• Paying Taxes on your Retirement Withdrawals

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 20 19:15:03 2023
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Jun 20 20:14:25 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?

    Roth IRA earnings.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Jun 21 08:04:23 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 11:14:28 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    Roth IRA earnings.

    Roth IRA earnings... For now

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Jun 21 11:23:01 2023
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?

    Roth IRA? Or you should ask the rich Republicans. They're the ones that invent tax-free deductions.
    Remember Tax Cuts for the Rich?

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Jun 21 14:02:15 2023
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:23:40 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    Roth IRA? Or you should ask the rich Republicans. They're the ones that invent tax-free deductions.
    Remember Tax Cuts for the Rich?


    You still pay taxes on a Roth IRA. What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Jun 21 14:47:09 2023
    On June 21, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.

    For this:
    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/sea-power-us-navy-and-foreign-policy

    Who do you think pays for that? Your Repreparasite?
    The Free Lunch Gummit?


    --
    Rich

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Jun 21 14:58:20 2023
    On June 20, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCntCKHy6I

    "Should five per cent appear too small,
    be thankful I don't take it all.
    Don't ask me what I want it for.
    You're working for no one but me"

    Have the Dems canceled the Beatles yet?
    They're spreading MISINFORMATION!
    Anti-taxism is RACISM!

    --
    Rich

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Jun 22 10:12:32 2023
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 2:02:18 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 11:23:40 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 7:15:06 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    Roth IRA? Or you should ask the rich Republicans. They're the ones that invent tax-free deductions.
    Remember Tax Cuts for the Rich?
    .
    You still pay taxes on a Roth IRA.

    Only when putting in.

    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.

    Yea, being it's not..

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Jun 22 12:28:53 2023
    On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.
    Yea, being it's not..


    Speak for yourself, numbnuts.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 23 11:01:13 2023
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU
    HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?


    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Jun 23 10:49:21 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction over $10,000, and failure to
    comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Jun 23 10:56:16 2023
    On June 21, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.

    https://www.wdrb.com/news/business/ford-lands-9-2-billion-in-government-financing-for-kentucky-tennessee-battery-plants/article_218d772c-111b-11ee-badf-e77dbf074edf.html

    --
    Rich

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Jun 23 13:33:57 2023
    "VegasJerry" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT
    MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so
    I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by
    a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction
    over $10,000, and failure to comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions


    ___________



    Yes, Jerry, I'm a lawyer, I know all of that. I'm just complaining about
    it.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Jun 23 15:05:09 2023
    On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.
    Yea, being it's not..


    85% of my Social Security was taxed. Suck my cock.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Jun 23 14:49:47 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:


    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction over $10,000, and failure to comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions ___________



    Yes, Jerry, I'm a lawyer, I know all of that. I'm just complaining about
    it.


    Retard Jerry thinks drug trafficking and "laundering" is something new. He doesn't think government is an intrusion at all. I'm sure he supports tyranny every step of the way. He's one of them.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Jun 23 16:08:24 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 2:49:52 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:


    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are
    subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction over $10,000, and failure to comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions
    ___________



    Yes, Jerry, I'm a lawyer, I know all of that. I'm just complaining about it.
    .
    Retard Jerry thinks ...
    .

    Oh, oh. Another worm coming out of the woods to ("think" he'll) make up another fake position
    for me... Then 'think' he's arguing that made-up fake position.

    ... drug trafficking and "laundering" is something new. He doesn't think government is an intrusion
    at all. I'm sure he supports tyranny every step of the way. He's one of them.

    See? Two "I thinks," and a "I'm sure."

    Heh.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Fri Jun 23 16:09:22 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 3:05:14 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    What I really want to know is why my Social Security is heavily taxed.
    Yea, being it's not..
    .
    85% of my Social Security was taxed. Suck my cock.

    You 'think' you deserve unearned income?

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Jun 23 17:39:41 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.
    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence transsferring their money to the customers or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose. Anything over $5K is automatically flagged.
    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you are doing with your own money and declining the transaction. For example, if you wanted to buy gold and silver with it, they may decide on their own that's a bad investment and
    decline it. Sick, huh? Billionaire Alice Walton(from Walmart family) decided she wanted to transfer $50M of her money to a bullion dealer to buy American silver eagles and it took days and threats before they allowed it to go through.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Jun 23 17:42:15 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    "VegasJerry" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction over $10,000, and failure to comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions ___________



    Yes, Jerry, I'm a lawyer, I know all of that. I'm just complaining about
    it.

    Jerry is about 40 years behind the times. Doesn't realize they are tracking everyone's money now and much smaller amounts....but Jerry still wants to think he's in the loop somehow.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Sat Jun 24 10:23:54 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:42:19 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:34:06 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    "VegasJerry" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU
    HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so
    I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by
    a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of
    today.

    Because of drug trafficking, and laundering, wire transfers over $10,000 are
    subject to reporting requirements under the Bank Secrecy Act. Financial institutions must file a Currency Transaction Report for any transaction over $10,000, and failure to comply with these requirements can result in significant penalties.

    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand-how-to-report-large-cash-transactions
    ___________



    Yes, Jerry, I'm a lawyer, I know all of that. I'm just complaining about it.
    .

    Jerry is about 40 years behind the times. Doesn't realize they are tracking everyone's money now and much
    smaller amounts....but Jerry still wants to think he's in the loop somehow.

    See what i mean?

    ***** KNEW YOU COULDN'T SHOW!(R) ****

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Sat Jun 24 10:22:48 2023
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:39:45 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.
    .

    Oh, Christ! Here goes this delusional fuck…..
    .


    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.

    See what I mean?

    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence transsferring their money to the customers
    or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose.


    That’s for foreign accounts, you ignorant fuck.


    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you are doing with your own money
    and declining the transaction.


    *** Then you should have no trouble showing us a few dozen. ® ***

    LOL!


    For example, if you wanted to buy gold and silver with it, they may decide on their own that's a bad
    investment and decline it. Sick, huh?

    Yea, you’re sick because this is just another of your delusions.

    //NEXT//

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Jun 24 17:33:56 2023
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:39:45 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU
    HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of
    today.
    .

    Oh, Christ! Here goes this delusional fuck…..
    .


    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.
    See what I mean?

    You are a moron. Plenty of public info on it Maybe you should try googling. You seem to have no problem googling any other time when you want to pretend to be an expert on something.

    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence transsferring their money to the customers
    or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose.
    That’s for foreign accounts, you ignorant fuck.

    Hey, dumbschit. Go to your own bank and ask them....FATCA rules apply to American banks, too, you buffoonish simp of an incel.

    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you are doing with your own money
    and declining the transaction.
    *** Then you should have no trouble showing us a few dozen. ® ***

    Can we start with mine own examples? Because it's happened to me more than once already. Of course, you have to actually HAVE money before they give a shit what you do with it. You don't seemed to be burdened with that.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to jack roth on Sun Jun 25 12:27:13 2023
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 5:34:00 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:39:45 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU
    HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank
    bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of
    today.
    .

    Oh, Christ! Here goes this delusional fuck…..
    .


    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.
    .
    See what I mean?
    .
    You are a moron. Plenty of public info on it Maybe you should try googling.


    See what I mean, AGAIN!
    *** Knew you couldn’t show, AGAIN ***
    .

    You seem to have no problem googling any other time when you want to pretend to be an expert on something.
    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence transsferring their money to the customers
    or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose.
    .
    That’s for foreign accounts, you ignorant fuck.
    .

    Hey, dumbschit. Go to your own bank and ask them....FATCA rules apply to American banks, too,
    you buffoonish simp of an incel.

    See what I mean, AGAIN!
    *** Knew you couldn’t show, AGAIN ***
    .

    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you are doing with your own money
    and declining the transaction.
    .
    *** Then you should have no trouble showing us a few dozen. ® ***

    Can we start with mine own examples?

    See what I mean, AGAIN!
    *** Knew you couldn’t show, AGAIN ***
    .
    Like I said, above. “Oh, Christ! Here goes this delusional fuck…..”
    .
    .
    .

    Because it's happened to me more than once already. Of course, you have to actually HAVE money before they give a shit what you do with it. You don't seemed to be burdened with that.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Sun Jun 25 17:38:20 2023
    "jack roth" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT
    MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't
    owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so
    I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by
    a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have
    to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.
    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence
    transsferring their money to the customers or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose. Anything over $5K
    is automatically flagged.
    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you
    are doing with your own money and declining the transaction. For example,
    if you wanted to buy gold and silver with it, they may decide on their own that's a bad investment and decline it. Sick, huh? Billionaire Alice Walton(from Walmart family) decided she wanted to transfer $50M of her money
    to a bullion dealer to buy American silver eagles and it took days and
    threats before they allowed it to go through.


    ______________


    Yes, it's insane. I remember reading about that purchase of Silver Eagles, something like 900,000 of them.

    I went though something similar last year when I wanted to use my debit card
    to buy a gold bar for about $6k. Had to get approval for the increase in
    limit and had to tell some bank clerk what I was buying. So infuriating.

    I fear that younger generations just take this bullshit in stride and think it's normal for the government to know everything you do. I'm kinda glad I won't be around 50 years from now to witness the total demise of privacy and the stranglehold Big Brother will have on everyone.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Sun Jun 25 17:32:02 2023
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:38:30 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    "jack roth" wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
    THIS E-MAIL IS UNAUTHORIZED AND MAY VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE DELETE IT AND REPORT MIS-DELIVERY
    TO 405.753.4150.
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    Even Social Security. What a fucking racket. Is there anything you don't owe taxes on?
    __________________


    I'm trying to transfer $10k to the WSOP for a Main Event buy-in on the BravoLIve app before I fly out to Vegas. The transaction was declined, so I
    had to call my bank to raise the transfer limit. I've been through two customer service agents with my bank and now have to wait for approval by a
    Regional Manager.

    These fucks ask you directly what the money is for and you apparently have to tell them. It is making irrationally angry to have to explain to bank bureaucrats what I'm doing with my own money.

    Someone from 1950 would have a heart attack at the government intrusion of today.

    1. As of 2014, it's no longer YOUR money. Once you give the money to them, you are now a creditor.
    2. With FATCA, etc, banks are now required to do due diligence
    transsferring their money to the customers or on behalf of the customers to make sure it's not being used for any suspicious purpose. Anything over $5K is automatically flagged.
    3. There are countless reports of banks deciding they don't like what you are doing with your own money and declining the transaction. For example,
    if you wanted to buy gold and silver with it, they may decide on their own that's a bad investment and decline it. Sick, huh? Billionaire Alice Walton(from Walmart family) decided she wanted to transfer $50M of her money to a bullion dealer to buy American silver eagles and it took days and threats before they allowed it to go through.
    ______________


    Yes, it's insane. I remember reading about that purchase of Silver Eagles, something like 900,000 of them.

    I went though something similar last year when I wanted to use my debit card to buy a gold bar for about $6k. Had to get approval for the increase in limit and had to tell some bank clerk what I was buying. So infuriating.

    I fear that younger generations just take this bullshit in stride and think it's normal for the government to know everything you do. I'm kinda glad I won't be around 50 years from now to witness the total demise of privacy and the stranglehold Big Brother will have on everyone.

    IMO, we're on the precipice right now of total loss of privacy once the CBDC's start. Funny how Central Banks are buying up thousands of tonnes of gold right now, but your bank will make you feel like a criminal for having any.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Sun Jun 25 18:54:35 2023
    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:38:30 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:


    I went though something similar last year when I wanted to use my debit card to buy a gold bar for about $6k.


    What are you going to do with a $6k bar of gold? Hit a burglar over the head with it?

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Sun Jun 25 21:37:40 2023
    "Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:38:30 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:


    I went though something similar last year when I wanted to use my debit
    card
    to buy a gold bar for about $6k.


    What are you going to do with a $6k bar of gold? Hit a burglar over the
    head with it?

    ________


    I have plenty of guns and ammo to take care of burglars. The gold is to
    hold and sell if I every have to. I think it is only 2.5 ounces or so, not nearly enough to take out a burglar. But, I have some kilos of silver that would hurt like hell.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Jun 26 10:09:16 2023
    OnJune 25, Mossingen wrote:
    What are you going to do with a $6k bar of gold? Hit a burglar over the
    head with it?

    I have plenty of guns and ammo to take care of burglars. The gold is to
    hold and sell if I every have to. I think it is only 2.5 ounces or so, not nearly enough to take out a burglar. But, I have some kilos of silver that would hurt like hell.


    I carry this routinely, in a shoulder bag:
    https://tinyurl.com/bopper-11

    "'Well officer, it's for emergencies, you never know when you might
    need a replacement trailer hitch."

    --
    Rich

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Mon Jun 26 11:10:09 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:09:20 AM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    OnJune 25, Mossingen wrote:
    What are you going to do with a $6k bar of gold? Hit a burglar over the >> head with it?

    I have plenty of guns and ammo to take care of burglars. The gold is to hold and sell if I every have to. I think it is only 2.5 ounces or so, not nearly enough to take out a burglar. But, I have some kilos of silver that would hurt like hell.
    I carry this routinely, in a shoulder bag:
    https://tinyurl.com/bopper-11

    "'Well officer, it's for emergencies, you never know when you might
    need a replacement trailer hitch."

    --
    Rich

    You'd be better off getting a CCW and packing.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jun 26 14:19:24 2023
    On June 26, jack roth wrote:
    I carry this routinely, in a shoulder bag:
    https://tinyurl.com/bopper-11
    "'Well officer, it's for emergencies, you never know when you might
    need a replacement trailer hitch."

    You'd be better off getting a CCW and packing.

    The pin has definite limitations.

    On the other hand, it's more portable, less bulky, than a pistol. And
    it offers more options for degree of damage, though one hard shot
    might still be fatal. Whereas, a gun is a doomsday weapon. You have
    to figure, in any case of violence, John Law will get involved, and you
    have to justify.

    --
    Rich

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to RichD on Mon Jun 26 16:37:57 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-4, RichD wrote:
    OnJune 25, Mossingen wrote:
    What are you going to do with a $6k bar of gold? Hit a burglar over the >> head with it?

    I have plenty of guns and ammo to take care of burglars. The gold is to hold and sell if I every have to. I think it is only 2.5 ounces or so, not nearly enough to take out a burglar. But, I have some kilos of silver that would hurt like hell.
    I carry this routinely, in a shoulder bag:
    https://tinyurl.com/bopper-11

    "'Well officer, it's for emergencies, you never know when you might
    need a replacement trailer hitch."

    --
    Rich

    Or an emergency dildo

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to RichD on Mon Jun 26 17:17:20 2023
    On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 2:19:28 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On June 26, jack roth wrote:
    I carry this routinely, in a shoulder bag:
    https://tinyurl.com/bopper-11
    "'Well officer, it's for emergencies, you never know when you might
    need a replacement trailer hitch."

    You'd be better off getting a CCW and packing.
    The pin has definite limitations.

    On the other hand, it's more portable, less bulky, than a pistol. And
    it offers more options for degree of damage, though one hard shot
    might still be fatal. Whereas, a gun is a doomsday weapon. You have
    to figure, in any case of violence, John Law will get involved, and you
    have to justify.

    --
    Rich

    I have a CCW, but as I get older, I find I'm more comfortable just taking simple precautions to avoid dealing with bad situations altogether. My weapons are mainly home invasion defense and also a cheap insurance policy in case we go full apocalypse
    or civil war.

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