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    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 28 11:26:37 2023
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle in a “60 Minutes” interview earlier this month is now a member of the Biden USDA’s 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which will help
    determine dietary standards for Americans over the coming years.

    Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, a doctor specializing in obesity medicine at Mass General Health in Boston, claims diet and exercise have little impact on the disease that affects nearly half of all Americans, so what does she think people should do about it?

    “The number one cause of obesity is genetics,” Stanford told CBS’ Lesley Stahl.

    “That means that, if you were born to parents that have obesity, you have a 50 to 85% likelihood of having the disease yourself even with optimal diet, exercise, sleep management, stress management,” she added.
    Stanford elaborated during the interview to claim that an overwhelming majority of U.S. doctors hold a bias toward obese patients.

    “Are you saying that doctors don’t understand obesity? Doctors?” Stahl asked.

    “Doctors do not understand obesity,” Stanford confirmed.

    “The 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee will examine the relationship between diet and health across all life stages and will use a health equity lens throughout its evidence review to ensure factors such as socioeconomic status, race,
    ethnicity, and culture are described and considered to the greatest extent possible based on the information provided in the scientific literature and data.”

    The committee updates federal dietary guidelines every five years, acting as a cornerstone in public health perception.'
    https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/dr-fatima-cody-stanford-joins-biden-administration/


    'Combined data from 2019-2021 show notable racial and ethnic disparities:
    * Non-Hispanic Black adults had the highest prevalence of self-reported obesity (41.7%), followed by non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native adults (38.4%), Hispanic adults (36.1%), non-Hispanic White adults (31.0%), and non-Hispanic Asian adults (
    11.7%).'
    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

    Does this look like a 'I'm genetically fat therefore I deserve government support of my lifestyle. strategy?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Jan 28 15:37:26 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle in a “60 Minutes” interview earlier this month is now a member of the Biden USDA’s 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which will help
    determine dietary standards for Americans over the coming years.
    .

    So?
    .

    Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, a doctor specializing in obesity medicine at Mass General Health in Boston, claims diet and exercise have little impact on the disease that affects nearly half of all Americans, so what does she think people should do about it?

    .

    The disease, not the effect.
    .

    “The number one cause of obesity is genetics,” Stanford told CBS’ Lesley Stahl.

    “That means that, if you were born to parents that have obesity, you have a 50 to 85% likelihood of having the disease yourself even with optimal diet, exercise, sleep management, stress management,” she added.
    Stanford elaborated during the interview to claim that an overwhelming majority of U.S. doctors hold a bias toward obese patients.

    “Are you saying that doctors don’t understand obesity? Doctors?” Stahl asked.

    “Doctors do not understand obesity,” Stanford confirmed.

    “The 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee will examine the relationship between diet and health across all life stages and will use a health equity lens throughout its evidence review to ensure factors such as socioeconomic status, race,
    ethnicity, and culture are described and considered to the greatest extent possible based on the information provided in the scientific literature and data.”

    The committee updates federal dietary guidelines every five years, acting as a cornerstone in public health perception.'
    https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/dr-fatima-cody-stanford-joins-biden-administration/


    'Combined data from 2019-2021 show notable racial and ethnic disparities:
    * Non-Hispanic Black adults had the highest prevalence of self-reported obesity (41.7%), followed by non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native adults (38.4%), Hispanic adults (36.1%), non-Hispanic White adults (31.0%), and non-Hispanic Asian adults
    (11.7%).'
    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

    Does this look like a 'I'm genetically fat therefore I deserve government support of my lifestyle. strategy?

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Jan 28 21:52:39 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Jan 29 07:32:14 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:52:43 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    But the disease is the craving and retention. But don't bother looking up those words,
    won't do YOU any good.
    .
    .





    Irish Mike

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Mon Jan 30 09:34:08 2023
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike

    Simple math that works

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Jan 30 09:41:14 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works

    But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 30 10:34:44 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:41:17 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.

    It doesn't work fast that's for sure.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 30 13:24:00 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.

    Yea, the disease part.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Jan 30 13:24:05 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    .
    Simple math that works

    And has nothing to do with the disease.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Mon Jan 30 17:15:51 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:52:43 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.



    ~ Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike


    Correct.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 30 17:28:24 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:15:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:52:43 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    ~ Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike


    Correct.

    That is your definition of obesity?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 30 17:32:51 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:28 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:15:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:52:43 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    ~ Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike



    Correct.


    ~ That is your definition of obesity?


    I'm mystified. Are you saying that the word 'correct' is a definition of obesity? Or that 'Calories in. Calories out.' is considered by someone to be a definition of obesity? Because neither are.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 30 17:28:36 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works


    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of calorie
    reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 31 10:57:30 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:32:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:28 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:15:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:52:43 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    ~ Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike



    Correct.
    ~ That is your definition of obesity?


    I'm mystified.
    .

    Yea, I know. And was such a simple question...
    .
    .
    .


    Are you saying that the word 'correct' is a definition of obesity? Or that 'Calories in. Calories out.' is considered by someone to be a definition of obesity? Because neither are.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 31 11:14:35 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of calorie
    reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.

    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School."

    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms living in
    your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.

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  • From John_Brian_K@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Jan 31 11:19:15 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:37:31 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle in a “60 Minutes” interview earlier this month is now a member of the Biden USDA’s 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which will help
    determine dietary standards for Americans over the coming years.
    .

    So?
    .

    Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, a doctor specializing in obesity medicine at Mass General Health in Boston, claims diet and exercise have little impact on the disease that affects nearly half of all Americans, so what does she think people should do about
    it?
    .

    The disease, not the effect.
    .
    “The number one cause of obesity is genetics,” Stanford told CBS’ Lesley Stahl.

    “That means that, if you were born to parents that have obesity, you have a 50 to 85% likelihood of having the disease yourself even with optimal diet, exercise, sleep management, stress management,” she added.
    Stanford elaborated during the interview to claim that an overwhelming majority of U.S. doctors hold a bias toward obese patients.

    “Are you saying that doctors don’t understand obesity? Doctors?” Stahl asked.

    “Doctors do not understand obesity,” Stanford confirmed.

    “The 2025 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee will examine the relationship between diet and health across all life stages and will use a health equity lens throughout its evidence review to ensure factors such as socioeconomic status, race,
    ethnicity, and culture are described and considered to the greatest extent possible based on the information provided in the scientific literature and data.”

    The committee updates federal dietary guidelines every five years, acting as a cornerstone in public health perception.'
    https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/dr-fatima-cody-stanford-joins-biden-administration/


    'Combined data from 2019-2021 show notable racial and ethnic disparities: * Non-Hispanic Black adults had the highest prevalence of self-reported obesity (41.7%), followed by non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native adults (38.4%), Hispanic adults (36.1%), non-Hispanic White adults (31.0%), and non-Hispanic Asian
    adults (11.7%).'
    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

    Does this look like a 'I'm genetically fat therefore I deserve government support of my lifestyle. strategy?

    Spotted the fatty.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Jan 31 11:17:12 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of calorie
    reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.
    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School."

    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms living in
    your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.

    From what I have seen the hubbub around this question comes from the medical industry selling weight loss surgery to kids.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Jan 31 11:21:47 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of calorie
    reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.
    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School."

    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms living in
    your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.
    .

    Correct. Ergo; 'Obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise'
    Thus, the study of Obesity.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Jan 31 11:37:08 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:21:51 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of
    calorie reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.
    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School."

    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms living in
    your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.
    .

    Correct. Ergo; 'Obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise'
    Thus, the study of Obesity.

    The Harvard professor made a good point I forgot to mention previously. Another reason the simplistic calories in/calories out equation falls short is that macro distribution also has a large impact (along with the constantly adapting metabolism I
    mentioned). For example, fat takes a lot less energy to digest than protein. Therefore, you can ingest the exact same amount of calories and do the exact same amount of exercise but get very different weight loss results depending on how you allocate fat,
    carbohydrates and protein in your total caloric intake.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 13:28:43 2023
    ~ On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    <standard Blabbermouth FTZWS (flood-the-zone-with-shit) hoping it'll make him the center of attention>

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 31 13:29:17 2023
    ~ On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:37:13 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    <standard Blabbermouth FTZWS (flood-the-zone-with-shit) hoping it'll make him the center of attention>

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Jan 31 13:51:56 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:37:13 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:21:51 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of
    calorie reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.
    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty
    misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School."


    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms living
    in your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.
    .

    Correct. Ergo; 'Obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise'
    Thus, the study of Obesity.
    The Harvard professor made a good point I forgot to mention previously. Another reason the simplistic calories in/calories out equation falls short is that macro distribution also has a large impact (along with the constantly adapting metabolism I
    mentioned). For example, fat takes a lot less energy to digest than protein. Therefore, you can ingest the exact same amount of calories and do the exact same amount of exercise but get very different weight loss results depending on how you allocate fat,
    carbohydrates and protein in your total caloric intake.
    .

    I saw something on TV lately. Perhaps 60 minutes. They have a shot you can take that suppresses your appetite. They said movie start use it a lot. The problem is, it's about $1,500 a month. Of course the Pharmaceuticals make the money, while Medicare and
    insurance companies say they would pay that for the obese.



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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Jan 31 13:56:33 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:52:00 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:37:13 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:21:51 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:28:40 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:41:17 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:52:43 AM UTC-5, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:26:41 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    'Physician who claimed obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise joins Biden administration

    A physician who came under fire for comments claiming that obesity is more of genetics than lifestyle.

    Calories in. Calories out. Period.

    Irish Mike
    Simple math that works
    ~ But it actually isn't quite that simple, unless you take into account that your body adapts to a reduced calorie intake.


    What is quite simple is that you quite simply cannot stop yourself from blabbing something, anything, in a metally ill attempt to make yourself seem smarter than someone else. But you can't form a coherent thought.

    The human body adapts to everything. It's a more or less homeostatic mechanism. So what? If you want to reduce body fat you reduce caloric intake until the body fat starts disappearing. The human body cannot 'adapt away' the adequate level of
    calorie reduction required to shed body fat.

    Irish Mike was correct.
    I don't *seem* smarter than you. I just am, by a very wide margin.

    "Most people have been taught that losing weight is a matter of simple math. Cut calories — specifically 3,500 calories, and you'll lose a pound. But as it turns out, experts are learning that this decades-old strategy is actually pretty
    misguided.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical
    School."

    "The truth is that even careful calorie calculations don't always yield uniform results. How your body burns calories depends on a number of factors, including the type of food you eat, your body's metabolism, and even the type of organisms
    living in your gut. You can eat the exact same number of calories as someone else, yet have very different outcomes when it comes to your weight."

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories#:~:text=Cut%20calories%20%E2%80%94%20specifically%203%2C500%20calories,just%20wrong%2C%22%20says%20Dr.
    .

    Correct. Ergo; 'Obesity can’t be treated with diet and exercise'
    Thus, the study of Obesity.
    The Harvard professor made a good point I forgot to mention previously. Another reason the simplistic calories in/calories out equation falls short is that macro distribution also has a large impact (along with the constantly adapting metabolism I
    mentioned). For example, fat takes a lot less energy to digest than protein. Therefore, you can ingest the exact same amount of calories and do the exact same amount of exercise but get very different weight loss results depending on how you allocate fat,
    carbohydrates and protein in your total caloric intake.
    .

    I saw something on TV lately. Perhaps 60 minutes. They have a shot you can take that suppresses your appetite. They said movie start use it a lot. The problem is, it's about $1,500 a month. Of course the Pharmaceuticals make the money, while Medicare
    and insurance companies say they would pay that for the obese.

    You are likely talking about Ozempic, a diabetes medication that is being used off-label for weight loss. IIrc I read that the vast majority of people gain all the weight back as soon as they stop taking it.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 31 13:53:15 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    <standard Blabbermouth FTZWS (flood-the-zone-with-shit) hoping it'll make him the center of attention>

    In other words, you were bitchslapped by a Harvard Medical School professor and obesity expert (and me, as always). Sucks to be you, always shooting off your mouth without a clue what you are talking about. Then all you can do is respond with idiocy like
    the example above. So embarrassing.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Feb 2 13:07:24 2023
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:53:19 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    <standard Blabbermouth FTZWS (flood-the-zone-with-shit) hoping it'll make him the center of attention>


    ~ In other words, you were bitchslapped by a Harvard Medical School professor and obesity expert (and me, as always). Sucks to be you, always shooting off your mouth without a clue what you are talking about. Then all you can do is respond with idiocy
    like the example above. So embarrassing.


    Irish Mike was right and you're an FTZWS asshole.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 10:50:28 2023
    On January 31, John_Brian_K wrote:
    * Non-Hispanic Black adults had the highest prevalence of self-reported obesity (41.7%),

    Hispanic blacks are a separate category?
    Language is a factor in obesity?

    non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native adults (38.4%),

    Hispanic injuns and eskimos are a separate category?

    Hispanic adults (36.1%), non-Hispanic White adults (31.0%),

    Hispanic whites are a separate category?

    and non-Hispanic Asian adults (11.7%).'

    Let me guess... Hispanic Asians are a separate category -

    Does this look like a 'I'm genetically fat therefore I deserve government support of my lifestyle. strategy?

    Spotted the fatty.

    Yesterday I saw a man with three chins. That's rare.

    --
    Rich

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