Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just be
blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just be

blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.


Arnold did Blackjack Forum, if you remember that. He wrote a lot of stuff, about all kinds of stuff.

Speaking of playing blackjack, in my opinion, if one is a Californian, I would concentrate on Spanish 21. It is very big in many Indian joints, and there is essentially no heat. It is a much better game than regular blackjack.

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just be

blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.
.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:30:55 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just

be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.
.

Arnold did Blackjack Forum, if you remember that. He wrote a lot of stuff, about all kinds of stuff.

It's how they make their money.
.

Speaking of playing blackjack, in my opinion, if one is a Californian, I would concentrate on Spanish 21. It is very big in many Indian joints, and there is essentially no heat. It is a much better game than regular blackjack.

And the odds are still with the house..

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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:10:50 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

It's how they make their money.

You don't even know who he was, you ignoramus.

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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just

be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

Casinos have never welcomed me to play blackjack. They've been assholes.....shuffling up doubledecks every single hand.....or flat betting me.....or giving me the tap on the shoulder and outright banning me from BJ. Or, you can even have non-official
fuckery with dealers who think they can count....and you get things like old asian female dealers who'll shuffle up after 1 hand if a bunch of low cards come out on the first deal. Then watch how mouthy employees get if you don't toke them....then you
have to explain to them that's exactly WHY you don't toke them. Fucking lazy ass losers who can't get a real job...gotta be doing some mindless repetitive job where they don't use their brain and mooch tokes....what losers dealers are.

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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 2:23:11 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:10:50 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

It's how they make their money.

.

You don't even know who he was, you ignoramus.

That's the point. We know winners....

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On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:11:23 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and just

be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

.

Casinos have never welcomed me to play blackjack.

Oh, Jesus. More Jack Froth-at-the-mouth and his delusions of grandeur…

“Dealers that can’t count…”
“Always banning me…”
“I have to explain to dealers how to do their job…”
“Other players are losers, not me.”

Like I said, Jackoff, you are what keeps the lights on…
.
.
.
.

They've been assholes.....shuffling up doubledecks every single hand.....or flat betting me.....or giving me the tap on the shoulder and outright banning me from BJ. Or, you can even have non-official fuckery with dealers who think they can count....

and you get things like old asian female dealers who'll shuffle up after 1 hand if a bunch of low cards come out on the first deal. Then watch how mouthy employees get if you don't toke them....then you have to explain to them that's exactly WHY you don'
t toke them. Fucking lazy ass losers who can't get a real job...gotta be doing some mindless repetitive job where they don't use their brain and mooch tokes....what losers dealers are.

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On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:11:23 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and

just be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

.

Casinos have never welcomed me to play blackjack.

Oh, Jesus. More Jack Froth-at-the-mouth and his delusions of grandeur…

“Dealers that can’t count…”
“Always banning me…”
“I have to explain to dealers how to do their job…”
“Other players are losers, not me.”

Like I said, Jackoff, you are what keeps the lights on…

Well, we all know it's not dealers who keep the lights on. Dealers are just bums who couldn't fit into any other job. You think dealers can recognize winners? Guess what, jerry, we players all know how to recognize you losers. And, what makes you the
biggest losers of all is not only do you have to perform a job where there is an endless supply of other losers waiting to take your place, so you have no pricing power as an employee, but also you have to sit there taking abuse from all the other local
degen vegas players...and in glorious irony you two types of people, dealers and vegas players all form your own echo chamber where you justify your pathetic lives by convincing yourselves the tourists are keeping the lights on. How pathetic. Jerry, I'
ve seen you pretend to know what it's like to be a cop, ludicrously pretend to know about guns, and bullshit us even more about security clearances of which you obviously googled your information as it's only up to date...and not past information...and
in pure vegas degen fashion, you sit there like the typical loser dealer coping and equivocating your pathetic life by trying to somehow characterize tourists as losers. Ya know, the typical tourist probably does lose...a few days a year...but that's
his vacation...and then he goes back to a home in a good neighborhood with good weather, to a job with a fat salary and a happy family along with pensions, 401k's/457bs, and bank accounts...and money to fucking waste. What do you all you loser vegas
degens have? No families....you people are all fucked up...anyone can see that....you all die broke and almost always have worse gambling problems than any tourist...and then you spend your entire adult lives in shit weather, around shit local human
beings, and superficial meaningless vegas acquaintances.....but ya, you have "juice"....what a joke.

.
.
.
.

They've been assholes.....shuffling up doubledecks every single hand.....or flat betting me.....or giving me the tap on the shoulder and outright banning me from BJ. Or, you can even have non-official fuckery with dealers who think they can count....

and you get things like old asian female dealers who'll shuffle up after 1 hand if a bunch of low cards come out on the first deal. Then watch how mouthy employees get if you don't toke them....then you have to explain to them that's exactly WHY you don'
t toke them. Fucking lazy ass losers who can't get a real job...gotta be doing some mindless repetitive job where they don't use their brain and mooch tokes....what losers dealers are.

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On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 11:12:52 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:11:23 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck and

just be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

.

Casinos have never welcomed me to play blackjack.

Oh, Jesus. More Jack Froth-at-the-mouth and his delusions of grandeur…

“Dealers that can’t count…”
“Always banning me…”
“I have to explain to dealers how to do their job…”
“Other players are losers, not me.”

Like I said, Jackoff, you are what keeps the lights on…

.

Well, we all know it's not dealers who keep the lights on.

No. Like I showed, it’s gamblers like you…
.
.

“Dealers are just bums…”
“You think dealers can…”
“Players all know how to recognize you losers….”
“You justify your pathetic lives by convincing yourselves the tourists are keeping the lights on.”
“I've seen you pretend to know what it's like to be a cop…”
“Pretend to know about guns…”
“Security clearances of which you obviously googled your information…” “Loser vegas degens. No families....you people are all fucked up. You all die broke.”

See what I mean? What a poor, pathetic, desperate, loser you are with your delusions of grandeur…

.
.
.
.

And, what makes you the biggest losers of all is not only do you have to perform a job where there is an endless supply of other losers waiting to take your place, so you have no pricing power as an employee, but also you have to sit there taking abuse

from all the other local degen vegas players...and in glorious irony you two types of people, dealers and vegas players all form your own echo chamber How pathetic. Jerry, I've seen you pretend to know what it's like to be a cop, ludicrously, and
bullshit us even more about security clearances of which you obviously googled your information as it's only up to date...and not past information...and in pure vegas degen fashion, you sit there like the typical loser dealer coping and equivocating your
pathetic life by trying to somehow characterize tourists as losers. Ya know, the typical tourist probably does lose...a few days a year...but that's his vacation...and then he goes back to a home in a good neighborhood with good weather, to a job with a
fat salary and a happy family along with pensions, 401k's/457bs, and bank accounts...and money to fucking waste. What do you all you loser vegas degens have? No families....you people are all fucked up...anyone can see that....you all die broke and
almost always have worse gambling problems than any tourist...and then you spend your entire adult lives in shit weather, around shit local human beings, and superficial meaningless vegas acquaintances.....but ya, you have "juice"....what a joke.

.
.
.
.

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On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:12:31 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 11:12:52 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:42:30 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:11:23 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 1:48:11 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 2:05:25 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I've read better blackjack books, but gotta respect any advantage gambling albeit harder to find these days. I'm old enough now, that if I ever go into casinos and play blackjack again, I'll go look for a 3to2 BJ game, probably double deck

and just be blatant..moving my chips up and down with the count....hitting stiffs on negative counts...completely min betting if too many aces come out. Let'em trespass me.

.

Heh. Cosinos welcome you. It's how they keep the lights on..

.

Casinos have never welcomed me to play blackjack.

Oh, Jesus. More Jack Froth-at-the-mouth and his delusions of grandeur…

“Dealers that can’t count…”
“Always banning me…”
“I have to explain to dealers how to do their job…”
“Other players are losers, not me.”

Like I said, Jackoff, you are what keeps the lights on…

.

Well, we all know it's not dealers who keep the lights on.

No. Like I showed, it’s gamblers like you…
.
.

“Dealers are just bums…”
“You think dealers can…”
“Players all know how to recognize you losers….”
“You justify your pathetic lives by convincing yourselves the tourists are keeping the lights on.”
“I've seen you pretend to know what it's like to be a cop…” “Pretend to know about guns…”
“Security clearances of which you obviously googled your information…”
“Loser vegas degens. No families....you people are all fucked up. You all die broke.”

See what I mean? What a poor, pathetic, desperate, loser you are with your delusions of grandeur…

.
.
.
.

And, what makes you the biggest losers of all is not only do you have to perform a job where there is an endless supply of other losers waiting to take your place, so you have no pricing power as an employee, but also you have to sit there taking

abuse from all the other local degen vegas players...and in glorious irony you two types of people, dealers and vegas players all form your own echo chamber How pathetic. Jerry, I've seen you pretend to know what it's like to be a cop, ludicrously, and
bullshit us even more about security clearances of which you obviously googled your information as it's only up to date...and not past information...and in pure vegas degen fashion, you sit there like the typical loser dealer coping and equivocating your
pathetic life by trying to somehow characterize tourists as losers. Ya know, the typical tourist probably does lose...a few days a year...but that's his vacation...and then he goes back to a home in a good neighborhood with good weather, to a job with a
fat salary and a happy family along with pensions, 401k's/457bs, and bank accounts...and money to fucking waste. What do you all you loser vegas degens have? No families....you people are all fucked up...anyone can see that....you all die broke and
almost always have worse gambling problems than any tourist...and then you spend your entire adult lives in shit weather, around shit local human beings, and superficial meaningless vegas acquaintances.....but ya, you have "juice"....what a joke.

.
.
.
.

Coping again, Jerry?

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On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 4:05:25 AM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I guess I must have read something by him but it didn't make an impression. I gave up on blackjack pretty quickly and moved to machines. They were easier and more profitable. Had a nice run on Hexbreaker over the weekend. Nothing life changing but
fun.

C

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:18:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 4:05:25 AM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Huge in Blackjack, a brain in all advantage gambling, this is a big loss. They seem to be coming (or going) faster. Really sorry to hear about this loss.

RIP

I guess I must have read something by him but it didn't make an impression. I gave up on blackjack pretty quickly and moved to machines. They were easier and more profitable. Had a nice run on Hexbreaker over the weekend. Nothing life changing but fun.

C

Blackjack hasn't been worth the effort in years.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 1:18:58 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

I guess I must have read something by him but it didn't make an impression.

I'm really surprised at this statement from you, C. Like I said earlier, Snyder was big in the field. Very intelligent man.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 6:34:15 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

Blackjack hasn't been worth the effort in years.

Disagree with you, Jack. And I commented on Spanish 21 a few days ago. If you missed that, go back and read it.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 9:34:58 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 6:34:15 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

Blackjack hasn't been worth the effort in years.

Disagree with you, Jack. And I commented on Spanish 21 a few days ago. If you missed that, go back and read it.

Oh I saw your Spanish 21 comment. But, my comment is regarding standard BJ in vegas. I'm unfamiliar with Sapnish 21 and not likely to seek it out...I've just been really turned off by the casinos more and more as they make everyone's vacation more
complicated trying to clip even more money from us. The feeling of freedom made vegas feel great years ago when you could just park anywhere without impediments, go get player coupons , and free/cheap food and alcohol and good games. Now it feels
like driving over a bunch of speed bumps with a toll charge after every bump....plus mix in the thug element and there's no reason to ever visit. I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

Hell, I didn't even make it to my whine about poker. All these NL games make poker tables full of manic depressives who take forever between every decision and think they have a right to make everyone shut up for 5min until they can decide whether or
not to call a $15 bet. Life is too short to put up with this insanity.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

Ya, and I have a CCW and can easily defend myself....but how safe do you even feel these days defending yourself when there are Democrat Soros funded DA's which will prosecute you just because you used a gun to rightfully defend yourself. You may save
your own life, and you probably won't be found guilty if you defend yourself correctly, but you'll still get bankrupted hiring lawyers. Look at Kyle Rittenhouse....a minor child defending himself against convicted felon adult pedophiles trying to kill
him and his defense cost millions.

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On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control, it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control, it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be dealt by a mechanic. We recognize the normal dealer rotation and will immediately be suspicious if there is an unexpected tap on the dealers shoulder,
especially when it's a dealer we don't recognize and/or the type of dealer we don't like. There are specific dealers I don't like playing against so I'll move around between a few. And dealers run their yap, too. I had a frontier dealer tell me when
they sent in a Cooler to come act all depressed and destroy the mood at the table. I didn't sit there fighting it....I left and used my food comp. And, I remember the time of shills. They aren't allowed to bet or call you idiot...they are min wagers
getting free drunks to set there and fill a table. And, ya, I've seen dealers roll the deck before and try to deal seconds to players who weren't toking...easy to do when it's a Hi-Lo game and they think they know when their nemesis is raising on a low
draw....no problem at all to just switch up and go for high only hands, better on any flopped 2 low cards and induce the dealer to run off two high cards. But, dealers rotate, too. I wonder how many blonde female "mechanics" they can find to deal.

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control,

it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills
for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

.

Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be
dealt by a mechanic.

Mechanics didn’t deal counters; they didn’t have to.

We recognize the normal dealer rotation..

“We…”

Ya, "We", idiot. Being a counter you quickly notice other counters. Sometimes you get into conversations and get to know each other a bit. Sometimes people who aren't counters at all even recognize you are a counter and start bugging you to make a
number of decisions for them.

Yes we were, idiot… (JFC! This idiot telling ME about my own fucking job?)

like the simpleton job of a dealer is some sort of mystery to poker players. I've spent thousands of hours on poker tables watching everything about the dealers. I got news for you jackass, while you are busy dealing a game, players like me are bored
as hell waiting for a hand and we watch what's going on at the table. We can probably tell you a lot of things about yourself and your job you don't even realize, jackwagon.

.
.

they are min wagers getting free drunks to set there and fill a table. And, ya, I've seen dealers roll the deck before and try to deal seconds to players who weren't toking...easy to do when it's a Hi-Lo game and they think they know when their

nemesis is raising on a low draw....no problem at all to just switch up and go for high only hands, better on any flopped 2 low cards and induce the dealer to run off two high cards. But, dealers rotate, too. I wonder how many blonde female "mechanics"
they can find to deal.

.

What the fuck world does this delusional idiot live in?

It's called "reality". I know you moron democrats never heard of it, but there are some people in the world who just go by the evidence and facts in life. And, when you say delusional....who the fuck are you fooling? Every poker player on earth knows
an endless line of poker dealers who are all failed delusional poker players who thought they'd go "pro". Even you admit your delusion when you try to assert to us this magical "juice" you think you had.

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

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"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control,

it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills
for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

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Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be
dealt by a mechanic.

Mechanics didn’t deal counters; they didn’t have to.

We recognize the normal dealer rotation..

“We…”

**** LOL! ****
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More psychotic delusions of grandeur laughed at….
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and will immediately be suspicious if there is an unexpected tap on the dealers shoulder, especially when it's a dealer we don't recognize and/or the type of dealer we don't like. There are specific dealers I don't like playing against so I'll move

around between a few. And dealers run their yap, too. I had a frontier dealer tell me when they sent in a Cooler to come act all depressed and destroy the mood at the table. I didn't sit there fighting it....
I left and used my food comp. And, I remember the time of shills. They aren't allowed to bet or call you idiot...
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Yes we were, idiot… (JFC! This idiot telling ME about my own fucking job?)
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they are min wagers getting free drunks to set there and fill a table. And, ya, I've seen dealers roll the deck before and try to deal seconds to players who weren't toking...easy to do when it's a Hi-Lo game and they think they know when their nemesis

is raising on a low draw....no problem at all to just switch up and go for high only hands, better on any flopped 2 low cards and induce the dealer to run off two high cards. But, dealers rotate, too. I wonder how many blonde female "mechanics" they can
find to deal.
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What the fuck world does this delusional idiot live in?

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:14:39 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control,

it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills
for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

.

Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be
dealt by a mechanic.

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Mechanics didn’t deal counters; they didn’t have to.

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**** Concession accepted ****
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We recognize the normal dealer rotation..

“We…”

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Ya, "We", idiot. Being a counter you quickly notice other counters. Sometimes you get into conversations and get to know each other a bit. Sometimes people who aren't counters at all even recognize you are a counter and start bugging you to make a

number of decisions for them.
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LOL @ “bugging you to make decisions for them.”
More delusions of grandeur…..
JFC! Get some fucking help…..
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Yes we were, idiot… (JFC! This idiot telling ME about my own fucking job?)

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like the simpleton job of a dealer is some sort of mystery to poker players. I've spent thousands of hours on poker tables watching everything about the dealers. I got news for you jackass, while you are busy dealing a game, players like me are bored

as hell waiting for a hand and we watch what's going on at the table. We can probably tell you a lot of things about yourself and your job you don't even realize, jackwagon.

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they are min wagers getting free drunks to set there and fill a table. And, ya, I've seen dealers roll the deck before and try to deal seconds to players who weren't toking...easy to do when it's a Hi-Lo game and they think they know when their

nemesis is raising on a low draw....no problem at all to just switch up and go for high only hands, better on any flopped 2 low cards and induce the dealer to run off two high cards. But, dealers rotate, too. I wonder how many blonde female "mechanics"
they can find to deal.

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What the fuck world does this delusional idiot live in?

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It's called "reality".

LOL! No, it’s not…

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I know you moron democrats never heard of it, but there are some people in the world who just go by the evidence and facts in life.

See?

And, when you say delusional....who the fuck are you fooling? Every poker player on earth knows an endless line of poker dealers who are all failed delusional poker players who thought they'd go "pro". Even you admit your delusion when you try to

assert to us this magical "juice" you think you had.
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Is that more than enough, Brian?

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:14:39 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control,

it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills
for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

.

Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be
dealt by a mechanic.

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Mechanics didn’t deal counters; they didn’t have to.

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**** Concession accepted ****

I didn't concede shit because I was making two separate comments that I thought were being confused with each other....and that's what you did talking about BJ mechanics in the 60s. And, you got your facts wrong. The casinos were totally oblivious to
counters in the 60's, dumbass...that's why they didn't use mechanics. My mechanics comment is more modern and there has been plenty of testimony about mechanics in times since, though I don't believe mechanics are needed now that they have computers
that can identify counters and also they make the games impossible to beat by the constant shufflers or the 6to5 games. These days I think the closest you can come to beating BJ in vegas is a 3to2 double deck game and there aren't many left. I
also think the constant shuffler games can be beaten for a small amount because you can hit/stand/split/double based on the real count and I doubt those games are sweated very much at all. I have no comment on shoes as I hate having to keep running
counts that long and in shoes, you have to vary your bets more because the odds seem to be worse....couldn't imagine a worse fate than some floor sweating your shoe game and backing you off after the computer tells him the shoe just turned positive after
you've been sitting there counting it forever.

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We recognize the normal dealer rotation..

“We…”

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Ya, "We", idiot. Being a counter you quickly notice other counters. Sometimes you get into conversations and get to know each other a bit. Sometimes people who aren't counters at all even recognize you are a counter and start bugging you to make a

number of decisions for them.

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LOL @ “bugging you to make decisions for them.”
More delusions of grandeur…..

Delusions my ass, that's happened many times..sorry you are jealous.

Yes we were, idiot… (JFC! This idiot telling ME about my own fucking job?)

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like the simpleton job of a dealer is some sort of mystery to poker players. I've spent thousands of hours on poker tables watching everything about the dealers. I got news for you jackass, while you are busy dealing a game, players like me are bored

as hell waiting for a hand and we watch what's going on at the table. We can probably tell you a lot of things about yourself and your job you don't even realize, jackwagon.

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On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 5:19:53 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:14:39 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 4:04:45 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 10:27:43 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

I'd feel 1000x safer if the Mob took over.

You can say that again.

.

"Safer?" LOL. I worked at the Golden Nugget Poker Room in the 60's. With the mob in control,

it was even easier to take the 'live ones.' We had mechanics for Blackjack and tables full of shills
for poker. Nobody beat the house. Nobody.

.

Well, I never played in the 60's, but I do know any experienced counter isn't stupid enough to be
dealt by a mechanic.

.

Mechanics didn’t deal counters; they didn’t have to.

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**** Concession accepted ****

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I didn't concede shit because I was making two separate comments that I thought were being confused..

LOL @ "confused." That's all you are you ignorant ass...
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....you got your facts wrong....
...they didn't use mechanics...
... My mechanics comment is more modern...
...I don't believe mechanics are needed now...
... I also think the constant shuffler games can be beaten...
... I doubt those games are sweated very much at all...
...I have no comment on shoes ...
... the odds seem to be worse...

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As I've shown .... > > More delusions of grandeur…..
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You're just a fucking moron.....
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with each other....and that's what you did talking about BJ mechanics in the 60s. And, you got your facts wrong. The casinos were totally oblivious to counters in the 60's, dumbass...that's why they didn't use mechanics. My mechanics comment is more
modern and there has been plenty of testimony about mechanics in times since, though I don't believe mechanics are needed now that they have computers that can identify counters and also they make the games impossible to beat by the constant shufflers or
the 6to5 games. These days I think the closest you can come to beating BJ in vegas is a 3to2 double deck game and there aren't many left. I also think the constant shuffler games can be beaten for a small amount because you can hit/stand/split/double
based on the real count and I doubt those games are sweated very much at all. I have no comment on shoes as I hate having to keep running counts that long and in shoes, you have to vary your bets more because the odds seem to be worse....couldn't imagine
a worse fate than some floor sweating your shoe game and backing you off after the computer tells him the shoe just turned positive after you've been sitting there counting it forever.

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We recognize the normal dealer rotation..

“We…”

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Ya, "We", idiot. Being a counter you quickly notice other counters. Sometimes you get into conversations and get to know each other a bit. Sometimes people who aren't counters at all even recognize you are a counter and start bugging you to make a

number of decisions for them.

.

LOL @ “bugging you to make decisions for them.”
More delusions of grandeur…..

Delusions my ass, that's happened many times..sorry you are jealous.

Yes we were, idiot… (JFC! This idiot telling ME about my own fucking job?)

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like the simpleton job of a dealer is some sort of mystery to poker players. I've spent thousands of hours on poker tables watching everything about the dealers. I got news for you jackass, while you are busy dealing a game, players like me are

bored as hell waiting for a hand and we watch what's going on at the table. We can probably tell you a lot of things about yourself and your job you don't even realize, jackwagon.

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