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    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 13:15:05 2023
    Holy shit.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Jul 20 13:31:08 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.

    Hell, look at Rhodium. That was over 25K not long ago...now it's 3350. A while ago, I heard palladium and Rhodium were too expensive so the car companies were thinking about substituting Platinum instead for the catalytic converters. Not sure the
    truth, but I ignore all 3 because I prefer the metals that also have a money use such as gold and silver. I know a guy who got palladium years ago for like $200/oz. Another problem would be unloading those 3 metals when it's time. The market is a bit
    less liquid for platinum and way less liquid for palladium and Rhodium. I guess you could also sell to one of the big online sites, but I'm sure you won't be getting top dollar.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Jul 20 14:01:03 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:31:13 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:


    Hell, look at Rhodium. That was over 25K not long ago...now it's 3350.

    OMG! I was not aware of this. Can't believe I missed that news. But you are right about Gold and Silver being real money, not the other metals.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Jul 20 14:30:58 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:01:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:31:13 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:


    Hell, look at Rhodium. That was over 25K not long ago...now it's 3350.
    OMG! I was not aware of this. Can't believe I missed that news. But you are right about Gold and Silver being real money, not the other metals.

    I go to Kitco.com to look at the metals spot prices and charts occasionally. I glanced at them today and found that Rhodium price. I then looked up the buy/sell spread on Kitco and it was ridiculous. They'd buy physical rhodium from you at the 3350
    spot price, but it was like $8500 for Rhodium physical if you wanted to buy it. A 150% spread. Spreads on all physical metals are still ridiculous these days. I bought my physical metals back in 2018 and paid almost spot for everything, but that
    was at a bottom. If silver goes to around 50 and gold around 2900, I'll probably start to lighten up a bit on my holdings.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jul 20 14:44:29 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay

    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go
    ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and
    stick your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Jul 20 14:47:24 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go ahead
    and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick your
    money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.

    Glad you made money, but it was only "risk free" in hindsight.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Jul 20 14:50:50 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go ahead
    and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick your
    money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.

    So your price predictions are.....what?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jul 20 14:51:27 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:47:28 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go
    ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick
    your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.
    Glad you made money, but it was only "risk free" in hindsight.

    Bullshit. I knew damn well I was buying at the bottom...and unlike stocks, or bonds, or crypto, etc, that metal will always have intrinsic value. The only real risk was a home invasion and my house is well defended by friend's Smith and Wesson.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Jul 20 14:57:26 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:51:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:47:28 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go
    ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick
    your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.
    Glad you made money, but it was only "risk free" in hindsight.

    Bullshit. I knew damn well I was buying at the bottom...and unlike stocks, or bonds, or crypto, etc, that metal will always have intrinsic value. The only real risk was a home invasion and my house is well defended by friend's Smith and Wesson.

    How much money did you make?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jul 20 15:04:28 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:50:54 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go
    ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick
    your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.
    So your price predictions are.....what?
    1. Price predictions on an exact "day" are stupid. For example, you razz Paul about Platinum, and ya, on that exact day it wasn't $1300, but it had been $1296 not too long before....guess you missed that fact.
    2. My exact prediction is that silver and gold will both go higher over this next year till maybe the Presidential election. There are different resistance levels out there.....silver has resistance at $30 and at $50. Either could hit If neither of
    these two targets hit by Feb1, 2025, I'll come into this group and concede to you BillB. However, even if silver stays the same, I win....after all, the gold/silver are insurance for me during volatile times....which I expect to pass at some point....
    maybe by 2030ish.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jul 20 15:07:27 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:57:30 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:51:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:47:28 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you go
    ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and stick
    your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.
    Glad you made money, but it was only "risk free" in hindsight.

    Bullshit. I knew damn well I was buying at the bottom...and unlike stocks, or bonds, or crypto, etc, that metal will always have intrinsic value. The only real risk was a home invasion and my house is well defended by friend's Smith and Wesson.
    How much money did you make?

    Are you trying to make me count my money while I'm sitting at the table? Kenny Rogers told me not to do that, but by all means, tell us what you've made on your stocks. And, by the way, why not disclose to the class what your stocks are and your
    predictions by the Presidential election, so we can all share in your enlightened successes.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Jul 20 14:25:40 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.

    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Jul 20 15:17:30 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:07:32 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:57:30 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:51:31 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:47:28 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:44:34 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:25:44 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.
    "Platinum: $1300 by March 1st, 2023" -- Paul Popinjay
    Hey Bill. I bought my silver for $14ish in the fall of 2018. It's $25 now. That's a 79% gain in less than 5 years. So, more than 16%/yr......risk free. And, the expected catalysts to send it higher I don't even expect until this fall. So, you
    go ahead and keep trying to trash talk precious metals during the best single time since 1980 to buy precious metals. These times don't come often....and often you shouldn't be in precious metals, but this is one of those times. But, you go ahead and
    stick your money in an index or whatever stock because before this Presidential election I'll be laughing my ass off at ya. And, by all means, time stamp this post. We'll continue this conversation at the next Presidential election.
    Glad you made money, but it was only "risk free" in hindsight.

    Bullshit. I knew damn well I was buying at the bottom...and unlike stocks, or bonds, or crypto, etc, that metal will always have intrinsic value. The only real risk was a home invasion and my house is well defended by friend's Smith and Wesson.
    How much money did you make?
    Are you trying to make me count my money while I'm sitting at the table? Kenny Rogers told me not to do that, but by all means, tell us what you've made on your stocks. And, by the way, why not disclose to the class what your stocks are and your
    predictions by the Presidential election, so we can all share in your enlightened successes.

    I don't consider stocks risk free. I only asked you how much you made because if I ever found an investment that was risk free (like you did) I'd be leveraging our entire net worth to the hilt to buy millions of dollars worth. But finding a risk free
    investment is like spotting a herd of three-legged unicorns.

    Do you see any other investments that you "know" have hit bottom, or was it just that one time?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Jul 20 16:12:01 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    I don't consider stocks risk free. I only asked you how much you made because if I ever found an investment that was risk free (like you did) I'd be leveraging our entire net worth to the hilt to buy millions of dollars worth. But finding a risk free
    investment is like spotting a herd of three-legged unicorns.

    But, you weren't listening to me very closely....it wasn't an investment as much as it was an insurance policy....any money made is just a plus.

    Do you see any other investments that you "know" have hit bottom, or was it just that one time?
    That's the only one I knew mathematically was bottomed out....and even then I was still lucky to have noticed and acted in time before it went up...so I was still lucky. But silver is cyclical. It's not going to go bust. Ever. So, if you see it in
    historical lows, you can just buy it at the low before you expect it to cycle back up to the highs. It's no big secret here.

    BTW, I saw a pic of a three horned, three eyed, bull today. They exist.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 20 22:34:55 2023
    Paul Popinjay <[email protected]> wrote:
    Holy shit.

    It was $2900 in 2021: <https://www.macrotrends.net/2542/palladium-prices-historical-chart-data>

    --bks

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Thu Jul 20 16:17:51 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:35:02 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:


    It was $2900 in 2021:

    That's my point, fuckface.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 20 23:26:09 2023
    Paul Popinjay <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:35:02 PM UTC-7, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

    It was $2900 in 2021:

    That's my point, fuckface.

    It was $600 in 2016. No idea what point you think you're making.

    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sat Aug 19 17:39:24 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Holy shit.

    This was a very very good video by Rick Rule being interviewed. Discussed Platinum, Uranium, Russian stocks, silver miners: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TXNl23IWo

    Separate but related issue, I had similar concerns of some stock investments as Rick Rule, but then I thought about it....only thing that really hurts the stocks is WW3....and if WW3 happens, I'm probably one of the first to be vaporized, so I'm keeping
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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Thu Sep 21 17:35:19 2023
    On July 20, jack roth wrote:
    A while ago, I heard palladium and Rhodium were too expensive so the car companies were thinking
    about substituting Platinum instead for the catalytic converters.

    eh?
    Platinum is standard in those devices.

    The question is, who's buying the stolen parts? Where's the market?
    It seems like, even if the cops can't catch them in the act, they can
    nab the buyers, through undercover sting operations.

    Always works on teevee, anyhow -

    --
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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Sep 21 19:31:06 2023
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 5:35:24 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On July 20, jack roth wrote:
    A while ago, I heard palladium and Rhodium were too expensive so the car companies were thinking
    about substituting Platinum instead for the catalytic converters.
    eh?
    Platinum is standard in those devices.

    Actually, I think Palladium and Rhodium became standard but they were thinking of switching back to platinum because of price and availability.


    The question is, who's buying the stolen parts? Where's the market?

    Recyclers are buying them..the metal can easily be fenced.

    It seems like, even if the cops can't catch them in the act, they can
    nab the buyers, through undercover sting operations.

    Yes, and I've made those inquiries directly to the detective that matters in my area as I grew up with him. Realize they have to prioritize their crime and they may have any number of violent crime investigations going on simultaneously and much
    bigger theft investigations going on. So, they'll let everyone's comprehensive insurance cover it and deputies on patrol will make sure to make any opportunistic arrest of catalytic thieves when they can and that does happen because their main weapon
    of policing out here seems to be using those automatic plate readers to spot cars owned by those on probation and parole and then pulling them over and doing a search...and low and behold they are all invariably still committing crime every single time.


    Always works on teevee, anyhow -

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    Rich

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