• Good news for gold bugs

    From BillB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 31 18:00:06 2023
    Gold up almost 7% ytd. That's a not bad real return for the type of people who only play the nuts.

    Oh, by the way, the Nasdaq is up 38%, but that's neither here nor there. All economic statistics are fake anyway.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 19:06:49 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:29:55 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:22:28 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:00:11 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    Gold up almost 7% ytd. That's a not bad real return for the type of people who only play the nuts.

    Oh, by the way, the Nasdaq is up 38%, but that's neither here nor there. All economic statistics are fake anyway.
    Hey, idiot jackass, I had mining stocks up double digits just today. Best part is this metals bull market is JUST GETTING STARTED. Time stamp this post you fucking moron and then come talk to me by the Presidential election.
    Why are you so hostile?

    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next
    12 months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 18:29:51 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:22:28 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:00:11 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    Gold up almost 7% ytd. That's a not bad real return for the type of people who only play the nuts.

    Oh, by the way, the Nasdaq is up 38%, but that's neither here nor there. All economic statistics are fake anyway.
    Hey, idiot jackass, I had mining stocks up double digits just today. Best part is this metals bull market is JUST GETTING STARTED. Time stamp this post you fucking moron and then come talk to me by the Presidential election.

    Why are you so hostile?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 18:22:23 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:00:11 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    Gold up almost 7% ytd. That's a not bad real return for the type of people who only play the nuts.

    Oh, by the way, the Nasdaq is up 38%, but that's neither here nor there. All economic statistics are fake anyway.

    Hey, idiot jackass, I had mining stocks up double digits just today. Best part is this metals bull market is JUST GETTING STARTED. Time stamp this post you fucking moron and then come talk to me by the Presidential election.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 19:21:47 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:06:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next 12
    months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.


    It's not the gold that is going to go up. It's the dollar that's going to go down. Gold is real money. Paper is fake money. But I know you already know this, Jack. Bill enjoys being an asshole. Together, he and Jerry have ruined this group.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Jul 31 19:28:39 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:06:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next
    12 months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.
    It's not the gold that is going to go up. It's the dollar that's going to go down. Gold is real money. Paper is fake money. But I know you already know this, Jack. Bill enjoys being an asshole. Together, he and Jerry have ruined this group.

    Uh, it's real money when you take the money you invested in January and cash in your 38% profit tomorrow and buy a car or a house with them. I know...economics is hard.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 19:25:45 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:06:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:29:55 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:22:28 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 6:00:11 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    Gold up almost 7% ytd. That's a not bad real return for the type of people who only play the nuts.

    Oh, by the way, the Nasdaq is up 38%, but that's neither here nor there. All economic statistics are fake anyway.
    Hey, idiot jackass, I had mining stocks up double digits just today. Best part is this metals bull market is JUST GETTING STARTED. Time stamp this post you fucking moron and then come talk to me by the Presidential election.
    Why are you so hostile?
    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next 12
    months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.

    Congratulating them on their real returns this year is hardly "hostile." Like I said, a 5% real return (if you want to believe the fake CPI) is not bad at all for someone who only has the skill to play the nuts. Plus, those who held physical gold got
    the benefit of looking at and playing with a pretty shiny object all year. I am no position to put a value on that benefit for another person. That is highly subjective. Take me for example...I'll pay $1000 for a watch when I can get a much more accurate
    one for $10. Same thing.

    Just curious...did these same charts you are talking about tell you the NASDAQ was going up 38% in seven months? You must have made an absolute killing! And now you are going to take all the profits and short it? Ballsy. When are you expecting the crash
    to start?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Jul 31 19:30:57 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:06:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next
    12 months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.
    It's not the gold that is going to go up. It's the dollar that's going to go down. Gold is real money. Paper is fake money. But I know you already know this, Jack. Bill enjoys being an asshole. Together, he and Jerry have ruined this group.

    Pay attention to Aug 22. I think that's the BRICS currency announcement that week. If they tie it to Gold....

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 19:31:37 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:28:43 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Uh, it's real money when you take the money you invested in January and cash in your 38% profit tomorrow and buy a car or a house with them. I know...economics is hard.

    Gold is God's money, you atheist fuck.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 19:38:14 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:31:02 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Pay attention to Aug 22. I think that's the BRICS currency announcement that week. If they tie it to Gold....

    I've been following this for months, but I just can't see countries like Russia really spending their gold. I see them acquiring as much as they can, and HODLing. I really don't know wtf is going to happen.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 19:39:03 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:49 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Just curious...did these same charts you are talking about tell you the NASDAQ was going up 38% in seven months? You must have made an absolute killing! And now you are going to take all the profits and short it? Ballsy. When are you expecting the
    crash to start?

    Just curious.....you always seem so obsessed with how you are doing. What are you gambling your rent money in the market? Cuz, I never even check my retirement accounts....and I never sell my metals. I don't get overly excited when they go up or
    down. You make it sound like you'll be eating MacNCheese if nasdaq doesn't go up.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Jul 31 19:41:35 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:31:40 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:28:43 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Uh, it's real money when you take the money you invested in January and cash in your 38% profit tomorrow and buy a car or a house with them. I know...economics is hard.
    Gold is God's money, you atheist fuck.

    God switched to astatine over 2.3 billion years ago. Try to keep up.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 19:46:01 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:39:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:49 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Just curious...did these same charts you are talking about tell you the NASDAQ was going up 38% in seven months? You must have made an absolute killing! And now you are going to take all the profits and short it? Ballsy. When are you expecting the
    crash to start?
    Just curious.....you always seem so obsessed with how you are doing. What are you gambling your rent money in the market? Cuz, I never even check my retirement accounts....and I never sell my metals. I don't get overly excited when they go up or down.
    You make it sound like you'll be eating MacNCheese if nasdaq doesn't go up.

    Nah...we'll be fine no matter what. We already won. But you didn't answer my question....when do you expect this NASDAQ crash you alluded to to start?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Jul 31 19:43:46 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:38:23 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:31:02 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Pay attention to Aug 22. I think that's the BRICS currency announcement that week. If they tie it to Gold....
    I've been following this for months, but I just can't see countries like Russia really spending their gold. I see them acquiring as much as they can, and HODLing. I really don't know wtf is going to happen.

    By exporting USD, the USA is exporting inflation. When other countries finally get rid of the USD, they'll be exporting that same inflation back to the USA.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 21:11:54 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:49:57 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    So it went from "fucked" to "topping out" in just two hours?

    No, morons like you are always fucked. You'll hold on too long like every other loser like you who blindly invests against the cycles. I just don't know the exact day and time you are fucked. But, you are fucked...and because you are old, you will
    never have time to recover.

    And, you can't guess at all what I'd do in any situation as I'm in a different situation than most and have different investment goals and take different risks and use particular strategies unlike you who just follows the "Hot hand fallacy" of pressing
    your craps bet until you inevitably lose.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 20:35:39 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:46:08 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:39:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:49 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Just curious...did these same charts you are talking about tell you the NASDAQ was going up 38% in seven months? You must have made an absolute killing! And now you are going to take all the profits and short it? Ballsy. When are you expecting the
    crash to start?
    Just curious.....you always seem so obsessed with how you are doing. What are you gambling your rent money in the market? Cuz, I never even check my retirement accounts....and I never sell my metals. I don't get overly excited when they go up or down.
    You make it sound like you'll be eating MacNCheese if nasdaq doesn't go up.
    Nah...we'll be fine no matter what. We already won. But you didn't answer my question....when do you expect this NASDAQ crash you alluded to to start?

    I don't give a fuck about Nasdaq one way or the other. It's very obviously topping out right this very second. There's a lot of moving parts to the story right now, so it's hard to account for all the variables...tons of printed up money floating the
    military industrial complex....we're also onshoring business....both will help jobs, even if we keep going into more and more massive debt. In fact, jobs is the only excuse there is preventing them from saying we've already been in recession the last 6
    months. What I do know is that there is a mass movement around the globe to start getting off the petro dollar....not sure exactly how long that takes, but seems to be going faster than I'd have thought. Quad witching hour is happening Sept 15th....
    might mean nothing, but it's a good time for traders to get scared and pull off their craps bets on nasdaq considering how often markets can tank Sept and Oct.. And, I don't really pay attention to that much because either way, I'll be just fine. Some
    alzheimers president getting us into Nuclear War would be a worry, after all that idiot Blinken just said Nuclear War is no different than Climate change...which has to be about the dumbest thing ever said. But, with respect to investments, the one
    and only call I'll make right now is previous metals over this next 12-15 months. I have no other opinion about any other investment right now.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 20:49:50 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:35:46 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:46:08 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:39:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:25:49 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Just curious...did these same charts you are talking about tell you the NASDAQ was going up 38% in seven months? You must have made an absolute killing! And now you are going to take all the profits and short it? Ballsy. When are you expecting
    the crash to start?
    Just curious.....you always seem so obsessed with how you are doing. What are you gambling your rent money in the market? Cuz, I never even check my retirement accounts....and I never sell my metals. I don't get overly excited when they go up or
    down. You make it sound like you'll be eating MacNCheese if nasdaq doesn't go up.
    Nah...we'll be fine no matter what. We already won. But you didn't answer my question....when do you expect this NASDAQ crash you alluded to to start?
    I don't give a fuck about Nasdaq one way or the other. It's very obviously topping out right this very second. There's a lot of moving parts to the story right now, so it's hard to account for all the variables...tons of printed up money floating the
    military industrial complex....we're also onshoring business....both will help jobs, even if we keep going into more and more massive debt. In fact, jobs is the only excuse there is preventing them from saying we've already been in recession the last 6
    months. What I do know is that there is a mass movement around the globe to start getting off the petro dollar....not sure exactly how long that takes, but seems to be going faster than I'd have thought. Quad witching hour is happening Sept 15th....might
    mean nothing, but it's a good time for traders to get scared and pull off their craps bets on nasdaq considering how often markets can tank Sept and Oct.. And, I don't really pay attention to that much because either way, I'll be just fine. Some
    alzheimers president getting us into Nuclear War would be a worry, after all that idiot Blinken just said Nuclear War is no different than Climate change...which has to be about the dumbest thing ever said. But, with respect to investments, the one and
    only call I'll make right now is previous metals over this next 12-15 months. I have no other opinion about any other investment right now.


    So it went from "fucked" to "topping out" in just two hours? That sounds like a positive development. If it were the former you should definitely give a fuck because any predictable major fluctuation in any market is an opportunity to make boatloads of
    money. That is, if your "predictions" aren't merely wild-ass guesses and you are right a lot more often than you are wrong (and that is obviously the case, because you have "the charts" -- and I mean the real ones, not the fake ones everyone else is
    stuck with).

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jul 31 22:25:59 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:12:01 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 8:49:57 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    So it went from "fucked" to "topping out" in just two hours?
    No, morons like you are always fucked. You'll hold on too long like every other loser like you who blindly invests against the cycles. I just don't know the exact day and time you are fucked. But, you are fucked...and because you are old, you will
    never have time to recover.

    And, you can't guess at all what I'd do in any situation as I'm in a different situation than most and have different investment goals and take different risks and use particular strategies unlike you who just follows the "Hot hand fallacy" of pressing
    your craps bet until you inevitably lose.

    I'm fucked, the NASDAQ is fucked, the US dollar is fucked, the banking system is fucked, and if Biden get's his way everyone's fucked! Except you of course... because you have "the charts" that show "the cycles." Sucks to be us.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jul 31 23:23:03 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:26:03 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    I'm fucked, the NASDAQ is fucked, the US dollar is fucked, the banking system is fucked, and if Biden get's his way everyone's fucked! Except you of course... because you have "the charts" that show "the cycles." Sucks to be us.

    Speaking of banking system, we just had another bank go belly up Friday. US is being used less and less each month....it was used 8% less last month...we'll find out quickly how it did in July. And, ya, you ignorant dumbfuck, the charts should you
    quite a bit....many of the big boys only trade on price, they couldn't care less about the narrative. And, you are one ignorant motherfucker if you don't research Kondratiev waves or maybe go buy the book "Fourth Turning".....maybe learn something
    about an "S-curve"....cuz those buying cycles matter. Things are cyclical, dumbass. Many cycles out there. Here are a few for you:

    1. Warming/cooling cycles-400 years or so.....when it's warmer, humanity does better(except moron libtards who spew about climate change). Fact is there is always climate change back and forth. But, warming cycles means more activity, more food
    production, etc.....now, cooling cycles means less food, more disease...bad things happen in the world. If you look thru history, i'll be easy to spot the warming cycles and the cooling cycles.
    2. All out War cycle- About a lifetime....last one was in WW2....then Civil war and Revolutionary war before that. We're due.
    3. Revolutionary cycle....happens globally....about every 250 years. Last time was during our revolutionary war....French had their own revolution, and so on. We're due for that one, too.

    there are other cycles...for example, a big boomer generation caused a boom in housing, jobs as the large generation proceeded thru it's life....buying their starter homes....peak potato chips eating years at 42 because they had teens around then....then
    upgrade homes and big car purchase around 50.....pretty soon they'll be headed into adult care and start taxing our health care system, and of course, stop paying taxes....

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Aug 1 09:21:44 2023
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:06:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Your posts are being hostile. Creating a post to attack those who hold gold as an asset class? You're a hostile moron and you know that's your intent. Let me tell you something Hoss....shut your mouth and watch what happens to metals over this next
    12 months. Same thing with your nasdaq which is WAY WAY WAY ripe to drop. Check the charts. NASDAQ is about to be fucked.
    It's not the gold that is going to go up. It's the dollar that's going to go down. Gold is real money. Paper is fake money. But I know you already know this, Jack. Bill enjoys being an asshole. Together, he and Jerry have ruined this group.
    .

    Yea, by cornering you two losers and making you run.

    Jackoff was the last one I ass-kicked by showing him lying about his $1.5 million bachelor pad.
    And BillB kicked your running ass just now.

    LOL @ Losers

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sat Aug 12 11:18:35 2023
    On July 31, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Gold is God's money, you atheist fuck.

    There's a lot of gods out there -

    Let's try the following thought experiment:
    Monday, Jehovah visits a Toyota dealer. They jaw, then
    some bits of computer memory in J's bank are jiggled,
    and likewise bits of computer memory in the dealer's
    bank. Then J goes home with a Corolla.

    Tuesday, Allah visits a Toyota dealer. He opens a
    suitcase full of Federal Reserve paper, delivers it to
    the salesman, and goes home with a Corolla.

    Wednesday, Boodah visits a Toyota dealer. They jaw.
    Boodah offers a sack of gold bars, for a car.
    Salesman: "Sorry pal, we don't deal with jokers! Cash or finance."
    B: "Sorry, I don't touch fiat money. You want to deal?
    Gold, that's it, take it or leave it."

    Sales grumbles, calls the manager, who calls the lawyer,
    who writes a contract. B goes home with a Corolla.

    Thursday, Rastafaria visits a Toyota dealer. They jaw.
    He offers a briefcase full of Apple stock certificates.
    Salesman: "Sorry pal, we don't deal with jokers! Cash or finance."
    R: "Sorry, I don't touch fiat money. You want to deal?
    Apple stock, that's it, take it or leave it."

    Sales grumbles, calls the manager, who calls the lawyer,
    who writes a contract. Rasta goes home with a Corolla.

    In every case, god exchanges something worthless for
    something of value. Now, which is the real god, and which
    the real god's money?

    --
    Rich

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