• The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 15:17:55 2023
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office becomes
    vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and fails to
    account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an outstanding
    job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of the
    White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to be
    his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator. By
    contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson, a
    brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people considered
    for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might get
    cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow
    PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to see Ms.
    Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female civil
    rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit where
    credit is due.
    ____________________________

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Mar 3 14:02:02 2023
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office becomes
    vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and fails
    to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of the
    White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to
    be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator. By
    contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson,
    a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people considered
    for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might get
    cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow
    PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to see
    Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female civil
    rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________


    Is this your idea of a joke?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Mar 4 07:35:26 2023
    On 3/3/2023 4:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and fails
    to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of the
    White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to
    be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator. By
    contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson,
    a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them. >>
    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow
    PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to see
    Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________


    Is this your idea of a joke?

    You did smile, did you not?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Mar 4 08:06:18 2023
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to
    be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson,
    a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .
    Is this your idea of a joke?

    No. Is that your way of dodging documented fact?

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Mar 4 09:18:01 2023
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to
    be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson,
    a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?

    Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is a joke. Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris only got her job
    because she is a black female. And Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is going to be voted out
    and kicked to the curb because she is is incompetent.

    Irish Mike

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Mar 4 10:39:49 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:18:04 PM UTC-3, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris
    to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is a joke. Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris only got her job
    because she is a black female. And Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is going to be voted out
    and kicked to the curb because she is is incompetent.

    Irish Mike

    You have to admit that KH knows how to draw that stewardess grimace while Joe speaks to the press.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Mar 4 12:41:40 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:06:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris
    to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .
    Is this your idea of a joke?


    ~ No. Is that your way of dodging documented fact?


    A documented* fact is that Kamala Herris will be a drag on the ticket if Biden runs with her in 2024 and he dare no dump her for fear of losing the South Carolina/James Clyburn vote-bot machine that put him in the White House.

    *documented by Bucky Fullminister, RBFNS star cub reporter: https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/29/91/74/240_F_29917414_l3JSWhRGFnpOabxRy8eH9AKqI2JCpXMR.jpg

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sat Mar 4 13:31:27 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:18:04 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris
    to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .

    Is this your idea of a joke?
    .

    Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is a joke.

    Why don’t you keep running in embarrassment when I bitch-slap the shit out of you?
    Why do you keep popping up with Fake Fox False Facts that you can’t address? Why can’t you tell us how “Kamala Harris is a joke?”
    (Because Fox leaves you hanging by your own ignorance).
    .

    Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris only got her job because she is a black female.

    So why didn’t 200,000,000 other black women get the Vice Presidency?
    (Heh, I love bitch-slapping this stupid bitch)

    And Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is going to be voted out
    and kicked to the curb because she is is incompetent.

    I have three or four posts of your where I asked, “Show us how she is incompetent.”
    So here’s another one for you to Run & Hide from.

    (I love how this ignorant fuck HAS to run from every one of my posts. JUST LIKE THIS ONE).

    LOL!

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Mar 4 13:38:40 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:41:43 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:06:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .
    .

    Is this your idea of a joke?
    .

    ~ No. Is that your way of dodging documented fact?
    .

    A documented* fact is that Kamala Herris will be a drag on the ticket ...

    So show us that documentation. Otherwise:

    *** BZZZT! ***

    That wasn't the embarrassing question that you dodged.

    So .... Once again .... We'll have to take that as a, YES.
    .
    .

    if Biden runs with her in 2024 and he dare no dump her for fear of losing the South
    Carolina/James Clyburn vote-bot machine that put him in the White House.

    *documented by Bucky Fullminister, RBFNS star cub reporter: https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/29/91/74/240_F_29917414_l3JSWhRGFnpOabxRy8eH9AKqI2JCpXMR.jpg

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Grunty on Sat Mar 4 13:33:26 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Grunty wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:18:04 PM UTC-3, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is a joke. Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris only got her job
    because she is a black female. And Like Lori Lightfoot, Kamala Harris is going to be voted out
    and kicked to the curb because she is is incompetent.

    Irish Mike
    You have to admit that KH knows how to draw that stewardess grimace while Joe speaks to the press.

    No. Why don't you show us? (While dodging all those embarrassing questions Irish Mick runs from ).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Mar 4 23:56:57 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:41:43 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:06:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .
    .

    Is this your idea of a joke?
    .
    ~ No. Is that your way of dodging documented fact?
    .

    A documented* fact is that Kamala Herris will be a drag on the ticket ...


    ~ So show us that documentation. Otherwise:

    *** BZZZT! ***


    You're pissing Bucky off. That's never a good idea.


    That wasn't the embarrassing question that you dodged.

    So .... Once again .... We'll have to take that as a, YES.
    .
    .
    if Biden runs with her in 2024 and he dare no dump her for fear of losing the South
    Carolina/James Clyburn vote-bot machine that put him in the White House.

    *documented by Bucky Fullminister, RBFNS star cub reporter: https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/29/91/74/240_F_29917414_l3JSWhRGFnpOabxRy8eH9AKqI2JCpXMR.jpg

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Mar 5 11:35:47 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 11:57:00 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:41:43 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:06:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:02:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the
    office becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral
    part of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her
    predecessors experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’
    s Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long
    enough to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    .
    .

    Is this your idea of a joke?
    .
    ~ No. Is that your way of dodging documented fact?
    .

    A documented* fact is that Kamala Herris will be a drag on the ticket ...

    ~ So show us that documentation. Otherwise:

    *** BZZZT! ***


    You're pissing Bucky off. That's never a good idea.
    .

    *** BZZZT! ***

    *** Knew you couldn't show ***
    .

    //NEXT//






    That wasn't the embarrassing question that you dodged.

    So .... Once again .... We'll have to take that as a, YES.
    .
    .
    if Biden runs with her in 2024 and he dare no dump her for fear of losing the South
    Carolina/James Clyburn vote-bot machine that put him in the White House.

    *documented by Bucky Fullminister, RBFNS star cub reporter: https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/29/91/74/240_F_29917414_l3JSWhRGFnpOabxRy8eH9AKqI2JCpXMR.jpg

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Mar 6 08:54:46 2023
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be underestimated,
    over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris to
    be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown Jackson,
    a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?

    Made me laugh out loud

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Mar 6 09:10:37 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris
    to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud

    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term. I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's
    the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Mar 6 12:18:38 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud

    ~ I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term.

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Absolutely brilliant. Looking and sounding presidential is just as good as being presidential. What a mushbrain.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Mar 6 12:49:36 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part of
    the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms. Harris
    to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S. senator.
    By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you might
    get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough to
    see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some credit
    where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud


    At Risky?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Mar 6 12:51:49 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:49:39 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?

    Made me laugh out loud

    ~ At Risky?


    Yes, Jerry. Everyone is laughing at someone else.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Mar 6 12:52:39 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    .

    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again
    (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his
    second term.

    Well... Mayve. I see it as him resigning after a year or two; leaving our first woman President.
    And she can be reelected twice....

    I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she
    needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Correct coaching would be NOT to... yet.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Mar 6 12:56:50 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:18:42 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    ~ I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term.

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.
    .


    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED
    in the Democratic primaries?

    I don't think it was a stupid remark. It was possibly programed.


    Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    Now THERE is a stupid remark....
    (I won't ask you to "show." LOL!)
    .
    .
    .

    Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Absolutely brilliant. Looking and sounding presidential is just as good as being presidential.
    What a mushbrain.

    Self reflection?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Mar 6 12:59:17 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:18:42 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    ~ I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term.

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.


    How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.

    ~ Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Absolutely brilliant. Looking and sounding presidential is just as good as being presidential. What a mushbrain.

    Except I said no such thing. Yet another third grade reading comprehension fail. It's getting comical.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Mar 6 13:13:32 2023
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.


    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No. She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.


    ~ Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Absolutely brilliant. Looking and sounding presidential is just as good as being presidential. What a mushbrain.
    Except I said no such thing. Yet another third grade reading comprehension fail. It's getting comical.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Mar 6 13:21:51 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.

    So?

    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.

    So? She's VP now.


    ~ Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Absolutely brilliant. Looking and sounding presidential is just as good as being presidential. What a mushbrain.
    Except I said no such thing. Yet another third grade reading comprehension fail. It's getting comical.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Mar 6 16:01:42 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:21:55 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    .
    So?
    .
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    .
    So? She's VP now.
    .

    And Risky can't list who or why, "DEMOCRATS dislike her."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Mar 6 20:40:05 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:52:43 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    .
    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again
    (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his
    second term.
    Well... Mayve. I see it as him resigning after a year or two; leaving our first woman President.
    And she can be reelected twice....
    I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she
    needs to look and sound a little more presidential.
    Correct coaching would be NOT to... yet.

    She cannot be reelected twice . The constitutional scholars have weighed in on that point.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 7 08:03:08 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 7 09:26:33 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.
    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.

    How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator for the most important state in the country are great qualifications. Why would you say she is a "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an
    awfully bigoted perspective.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Tue Mar 7 12:13:15 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.
    .

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster…

    I keep hearing that from uninformed Fox Viewers; but what asked to explain it, they’re always gone.
    Perhaps it’s because I post all his accomplishments…

    And this after Trump’s “attempt” at “Making American Great Again,” but failing.
    (Notice he’s saying it again? You going to give him another chance at failing?)

    “When President Biden and Vice President Harris took office, our country faced unprecedented crises - a raging pandemic, economic crisis, climate crisis, and racial injustice. The President and Vice President ran for office on the promise to move
    quickly to tackle these crises head-on and deliver results for working families. That’s what the Biden-Harris Administration has done.

    Record job growth. Record job openings. Generational dominance of US dollar worldwide. Child Poverty record low. Gas prices continue down for 78th day.


    See the full list:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

    Now would you be so kind as to list your (Fox’s) “Disasters?”

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Mar 7 12:04:01 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:40:08 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:52:43 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the
    office becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president
    and fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a
    ceremonial position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of
    influence, the reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the
    Munich Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through
    public-private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral
    part of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her
    predecessors experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’
    s Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long
    enough to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black
    female civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    .
    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again
    (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his
    second term.
    .

    Well... Mayve. I see it as him resigning after a year or two; leaving our first woman President.
    And she can be reelected twice....
    .

    I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she
    needs to look and sound a little more presidential.
    Correct coaching would be NOT to... yet.
    .

    She cannot be reelected twice . The constitutional scholars have weighed in on that point.

    Well, for now I'll yield; but it seems her first position as President would be 'appointed' (finishing Biden's term). Then she would run for President, for the first time. Then seek her first reelection. Doesn't that fit? I seem to remember they are
    saying Truman could run twice. (Ah, well, off to Google...)

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 7 12:17:28 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.
    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications. Why would you say she is a
    "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an awfully bigoted perspective.

    Apparently, he doesn't know that Rupert Murdoc, the owner of Fox News, admitted in the
    Dominion case deposition, that "Fox lies to its viewers," because "It's not about Red or Blue, but Green."
    And that he's instructed his Talking Heads not to reveal this, just yet.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 7 12:35:13 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.


    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters who promptly showed her the door in the primaries. Then ask yourself why she lost so badly against a Republican if she is the Democratic nominee for President in the future. Then, finally, ask yourself why you're
    souch a clueless 'lib' bot.


    Why would you say she is a "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an awfully bigoted perspective.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Mar 7 12:45:42 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .


    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…


    Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…

    .
    .
    .
    .



    who promptly showed her the door in the primaries. Then ask yourself why she lost so badly against a Republican if she is the Democratic nominee for President in the future. Then, finally, ask yourself why you're souch a clueless 'lib' bot.
    Why would you say she is a "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an awfully bigoted perspective.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Mar 7 12:55:37 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew. So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .

    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…



    ~ Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…


    Absolutely brilliant.

    This is exactly why I have zero sympathy for Democrats who whine about the Republicans whose election they, themselves, are significantly reponsible for.


    who promptly showed her the door in the primaries. Then ask yourself why she lost so badly against a Republican if she is the Democratic nominee for President in the future. Then, finally, ask yourself why you're souch a clueless 'lib' bot.
    Why would you say she is a "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an awfully bigoted perspective.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Mar 7 15:15:23 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.


    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters who promptly showed her the door in the primaries. Then ask yourself why she lost so badly against a Republican if she is the Democratic nominee for President in the future. Then, finally, ask yourself why you're
    souch a clueless 'lib' bot.

    As of February 28 she had an 80% approval rate among Democrats (and "not sure" for another 6%). Among the general electorate, her approval rating goes up sharply with level of education. She has an approval rating of 57% among those with postgraduate
    degrees (and that's with only 12% approval among Republicans). She also has a positive approval rating among those younger than 45. So, in short, old, stupid, uneducated, right-wing racists really dislike her. That explains your opinion.

    Why would you say she is a "diversity hire?" Because she's black? That seems like an awfully bigoted perspective.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Mar 7 17:04:58 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:55:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew. So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .

    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…


    ~ Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…
    .

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Pointing out that you couldn’t answer?
    Or pointing out where you got your misinformation from?


    This is exactly why …

    What is, “exactly why?” My pointing out your failures?


    … I have zero sympathy for Democrats who whine about the Republicans whose election they, themselves, are significantly responsible for.

    Then you should show “exactly why” and how they did that.

    (Does ANYBODY think Risky will answer ANYTHING?)



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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Mar 7 20:47:00 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:05:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:55:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .

    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…


    ~ Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…
    .

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Pointing out that you couldn’t answer?
    Or pointing out where you got your misinformation from?


    This is exactly why …

    What is, “exactly why?” My pointing out your failures?


    … I have zero sympathy for Democrats who whine about the Republicans whose
    election they, themselves, are significantly responsible for.

    Then you should show “exactly why” and how they did that.


    ~ (Does ANYBODY think Risky will answer ANYTHING?)



    Try asking an intelligent question.

    And, thanks for the extra periods. I was running short.

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Mar 7 22:48:10 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:10:41 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    The Excellence of Kamala Harris Is Hiding in Plain Sight (NYTimes)

    Vice President Kamala Harris occupies an office that can be the butt of jokes and criticism. The only duties of the vice president spelled out in the Constitution are to cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate and to become president if the office
    becomes vacant.

    I’ve never run for government office, but as a Black woman who has spent my life working in politics — including as manager of Vice President Al Gore’s unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2000 — I know what it’s like to be
    underestimated, over-scrutinized and unfairly criticized, just as Ms. Harris has been. Yet I’ve never been under such a glaring spotlight as hers.

    I have watched politicians up close for decades. And I have known Vice President Harris for years and urged Joe Biden to make her his running mate in 2020. I believe that the criticism of her is unrelated to her performance as vice president and
    fails to account for the role she plays in the White House.

    As a consequential and successful vice president himself for eight years under Barack Obama, President Biden has a keen understanding of the job he once held and he has tasked Vice President Harris with major responsibilities. She has done an
    outstanding job and her record in two years stands up to that of her predecessors. Has she solved every problem? No, but name me one vice president who has.

    We should think about our expectations for the vice presidency. It was only starting with the presidency of Jimmy Carter, and the role Vice President Walter Mondale played in foreign and domestic policy, that the job became more than a ceremonial
    position. Vice President Harris ranks third in breaking Senate ties (and first in the first two years in office), after John C. Calhoun and John Adams. While some claim that her duties breaking ties in the Senate have limited her scope of influence, the
    reality is that Ms. Harris regularly traveled the country to meet with Americans even as she cast the tiebreaking vote on key legislation to better the lives of the American people, including the Inflation Reduction Act.

    To advance President Biden’s objective to strengthen America’s foreign alliances, Ms. Harris has met (mostly in person) with more than 100 world leaders to repair damage to our international relationships caused by Donald Trump. At the Munich
    Security Conference in February she announced that the Biden administration has formally concluded that Russia is guilty of “crimes against humanity” in its war against Ukraine and warned China not to assist Russia in its invasion. Through public-
    private partnerships, she helped raise over $4.2 billion to address the root cause of migration from Central America.

    Ms. Harris has pushed for federal legislation to secure voting rights, worked to expand access to the child tax and earned-income tax credits, is co-leader of the White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment, was an integral part
    of the White House’s push to get Americans vaccinated against Covid, and is the chair of the National Space Council.

    Questions have been raised about the fitness of just about every vice president to move into the Oval Office should the president die or is unable to continue serving for another reason. Mr. Biden knew what he was doing when he selected Ms.
    Harris to be his vice president and had confidence that she would be up to the task of succeeding him if necessary. I hope that never happens, but if tragedy strikes, Mr. Biden’s judgment will be proven correct.

    Ms. Harris has more experience in elected office than several past presidents and vice presidents — a successful record beginning in 2004 as San Francisco district attorney and California attorney general and including four years as U.S.
    senator. By contrast, Presidents Trump, Dwight Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Zachary Taylor never held elected office before becoming president. Many other presidents had fewer years in elected office than Ms. Harris has had.

    Ms. Harris has been derided by some as an affirmative-action hire, perhaps because Mr. Biden pledged to select a female running mate when he campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination.

    On many occasions when people of color and women have climbed the career ladder we’ve heard criticism that they advanced only because of their race and/or gender. This was the case last year during the confirmation process for Ketanji Brown
    Jackson, a brilliant and extraordinarily qualified jurist who is the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court.

    For too many Americans, the idea that nonwhites and women actually got their jobs because of their qualifications, experience and talents is hard to believe. Maybe that’s because for most of American history, white men were the only people
    considered for high-level jobs in what amounted to affirmative action for them.

    And as the first woman, African American and Asian American to serve as vice president, Ms. Harris has arguably faced greater — and a different type — of scrutiny than previous vice presidents.

    The clothes and shoes she wears, the role of her spouse (Doug Emhoff, America’s first second gentleman), the way she sometimes laughs, her cooking skills and staff turnover in her office have all drawn greater attention than her predecessors
    experienced.

    Mr. Emhoff summarized the challenges confronting his wife in a 2021 interview. “She has faced challenges as a groundbreaker her whole career,” he said. “When you’re breaking barriers, there’s breaking involved and breaking means you
    might get cut sometimes, but that’s OK.”

    Vice President Harris is fulfilling the dream of the empowerment of Black women advanced by the Rev. Willie T. Barrow, a Black woman who was a field organizer for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and a co-chair of the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition and supporter of his presidential campaigns.

    Ms. Barrow, who was an inspiration to me when I was a young member of the staff on Mr. Jackson’s 1984 presidential campaign, died at age 90 in 2015. She was a mentor to Mr. Obama before he entered the White House but didn’t live long enough
    to see Ms. Harris become vice president.

    Ms. Barrow never received the accolades and fame she deserved for her work because the most visible leadership roles in the civil rights movement, government and elsewhere were reserved for men. But I have no doubt that she and other Black female
    civil rights pioneers paved the way for Ms. Harris to climb to the second-highest office in our government.

    Vice President Harris stands on the steely, unbowed shoulders of Black women like Willie Barrow and others who broke barriers before her. It shouldn’t be so hard for a leader like Ms. Harris, so visible in the office she holds, to get some
    credit where credit is due.
    ____________________________
    Is this your idea of a joke?
    Made me laugh out loud
    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term. I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's
    the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    Forget "coaching", Harris would need a brain transplant.

    Irish Mike

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Mar 8 08:37:05 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:47:03 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:05:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:55:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .

    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…


    ~ Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…
    .

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Pointing out that you couldn’t answer?
    Or pointing out where you got your misinformation from?
    .
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew you'd do the Risky Run ***

    LOL!
    .
    .

    This is exactly why …

    What is, “exactly why?” My pointing out your failures?

    .
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew you'd do the Risky Run ***

    .
    .


    … I have zero sympathy for Democrats who whine about the Republicans whose
    election they, themselves, are significantly responsible for.

    Then you should show “exactly why” and how they did that.

    ~ (Does ANYBODY think Risky will answer ANYTHING?)

    .
    .

    *** Knew he couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew he's do the Risky Run ***







    Try asking an intelligent question.
    .

    See? (He's so fucking easy)


    And, thanks for the extra periods. I was running short.

    You're short on answers... LOL

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Wed Mar 8 13:09:12 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:48:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:10:41 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 5:02:06 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:

    Is this your idea of a joke?

    Made me laugh out loud

    I see her path to the presidency. The Republicans nominate Trump, Biden handily kicks his ass again (because right-wingers never learn), and Biden drops dead into his oatmeal three months into his second term. I think I told you guys in 2019 that she'
    s the one to watch. Hopefully she is getting the coaching she needs to look and sound a little more presidential.

    ~ Forget "coaching", Harris would need a brain transplant.

    Irish Mike

    LOL.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Mar 8 13:29:51 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 8:37:08 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:47:03 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:05:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:55:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:35:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 1:13:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ I think I told you guys in 2019 that she's the one to watch.

    So you want to take credit for it now after downplaying that stupid remark after she utterly FLOPPED in the Democratic primaries? Even DEMOCRATS dislike her. LOL.

    ~ How did I downplay it and why was it stupid? She's one heartbeat from the presidency. If that isn't one to watch I don't know who is.


    Was she 'one heartbeat from the presidency' in 2020, mushbrain? No.
    So?
    She did so POORLY in the Democratic primaries that she withdrew.
    So? She's VP now.

    Like the others, this diversity hire of Joe, was a disaster, at least she doesn't steel luggage.
    .

    ~ How is she a disaster? VPs don't really do anything. I think being a former AG and a US senator
    for the most important state in the country are great qualifications.
    .

    Suggestion: ask the DEMOCRATIC voters…


    ~ Knew you couldn’t answer. Which is the reason you couldn’t answer mine, either.

    SUGGESTION:

    Stop getting your misinformation from FOX. They already admit they lie to you…
    .

    Absolutely brilliant.

    Pointing out that you couldn’t answer?
    Or pointing out where you got your misinformation from?
    .
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew you'd do the Risky Run ***

    LOL!
    .
    .
    This is exactly why …

    What is, “exactly why?” My pointing out your failures?
    .
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew you'd do the Risky Run ***

    .
    .
    … I have zero sympathy for Democrats who whine about the Republicans whose
    election they, themselves, are significantly responsible for.

    Then you should show “exactly why” and how they did that.

    ~ (Does ANYBODY think Risky will answer ANYTHING?)
    .
    .

    *** Knew he couldn't answer ***
    *** Knew he's do the Risky Run ***



    Try asking an intelligent question.
    .

    See? (He's so fucking easy)
    And, thanks for the extra periods. I was running short.
    You're short on answers... LOL
    .

    See what I mean?

    ** Risky on the run **

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Thu Mar 9 13:14:05 2023
    On March 7, Irish Mike wrote:
    Forget "coaching", Harris would need a brain transplant.

    Xi Jinping giggles at the thought of the Kommie on the throne.

    --
    Rich

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