Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Irish Mike
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 1:13:41 PM UTC-3, Irish Mike wrote:
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:Unforgiven (Clint, Gene, Morgan)
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Irish Mike
Dance with Wolves (Costner)
in any order.
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bksThe Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman
wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
"da pickle" wrote in message
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On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman
wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
And Shane
______________
The one I always watched with my dad as a kid was The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. That will always be the all-time best western to me.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
A few years ago when I was winner in Vegas, I went to the memorabilia store at the Forum Shops and saw a Good, Bad Ugly signed movie poster. They
wanted $1600 for it. I offered $1,000 and they took that if I paid for the $1000 shipping. Still have that hanging on my living room wall.
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 2:13:26 AM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
"da pickle" wrote in message
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On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman >> wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
And Shane
______________
The one I always watched with my dad as a kid was The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. That will always be the all-time best western to me.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
A few years ago when I was winner in Vegas, I went to the memorabilia store at the Forum Shops and saw a Good, Bad Ugly signed movie poster. They wanted $1600 for it. I offered $1,000 and they took that if I paid for the $1000 shipping. Still have that hanging on my living room wall.Zulu was my father's favourite film, partly because the protagonist was also a Royal Engineer.
"da pickle" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman
wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
And Shane
______________
The one I always watched with my dad as a kid was The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. That will always be the all-time best western to me.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
A few years ago when I was winner in Vegas, I went to the memorabilia store at the Forum Shops and saw a Good, Bad Ugly signed movie poster. They
wanted $1600 for it. I offered $1,000 and they took that if I paid for the $1000 shipping. Still have that hanging on my living room wall.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 11:13:26 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
Zulu scared the crap out of me. I'm still scared of Africans.
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:16:34 AM UTC-6, Paul Popinjay wrote:
On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 11:13:26 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated
by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and
apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the
mid-1800s.
Zulu scared the crap out of me. I'm still scared of Africans.From the movie, and a general knowledge of history, I'd be more scared of the Brits. I think I found the play between classes interesting. Practically alien as an American kid.
C
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
From the movie, and a general knowledge of history, I'd be more scared of the Brits.
I think I found the play between classes interesting.
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
--
Rich
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
--
Rich
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Rich
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Rich
C
On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Rich
CMy 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
...
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:13:26 AM UTC-6, Mossingen wrote:
"da pickle" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman >> wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
And Shane
______________
.The one I always watched with my dad as a kid was The Good, the Bad and the
Ugly. That will always be the all-time best western to me.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated
by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the
mid-1800s.
A few years ago when I was winner in Vegas, I went to the memorabilia store
at the Forum Shops and saw a Good, Bad Ugly signed movie poster. They wanted $1600 for it. I offered $1,000 and they took that if I paid for the $1000 shipping. Still have that hanging on my living room wall.
Signed by who? Kids, and by kids I mean growed ass people younger than me, will never know what television was once long ago. 3 over the air networks and, if you were lucky, a couple of local independent stations and a public station. You got what yougot and you got it when they decided to show it.
C
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, >>>> > or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war
through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class.
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
That would be, Evan Pickel, right?
On February 9, Travel wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, >>>> > or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war
through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class.
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
That would be, Evan Pickel, right?Tom Hanks was a schoolteacher before he marched across Europe
to save Private Ryan.
The governor of Cal. was a weightlifter until he found his true calling. Harry Winsor was royalty before he became an unreality teevee star.
The president of these fragmented states was an unreality teevee star
before moving into the White Fortress, and continued that role during.
Nobel Bob was Zimmerman before becoming Dylan.
Madonna was a cocktail waitress with a last name before she became Madonna. Ditto Cher.
Uncle Adolf was a house painter before ascending as the Fuhrer.
Derek Chauvin was an anonymous city cop before the iPhone.
Martha Stuart looked her age before her 35 face lift surgeries.
Doris Day was a Hollywood slut before becoming a famous virgin.
Is this a great country or what?
--
Rich
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.Korea?
What's the connection between Korea and class divisions in
the British army?
--
Rich
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional
Rich
and democratic.
some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.
C
...
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 3:07:54 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 9, Travel wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war
through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class.
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
That would be, Evan Pickel, right?Tom Hanks was a schoolteacher before he marched across Europe
to save Private Ryan.
The governor of Cal. was a weightlifter until he found his true calling. Harry Winsor was royalty before he became an unreality teevee star.
The president of these fragmented states was an unreality teevee star before moving into the White Fortress, and continued that role during. Nobel Bob was Zimmerman before becoming Dylan.
Madonna was a cocktail waitress with a last name before she became Madonna. Ditto Cher.
Uncle Adolf was a house painter before ascending as the Fuhrer.
Derek Chauvin was an anonymous city cop before the iPhone.
Martha Stuart looked her age before her 35 face lift surgeries.
Doris Day was a Hollywood slut before becoming a famous virgin.
Is this a great country or what?
--
Rich
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional
Rich
and democratic.
C
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain. __________
particularly when they would have one rank of soldiers standing and firing
at the enemy while the second rank was in front on their knees reloading, then the first rank would step forward, kneel and reload, while the second rank stood and fired. It was so mechanical and clearly a very effective military maneuver. When I saw this as a kid, I thought it was the most
clever way to defend.
"Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message news:ts31v4$ncs$[email protected]...
Tim Norfolk <[email protected]> wrote:
...
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
"Mr. Whipple" of the "Charmin bathroom tissue" commercials was
Dick Wilson, a decorated Royal Canadian Air Force pilot in WW2.
--bks
_______________
That's interesting. I remember when I was younger and watching the campaign when George H.W. Bush was running. He had those awkward gaffes when trying
to bowl and checkout at a grocery story and just came across as so wimpy and weak in the media. I started reading more as an older adult and he really
was a war hero during WWII. I should have given him more respect than I
did.
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Korea? te
What's the connection between Korea and class divisions in the British army?
The time period 49-52.
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old social classes, as the child of aI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional
Rich
and democratic.
C
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain. __________
I always remember the way the British organized their attack in Zulu, particularly when they would have one rank of soldiers standing and firing
at the enemy while the second rank was in front on their knees reloading, then the first rank would step forward, kneel and reload, while the second rank stood and fired. It was so mechanical and clearly a very effective military maneuver. When I saw this as a kid, I thought it was the most
clever way to defend.
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 2:28:44 AM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
"Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message news:ts31v4$ncs$[email protected]...
Tim Norfolk <[email protected]> wrote:
...
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
"Mr. Whipple" of the "Charmin bathroom tissue" commercials was
Dick Wilson, a decorated Royal Canadian Air Force pilot in WW2.
--bks
_______________
That's interesting. I remember when I was younger and watching the campaign when George H.W. Bush was running. He had those awkward gaffes when trying to bowl and checkout at a grocery story and just came across as so wimpy andA better man than any of his sons.
weak in the media. I started reading more as an older adult and he really was a war hero during WWII. I should have given him more respect than I did.
On February 9, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, >> >> or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Korea? te
What's the connection between Korea and class divisions in the British army?
The time period 49-52.
UK was involved in that war? For what?
Imagine if your son was sent to that godforsaken place,
and came back in a body bag. Wouldn't there be a mass
uprising against such insanity? Especially so soon after the
european war.
"Bradley K. Sherman" wrote in message news:ts31v4$ncs$[email protected]...
Tim Norfolk <[email protected]> wrote:
...
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain.
"Mr. Whipple" of the "Charmin bathroom tissue" commercials was
Dick Wilson, a decorated Royal Canadian Air Force pilot in WW2.
--bks
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That's interesting. I remember when I was younger and watching the campaign when George H.W. Bush was running. He had those awkward gaffes when trying.
to bowl and checkout at a grocery story and just came across as so wimpy and weak in the media. I started reading more as an older adult and he really
was a war hero during WWII. I should have given him more respect than I
did.
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 2:25:30 AM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old socialI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Rich
from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.
C
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain. __________
I always remember the way the British organized their attack in Zulu, particularly when they would have one rank of soldiers standing and firing at the enemy while the second rank was in front on their knees reloading, then the first rank would step forward, kneel and reload, while the second rank stood and fired. It was so mechanical and clearly a very effective military maneuver. When I saw this as a kid, I thought it was the most clever way to defend.Zulu's a great Great movie.
And, ya, the British/European military methods worked well against an unorganized, random-style of attack.
But it didn't work very well in the American Revolution in similar situations for example.
And it never seemed to me to be a very efficient manner of warfare-tactic if the leaders of these countries cared about the loss-of-life and the problem of "diminishing ranks" (the need for hired-troops/convicts was less than optimal).
In another great movie, "Barry Lyndon." there's an awesome battle scene (it was actually, technically considered a "skirmish"- so imagine the casualties in Waterloo), where the methods used in Zulu were used against an advancing, opposition army.
The advancing army's soldiers were like "sitting ducks" and just fell to the ground like human dominoes; this was considered an acceptable "risk/reward" military-method of that period of time (that went-on for hundreds of years).
Considering, especially (as discussed in this thread) that these soldiers were made-up of in a high percentage, from families of the "Landed Nobility," of their respective countries, it was an insane way of conducting battle-conflicts.
I mean, they all agreed to use their armies in this way; an obvious disregard for, not only "preservation of life," but the lives of members of their own ruling-classes.
"In society," there was great prestige given and attached to these officers for what they did, it's true, but at what a price!
"da pickle" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 1/26/2023 3:47 PM, risky biz wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:08:16 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-6, Bradley K. Sherman
wrote:
Irish Mike <[email protected]> wrote:The Wild Bunch --Peckinpah
I've always liked Westerns and I've seen most of
them from the good to the bad and the ugly -
pun intended. My question is, in your opinion,
what is The greatest Western of all time?
Not an easy choice to be sure but for me it's clear:
"Lonesome Dove". And your choice is?
Stagecoach (1939). Then _Bad Day at Black Rock_(1955).
--bks
Once Upon a Time in the West --Leone
Or if you want to go old school, The Searchers --Ford
Or if you want to go counter culture, Little Big Man
Or if you want Parody, Blazing Saddles
Or if you want modern, Lone Star or No Country for Old Men.
C
All you guys- WHAT? You've got to be joking.
Classics:
High Noon (1952)
3:10 To Yuma (1957 original)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
Also:
The Shooting (1966)
Dead Man (1995) (eminently rewatchable)
True Grit (2010) (how was this left out?)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
And Shane
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The one I always watched with my dad as a kid was The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. That will always be the all-time best western to me.
I also watched Zulu every time it came on when I was a kid, just fascinated by that movie. I watched it again recently and it's still pretty good, and apparently based on a true incident at Rorke's Drift in South Africa in the mid-1800s.
A few years ago when I was winner in Vegas, I went to the memorabilia store at the Forum Shops and saw a Good, Bad Ugly signed movie poster. They
wanted $1600 for it. I offered $1,000 and they took that if I paid for the $1000 shipping. Still have that hanging on my living room wall.
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 3:59:46 PM UTC-3, Travel wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 2:25:30 AM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old socialI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional
Rich
and democratic.
from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were
some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.
C
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain. __________
Thousands of extras (soldiers actually!).I always remember the way the British organized their attack in Zulu, particularly when they would have one rank of soldiers standing and firingZulu's a great Great movie.
at the enemy while the second rank was in front on their knees reloading,
then the first rank would step forward, kneel and reload, while the second
rank stood and fired. It was so mechanical and clearly a very effective military maneuver. When I saw this as a kid, I thought it was the most clever way to defend.
And, ya, the British/European military methods worked well against an unorganized, random-style of attack.
But it didn't work very well in the American Revolution in similar situations for example.
And it never seemed to me to be a very efficient manner of warfare-tactic if the leaders of these countries cared about the loss-of-life and the problem of "diminishing ranks" (the need for hired-troops/convicts was less than optimal).
In another great movie, "Barry Lyndon." there's an awesome battle scene (it was actually, technically considered a "skirmish"- so imagine the casualties in Waterloo), where the methods used in Zulu were used against an advancing, opposition army.
The advancing army's soldiers were like "sitting ducks" and just fell to the ground like human dominoes; this was considered an acceptable "risk/reward" military-method of that period of time (that went-on for hundreds of years).
Considering, especially (as discussed in this thread) that these soldiers were made-up of in a high percentage, from families of the "Landed Nobility," of their respective countries, it was an insane way of conducting battle-conflicts.
I mean, they all agreed to use their armies in this way; an obvious disregard for, not only "preservation of life," but the lives of members of their own ruling-classes.
"In society," there was great prestige given and attached to these officers for what they did, it's true, but at what a price!If you want to see a vivid recreation of how Waterloo developed on the ground, from both sides, you need to watch the movie from 1970. Rod Steiger played Napoleon, Christopher Plummer the Duke of Wellington, Orson Welles the king Louis of France.
Never seen such grandiose scenes, many aerial. Watch it and comment back.
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 3:59:46 PM UTC-3, Travel wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 2:25:30 AM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:01:31 PM UTC-5, C Mayhem wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:13:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:33:37 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
On February 7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I lived in Britain in the tail end of the collapse of the old socialI thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
classes, as the child of a
soldier who then became an officer.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis,
or something equivalent.
There was a mini series called Piece of Cake about an RAF fighter squadron--That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional
Rich
and democratic.
from before the war through the end of the Battle of Britain. There were
some very interesting scenes that revolved around class. Decent book also.
C
My 6th grade teacher was a Wing Commander in the Battle of Britain. __________
Thousands of extras (soldiers actually!).I always remember the way the British organized their attack in Zulu, particularly when they would have one rank of soldiers standing and firingZulu's a great Great movie.
at the enemy while the second rank was in front on their knees reloading,
then the first rank would step forward, kneel and reload, while the second
rank stood and fired. It was so mechanical and clearly a very effective military maneuver. When I saw this as a kid, I thought it was the most clever way to defend.
And, ya, the British/European military methods worked well against an unorganized, random-style of attack.
But it didn't work very well in the American Revolution in similar situations for example.
And it never seemed to me to be a very efficient manner of warfare-tactic if the leaders of these countries cared about the loss-of-life and the problem of "diminishing ranks" (the need for hired-troops/convicts was less than optimal).
In another great movie, "Barry Lyndon." there's an awesome battle scene (it was actually, technically considered a "skirmish"- so imagine the casualties in Waterloo), where the methods used in Zulu were used against an advancing, opposition army.
The advancing army's soldiers were like "sitting ducks" and just fell to the ground like human dominoes; this was considered an acceptable "risk/reward" military-method of that period of time (that went-on for hundreds of years).
Considering, especially (as discussed in this thread) that these soldiers were made-up of in a high percentage, from families of the "Landed Nobility," of their respective countries, it was an insane way of conducting battle-conflicts.
I mean, they all agreed to use their armies in this way; an obvious disregard for, not only "preservation of life," but the lives of members of their own ruling-classes.
"In society," there was great prestige given and attached to these officers for what they did, it's true, but at what a price!If you want to see a vivid recreation of how Waterloo developed on the ground, from both sides, you need to watch the movie from 1970. Rod Steiger played Napoleon, Christopher Plummer the Duke of Wellington, Orson Welles the king Louis of France.
Never seen such grandiose scenes, many aerial. Watch it and comment back.
On February 9, Tim Norfolk wrote:
I thought officers were a branch of the aristocrat class.
Didn't both princes serve in the Royal Navy? They attended Annapolis, >> >> or something equivalent.
That was the case until about Korea, then it became more professional and democratic.
Korea? te
What's the connection between Korea and class divisions in the British army?
The time period 49-52.
UK was involved in that war? For what?
Imagine if your son was sent to that godforsaken place,
and came back in a body bag. Wouldn't there be a mass
uprising against such insanity? Especially so soon after the
european war.
--
Rich
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