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  • How is Ukraine supposed to "win"?

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 22:59:12 2023
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Sun Feb 26 23:47:24 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.

    Tell that to the Taliban. They got Trump to surrender.

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  • From joeturn@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Feb 27 01:29:46 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 2:47:27 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.
    Tell that to the Taliban. They got Trump to surrender.
    Puttin is trying to get China to support him

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 09:13:27 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:59:16 AM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.

    They dont want to beat Russia, they want forever wars. There is no money in peace.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Feb 27 10:52:50 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:13:31 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:

    They dont want to beat Russia, they want forever wars. There is no money in peace.


    You make a good point, Brian.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Feb 27 11:39:05 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:28:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia.
    Afghanistan did (with Congressmen Charley Willson's help)
    Give it up, or get annihilated.
    Russia gave up and left.
    They are prolonging the inevitable.
    But left.


    As you say, Russia gave up in Afghanistan. But what does that have to do with what I'm saying? If Russia had wanted to, they could have annihilated Afghanistan. And they could probably annihilate us too, if and when they want to. Nobody can fuck with
    Russia.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 11:28:15 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia.

    Afghanistan did (with Congressmen Charley Willson's help)

    Give it up, or get annihilated.

    Russia gave up and left.

    They are prolonging the inevitable.

    But left.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 12:42:06 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    ~ Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.


    How is UPutin supposed to "win"? Is Putin crazy? He can't beat NATO. Nobody can beat NATO. Give it up, or get deposed. The Russian inner circle is only prolonging the inevitable by not dumping that harebrained Putin.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 12:38:39 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:39:09 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:28:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia.
    Afghanistan did (with Congressmen Charley Willson's help)
    Give it up, or get annihilated.
    Russia gave up and left.
    They are prolonging the inevitable.
    But left.

    ~ As you say, Russia gave up in Afghanistan. But what does that have to do with what I'm saying? If Russia had wanted to, they could have annihilated Afghanistan. And they could probably annihilate us too, if and when they want to. Nobody can fuck with
    Russia.


    Why are you forgetting that we can annihilate both Russia and China? No combination of nobodies can fuck with the U.S.A.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Feb 27 12:50:17 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:13:31 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:59:16 AM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.

    ~ They dont want to beat Russia, they want forever wars. There is no money in peace.


    Yeah, let's just surrender 36 million Ukrainians to a totalitarian dictatorship. Stark cowardice may convince a rapacious animal to be less rapacious.

    Putin in 2016: 'Russia's borders have no limit'

    Medvedev less than a week ago commented that Russia should be considering 'liberating' Poland.

    We shouldn't make any effort whatsoever if defense contractors aren't willing to produce weapons for free.🤡

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 12:53:05 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

    ~ Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia. Give it up, or get annihilated. They are prolonging the inevitable.


    Without the massive amounts of aid the U.S. provided to the Soviet Union during WWII that country would now be speaking German.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 13:28:16 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:39:09 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:28:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:59:16 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Are they crazy? They can't beat Russia. Nobody can beat Russia.
    Afghanistan did (with Congressmen Charley Willson's help)
    Give it up, or get annihilated.
    Russia gave up and left.
    They are prolonging the inevitable.
    But left.
    .
    As you say, Russia gave up in Afghanistan.

    I said they were beaten.

    But what does that have to do with what I'm saying?

    You said nobody could beat Russia.

    If Russia had wanted to, they could have annihilated Afghanistan.

    How do you 'annihilate' a country?
    The Russians bet beat. And we (CIA with Congressman Willson's (R) help) shipped the arms to do it.

    And they could probably annihilate us too, if and when they want to. Nobody can fuck with Russia.

    Yet we did, and won..

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Feb 27 13:54:31 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:53:09 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Without the massive amounts of aid the U.S. provided to the Soviet Union during WWII that country would now be speaking German.


    That was then. This is now. I don't think anyone can beat Russia now. Which really means, I don't think we could. Don't be fooled into thinking Russia and China are different entities. Mao was Stalin's agent. The so-called Sino-Soviet Split is a
    ruse, just as the so-called "breakup" of the Soviet Union was a ruse, designed and originated inside Russia itself. Russia and China are one entity. I could go further and say that China does what Russia says to do. The "Line" comes down from Moscow.
    Putin calls the shots, with the exceptions of shots called from certain wealthy capitalists in New York and London. Putin does not tell the Rothchilds what to do.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Feb 27 13:57:56 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:28:20 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    Yet we did, and won..

    Russia won WWII. Dumbass.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 16:06:34 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:54:34 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:53:09 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Without the massive amounts of aid the U.S. provided to the Soviet Union during WWII that country would now be speaking German.
    .
    That was then. This is now. I don't think anyone can beat Russia now.

    What? They can't even beat Ukraine! They're using their own prisoners form prison and STILL can't win.

    Let's take a portion of your above statement:

    I don't think...

    Heh.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Feb 27 16:35:33 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    What? They can't even beat Ukraine! They're using their own prisoners form prison and STILL can't win.


    Don't be a fool. Although I know you can't help it. When they are ready, they will massacre Ukraine.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Feb 27 22:04:32 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    What? They can't even beat Ukraine! They're using their own prisoners form prison and STILL can't win.


    ~ Don't be a fool. Although I know you can't help it. When they are ready, they will massacre Ukraine.


    Weren't they ready a year ago? Since then they've had to run to the other side of the river. Russian soldiers were fleeing for their lives in stark fright. Most of them don't want to be there.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Feb 27 22:30:13 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 1:04:36 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    What? They can't even beat Ukraine! They're using their own prisoners form prison and STILL can't win.

    ~ Don't be a fool. Although I know you can't help it. When they are ready, they will massacre Ukraine.


    Weren't they ready a year ago? Since then they've had to run to the other side of the river. Russian soldiers were fleeing for their lives in stark fright. Most of them don't want to be there.

    The front line troops being captured now were recently Russian sailors. A bunch of the tanks have spray-painted cardboard to simulate reactive armour. Reports are that new recruits are being asked to provide their own basic equipment, which is then
    stolen before they get to the front lines.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Feb 28 00:54:33 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:04:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Weren't they ready a year ago?


    Apparently not. Putin can pave Ukraine like a parking lot. I can only speculate what the inside politics are, but Russia can destroy them anytime. Why suddenly, three years later, are all the fake news news companies repeating the same story about the
    Wuhan Lab leak? They all knew the truth in 2020, so what are the real reasons they do what they do? You're not supposed to know, you're just a common man.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Feb 28 10:44:15 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:35:36 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 4:06:38 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    What? They can't even beat Ukraine! They're using their own prisoners form prison and STILL can't win.

    Don't be a fool. Although I know you can't help it. When they are ready, they will massacre Ukraine.

    They weren't ready when they invaded Ukraine a year ago?
    Who's the fool?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Feb 28 10:48:24 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 12:54:36 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:04:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Weren't they ready a year ago?
    .

    Apparently not. Putin can pave Ukraine like a parking lot.

    So why hasn't he, fool?


    I can only speculate what the inside politics are, but Russia can destroy them anytime.

    So 'speculate,' fool.

    Why suddenly, three years later, are all the fake news news companies repeating the same
    story about the Wuhan Lab leak?

    Because they have new information. Try keeping up, fool.

    They all knew the truth in 2020,

    What was it, fool?

    so what are the real reasons they do what they do? You're not supposed to know, you're just a common man.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Feb 28 13:32:37 2023
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 12:54:36 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 10:04:36 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Weren't they ready a year ago?

    ~ Apparently not. Putin can pave Ukraine like a parking lot.


    The U.S.A. can pave Russia like a parking lot.


    ~ I can only speculate what the inside politics are, but Russia can destroy them anytime. Why suddenly, three years later, are all the fake news news companies repeating the same story about the Wuhan Lab leak? They all knew the truth in 2020, so what
    are the real reasons they do what they do? You're not supposed to know, you're just a common man.

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