't stick.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 06:33:54 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    You are a moron. At this point, I'm just tuning you out.

    Wise decision, Jack.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 12:21:47 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily apparent
    that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.
    You are a moron. .

    At this point, I'm just tuning you out.

    *** WE HAVE A WINNER ****

    BillB has Jack-off, off and running (and hiding).

    (Damn. I still have more popcorn)...

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 12:18:10 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:50:41 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:44:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:35:05 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is
    considered the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics
    that you previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.
    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone
    either, least of all me.
    What you mean to say is I gave you too much credit for inferring that anything I refer to should be considered "real" and that not having specifically referenced that you believe gives you the opportunity to weasel around your erroneously bullshit
    filled wrong claims. Probably nominal numbers still prove you wrong....if you could find them. Just admit it....you don't know anything at all...you just blindly throw your money at the god of the passive index because the continuously reworked database
    of mostly zombie companies you consider to be the best investment because moron fund managers just chuck money at it and take their fees...because they don't know anything else, either.
    .
    .

    You were wrong, and you are still dancing around that fact.
    That means you have no credibility whatsoever.

    *** Ouch! Ow! Damn that hurts! ***
    "I'm gonna run hide in my million-dollar bitch pad..."

    (More popcorn, BillB's just warming up)

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Aug 1 12:20:10 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to).
    .
    .
    ******
    Face it, Jack, it is readily apparent that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.


    ***** BITCH SLAP! ****

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 12:15:54 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:44:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:35:05 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 12:28:20 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:42:58 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:35:03 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:32:17 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart, but over the last 3 quarters, GDI has turned very negative, yet GDP is being reported as increasingly positive.

    How is GDP up when GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters? Could somebody be cooking the GDP numbers?
    GDI has not gone negative for the last three quarters. It has increased in each of the last three quarters. GDI and GDP should theoretically be the same, but since the data sources are different, there is a margin of error. GDP is
    considered the more reliable of the two.
    Also, dumbshit, if everyone is doing so great, why has American net worth gone negative on the St Louis Fred charts?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A261RL1Q225SBEA
    That is real GDI, not GDI. Your claim was that "GDI has gone negative for 3 quarters". This is the chart for GDI:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDI As you can see, GDI was positive for the last three quarters, just as I said. Apparently you have all the charts, but you don't know which one is which. And why are you relying on charts and statistics that
    you previously said are totally fake? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

    You need to come to terms with the reality that when I state a fact, there is a 99.9% chance it is true. You...not so much.
    Who the fuck do you think you are fooling.
    You didn't fool me when you claimed GDI went negative for the last three quarters, did you. And then you produced the Real GDI chart and tried to pass it off as evidence that your original claim was true. I'm pretty sure that didn't fool anyone
    either, least of all me.
    .

    What you mean to say is I gave you too much credit for inferring that anything I refer to should be considered "real"
    and that not having specifically referenced that you believe gives you the opportunity to weasel around your
    erroneously bullshit filled wrong claims.
    .

    WHA! HA! Ha!

    PASS THE POPCORN.

    LIke I said before. I've bitch-slapped the ever-loving shit out of this Jackoff to the point he can't answer or reply.
    (Or give is the address of his $1.5 million batchlor pad).

    The Tag Team is in place and now BillB is making a fool of this fool.

    LOL!

    Probably nominal numbers...
    You don't know anything at all...
    you just blindly throw your money...
    god of the passive index ...
    continuously reworked database..
    zombie companies...
    moron fund managers ...
    they don't know anything else, either.

    *** NEED MORE POPCORN ***

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Aug 1 12:23:28 2023
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:58:39 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:26:14 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:13:49 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:49:12 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 2:14:25 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:35:30 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:12:29 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart
    No, it almost never is, for the reason I told you above: https://learningeconomics144070344.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/fredgraph-1.png?w=1024

    Hey moron, you don't get to come in and now change the date range of my question either. Do you not even check anything?
    You said "Gross Domestic Income should always be the same as GDP on the chart." I showed you the overlayed data from the last several years that proves it almost never is (you can go back decades if you want to). Face it, Jack, it is readily
    apparent that you really don't have the first fucking clue what you are talking about. Quit while you are behind.
    You are a moron. At this point, I'm just tuning you out.
    No, I am about as far from a "moron" as you can get, and you promised to "tune me out" a week or two ago. Apparently it didn't stick.
    .

    Watch this.

    *** AND HE'S OFF AND RUNNING! ****

    LOL!

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