The Main certainly is a unique tournament, more so than I thought it
would be. Two hour levels is an insane amount of time to play
considering the chips (60k) and the gradual, slow increase. I was
fortunate on day one early on when I had AA and busted KK. I ended up 4 betting all-in pre flop and this guy agonized for a long time, finally pushing in his stack and saying if you got it, you got it. I was elated
of course, but then I realized I had to fade five cards to actually win
the pot. I did, but holy fuck it was stressful.
The other thing is that the players are all good and aggressive. I know
the pros always talk of soft players and dead money in the Main, and
that was probably true back in the day and I'm sure they're talking
about players like me, but there are simply no rich business guys who
have never played before plopping down $10k to play a tournament for the first time. All the tables I played were full of killers. Everyone
knew what they were doing.
My day one table had Shota Nakanishi, who was hyper aggressive and
hitting hands. He was actually a very pleasant kid, but is apparently a high stakes cash game pro and you could tell he was just a stone
killer. He got a big stack early and pretty much controlled my table on
day one.
Scott Berko pretty much did the same thing at my table on day two. Deck
ran over him all day. I raised three times in LP or on the button and
all three times he made huge re-raises from the BB or SB. The last I
had AK and thought for a long time about shoving, which the kids say is
%100 the play, but I was playing tight and just felt like I was beat.
He showed KK and said that he had AA and QQ on the other hands, and I
believe him. He showed down huge hands all day.
Third day I was really short and on the second hand of the day I picked
up A-10s and raised from MP. Got two callers. Flop was 10-2-3 with one spade. One of the callers bet, the other raised, and I raised all-in.
Both went all in behind me with bigger stacks. AA and KK! They both
slow played these hands. I figured I was just dead unless I hit running flush, but the turn was the immediate 10! River was a 2 and I had a
full house to triple. I could not believe it.
The funny thing about that hand was that the KK was under the gun and he originally got a 4, but the dealer pitched it so it hit his hand and
turned over. So, the 4 was the burn and he got another card--a second K
as it turned out, and he actually said right then that he hoped it
didn't disrupt the natural order of the cards to fuck him and bust--and
it actually did! I tripled through both of them, but the AA had him
covered and busted him in the side pot. All day, whenever some
irregularity happened we all oooohhed and said the mojo was still in
play. It was kinda funny.
There was a discussion of when the bad joo-joo would be broken and we
decided that it was in play until the table broke. New guys would come
in and every time there was an exposed card we'd say, don't tell them
about it as running joke at the table.
I just went totally card dead after that. Nursed a short stack late
into day three near the bubble. On the last level I picked up JJ,
raised, and got a single caller. Flop was 9-high and I bet, got raised, raised all in and was called by AA. I did not improve on the turn or river. He slowed played it perfectly. I did not expect that and he
simply got me. Did not improve and I busted. No bad beat, he just
trapped me pure.
Later, I looked at the list of stacks during that time and was surprised
at how many stacks were way shorter than mine. Lots of folks nursing
short stacks to cash early on Day 4. Had I known that, I may have
played differently to cash, but I don't know. My goal really wasn't to
just cash, but I could have pretty easily had I known the numbers.
The slow, marathon pace of the Main is totally unique. I can understand
why Hellmuth and others sometimes buy-in on Day 2. It's entirely
doable. Personally, I like to play so I would not do that. Seeing all
the poker personalities is cool, too. Jamie Gold announced shuffle up
and deal in my room and then he sat and played at the table next to mine
on day one. I saw Billy Baxter who had a big stack at another table
next to mine, Lynne Ji walked around in a slinky black dress with no bra which was a treat, also saw Doug Polk at a nearby table, man he was a
talker, and all the other players that you have seen every year for the
last 30 years and don't know but know their faces. It was just a
singularly exciting experience.
Highly recommend.
The Main certainly is a unique tournament, more so than I thought it would be. Two hour levels is an insane amount of time to play considering the chips (60k) and the gradual, slow increase. I was fortunate on day one
early on when I had AA and busted KK. I ended up 4 betting all-in pre flop and this guy agonized for a long time, finally pushing in his stack and saying if you got it, you got it. I was elated of course, but then I realized I had to fade five cards to actually win the pot. I did, but holy fuck it was stressful.
The other thing is that the players are all good and aggressive. I know the pros always talk of soft players and dead money in the Main, and that was probably true back in the day and I'm sure they're talking about players like me, but there are simply no rich business guys who have never played before plopping down $10k to play a tournament for the first time. All the tables I played were full of killers. Everyone knew what they were doing.
My day one table had Shota Nakanishi, who was hyper aggressive and hitting hands. He was actually a very pleasant kid, but is apparently a high stakes cash game pro and you could tell he was just a stone killer. He got a big stack early and pretty much controlled my table on day one.
Scott Berko pretty much did the same thing at my table on day two. Deck ran over him all day. I raised three times in LP or on the button and all three times he made huge re-raises from the BB or SB. The last I had AK and thought for a long time about shoving, which the kids say is %100 the play, but I was playing tight and just felt like I was beat. He showed KK and
said that he had AA and QQ on the other hands, and I believe him. He showed down huge hands all day.
Third day I was really short and on the second hand of the day I picked up A-10s and raised from MP. Got two callers. Flop was 10-2-3 with one spade. One of the callers bet, the other raised, and I raised all-in. Both went
all in behind me with bigger stacks. AA and KK! They both slow played
these hands. I figured I was just dead unless I hit running flush, but the turn was the immediate 10! River was a 2 and I had a full house to triple.
I could not believe it.
The funny thing about that hand was that the KK was under the gun and he originally got a 4, but the dealer pitched it so it hit his hand and turned over. So, the 4 was the burn and he got another card--a second K as it turned out, and he actually said right then that he hoped it didn't disrupt the natural order of the cards to fuck him and bust--and it actually did! I tripled through both of them, but the AA had him covered and busted him in the side pot. All day, whenever some irregularity happened we all oooohhed and said the mojo was still in play. It was kinda funny.
There was a discussion of when the bad joo-joo would be broken and we decided that it was in play until the table broke. New guys would come in and every time there was an exposed card we'd say, don't tell them about it as running joke at the table.
I just went totally card dead after that. Nursed a short stack late into
day three near the bubble. On the last level I picked up JJ, raised, and
got a single caller. Flop was 9-high and I bet, got raised, raised all in and was called by AA. I did not improve on the turn or river. He slowed played it perfectly. I did not expect that and he simply got me. Did not improve and I busted. No bad beat, he just trapped me pure.
Later, I looked at the list of stacks during that time and was surprised at how many stacks were way shorter than mine. Lots of folks nursing short stacks to cash early on Day 4. Had I known that, I may have played differently to cash, but I don't know. My goal really wasn't to just cash, but I could have pretty easily had I known the numbers.
The slow, marathon pace of the Main is totally unique. I can understand why Hellmuth and others sometimes buy-in on Day 2. It's entirely doable. Personally, I like to play so I would not do that. Seeing all the poker personalities is cool, too. Jamie Gold announced shuffle up and deal in my room and then he sat and played at the table next to mine on day one. I saw Billy Baxter who had a big stack at another table next to mine, Lynne Ji walked around in a slinky black dress with no bra which was a treat, also saw Doug Polk at a nearby table, man he was a talker, and all the other players that you have seen every year for the last 30 years and don't know but know their faces. It was just a singularly exciting experience.
Highly recommend.
I agree, there's something "immoral" about weaseling around for an entire day just to cash; "they" would have had to throw jj away as too risky in that case.
The Main certainly is a unique tournament, more so than I thought it would be. Two hour levels is an insane amount of time to play considering the
chips (60k) and the gradual, slow increase. I was fortunate on day one
early on when I had AA and busted KK. I ended up 4 betting all-in pre flop and this guy agonized for a long time, finally pushing in his stack and saying if you got it, you got it. I was elated of course, but then I
realized I had to fade five cards to actually win the pot. I did, but holy fuck it was stressful.
The other thing is that the players are all good and aggressive. I know
the
pros always talk of soft players and dead money in the Main, and that was probably true back in the day and I'm sure they're talking about players
like me, but there are simply no rich business guys who have never played before plopping down $10k to play a tournament for the first time. All the tables I played were full of killers. Everyone knew what they were doing.
My day one table had Shota Nakanishi, who was hyper aggressive and hitting hands. He was actually a very pleasant kid, but is apparently a high
stakes
cash game pro and you could tell he was just a stone killer. He got a big stack early and pretty much controlled my table on day one.
Scott Berko pretty much did the same thing at my table on day two. Deck
ran
over him all day. I raised three times in LP or on the button and all
three
times he made huge re-raises from the BB or SB. The last I had AK and
thought for a long time about shoving, which the kids say is %100 the
play,
but I was playing tight and just felt like I was beat. He showed KK and
said that he had AA and QQ on the other hands, and I believe him. He
showed
down huge hands all day.
Third day I was really short and on the second hand of the day I picked up A-10s and raised from MP. Got two callers. Flop was 10-2-3 with one spade. One of the callers bet, the other raised, and I raised all-in. Both went
all in behind me with bigger stacks. AA and KK! They both slow played
these hands. I figured I was just dead unless I hit running flush, but the turn was the immediate 10! River was a 2 and I had a full house to triple.
I could not believe it.
The funny thing about that hand was that the KK was under the gun and he originally got a 4, but the dealer pitched it so it hit his hand and
turned
over. So, the 4 was the burn and he got another card--a second K as it
turned out, and he actually said right then that he hoped it didn't
disrupt
the natural order of the cards to fuck him and bust--and it actually did!
I
tripled through both of them, but the AA had him covered and busted him in the side pot. All day, whenever some irregularity happened we all oooohhed and said the mojo was still in play. It was kinda funny.
There was a discussion of when the bad joo-joo would be broken and we
decided that it was in play until the table broke. New guys would come in
and every time there was an exposed card we'd say, don't tell them about
it
as running joke at the table.
I just went totally card dead after that. Nursed a short stack late into
day three near the bubble. On the last level I picked up JJ, raised, and
got a single caller. Flop was 9-high and I bet, got raised, raised all in
and was called by AA. I did not improve on the turn or river. He slowed played it perfectly. I did not expect that and he simply got me. Did not improve and I busted. No bad beat, he just trapped me pure.
Later, I looked at the list of stacks during that time and was surprised
at
how many stacks were way shorter than mine. Lots of folks nursing short stacks to cash early on Day 4. Had I known that, I may have played differently to cash, but I don't know. My goal really wasn't to just cash, but I could have pretty easily had I known the numbers.
The slow, marathon pace of the Main is totally unique. I can understand
why
Hellmuth and others sometimes buy-in on Day 2. It's entirely doable. Personally, I like to play so I would not do that. Seeing all the poker personalities is cool, too. Jamie Gold announced shuffle up and deal in my room and then he sat and played at the table next to mine on day one. I
saw
Billy Baxter who had a big stack at another table next to mine, Lynne Ji walked around in a slinky black dress with no bra which was a treat, also
saw Doug Polk at a nearby table, man he was a talker, and all the other players that you have seen every year for the last 30 years and don't know but know their faces. It was just a singularly exciting experience.
Highly recommend.
The Main certainly is a unique tournament, more so than I thought it would be. Two hour levels is an insane amount of time to play considering the chips (60k) and the gradual, slow increase. I was fortunate on day one
early on when I had AA and busted KK. I ended up 4 betting all-in pre flop and this guy agonized for a long time, finally pushing in his stack and saying if you got it, you got it. I was elated of course, but then I realized I had to fade five cards to actually win the pot. I did, but holy fuck it was stressful.
The other thing is that the players are all good and aggressive. I know the pros always talk of soft players and dead money in the Main, and that was probably true back in the day and I'm sure they're talking about players like me, but there are simply no rich business guys who have never played before plopping down $10k to play a tournament for the first time. All the tables I played were full of killers. Everyone knew what they were doing.
My day one table had Shota Nakanishi, who was hyper aggressive and hitting hands. He was actually a very pleasant kid, but is apparently a high stakes cash game pro and you could tell he was just a stone killer. He got a big stack early and pretty much controlled my table on day one.
Scott Berko pretty much did the same thing at my table on day two. Deck ran over him all day. I raised three times in LP or on the button and all three times he made huge re-raises from the BB or SB. The last I had AK and thought for a long time about shoving, which the kids say is %100 the play, but I was playing tight and just felt like I was beat. He showed KK and
said that he had AA and QQ on the other hands, and I believe him. He showed down huge hands all day.
Third day I was really short and on the second hand of the day I picked up A-10s and raised from MP. Got two callers. Flop was 10-2-3 with one spade. One of the callers bet, the other raised, and I raised all-in. Both went
all in behind me with bigger stacks. AA and KK! They both slow played
these hands. I figured I was just dead unless I hit running flush, but the turn was the immediate 10! River was a 2 and I had a full house to triple.
I could not believe it.
The funny thing about that hand was that the KK was under the gun and he originally got a 4, but the dealer pitched it so it hit his hand and turned over. So, the 4 was the burn and he got another card--a second K as it turned out, and he actually said right then that he hoped it didn't disrupt the natural order of the cards to fuck him and bust--and it actually did! I tripled through both of them, but the AA had him covered and busted him in the side pot. All day, whenever some irregularity happened we all oooohhed and said the mojo was still in play. It was kinda funny.
There was a discussion of when the bad joo-joo would be broken and we decided that it was in play until the table broke. New guys would come in and every time there was an exposed card we'd say, don't tell them about it as running joke at the table.
I just went totally card dead after that. Nursed a short stack late into
day three near the bubble. On the last level I picked up JJ, raised, and
got a single caller. Flop was 9-high and I bet, got raised, raised all in and was called by AA. I did not improve on the turn or river. He slowed played it perfectly. I did not expect that and he simply got me. Did not improve and I busted. No bad beat, he just trapped me pure.
Later, I looked at the list of stacks during that time and was surprised at how many stacks were way shorter than mine. Lots of folks nursing short stacks to cash early on Day 4. Had I known that, I may have played differently to cash, but I don't know. My goal really wasn't to just cash, but I could have pretty easily had I known the numbers.
The slow, marathon pace of the Main is totally unique. I can understand why Hellmuth and others sometimes buy-in on Day 2. It's entirely doable. Personally, I like to play so I would not do that. Seeing all the poker personalities is cool, too. Jamie Gold announced shuffle up and deal in my room and then he sat and played at the table next to mine on day one. I saw Billy Baxter who had a big stack at another table next to mine, Lynne Ji walked around in a slinky black dress with no bra which was a treat, also saw Doug Polk at a nearby table, man he was a talker, and all the other players that you have seen every year for the last 30 years and don't know but know their faces. It was just a singularly exciting experience.
Highly recommend.
The Main certainly is a unique tournament, more so than I thought it would be. Two hour levels is an insane amount of time to play considering the chips (60k) and the gradual, slow increase. I was fortunate on day one
early on when I had AA and busted KK. I ended up 4 betting all-in pre flop and this guy agonized for a long time, finally pushing in his stack and saying if you got it, you got it. I was elated of course, but then I realized I had to fade five cards to actually win the pot. I did, but holy fuck it was stressful.
The other thing is that the players are all good and aggressive. I know the pros always talk of soft players and dead money in the Main, and that was probably true back in the day and I'm sure they're talking about players like me, but there are simply no rich business guys who have never played before plopping down $10k to play a tournament for the first time. All the tables I played were full of killers. Everyone knew what they were doing.
My day one table had Shota Nakanishi, who was hyper aggressive and hitting hands. He was actually a very pleasant kid, but is apparently a high stakes cash game pro and you could tell he was just a stone killer. He got a big stack early and pretty much controlled my table on day one.
Scott Berko pretty much did the same thing at my table on day two. Deck ran over him all day. I raised three times in LP or on the button and all three times he made huge re-raises from the BB or SB. The last I had AK and thought for a long time about shoving, which the kids say is %100 the play, but I was playing tight and just felt like I was beat. He showed KK and
said that he had AA and QQ on the other hands, and I believe him. He showed down huge hands all day.
Third day I was really short and on the second hand of the day I picked up A-10s and raised from MP. Got two callers. Flop was 10-2-3 with one spade. One of the callers bet, the other raised, and I raised all-in. Both went
all in behind me with bigger stacks. AA and KK! They both slow played
these hands. I figured I was just dead unless I hit running flush, but the turn was the immediate 10! River was a 2 and I had a full house to triple.
I could not believe it.
The funny thing about that hand was that the KK was under the gun and he originally got a 4, but the dealer pitched it so it hit his hand and turned over. So, the 4 was the burn and he got another card--a second K as it turned out, and he actually said right then that he hoped it didn't disrupt the natural order of the cards to fuck him and bust--and it actually did! I tripled through both of them, but the AA had him covered and busted him in the side pot. All day, whenever some irregularity happened we all oooohhed and said the mojo was still in play. It was kinda funny.
There was a discussion of when the bad joo-joo would be broken and we decided that it was in play until the table broke. New guys would come in and every time there was an exposed card we'd say, don't tell them about it as running joke at the table.
I just went totally card dead after that. Nursed a short stack late into
day three near the bubble. On the last level I picked up JJ, raised, and
got a single caller. Flop was 9-high and I bet, got raised, raised all in and was called by AA. I did not improve on the turn or river. He slowed played it perfectly. I did not expect that and he simply got me. Did not improve and I busted. No bad beat, he just trapped me pure.
Later, I looked at the list of stacks during that time and was surprised at how many stacks were way shorter than mine. Lots of folks nursing short stacks to cash early on Day 4. Had I known that, I may have played differently to cash, but I don't know. My goal really wasn't to just cash, but I could have pretty easily had I known the numbers.
The slow, marathon pace of the Main is totally unique. I can understand why Hellmuth and others sometimes buy-in on Day 2. It's entirely doable. Personally, I like to play so I would not do that. Seeing all the poker personalities is cool, too. Jamie Gold announced shuffle up and deal in my room and then he sat and played at the table next to mine on day one. I saw Billy Baxter who had a big stack at another table next to mine, Lynne Ji walked around in a slinky black dress with no bra which was a treat, also saw Doug Polk at a nearby table, man he was a talker, and all the other players that you have seen every year for the last 30 years and don't know but know their faces. It was just a singularly exciting experience.
Highly recommend.
I've had $25,840 in handpays in June through so far in July.
On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 5:48:20 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
I've had $25,840 in handpays in June through so far in July.I'm a little over 12 June thru July.
Anyone who gambles enough hits hand pays. Net over time is impressive. Hourly is impressive. Do the W2s affect your social security?
C
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 12:57:03 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
Anyone who gambles enough hits hand pays. Net over time is impressive. Hourly is impressive. Do the W2s affect your social security?
CDo the W2s affect my Social Security? Heck yes. My AGI is affected, my Social Security is taxed 100%. I have to pay quarterly on my gambling winnings. It's all a pain in the ass.
I thought the AGI would affect the payment amount, but maybe only until FRA. I've been paying quarterly for decades. I'm not going to have too much sympathy there. How does CA handle the W2s? Do they remove tax at payment? I presume CA has income tax.Do they allow you to deduct losses?
C
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 12:36:25 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:Do they allow you to deduct losses?
I thought the AGI would affect the payment amount, but maybe only until FRA. I've been paying quarterly for decades. I'm not going to have too much sympathy there. How does CA handle the W2s? Do they remove tax at payment? I presume CA has income tax.
ZERO in seven spins. I was pissed. Still had a pretty good night.CCalifornia is essentially a carbon copy of the Federal. And yes, losses are deducted up to the amount of winnings.
I was so mad this morning. Playing Pigs, $6 button at 2 cent denom, so in other words $12 a hand. The four jackpots are around $200 each. Yellow and Red Pig goes off without the Blue. That's ok, I'll at least get $400. NOPE! I blanked out. Completely
After my short experience on the game I decided to largely disregard yellow as a playing decision.
I had both the mega and the grand filled in one symbol shy of taking them down with 10 games left. Neither hit.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:23:21 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
I had both the mega and the grand filled in one symbol shy of taking them down with 10 games left. Neither hit.LOL :-)
I've done that with 20 left to go. ZIP! Rigged.
But I have hit Grand before. So it can happen.
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 6:23:21 AM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
After my short experience on the game I decided to largely disregard yellow as a playing decision.Disagree. Made my own criteria for Yellow. (Trade Secret, sorry)
No worries. I'll think about it. Most of my play last weekend was on other games that weren't getting poked at by other hustlers for some reason. It was a very profitable beginning to my new hobby. I should have been doing this years ago.
C
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