• A totalitarian madhouse

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 22 10:18:08 2023
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that, has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its monopoly on power, hide its intentions, and spread
    falsehoods. Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened, arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive surveillance,
    intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB repression are hardly
    things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The motivations of
    those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west after
    concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he went.
    He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or the
    internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him. That is,
    he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon May 22 12:26:30 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.

    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,

    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .


    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive surveillance,
    intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB repression are hardly
    things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The motivations
    of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west after
    concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive system.'


    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
    went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or
    the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him. That
    is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon May 22 14:35:35 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.
    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
    surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB
    repression are hardly things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The motivations
    of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
    after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive
    system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
    went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or
    the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him. That
    is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps

    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon May 22 14:49:58 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.
    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
    surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB
    repression are hardly things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
    motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
    after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive
    system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
    went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or
    the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him. That
    is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.
    Why the hell would you worry about something like that? I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest place on earth to exist.

    C

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Mon May 22 15:52:45 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.
    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
    surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB
    repression are hardly things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
    motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
    after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive
    system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever
    he went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone
    or the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him.
    That is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.
    .

    Why the hell would you worry about something like that?

    Because Trump just tried it? Hello?
    .

    I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest
    place on earth to exist.

    C

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon May 22 15:50:56 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:35:39 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.
    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
    surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB
    repression are hardly things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
    motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
    after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive
    system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
    went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or
    the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people close to him. That
    is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
    .
    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.
    .

    Trump tried his best. And I believe he's about to be tired for it.

    And we still have MAGA maggot here that will keep voting for it, even at the cost of their Social Security and Medicare.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon May 22 17:43:34 2023
    ~ On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:35:39 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps

    ~ And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.


    The description of one of those groups above seems to imply they are 'right-wing'. I'm not sure what that even means in Russia.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Mon May 22 17:39:35 2023
    ~ On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.

    ~ Why the hell would you worry about something like that? I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest place on earth to exist.

    C


    He travels in an armored train just like the maximum leader in NK. I saw one mention that in some locations he had private rail lines built for his use only.

    I think that dissident Navalny returned to Russia voluntarily. If he did that makes him a nut, too. He was immediately imprisoned and suspectedly poisoned with a non-lethal dose.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu May 25 13:03:28 2023
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 5:52:48 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,
    has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
    monopoly on power,
    .

    Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
    .

    hide its intentions,

    Yea, Trump..


    and spread falsehoods.

    Trump.
    Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
    "Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...

    This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    arrested, or killed.

    Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
    surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB
    repression are hardly things of the past.'

    'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
    motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.

    In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the
    west after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and
    oppressive system.'

    'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin
    wherever he went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a
    mobile phone or the internet, insists that those who will be in the same room submit to a two-week quarantine, and avoids airplanes, usually traveling on an armored train. According to Karakulov, “All the information he receives is only from people
    close to him. That is, he lives in a kind of information vacuum…He is pathologically afraid for his life. He has surrounded himself with an impenetrable barrier of quarantine and a lack of any information from the internet.”
    https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/

    'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)

    Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion

    Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
    And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.
    .

    Why the hell would you worry about something like that?
    Because Trump just tried it? Hello?
    .
    I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest
    place on earth to exist.

    C
    Take another run at it. I know you can jump the sarchasm.

    C

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Thu May 25 15:07:19 2023
    ~ On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 1:03:32 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:

    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 5:52:48 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:


    Why the hell would you worry about something like that?


    Because Trump just tried it? Hello?


    Take another run at it. I know you can jump the sarchasm.

    C


    Do the jump with your Summerlin-cycle, Jerry.

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