'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
hide its intentions,
and spread falsehoods.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive surveillance,intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGB repression are hardly
'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The motivationsof those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.
In Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west afterconcluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressive system.'
'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever hewent. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or
https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
.
hide its intentions,
Yea, Trump..
surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGBand spread falsehoods.
Trump.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,"Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...
This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
arrested, or killed.
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The motivations
after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressiveIn Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
.
hide its intentions,
Yea, Trump..
surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGBand spread falsehoods.
Trump.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,"Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...
This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
arrested, or killed.
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressiveIn Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
Why the hell would you worry about something like that? I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest place on earth to exist.https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
.
hide its intentions,
Yea, Trump..
surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGBand spread falsehoods.
Trump.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,"Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...
This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
arrested, or killed.
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressiveIn Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
he went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever
.https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
Why the hell would you worry about something like that?
I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest
place on earth to exist.
C
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
.
hide its intentions,
Yea, Trump..
surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGBand spread falsehoods.
Trump.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,"Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...
This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
arrested, or killed.
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, and oppressiveIn Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the west
went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a mobile phone or'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin wherever he
.https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people..
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.
C
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:26:34 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 10:18:12 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
'Understanding Putin’s Russia, like Russia of the Communist Commissars and the Tsars before that,.
has always been difficult for outsiders. The Kremlin invests substantial state resources to protect its
monopoly on power,
Well, that's kinda what Trump did, too.
.
hide its intentions,
Yea, Trump..
surveillance, intimidation and disinformation. The arrest of Wall Street Journal journalist Evan Gershkovich and the flood of false information pumped into western (and Russian) media streams make clear that the days of Potemkin villages and KGBand spread falsehoods.
Trump.
Russian citizens who have challenged the Kremlin’s narratives have been threatened,"Hillary! Lock her up!" Yea, Trump again...
This isn't " 'Understanding Putin’s Russia," as much understanding fascists...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
arrested, or killed.
Recently, Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza received 25 years in prison for criticizing the regime (serial killers and mass murderers in Russia receive more moderate sentences). Foreign diplomats and journalists in Moscow face oppressive
motivations of those who cooperate secretly with the CIA are as varied as there are people. Sources may seek adventure, money, help for their families, revenge against their bosses or the ego gratification that comes with assisting a superpower.'The American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) recruits spies and sources around the world, to gain access to specific programs and groups that are not accessible by academics, journalists, diplomats or collection by technical means. The
west after concluding that their system is evil and must be destroyed. They usually express love for their culture and homeland, but are committed to smashing the leadership and secret security services that underpin their corrupt, murderous, andIn Russia it is different. The motivation and messages from Russian sources over the years have shown an uncanny similarity and consistency not found in other groups. That is, secret Russian sources almost always make the choice to help the
wherever he went. He traveled with Putin on over 180 trips abroad. During a recent interview, Karakulov commented that, “Our President has become a war criminal.” He described Putin as isolated and paranoid. He reported that Putin doesn’t use a'In recent months, Gleb Karakulov fled while on a business trip in Kazakhstan. Karakulov was a Captain in the Kremlin’s Federal Protection Service. His unit was responsible for protecting and setting up secure communications for Putin
Take another run at it. I know you can jump the sarchasm.https://time.com/6281663/russia-vladimir-putin-defectors/
'The National Republican Army is an alleged underground partisan group of Russians inside Russia working towards the violent overthrow of the Putin government.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Army_(Russia)
Freedom of Russia Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Russia_Legion
.And I worry about an attempted takeover in the US by such people.Russian Volunteer Corps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps
Why the hell would you worry about something like that?Because Trump just tried it? Hello?
.
I've been reading about Putin's Russia lately and it is beginning to rival North Korea as scariest
place on earth to exist.
C
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 5:52:48 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 2:50:01 PM UTC-7, C Mayhem wrote:
Why the hell would you worry about something like that?
Because Trump just tried it? Hello?
Take another run at it. I know you can jump the sarchasm.
C
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