Google:
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Over 33 million hits
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hitsWill someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hitsWill someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:Will someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hitsWill someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hitsWill someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> Google:
Will someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out. California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.
On 3/17/2023 11:14 AM, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> Google:
Will someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out. California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.You must have heard that on FOX News ... Jerry will be here in a moment.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hitsWill someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
.And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out.
California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:.
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote: >>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:46:00 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ He's been pretty quiet lately on the economic front. I haven't seen any of the usual trolling. Did it take a real bank run to finally shut him up?~ On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> Google:
Will someone now publish their previously compiled data of his real name, name of his personal partner, residence address, etc.?
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
Oh, wait .. Blabber was the only one who compiled records like that.
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
Wrong. This is bank investors (gamblers) wanting to keep Trump's (and the rich GQP) rules so Biden
and Democrat won't cancel Trump's money-grubbing relaxation of the rules and the gambling can continue.
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The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out.
We all do. Just like 2006, what's the alternative?
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California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.
We all do. Just like 2006, what's the alternative?
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 8:35:12 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
And now that Biden is trying to reverse that, Republicans are trying to block it.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
.And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
Wrong. This is bank investors (gamblers) wanting to keep Trump's (and the rich GQP) rules so Biden
and Democrat won't cancel Trump's money-grubbing relaxation of the rules and the gambling can continue.
The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out.
We all do. Just like 2006, what's the alternative?
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California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.
~ On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:39:44 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 8:35:12 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
~ Because Trump and team lowered the banking rules so their pals could gamble.
Is the 'team' you're referring to the 36%+ of Democratic Senators who voted FOR the legislation that Trump signed?
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And now that Biden is trying to reverse that, Republicans are trying to block it.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:56:58 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:35:12 PM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:
.And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
Wrong. This is bank investors (gamblers) wanting to keep Trump's (and the rich GQP) rules so Biden
and Democrat won't cancel Trump's money-grubbing relaxation of the rules and the gambling can continue.
Are the 'money-grubbers' you're referring to the 36%+ of Democratic Senators who voted FOR the legislation that Trump signed?
The best part, Gavin Newsome lobbied for the bail out.
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We all do. Just like 2006, what's the alternative?
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California law prohibits politicians from doing just that if they are involved financially. Well it seems he owns 3 wineries and his wife's charity that all happen to bank at SVB.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:56:58 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:.
We all do. Just like 2006, what's the alternative?
The alternative is nationalizing the banks, limiting them down to 4 or 6 banks that are "too big to fail",
and forcing us into a digital currency that will be controlled by the Federal Reserve, called a CBDC, Central Bank Digital Currency. Your "money" will be programmable. It can be turned on, or off. It will also have an expiration date, so you cannotsave money. Use it, or lose it. And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
~ On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:39:44 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 8:35:12 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ Because Trump and team lowered the banking rules so their pals could gamble.And now it looks like the Fed now had to armtwist a group of banks to bail out First Republic.
Is the 'team' you're referring to the 36%+ of Democratic Senators who voted FOR the legislation that Trump signed?
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And now that Biden is trying to reverse that, Republicans are trying to block it.
What the heck? Bradley passed?
Google:
"attorney william bradley obituary vancouver canada"
Over 33 million hits
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
"Paul Popinjay" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
Google:
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Over 33 million hits
RIP
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What the heck? Bradley passed?
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
What the heck? Bradley passed?
^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
What the heck? Bradley passed?
He talked about getting a motorhome. Perhaps he's on the road. We used to be gone
for months at a time..
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:50:05 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
Ah! Glad to see you're alive and well. Time of the year for 'overlanding?" Spring has sprong?^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 7:58:14 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:then work our way up to Colorado. I want to see the border situation for myself and welcome some of the brave migrants to the First World.
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:50:05 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:Ah! Glad to see you're alive and well. Time of the year for 'overlanding?" Spring has sprong?
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.
I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
What the heck? Bradley passed?
We were supposed to drive to Cabo but my wife got spooked by the recent kidnappings and murders. She doesn't think I can protect her from the cartels. Silly woman. But yes, camping season is fast approaching. I think we're going to go to Arizona and
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 7:58:14 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:50:05 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
.Ah! Glad to see you're alive and well. Time of the year for 'overlanding?" Spring has sprong?^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
We were supposed to drive to Cabo but my wife got spooked by the recent kidnappings and murders.
She doesn't think I can protect her from the cartels. Silly woman.
But yes, camping season is fast approaching. I think we're going to go to Arizona and then work our way up
to Colorado.
I want to see the border situation for myself and welcome some of the brave migrants to the First World.
Your "money" will be programmable.
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:
Your "money" will be programmable.
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:
Your "money" will be programmable.So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:
Your "money" will be programmable.So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Your "money" will be programmable.So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
The author Robert A. Heinlein said that he knew there was money in silver mining, once he put his life savings into a mine and lost it all.
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:
Your "money" will be programmable.So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
On 3/18/2023 10:08 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Your "money" will be programmable.backed only by gubmit "full faith".
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government. >>> So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
The author Robert A. Heinlein said that he knew there was money in silver mining, once he put his life savings into a mine and lost it all.I enjoy your choices of examples, Tim. Silver is, as Paul aptly points
out, "used" and not all recycled. But oil and gas get "used" (and
"mined") too. Gold has been "used" as a measure of "worth(?)" for a
long time.
But it all comes down to whether the "money" (pick your favorite
substitute WORD) is "accepted" for trade. It helps a lot if it is
"portable" and can be "exchanged" for "stuff" being "bought and sold".
I was around when the "new" Peso stuff happened long ago in Mexico.
[Also, I once used a lot of cash and often had many $1000 bills. That
has changed. Maybe should have kept a few if they are worth more than
$1000 now.]
I have a $20 Confederate bill framed next to autograph of Jefferson
Davis ... (actually, I have lots of ALSs).
My brother was in the USAF stationed in Japan in the 50s ... the
military had their own "blue" bills for use on base and the "money" was
also "good" for buying stuff in town. And the town folks started using
it too.
However, too much got loose in town so they just changed to "red" money.
All the USAF folks just went and traded their blue stuff for red
stuff. Unfortunately, only the USAF guys were able to trade ... bad
news for the now useless blue bills being used in town.
I am sure there are many other examples of such "money" being useful and then becoming not so useful.
[I do like Robert Heinlein's work ... did he recover from his bad investment? Have any other bad results?]
However, we could not run a large modern society on gold.
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4, da pickle wrote:took the view that cash/gold was king. Contrast that with Britain and the Netherlands, who went the route of trade/theft.
On 3/18/2023 10:08 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote: >>>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:I enjoy your choices of examples, Tim. Silver is, as Paul aptly points
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Your "money" will be programmable.backed only by gubmit "full faith".
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money.
Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government. >>>>> So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
The author Robert A. Heinlein said that he knew there was money in silver mining, once he put his life savings into a mine and lost it all.
out, "used" and not all recycled. But oil and gas get "used" (and
"mined") too. Gold has been "used" as a measure of "worth(?)" for a
long time.
But it all comes down to whether the "money" (pick your favorite
substitute WORD) is "accepted" for trade. It helps a lot if it is
"portable" and can be "exchanged" for "stuff" being "bought and sold".
I was around when the "new" Peso stuff happened long ago in Mexico.
[Also, I once used a lot of cash and often had many $1000 bills. That
has changed. Maybe should have kept a few if they are worth more than
$1000 now.]
I have a $20 Confederate bill framed next to autograph of Jefferson
Davis ... (actually, I have lots of ALSs).
My brother was in the USAF stationed in Japan in the 50s ... the
military had their own "blue" bills for use on base and the "money" was
also "good" for buying stuff in town. And the town folks started using
it too.
However, too much got loose in town so they just changed to "red" money.
All the USAF folks just went and traded their blue stuff for red
stuff. Unfortunately, only the USAF guys were able to trade ... bad
news for the now useless blue bills being used in town.
I am sure there are many other examples of such "money" being useful and
then becoming not so useful.
[I do like Robert Heinlein's work ... did he recover from his bad
investment? Have any other bad results?]
Heinlein recovered by writing. The point about money eludes most people. Gold is tangible, so some think it is more "real". However, we could not run a large modern society on gold. As a point of interest, the Spanish nobility in the 16th-18th century
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large
distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious
problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that
piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in
the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the
actual "gold".
1 2 3 Infinity
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:30:52 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:.
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large
distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious
problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that
piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in
the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the
actual "gold".
1 2 3 Infinity
Paper is fine if it's backed by gold. Today's paper is backed by nothing.
https://www.coinbase.com/price/pax-gold
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
Paper is fine if it's backed by gold. Today's paper is backed by nothing.Yet it works just fine... on trust.
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
Gold is God's money.
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold.
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 7:58:14 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:50:05 PM UTC-7, BillB wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:43:48 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:38:44 PM UTC-7, Mossingen wrote:
then work our way up to Colorado.We were supposed to drive to Cabo but my wife got spooked by the recent kidnappings and murders. She doesn't think I can protect her from the cartels. Silly woman. But yes, camping season is fast approaching. I think we're going to go to Arizona andAh! Glad to see you're alive and well. Time of the year for 'overlanding?" Spring has sprong?^^ What he said. I'm modifying our Jeep for overlanding. It's a lot of work. Plus pickle and riskytard are just too annoying to deal with right now. They are like no-see-ums except without quite the intelligence.What the heck? Bradley passed?I doubt it. He's probably just going through a phase.
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that?
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
You have something I want ... I have something that you will accept to
give up that which you have.
Does not matter what the something is as long as you will accept it for
the something that you have.
Confidence is confidence ...
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:Pesos.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:30:52 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the actual "gold".
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Paper is fine if it's backed by gold. Today's paper is backed by nothing.Yet it works just fine... on trust.
The military in the pacific (all over, actually) were worried about American money being black-marketed. (Because weI used to blackmarket). So they invented the Script.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_payment_certificate
I was in the Pacific (Philippines) 12-years after the end of WWII. We used script. (And if a relative sent you a $20, you could black-market it for a good rate for peso). Most of the bars and hookers took script. Or you could convert your script to
About every two years, you'd wake up in the morning and all the bases in the Pacific would be shut down. "Script change." (The best kept military secret in the world). You'd take all your script to the office and swap it for the new script. (Differentcolors, pictures, etc.). This was to cut the feet out of the locals that were black-marketing in script. Local civilians lined the gates holding huge rolls of cash. That night it was work nothing.
All the gold in Fort Knox could disappear right now (and could be gone for all we know) and everything would still be tickety boo.
People like you fall for the marketing bullshit and that how the bit coin cons you out of your money..
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On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 1:42:39 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:Pesos.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:30:52 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the actual "gold".
.1 2 3 Infinity
Paper is fine if it's backed by gold. Today's paper is backed by nothing.Yet it works just fine... on trust.
The military in the pacific (all over, actually) were worried about American money being black-marketed. (Because weI used to blackmarket). So they invented the Script.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_payment_certificate
I was in the Pacific (Philippines) 12-years after the end of WWII. We used script. (And if a relative sent you a $20, you could black-market it for a good rate for peso). Most of the bars and hookers took script. Or you could convert your script to
Different colors, pictures, etc.). This was to cut the feet out of the locals that were black-marketing in script. Local civilians lined the gates holding huge rolls of cash. That night it was work nothing.About every two years, you'd wake up in the morning and all the bases in the Pacific would be shut down. "Script change." (The best kept military secret in the world). You'd take all your script to the office and swap it for the new script. (
All the gold in Fort Knox could disappear right now (and could be gone for all we know) and everything would still be tickety boo.
People like you fall for the marketing bullshit and that how the bit coin cons you out of your money..
I believe that is "scrip"https://www.coinbase.com/price/pax-gold
On 3/19/2023 7:24 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:century took the view that cash/gold was king. Contrast that with Britain and the Netherlands, who went the route of trade/theft.
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4, da pickle wrote:
On 3/18/2023 10:08 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote: >>>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:I enjoy your choices of examples, Tim. Silver is, as Paul aptly points
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Your "money" will be programmable.So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money. >>>>>> Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government.
backed only by gubmit "full faith".
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that? >>>>>
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
The author Robert A. Heinlein said that he knew there was money in silver mining, once he put his life savings into a mine and lost it all.
out, "used" and not all recycled. But oil and gas get "used" (and
"mined") too. Gold has been "used" as a measure of "worth(?)" for a
long time.
But it all comes down to whether the "money" (pick your favorite
substitute WORD) is "accepted" for trade. It helps a lot if it is
"portable" and can be "exchanged" for "stuff" being "bought and sold".
I was around when the "new" Peso stuff happened long ago in Mexico.
[Also, I once used a lot of cash and often had many $1000 bills. That
has changed. Maybe should have kept a few if they are worth more than
$1000 now.]
I have a $20 Confederate bill framed next to autograph of Jefferson
Davis ... (actually, I have lots of ALSs).
My brother was in the USAF stationed in Japan in the 50s ... the
military had their own "blue" bills for use on base and the "money" was >> also "good" for buying stuff in town. And the town folks started using
it too.
However, too much got loose in town so they just changed to "red" money. >> All the USAF folks just went and traded their blue stuff for red
stuff. Unfortunately, only the USAF guys were able to trade ... bad
news for the now useless blue bills being used in town.
I am sure there are many other examples of such "money" being useful and >> then becoming not so useful.
[I do like Robert Heinlein's work ... did he recover from his bad
investment? Have any other bad results?]
Heinlein recovered by writing. The point about money eludes most people. Gold is tangible, so some think it is more "real". However, we could not run a large modern society on gold. As a point of interest, the Spanish nobility in the 16th-18th
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large
distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious
problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that
piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in
the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the
actual "gold".
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On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:30:52 AM UTC-4, da pickle wrote:century took the view that cash/gold was king. Contrast that with Britain and the Netherlands, who went the route of trade/theft.
On 3/19/2023 7:24 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4, da pickle wrote:
On 3/18/2023 10:08 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 10:17:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:33:54 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:I enjoy your choices of examples, Tim. Silver is, as Paul aptly points >>>> out, "used" and not all recycled. But oil and gas get "used" (and
On March 17, Paul Popinjay wrote:Gold is God's money. But if they discover a way to turn concrete into gold, gold will be worth what concrete is worth.
Your "money" will be programmable.backed only by gubmit "full faith".
It will also have an expiration date, so you cannot save money. >>>>>>>> Use it, or lose it.
And it will be backed by nothing but the full faith of the government. >>>>>>> So this "new money" will be bastardized, as it's
Now let's talk real money, i.e. gold, presumably. What backs that? >>>>>>>
What does 'back' mean, anyway? How does one tell the
difference between backed money, vs. unbacked?
--
Rich
In the last two years, central banks all over the world have been stuffing their vaults with gold. STUFFING!
While I am at it, there is a difference worth noting between gold and silver. Gold gets recycled. Silver does not. The biggest user of silver now is solar, with electric cars coming up fast behind. Silver does not get recycled. It gets used.
I am not a financial advisor, and I do not know anything about you personally. But if *I* were still young, I would put as much silver as I could into a self-directed ROTH IRA. If I had any left over to speculate with, silver MINING.
The author Robert A. Heinlein said that he knew there was money in silver mining, once he put his life savings into a mine and lost it all.
"mined") too. Gold has been "used" as a measure of "worth(?)" for a
long time.
But it all comes down to whether the "money" (pick your favorite
substitute WORD) is "accepted" for trade. It helps a lot if it is
"portable" and can be "exchanged" for "stuff" being "bought and sold". >>>>
I was around when the "new" Peso stuff happened long ago in Mexico.
[Also, I once used a lot of cash and often had many $1000 bills. That
has changed. Maybe should have kept a few if they are worth more than
$1000 now.]
I have a $20 Confederate bill framed next to autograph of Jefferson
Davis ... (actually, I have lots of ALSs).
My brother was in the USAF stationed in Japan in the 50s ... the
military had their own "blue" bills for use on base and the "money" was >>>> also "good" for buying stuff in town. And the town folks started using >>>> it too.
However, too much got loose in town so they just changed to "red" money. >>>> All the USAF folks just went and traded their blue stuff for red
stuff. Unfortunately, only the USAF guys were able to trade ... bad
news for the now useless blue bills being used in town.
I am sure there are many other examples of such "money" being useful and >>>> then becoming not so useful.
[I do like Robert Heinlein's work ... did he recover from his bad
investment? Have any other bad results?]
Heinlein recovered by writing. The point about money eludes most people. Gold is tangible, so some think it is more "real". However, we could not run a large modern society on gold. As a point of interest, the Spanish nobility in the 16th-18th
The problem is "trust" ... when gold or silver was carried large
distances back and forth to allow commerce ... there was a serious
problem with theft. BANKS started and people learned to "trust" that
piece of paper that represented "ownership" of the "gold" kept safe in
the safe in the bank. The "trust" is indeed more important than the
actual "gold".
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Everytime I see "The Good the Bad and the Ugly," I wonder about Clint getting his $100,000 in gold back East. Clint's character was intelligent, and he must have had an "out" plan to get that money to safety; which could only be found "back East." Whowith half a brain would leave any substantial amount of money in a bank out there in those days?
They should have made a follow-up movie about that.
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