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    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 16:18:04 2023
    Please list ideas for barter items.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Mar 20 17:54:18 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Please list ideas for barter items.

    You could probably trade $2000 (US) for mental health counselling.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Mar 20 18:44:07 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.

    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Mar 20 20:30:45 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    You could probably trade $2000 (US) for mental health counselling.


    So funny I forgot to laugh. What a jackass you are.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Mar 20 20:36:41 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...


    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Mar 20 21:36:22 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:30:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    You could probably trade $2000 (US) for mental health counselling.
    So funny I forgot to laugh. What a jackass you are.

    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Mar 20 21:47:16 2023
    ~ On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.

    ~ Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...


    They aren't working that well for the Russian army.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Mar 20 21:41:21 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:36:44 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?

    Yes, desperate addicts make the best customers in a lawless Mad Max scenario. Don't forget to prep the sign the end of your driveway so they know where to go.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 21 03:08:15 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:41:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Yes, desperate addicts make the best customers in a lawless Mad Max scenario. Don't forget to prep the sign the end of your driveway so they know where to go.


    Go vacation in Mexico, mutherfucker. Take your wife with you. You can protect her against the cartels, tough guy. They would be afraid of you.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 21 03:13:40 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.


    It's not the end of the world, fool. But it's the end of the Dollar as we know it. If you don't want to barter, then go ahead and use the government's digital money. You don't mind them knowing everything you buy and sell, that's your business.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 21 02:17:17 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.


    Mind your own business, bitch.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 07:23:40 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:13:44 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.
    It's not the end of the world, fool. But it's the end of the Dollar as we know it. If you don't want to barter, then go ahead and use the government's digital money. You don't mind them knowing everything you buy and sell, that's your business.

    "Them" <cue scary music>. LOL I honestly don't remember the last time I paid cash for anything. It's been years. You are suffering from paranoid delusions. Nobody gives a shit how much Absorbine Jr. or horse paste you buy.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 21 08:21:13 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 7:23:44 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:


    Nobody gives a shit how much Absorbine Jr. or horse paste you buy.


    You do, fuckface.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 08:54:12 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.

    We've done this before.

    Ammo
    Batteries
    Water filters. Water is the number one priority


    Most important is a way to defend your inventory, sell a guy some ammo, and well you know...

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 21 09:12:38 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 8:54:16 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:


    We've done this before.

    Ammo
    Batteries
    Water filters. Water is the number one priority


    Most important is a way to defend your inventory, sell a guy some ammo, and well you know...


    You're right, Brian, I do remember doing this before. But now it's getting more real. Look up the plan for FedNow in July. They are going to do this. And it's a precursor toward the CBDC. These people are dead serious. And we're looking at more and
    more bank failures. The country is crumbling.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 11:46:44 2023
    On 3/21/2023 11:12 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 8:54:16 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:


    We've done this before.

    Ammo
    Batteries
    Water filters. Water is the number one priority


    Most important is a way to defend your inventory, sell a guy some ammo, and well you know...


    You're right, Brian, I do remember doing this before. But now it's getting more real. Look up the plan for FedNow in July. They are going to do this. And it's a precursor toward the CBDC. These people are dead serious. And we're looking at more
    and more bank failures. The country is crumbling.

    Here is but one "warning" about CBDCs ...

    https://studentsforliberty.org/blog/cbdcs-a-cause-for-concern/?gclid=CjwKCAjwq-WgBhBMEiwAzKSH6PqqzXtoLWdcUMCUAxHiadshF0XGIpxa7BFfd0VlXIUJfWkMOSazqBoCMAMQAvD_BwE

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Mar 21 09:56:58 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:47:19 AM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    ~ Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...


    They aren't working that well for the Russian army.

    They are short of most of those. There are reports of some of the militia groups charging into battle with pointed sticks.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 09:58:16 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?

    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Mar 21 11:57:38 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.

    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans
    is no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 12:06:56 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.

    I knew an old German guy in San Francisco who was nine years old immediately after Germany had been defeated in 1945. He bought powdered milk as cheap as he could and then wandered around the streets selling it for as high a price as he could get. That's
    how he helped his family survive.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 21 13:00:25 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:


    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans is
    no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t


    What is Mad Max? A total economic collapse and collapse of our banks, is that Mad Max? The BRICs nations get together and decide they don't need our US Dollar anymore, and send them all back to us, is that Mad Max? If China attacks Taiwan and we have
    to step in, is that Mad Max? If our supply of antibiotics is cut off, is that Mad Max? What is Mad Max, that is so unlikely as to not prepare for it?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 21 13:57:28 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have >postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans is
    no way to live.

    Exactly, yet they waste the life they do have (and sometimes all their resources) fretting and preparing for a hopeless eventuality that is massively unlikely to happen in their lifetimes. It's sad. I've been hearing "the end is near" from these doomsday
    nuts my entire life.

    On a more positive note, today's Canadian inflation report was down to 5.2% (and that's with essentially zero gold reserves).

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 21 16:32:59 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:


    On a more positive note, today's Canadian inflation report was down to 5.2% (and that's with essentially zero gold reserves).


    You're stupid. What happens when all those dollars come back home? A flood of them. And no one wants them. BRICS nations will be the world's reserve currency. The Dollar will be worthless. Like you.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Mar 21 16:46:49 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 4:33:03 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:


    On a more positive note, today's Canadian inflation report was down to 5.2% (and that's with essentially zero gold reserves).
    You're stupid. What happens when all those dollars come back home? A flood of them. And no one wants them. BRICS nations will be the world's reserve currency. The Dollar will be worthless. Like you.

    You are being lied to.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Mar 21 19:00:38 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:29:04 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans
    is no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t
    I have that already, plus 7 acres of woods.

    To be precise, I have an 18kW system, with Tesla batteries good for 29 kWh

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 21 18:29:00 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans is
    no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t

    I have that already, plus 7 acres of woods.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 05:58:03 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Please list ideas for barter items.

    Younger women can always trade sex....I've seen poker players try to trade a roll with their girlfriend for a buy-in.
    Any medication, not just antibiotics...plenty of people need maintenance meds...and re antibiotics, you need various types...plus medical supplies of all sorts.
    Canned/dry food and canned/bottled drink.
    Gold/Silver, etc,
    Tons of ammo...can never have enough ammo....guns, too, because they break and wear out and you need backups, plus replacement parts and tools to work with AR type weapons.
    New Clothes, Shoes, blankets, cleaning/sterilization supplies,
    Gasoline, etc...kerosene is just diesel....
    Pump and hose to siphon tanks and gas stations...and jerry cans, whatever you can get ahold of....HarborFreight is a good place. Get the metal ones if you can.
    List goes on....and on...we take many things for granted.

    Fact is in civil war or nuclear war, most everyone is going to starve and starve pretty quickly. Just look how quickly shelves clear if people think a hurricane is coming....multiple that times a million....there will be no delivery trucks coming to
    restock either. Have enough food to survive 3- 6months and you can probably outlast most people if you can defend yourself. I also keep multiple fire extinguishers for fire....or if they try to burn me out.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to jack roth on Wed Mar 22 06:14:43 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:02:47 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:30:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    You could probably trade $2000 (US) for mental health counselling.
    So funny I forgot to laugh. What a jackass you are.
    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.
    You are flat out wrong here and that was proven in 2020. I'm not a prepper, but I keep months of any supply I might need in case of natural disasters, etc....Ex-wife would laugh at me having a couple cases of toilet paper....until 2020 came and she
    couldn't get toilet paper....oh, and the shelves were cleaned bare everywhere...so she had no food either. All those supplies worked out perfectly so I didn't have to leave my house putting myself at risk of the China Virus and also to help my ex and
    kids survive.
    Now, Bill, if you are someone who has 20 years worth of shit, then ya, maybe you are a lunatic.

    I'm not talking about that kind of prepping. I am talking about the teotwawki nuts who are obsessed with it. It takes over their lives and that's all they think about, like Popinjay. He has been obsessing about it for decades, at least. I am sure you
    have seen others on TV. I have the same preparations as you for natural disasters and the like. That much is common sense.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Mar 22 06:02:43 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:30:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:54:22 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    You could probably trade $2000 (US) for mental health counselling.
    So funny I forgot to laugh. What a jackass you are.
    Funny, I thought the jackass was the person wanting to stock up on items for bartering so he can he can survive the end of the world as we know it. Stop living with these ridiculous fears. You'll be much happier.

    You are flat out wrong here and that was proven in 2020. I'm not a prepper, but I keep months of any supply I might need in case of natural disasters, etc....Ex-wife would laugh at me having a couple cases of toilet paper....until 2020 came and she
    couldn't get toilet paper....oh, and the shelves were cleaned bare everywhere...so she had no food either. All those supplies worked out perfectly so I didn't have to leave my house putting myself at risk of the China Virus and also to help my ex and
    kids survive.
    Now, Bill, if you are someone who has 20 years worth of shit, then ya, maybe you are a lunatic.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Mar 22 08:36:11 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    I knew an old German guy in San Francisco who was nine years old immediately after Germany had been defeated in 1945. He bought powdered milk as cheap as he could and then wandered around the streets selling it for as high a price as he could get. That'
    s how he helped his family survive.

    Sounds like my mother. She and a bunch of refugees waded out to a sunken ship in Hannover Harbour to strip it clean. She ended up with a hundred-pound bale of tobacco.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Mar 22 08:50:22 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:14:46 AM UTC-7, BillB wrote:

    I'm not talking about that kind of prepping. I am talking about the teotwawki nuts who are obsessed with it. It takes over their lives and that's all they think about, like Popinjay. He has been obsessing about it for decades, at least. I am sure you
    have seen others on TV. I have the same preparations as you for natural disasters and the like. That much is common sense.


    Why don't you just cry about it, you little bitch.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Mar 22 13:12:55 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:00:41 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:29:04 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned beans
    is no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t
    I have that already, plus 7 acres of woods.
    To be precise, I have an 18kW system, with Tesla batteries good for 29 kWh


    That's a bit more than I had in mind but it sounds badass

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Wed Mar 22 13:53:46 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:12:58 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:00:41 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:29:04 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned
    beans is no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t
    I have that already, plus 7 acres of woods.
    To be precise, I have an 18kW system, with Tesla batteries good for 29 kWh
    That's a bit more than I had in mind but it sounds badass

    Just putting our money where our mouths are.

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  • From Alim Nassor@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Mar 24 12:20:33 2023
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 3:53:49 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:12:58 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:00:41 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:29:04 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-4, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:36:44 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:44:10 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:18:07 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Please list ideas for barter items.
    Ammunition, vodka, antibiotics, pain killers,...
    Ammunition is a good one. Not sure about what laws apply. Vodka, or other bottles of booze is a good one. Maybe those small bottles (pints?), certainly going to be demand for this. Cigarettes come to my mind. People are going to smoke.

    So the idea would be to start stocking up on these items now. As long as they don't expire, how can you go wrong?
    Add bleach for sterilization. Not too many smoke any more. Seeds might work.
    Good idea, I read 2 drops of bleach per liter will sanitize water. Also helps to be able to filter it.

    I am no prepper, I have to laugh at most of them, unless you have land that has water, the ability to grow food, and be able to protect it, then what... you have postponed it all for a couple of weeks at best. Living in the dark eating canned
    beans is no way to live. I care about this as preparation for storms and long power outages etc, not Mad Max.

    I have been looking at solar battery chargers. A few hundred bucks and some rechargeable batteries would be handy.
    Something like this. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6W1D9L1/ref=emc_b_5_t
    I have that already, plus 7 acres of woods.
    To be precise, I have an 18kW system, with Tesla batteries good for 29 kWh
    That's a bit more than I had in mind but it sounds badass
    Just putting our money where our mouths are.


    LOL. Miss me yet? My little prep is looking better. Also glad I built a cabin in the hills of Oklahoma. Word to the wise, don't barter ammunition except to those you know and trust.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Alim Nassor on Fri Mar 24 16:04:10 2023
    On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 12:20:36 PM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:

    LOL. Miss me yet? My little prep is looking better. Also glad I built a cabin in the hills of Oklahoma. Word to the wise, don't barter ammunition except to those you know and trust.


    Hi Alim. Good to see you.

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