'In a Feb. 8 letter to California Attorney General Rob Bonta that was obtained by BuzzFeed News, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said her office intends to dismiss the charges against former police officer Chris Samayoa "unless [thestate] decides to step in and take over the case." Jenkins, who was appointed to the job in July following the recall of former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin, said her office now believes that the case "was not in fact filed in good faith."
"It appears that the case was filed for political reasons and not in the interests of justice," Jenkins wrote. "I cannot pursue this case out of political convenience. Given the conflicts that have arisen, the evidentiary problems, and the completelack of good faith surrounding the filing of this matter, we cannot ethically proceed with this prosecution."
In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News Thursday, Jenkins confirmed her decision to not move forward with the case, saying that she has "an obligation to only pursue cases that are filed in good faith and that we believe we can prosecute."shot people.
The decision to charge Samayoa was historic. At the time, no San Francisco police officer had ever faced criminal charges for killing someone while on duty. During his time as district attorney, Boudin went on to file charges against other officers who
But after he was removed from office last year in a deeply contentious recall election, the case against Samayoa languished. Jenkins, who was ultimately elected to serve out Boudin's term in November, reassigned the prosecutor who had been handling theSamayoa case for two years and postponed the next hearing to December. Jenkins said her administration needed to reevaluate the case ..
The decision to dismiss the charges comes after Samayoa's attorneys filed a motion last month seeking an order for pretrial discovery after the district attorney's office provided them with recent interviews it conducted with investigators whopreviously worked on the case.
According to the filing, an investigator for the DA's office determined in 2018 that the case against Samayoa "was not prosecutable," and his conclusion was backed up by others in the office at the time. Samayoa's attorneys accused Boudin of "egregiousprosecutorial misconduct" for withholding this information, arguing that the former district attorney did so "to promote his political platform to punish peace officers."
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/san-francisco-dismiss-charges-cop-killing-keita-oneil.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:52:15 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:state] decides to step in and take over the case." Jenkins, who was appointed to the job in July following the recall of former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin, said her office now believes that the case "was not in fact filed in good faith."
'In a Feb. 8 letter to California Attorney General Rob Bonta that was obtained by BuzzFeed News, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said her office intends to dismiss the charges against former police officer Chris Samayoa "unless [the
lack of good faith surrounding the filing of this matter, we cannot ethically proceed with this prosecution.""It appears that the case was filed for political reasons and not in the interests of justice," Jenkins wrote. "I cannot pursue this case out of political convenience. Given the conflicts that have arisen, the evidentiary problems, and the complete
who shot people.In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News Thursday, Jenkins confirmed her decision to not move forward with the case, saying that she has "an obligation to only pursue cases that are filed in good faith and that we believe we can prosecute."
The decision to charge Samayoa was historic. At the time, no San Francisco police officer had ever faced criminal charges for killing someone while on duty. During his time as district attorney, Boudin went on to file charges against other officers
the Samayoa case for two years and postponed the next hearing to December. Jenkins said her administration needed to reevaluate the case ..But after he was removed from office last year in a deeply contentious recall election, the case against Samayoa languished. Jenkins, who was ultimately elected to serve out Boudin's term in November, reassigned the prosecutor who had been handling
previously worked on the case.The decision to dismiss the charges comes after Samayoa's attorneys filed a motion last month seeking an order for pretrial discovery after the district attorney's office provided them with recent interviews it conducted with investigators who
egregious prosecutorial misconduct" for withholding this information, arguing that the former district attorney did so "to promote his political platform to punish peace officers."According to the filing, an investigator for the DA's office determined in 2018 that the case against Samayoa "was not prosecutable," and his conclusion was backed up by others in the office at the time. Samayoa's attorneys accused Boudin of "
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/san-francisco-dismiss-charges-cop-killing-keita-oneil.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:state] decides to step in and take over the case." Jenkins, who was appointed to the job in July following the recall of former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin, said her office now believes that the case "was not in fact filed in good faith."
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:52:15 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
'In a Feb. 8 letter to California Attorney General Rob Bonta that was obtained by BuzzFeed News, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said her office intends to dismiss the charges against former police officer Chris Samayoa "unless [the
lack of good faith surrounding the filing of this matter, we cannot ethically proceed with this prosecution.""It appears that the case was filed for political reasons and not in the interests of justice," Jenkins wrote. "I cannot pursue this case out of political convenience. Given the conflicts that have arisen, the evidentiary problems, and the complete
who shot people.In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News Thursday, Jenkins confirmed her decision to not move forward with the case, saying that she has "an obligation to only pursue cases that are filed in good faith and that we believe we can prosecute."
The decision to charge Samayoa was historic. At the time, no San Francisco police officer had ever faced criminal charges for killing someone while on duty. During his time as district attorney, Boudin went on to file charges against other officers
the Samayoa case for two years and postponed the next hearing to December. Jenkins said her administration needed to reevaluate the case ..But after he was removed from office last year in a deeply contentious recall election, the case against Samayoa languished. Jenkins, who was ultimately elected to serve out Boudin's term in November, reassigned the prosecutor who had been handling
previously worked on the case.The decision to dismiss the charges comes after Samayoa's attorneys filed a motion last month seeking an order for pretrial discovery after the district attorney's office provided them with recent interviews it conducted with investigators who
egregious prosecutorial misconduct" for withholding this information, arguing that the former district attorney did so "to promote his political platform to punish peace officers."According to the filing, an investigator for the DA's office determined in 2018 that the case against Samayoa "was not prosecutable," and his conclusion was backed up by others in the office at the time. Samayoa's attorneys accused Boudin of "
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/san-francisco-dismiss-charges-cop-killing-keita-oneil.
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
It must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:state] decides to step in and take over the case." Jenkins, who was appointed to the job in July following the recall of former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin, said her office now believes that the case "was not in fact filed in good faith."
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:52:15 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
'In a Feb. 8 letter to California Attorney General Rob Bonta that was obtained by BuzzFeed News, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said her office intends to dismiss the charges against former police officer Chris Samayoa "unless [the
lack of good faith surrounding the filing of this matter, we cannot ethically proceed with this prosecution.""It appears that the case was filed for political reasons and not in the interests of justice," Jenkins wrote. "I cannot pursue this case out of political convenience. Given the conflicts that have arisen, the evidentiary problems, and the complete
who shot people.In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News Thursday, Jenkins confirmed her decision to not move forward with the case, saying that she has "an obligation to only pursue cases that are filed in good faith and that we believe we can prosecute."
The decision to charge Samayoa was historic. At the time, no San Francisco police officer had ever faced criminal charges for killing someone while on duty. During his time as district attorney, Boudin went on to file charges against other officers
the Samayoa case for two years and postponed the next hearing to December. Jenkins said her administration needed to reevaluate the case ..But after he was removed from office last year in a deeply contentious recall election, the case against Samayoa languished. Jenkins, who was ultimately elected to serve out Boudin's term in November, reassigned the prosecutor who had been handling
previously worked on the case.The decision to dismiss the charges comes after Samayoa's attorneys filed a motion last month seeking an order for pretrial discovery after the district attorney's office provided them with recent interviews it conducted with investigators who
egregious prosecutorial misconduct" for withholding this information, arguing that the former district attorney did so "to promote his political platform to punish peace officers."According to the filing, an investigator for the DA's office determined in 2018 that the case against Samayoa "was not prosecutable," and his conclusion was backed up by others in the office at the time. Samayoa's attorneys accused Boudin of "
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/san-francisco-dismiss-charges-cop-killing-keita-oneil.
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
It must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:03:19 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
It must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
*** KNEW YOU COULDN'T ANSWER ***
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
It must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish Mike
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
you will ever encounter - on this newsgroup or anywhere else. He never tells the truth,
and he just ignores the facts. Despite all his empty left wing bluster the only thing
he really cares about are the free government handouts he needs to maintain his pathetic low rent existence. He's a complete and total waste of time.
Irish Mike
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging them.
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
~ Gas Bag (Jerky in Vegas) is one of the most dishonest, odious, foul-mouthed liarsHe's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
you will ever encounter - on this newsgroup or anywhere else. He never tells the truth,
and he just ignores the facts. Despite all his empty left wing bluster the only thing
he really cares about are the free government handouts he needs to maintain
his pathetic low rent existence. He's a complete and total waste of time.
Irish MikeI wouldn't go so far as to say that.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging them.
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
So you think the U.S. spends too much money on law enforcement?Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Irish Mike
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:the state] decides to step in and take over the case." Jenkins, who was appointed to the job in July following the recall of former San Francisco district attorney Chesa Boudin, said her office now believes that the case "was not in fact filed in good
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:52:15 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
'In a Feb. 8 letter to California Attorney General Rob Bonta that was obtained by BuzzFeed News, San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins said her office intends to dismiss the charges against former police officer Chris Samayoa "unless [
complete lack of good faith surrounding the filing of this matter, we cannot ethically proceed with this prosecution.""It appears that the case was filed for political reasons and not in the interests of justice," Jenkins wrote. "I cannot pursue this case out of political convenience. Given the conflicts that have arisen, the evidentiary problems, and the
officers who shot people.In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News Thursday, Jenkins confirmed her decision to not move forward with the case, saying that she has "an obligation to only pursue cases that are filed in good faith and that we believe we can prosecute."
The decision to charge Samayoa was historic. At the time, no San Francisco police officer had ever faced criminal charges for killing someone while on duty. During his time as district attorney, Boudin went on to file charges against other
handling the Samayoa case for two years and postponed the next hearing to December. Jenkins said her administration needed to reevaluate the case ..But after he was removed from office last year in a deeply contentious recall election, the case against Samayoa languished. Jenkins, who was ultimately elected to serve out Boudin's term in November, reassigned the prosecutor who had been
previously worked on the case.The decision to dismiss the charges comes after Samayoa's attorneys filed a motion last month seeking an order for pretrial discovery after the district attorney's office provided them with recent interviews it conducted with investigators who
egregious prosecutorial misconduct" for withholding this information, arguing that the former district attorney did so "to promote his political platform to punish peace officers."According to the filing, an investigator for the DA's office determined in 2018 that the case against Samayoa "was not prosecutable," and his conclusion was backed up by others in the office at the time. Samayoa's attorneys accused Boudin of "
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/san-francisco-dismiss-charges-cop-killing-keita-oneil.
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
.It must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack and
defund the police.
Stupid Irish Mick.
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish Mike
You haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness.
So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes.
that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
encouraging them.
He's exhibited this problem
ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016
Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
.He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
Gas Bag (Jerky in Vegas) is one of the most dishonest, odious, foul-mouthed liars.
you will ever encounter - on this newsgroup or anywhere else. He never tells the truth,
and he just ignores the facts. Despite all his empty left wing bluster the only thing
he really cares about are the free government handouts he needs to maintain his pathetic low rent existence. He's a complete and total waste of time.
Irish Mike
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 2:37:37 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
~ Gas Bag (Jerky in Vegas) is one of the most dishonest, odious, foul-mouthed liarsHe's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.
you will ever encounter - on this newsgroup or anywhere else. He never tells the truth,
and he just ignores the facts. Despite all his empty left wing bluster the only thing
he really cares about are the free government handouts he needs to maintain
his pathetic low rent existence. He's a complete and total waste of time.
I wouldn't say that about many people but in Gas Bag's case it isIrish MikeI wouldn't go so far as to say that.
totally accurate and well deserved.
Irish Mike
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
Yea, and I posted the facts. Why didn't you include that in your lie?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
All I know is a lot of it is wasted on arresting people to only cut them loose.Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:05:03 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
.Yea, and I posted the facts. Why didn't you include that in your lie?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
LOL
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and encouraging
He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
militarization of municipal departments is out of control.So you think the U.S. spends too much money on law enforcement?Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Irish MikeI do, and on corrections. And I cannot figure out the massive difference in per capita staffing levels between departments in cities with similar crime rates (over 100% more in some cases). And the pensions are absolutely ridiculous. Also, the
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55:26 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
militarization of municipal departments is out of control.So you think the U.S. spends too much money on law enforcement?Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Irish MikeI do, and on corrections. And I cannot figure out the massive difference in per capita staffing levels between departments in cities with similar crime rates (over 100% more in some cases). And the pensions are absolutely ridiculous. Also, the
I would never defend the way the U.S. government's massive buraucracy wastes money. However,
two key differences with Canada. First, the population of Canada is only 38.25 million compared
to 331.9 million in the U.S., and that doesn't include the 20 million illegals we're saddled with.
Second, Under Biden the U.S. has an open Southern border and millions more totally unvetted illegals
are pouring in and being turned loose all over our country.
We also have massive record high amounts of
illegal drugs flooding across our open border which kill more than 100,000 Americans every year.
America has a terrible, record high violent crime problem
brought on by Biden's open border and
the left wing Democrat's defund the police, catch and release and no cash bail policies. So, for these
reasons it's difficult to fairly compare Canada's police and incarceration cost to America's.
The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:26 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:58:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world.Geez, look at the company you're keeping:
Top five countries with the highest rate of incarceration (per 100,000): United States — 629
Rwanda — 580
Turkmenistan — 576
El Salvador — 564
Cuba — 510
That's embarrassing. No wonder the US has slid so far down on the freedom indexes. It's turned into a police state.So, by your logic, if you don't lock up criminals and just put them right back on
the streets, you'll have a better country? No thanks.
Irish Mike
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:58:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world.Geez, look at the company you're keeping:
Top five countries with the highest rate of incarceration (per 100,000): United States — 629
Rwanda — 580
Turkmenistan — 576
El Salvador — 564
Cuba — 510
That's embarrassing. No wonder the US has slid so far down on the freedom indexes. It's turned into a police state.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55:26 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
militarization of municipal departments is out of control.So you think the U.S. spends too much money on law enforcement?Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Irish MikeI do, and on corrections. And I cannot figure out the massive difference in per capita staffing levels between departments in cities with similar crime rates (over 100% more in some cases). And the pensions are absolutely ridiculous. Also, the
I would never defend the way the U.S. government's massive buraucracy wastes money. However,.
two key differences with Canada. First, the population of Canada is only 38.25 million compared
to 331.9 million in the U.S., and that doesn't include the 20 million illegals we're saddled with.
Second, Under Biden the U.S. has an open Southern border.
..... by Biden's open border ....
the left wing Democrat's defund the police....
catch and release and no cash bail policies...
Moron Irish Mick
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 7:04:01 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:55:26 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
militarization of municipal departments is out of control.So you think the U.S. spends too much money on law enforcement?Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Irish MikeI do, and on corrections. And I cannot figure out the massive difference in per capita staffing levels between departments in cities with similar crime rates (over 100% more in some cases). And the pensions are absolutely ridiculous. Also, the
Court stepped in and told the lower courts that it was to be used as a last resort (and I think it is still relatively high compared to other developed countries). I think the crime has very little to do with the factors you mentioned because theI would never defend the way the U.S. government's massive buraucracy wastes money. However,Not sure what that has to do with anything. I didn't mention Canada.
two key differences with Canada. First, the population of Canada is only 38.25 million compared
to 331.9 million in the U.S., and that doesn't include the 20 million illegals we're saddled with.
Second, Under Biden the U.S. has an open Southern border and millions more totally unvetted illegalsEvery study I have seen says illegal immigrants commit crimes at about half the rate of American citizens, so that means the migrants are very likely lowering crime rates.
are pouring in and being turned loose all over our country.
We also have massive record high amounts ofWithout looking, I'd be willing to bet British Columbia has a higher overdose death rate than the US. The supply will always be there if there is a demand. The solution depends on reducing demand.
illegal drugs flooding across our open border which kill more than 100,000 Americans every year.
America has a terrible, record high violent crime problemThe current crime rates are nowhere near the record.
brought on by Biden's open border andI really wasn't comparing to Canada's expenditures, which are ridiculous too. Of course, Canada doesn't have the horrific gun problem the US has, so there are some savings there. And Canada also had a very high incarceration rate until the Supreme
the left wing Democrat's defund the police, catch and release and no cash bail policies. So, for these
reasons it's difficult to fairly compare Canada's police and incarceration cost to America's.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:20:54 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 11:53:26 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:58:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world.Geez, look at the company you're keeping:
Top five countries with the highest rate of incarceration (per 100,000): United States — 629
Rwanda — 580
Turkmenistan — 576
El Salvador — 564
Cuba — 510
That's embarrassing. No wonder the US has slid so far down on the freedom indexes. It's turned into a police state.So, by your logic, if you don't lock up criminals and just put them right back on
the streets, you'll have a better country? No thanks.
Irish Mike
By my logic, putting people in prison is reactive, and it doesn't help the victims or solve the problem...
Having the US flooded with 400 million guns (I'm reading stories lately of kids just finding them in the street) is a big problem too, but there is little to nothing you can do about that now. Right-wingers got their way and now you'll just have tolive with the ugly consequences.
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:39:54 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
All I know is a lot of it is wasted on arresting people to only cut them loose.Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Same request that you SHOW!
Same non-reply from you.
Same ***** KNEW YOU COULDN'T SHOW ****
.
.
.
//NEXT//
(Or did you actually save this from the last time you posted it?)
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:58:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:39:54 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:36:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:20:52 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:03:19 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Who are the 'liberals' that were "outraged?"
encouraging them.~ There are no "two sides". The left wing Democrats push to attack andIt must be hell for you to be on BOTH sides of a single issue.
defund the police. He always supports the Democrats. Period.
Irish MikeYou haven't been attentive enough to Jerry's split political consciousness. So-called 'liberals' pander to the Black Lives Matter fakes that Jerry hates but he continues to pretend that it isn't the 'liberals' that are pandering to and
~ The US already has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world. Thinking more incarceration is the answer is like thinking adding another 100 million guns will solve the US's gun disaster. You know that old saying about insanity?All I know is a lot of it is wasted on arresting people to only cut them loose.Does the magnitude of law enforcement funding in the US make any sense to you?He's exhibited this problem ever since the Democratic Party set aside a special seating section for BLM at the 2016 Democratic Convention and he refused to acknowledge that it happened.He even once said the GOP were the ones trying to defund cops
Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate.
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg.
More guns = fewer homicides
👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
👉 More guns = fewer homicides
U.S. gun purchases
-1998 982,840 guns purchased
and that remained about the same through 2005
-2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
and continued to increase nearly every year until
-2020 39,695,315 guns purchased
👉 U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related) -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
- then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016)
until
-2018 4.96 per 100,000
Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.
Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.
👉 That's from reliable data that wasn't in the form of an easy-to-read chart. But here's one that reveals the same truth:
https://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/aei-gun-chart-02.jpg In this case: more guns = less gun homicides specifically.
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ Yep, same bullshit, same idiot puking it up again.
Same request that you SHOW!
Same non-reply from you.
Same ***** KNEW YOU COULDN'T SHOW ****
.
.
.
//NEXT//
(Or did you actually save this from the last time you posted it?)LOL.
👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
👉 More guns = fewer homicides
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
👉 More guns = fewer homicides
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:41:48 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ So roughly the same homicide rate as 1960, even though the incarceration rate has quadrupled. That's your evidence that a higher incarceration rate leads to lower homicide rates?👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
~ Sure thing: https://tinyurl.com/yc4szuwc👉 More guns = fewer homicides
It's gratifting to realize that even someone with a middling I.Q. comparable to yours can easily recognize the very spurious nature of your argument, therefore relieving me of any need to elaborate on it. What a fool.
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:06:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:41:48 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ So roughly the same homicide rate as 1960, even though the incarceration rate has quadrupled. That's your evidence that a higher incarceration rate leads to lower homicide rates?👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
~ Sure thing: https://tinyurl.com/yc4szuwc👉 More guns = fewer homicides
It's gratifting to realize that even someone with a middling I.Q. comparable to yours can easily recognize the very spurious nature of your argument, therefore relieving me of any need to elaborate on it. What a fool.In other words you have nothing. Who would have guessed?
~ On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:24:30 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:06:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:41:48 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ So roughly the same homicide rate as 1960, even though the incarceration rate has quadrupled. That's your evidence that a higher incarceration rate leads to lower homicide rates?👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
~ Sure thing: https://tinyurl.com/yc4szuwc👉 More guns = fewer homicides
to those countries. That should have been your first clue that incarceration is not an effective long-term solution to high crime. If I've said it once I have said it 100 times: if you want to lower crime on a systemic level and a lasting basis, you needIt's gratifting to realize that even someone with a middling I.Q. comparable to yours can easily recognize the very spurious nature of your argument, therefore relieving me of any need to elaborate on it. What a fool.In other words you have nothing. Who would have guessed?
~ Pro tip: next time don't link to a graph that so clearly proves you wrong. The US has among the highest incarceration rates in the world (if not the highest), FAR higher than any other developed Western country, yet has terrible crime rates compared
^^ easily identifiable as 'Flood The Zone With Shit'
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:41:48 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ So roughly the same homicide rate as 1960, even though the incarceration rate has quadrupled. That's your evidence that a higher incarceration rate leads to lower homicide rates?👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
~ Sure thing: https://tinyurl.com/yc4szuwc👉 More guns = fewer homicides
It's gratifting to realize that even someone with a middling I.Q. comparable to yours can easily recognize the very spurious nature of your argument, therefore relieving me of any need to elaborate on it. What a fool.
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:06:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 9:41:48 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
~ So roughly the same homicide rate as 1960, even though the incarceration rate has quadrupled. That's your evidence that a higher incarceration rate leads to lower homicide rates?👉 Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
~ Sure thing: https://tinyurl.com/yc4szuwc👉 More guns = fewer homicides
It's gratifting to realize that even someone with a middling I.Q. comparable to yours can easily recognize the very spurious nature of your argument, therefore relieving me of any need to elaborate on it. What a fool.In other words you have nothing. Who would have guessed?
Pro tip: next time don't link to a graph that so clearly proves you wrong.
~ On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:32:08 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
~ And the fact I keep showing him: "There are more guns every day. Homicides continue to increase."
➡️ Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg
➡️ More guns = fewer homicides
U.S. gun purchases
-1998 982,840 guns purchased
and that remained about the same through 2005
-2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
and continued to increase nearly every year until
-2020 39,695,315 guns purchased
➡️ U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related) -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
- then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016)
until
-2018 4.96 per 100,000
Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.
Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.
➡️ That's from reliable data that wasn't in the form of an easy-to-read chart. But here's one that reveals the same truth:__________________
https://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/aei-gun-chart-02.jpg In this case: more guns = less gun homicides specifically.
Yea, "What a fool" you are for AGAIN posting "More guns = fewer homicides." Now both Bill and I have proved you wrong. And you still don't understand how...
And the fact we keep showing him: "There are more guns every day. Homicides continue to increase."
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