On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 3:17:26 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.

What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?

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Rich

99% of them are probably married women with a fertility issue in the relationship.

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Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.

What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?


--
Rich

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On June 5, risky biz wrote:

Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.
What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?

99% of them are probably married women with a fertility issue in the relationship.

That's a reasonable guess, and probably right.

Does the proud mom and dad ever tell the kid? Do the bankers
have confidentiality rules?

--
Rich

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On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:46:09 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

On June 5, risky biz wrote:

Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.
What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?

99% of them are probably married women with a fertility issue in the relationship.

That's a reasonable guess, and probably right.

Does the proud mom and dad ever tell the kid? Do the bankers
have confidentiality rules?

--
Rich

There are of course confidentiality rules, but they are increasingly meaningless these days if the kid gets a DNA test on Ancestry, 23andMe, etc, because even if fhe donor doesn't get a DNA test himself, there are enough of anyone's relatives on DNA
sites to figure out who the father is. I heard rumors growing up of sisters of my grandmother giving away babies back in the day.....sure as shit, they are showing up as relatives on DNA trying to figure out who their parents are.

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On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:46:09 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

On June 5, risky biz wrote:

Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.
What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?

99% of them are probably married women with a fertility issue in the relationship.

That's a reasonable guess, and probably right.

Does the proud mom and dad ever tell the kid? Do the bankers
have confidentiality rules?

As last I heard they resist government control or oversite. I remember a case of a doctor of one of those clinics simply donating his own sperm, rather than pay others.

I just asked AI to find it:

AI:

Yes, there have been cases where fertility clinic doctors have used their own sperm to impregnate patients without their knowledge or consent. One notable example is the case of Dr. Donald Cline, an Indiana fertility doctor.

In 2017, Dr. Cline pleaded guilty to two felony obstruction of justice charges after it was discovered that he had used his own sperm to father multiple children while working at a fertility clinic in Indianapolis. The investigation began when several
individuals who had been conceived through artificial insemination at Dr. Cline's clinic took DNA tests and discovered that they were genetically related to each other, and to Dr. Cline himself.

Dr. Cline admitted to using his own sperm around 50 times between the 1970s and 1980s. He claimed that he had been trying to help couples who were struggling with infertility and saw it as a solution at the time. However, his actions were unethical and
violated professional standards.

The case received significant media attention and sparked a broader discussion about the need for regulations and oversight in the fertility industry to prevent such abuses from occurring in the future.
________
.

I don't know is any regulation or oversite have been put in place. But of course our wingnuts are against 'government regulations.'

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Rich

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~ On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:53:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

~ There are of course confidentiality rules, but they are increasingly meaningless these days if the kid gets a DNA test on Ancestry, 23andMe, etc, because even if fhe donor doesn't get a DNA test himself, there are enough of anyone's relatives on DNA
sites to figure out who the father is. I heard rumors growing up of sisters of my grandmother giving away babies back in the day.....sure as shit, they are showing up as relatives on DNA trying to figure out who their parents are.


We can use DNA to figure out who qave you to RGP?

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On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 3:25:49 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:46:09 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

On June 5, risky biz wrote:

Sperm banks are a viable business. Which means women
are using their services. I don't know any personally, but
it must be frequent.
What do they say, when Junior asks, "Mama, where's
daddy?" Do they send the 'donor' a Father's Day card
each year?

99% of them are probably married women with a fertility issue in the relationship.

That's a reasonable guess, and probably right.

Does the proud mom and dad ever tell the kid? Do the bankers
have confidentiality rules?

As last I heard they resist government control or oversite. I remember a case of a doctor of one of those clinics simply donating his own sperm, rather than pay others.

I just asked AI to find it:

AI:

Yes, there have been cases where fertility clinic doctors have used their own sperm to impregnate patients without their knowledge or consent. One notable example is the case of Dr. Donald Cline, an Indiana fertility doctor.

In 2017, Dr. Cline pleaded guilty to two felony obstruction of justice charges after it was discovered that he had used his own sperm to father multiple children while working at a fertility clinic in Indianapolis. The investigation began when several

individuals who had been conceived through artificial insemination at Dr. Cline's clinic took DNA tests and discovered that they were genetically related to each other, and to Dr. Cline himself.

Dr. Cline admitted to using his own sperm around 50 times between the 1970s and 1980s. He claimed that he had been trying to help couples who were struggling with infertility and saw it as a solution at the time. However, his actions were unethical and

violated professional standards.

The case received significant media attention and sparked a broader discussion about the need for regulations and oversight in the fertility industry to prevent such abuses from occurring in the future.
________
.

I don't know is any regulation or oversite have been put in place. But of course our wingnuts are against 'government regulations.'

--
Rich

I'll bet I've donated more sperm than that guy. From now on my preferred pronoun is 'Doctor'.

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On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 11:49:30 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:

~ On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:53:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

~ There are of course confidentiality rules, but they are increasingly meaningless these days if the kid gets a DNA test on Ancestry, 23andMe, etc, because even if fhe donor doesn't get a DNA test himself, there are enough of anyone's relatives on DNA

sites to figure out who the father is. I heard rumors growing up of sisters of my grandmother giving away babies back in the day.....sure as shit, they are showing up as relatives on DNA trying to figure out who their parents are.

We can use DNA to figure out who qave you to RGP?

I know what your mom would be giving me if she was in RGP.

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On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:59:48 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 11:49:30 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:

~ On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:53:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

~ There are of course confidentiality rules, but they are increasingly meaningless these days if the kid gets a DNA test on Ancestry, 23andMe, etc, because even if fhe donor doesn't get a DNA test himself, there are enough of anyone's relatives on

DNA sites to figure out who the father is. I heard rumors growing up of sisters of my grandmother giving away babies back in the day.....sure as shit, they are showing up as relatives on DNA trying to figure out who their parents are.

We can use DNA to figure out who qave you to RGP?

~ I know what your mom would be giving me if she was in RGP.



Maverick is a handsome devil of an expert poker player with no sense of humor.

Hmmm. That all doesn't seem to fit together right.

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